I would love to see a collab with ZP and dragonforce. Especially on tour, have both him and Marc perform classics together like fury of the storm, through the fire and flames, and more lol.
ZP Theart is harder to find than Carmen San Diego these days! But this sure does give me a slight hope for the future of a possible reunion tour one day ❤
be sweet if dragonforce ever did like killswitch engage did on signal fire and have both singers on a project i all parties could agree respectfully my 2 cents..
Damnit Herman I need more context than that. It has always killed me to know why my favorite singer of all time left my favorite band of all time! "Insurmountable musical differences" isn't enough lol I would love to hear the full story. I understand it may be some ugly memories for these guys, but as a fan I'd love to know. Vadim explained a bit more in his "Why I left Dragonforce" vlog and I'd to hear everyone else's version. We need a big production Dragonforce documentary Pronto! Lol !
I'd love for a tour where Marc and ZP each sang songs from their respective df albums and teamed up on one or two. Their voices are very different so I am not sure how they would mix together in a song but I'd love to hear DF songs with ZP live in person at least once. I missed out when I was young.
If anyone can make it happen, it's Rich Smith. He is/was the drummer for I Am I (ZP's band) and was the drummer for Marc's solo album. I reckon he's got a good enough rapport with the two singers to at least suggest the idea of some sort of collaboration
He didn’t say anything we didn’t already know. They will never get into the real details of it because it’s personal. What’s more of a shocker is that he said they would be open to collaborating with him again in some means. THAT is incredible.
I have an unscratchable itch to know exactly what happened that led to the split. Was it a long time coming? Was it the result of one argument that their egos prevented from being mended? The truth is we'll never know, and it's not our business to know. All I know is that I hope everyone is doing well these days. ZP has disappeared from the public eye, which tempts me to feel worried, but maybe that's what he wanted at this point in his life. I love him and all he gave to us fans. A reunion would mean the world to me; not necessarily a musical reunion, but just seeing them all back together again as friends. A man can dream.
He's basically telling us that ZP changed throughout the years. He parted ways with multiple bands and there's obviously a reason for it.. I assume he's really hard to work with in the long run.
The former members of ZP’s I Am I project said he was extremely difficult to work with. Plus Skid Row kicked him out and never even recorded an album with him he basically was just a touring vocalist then they cut him with seemingly no explanation
I'm gonna give my 2 cents on the Hudson v. Theart debate and if ZP would be open for collaboration or reunion with DF. For Hudson v. Theart, Marc was everything DF needed in a singer. Consistency and the ability to perform live. After ZP's voice began to fail from smoking, drinking, and a refusal to train his vocal cords, they had to downtune. Marc, while very rough in the beginning (one of the first tours he was in was one of the worst in dragonforce history, some hard to find accounts of the tour exist, but I can't find them, and all video has been removed by Herman.) Marc eventually got his legs and became a worthy frontman. But, Marcs voice doesn't particularly fit DragonForce's style of metal like a glove, very apparent with his solo album Starbound Stories, which really fits how he sings. And do I think ZP would agree to a reunion or collab with DF? Plausible, but VERY unlikely, the very reason he left was because he started to resent the music he and the band wrote, thinking it was all too samey, but maybe, he could have changed his perspective following his departure from Skid Row, who knows right?
This is a hilarious read. No, Marc had even worse consistency when performing live. He also drinks and smokes, this isn't the problem. But instead of down tuning he started using playback AFTER that tour. He was decent in 2012, I'll give you that. At least ZP never lip synced and used playback, downtuning is still way better than that. Marc's been lip syncing for 10 years now lol
I was curious on google the other day and the most common thing was him not feeling like Dragonforces vocals were respected. Which is fair really, at the time we just wanted fun guitar noises and someone screaming something about "FAR AWAY"
I have to say...after the new album, marc is kinda loosing his voice. Dont know if its the partying or the alcohol, but he doesnt have the fire anymore that made me fall in love with him with MO. ZP however sounded bad a** until the end (of course the first album was in every way the first) but he just made the albums that I listen on a yearly bases compared to marc era
ZP himself said ''musical differences'' - so i'm assuming he wanted to move onto maybe more progressive than just speed. (kinda like a Dream Thetre vibe) but Sam and Herman wanted to keep what was working. Which makes sense.
I saw a video Vadim posted on his Facebook some years ago, where he addressed it. The main issue was he felt like the music business as a whole was going under, and that he wasn't getting paid enough to keep touring since he's a recent father. On top of that (now there is some assumption here) the people who make money off of streams and music sales are the songwriters, and Sam is pretty much the sole writer of the band, which would leave Vadim little to nothing from the band income. The money stuff on top of him feeling conflict being a dad and a hardcore Christian now amongst a band of "non-believers" led him to leave the band, since he felt out of place along with the financial struggle.
@@nerfherder4444it’s also worth noting Vadim said he felt like his input on music was completely ignored by the rest of the band and that he felt like they really didn’t care about him coming back to work after sitting out the Reaching Into Infinity cycle
Basically, ZP had a different musical opinion of DragonForce, and thought that their music were probably too samey or not original anymore. And so, he quit to form his own band.
Marc is the best thing to happen to the band other than the success of TTFAF video and then Guitar Hero. Marc is a professional, he takes care of his voice. They haven't had to down tune the guitars for him and live he sounds like the album. I prefer the sound of his voice as well, but even leaving that out, Marc is great.
Marc is not any more professional and he doesn't really take care of his voice the way you think he does. But yes, they haven't had to down tune the guitars for him live, they instead started using playback for Marc which is much worse lol. ZP was better both live and in studio.
Big no. Marc, up to the point he joined DF, was some guy that sang at a few bar gigs, & was chosen simply because he was local. Which makes the whole 'worldwide audition' in 2009-2010 completely redundant. ZP was featured in Metal Hammer. He had the chops & the backing. Marc sounds like he's struggling in just about every note he hits. There's a video of Soldiers of the Wasteland live I watched & he couldn't hit any of the notes. At all. Marc's harsh vocals though are killer. His cleans hurt my ears though.
Marc has not been lip syncing. There's a video of the most recent tour where he misses his cue to go back after the Soldiers solos. No vocals play, and he comes in when he genuinely sings. You can even hear the backing vocals of Alicia and Billy live with no Marc. 100% no lip syncing. Can't speak for everything else with certainty, but Marc has grown so much over the years, the man has total control of his voice. If you're a true professional, you can nail it every time.
He could be died or something because no one get any updates about him. If anyone can get the info from his band member I think it would be great to post on social media. One of the best singer that I ever listened
@@Toshineko He was touring with Skid Row until Erik Grönwall took over, although he parted ways with them too a while back. Haven't seen or heard anything since.
Hahahaha no, Although your opinion is respected, the reality is that zp in terms of voice and essence was a unique thing and not. ZP was superior and a fan who has been with them since 2008 can tell you.
was real great with ZP in the band, and I really thought you never could replace him and keep the sound. But you did and Marc Hudson is just GREAT in his role. I sometimes listen to ZP's new band I_AM_I. Really good. Not Dragonforce good, but still real good.
Id love for DF to release an album with both Marc AND ZP on vocals. Would be incredible.
ZP in dragonforce was the best music every made
I still listen to their old songs regulary. They had a melodic style and symphony, very unique and unmatched.
Me too and I agree!@@Leodachef1
I too, the musics of Dragonforce with Marc is great, very great. But the musics with ZP in my opinion are another level
Nah. Their music with Marc is their best
my favorite zp era songs are fields of despair, disciples of babylon, and heart of a dragon
Holy shit, I never thought he'd actually address it, even cooler that he's open to a possible reunion.
@@Ben.B Where does this info come from? Is there an interview/article or something?
He says it in the last 30 seconds regarding the reunion
And i waiting ZP return again
Love this band and his voice
Me too I'd love at least a reunion with ZP, Fred, Adrian, Dave, and Vadim
@@YoursTrulyThe1Pony I mean if not Vadim, at least Shaz
I would love to see a collab with ZP and dragonforce. Especially on tour, have both him and Marc perform classics together like fury of the storm, through the fire and flames, and more lol.
That would be super cool to see for sure
ZP Theart is harder to find than Carmen San Diego these days! But this sure does give me a slight hope for the future of a possible reunion tour one day ❤
To have Marc and ZP on a song would be a dream… sounds possible to I reckon 2025
be sweet if dragonforce ever did like killswitch engage did on signal fire and have both singers on a project i all parties could agree respectfully my 2 cents..
Damnit Herman I need more context than that. It has always killed me to know why my favorite singer of all time left my favorite band of all time! "Insurmountable musical differences" isn't enough lol I would love to hear the full story. I understand it may be some ugly memories for these guys, but as a fan I'd love to know. Vadim explained a bit more in his "Why I left Dragonforce" vlog and I'd to hear everyone else's version. We need a big production Dragonforce documentary Pronto! Lol !
I'd love for a tour where Marc and ZP each sang songs from their respective df albums and teamed up on one or two. Their voices are very different so I am not sure how they would mix together in a song but I'd love to hear DF songs with ZP live in person at least once. I missed out when I was young.
real, that would be so awesome!!
You can rag on ZP all you want but he never lip-synced and used playback unlike Marc
If anyone can make it happen, it's Rich Smith. He is/was the drummer for I Am I (ZP's band) and was the drummer for Marc's solo album. I reckon he's got a good enough rapport with the two singers to at least suggest the idea of some sort of collaboration
He didn’t say anything we didn’t already know. They will never get into the real details of it because it’s personal.
What’s more of a shocker is that he said they would be open to collaborating with him again in some means. THAT is incredible.
I have an unscratchable itch to know exactly what happened that led to the split. Was it a long time coming? Was it the result of one argument that their egos prevented from being mended? The truth is we'll never know, and it's not our business to know. All I know is that I hope everyone is doing well these days. ZP has disappeared from the public eye, which tempts me to feel worried, but maybe that's what he wanted at this point in his life. I love him and all he gave to us fans. A reunion would mean the world to me; not necessarily a musical reunion, but just seeing them all back together again as friends. A man can dream.
Yeah... I was hoping that maybe ZP Theart would reunite with Herman, maybe do something cool with him one day. Who knows?
This was beautifully said. I also really want Vadim back as well.
He's basically telling us that ZP changed throughout the years. He parted ways with multiple bands and there's obviously a reason for it.. I assume he's really hard to work with in the long run.
The former members of ZP’s I Am I project said he was extremely difficult to work with. Plus Skid Row kicked him out and never even recorded an album with him he basically was just a touring vocalist then they cut him with seemingly no explanation
although ZP is getting old and condition not as good as early days, but his voice is still remarkable and beautiful
yeah I remember watching that stream and it kinda still sucks to hear that ZP left dragonforce long time ago. (also thats me the "new subscriber" lol)
Hay pocas cosas que me hicieron feliz de verdad en esta vida. Este clip es una de ellas.
I'm gonna give my 2 cents on the Hudson v. Theart debate and if ZP would be open for collaboration or reunion with DF.
For Hudson v. Theart, Marc was everything DF needed in a singer. Consistency and the ability to perform live. After ZP's voice began to fail from smoking, drinking, and a refusal to train his vocal cords, they had to downtune. Marc, while very rough in the beginning (one of the first tours he was in was one of the worst in dragonforce history, some hard to find accounts of the tour exist, but I can't find them, and all video has been removed by Herman.) Marc eventually got his legs and became a worthy frontman. But, Marcs voice doesn't particularly fit DragonForce's style of metal like a glove, very apparent with his solo album Starbound Stories, which really fits how he sings.
And do I think ZP would agree to a reunion or collab with DF? Plausible, but VERY unlikely, the very reason he left was because he started to resent the music he and the band wrote, thinking it was all too samey, but maybe, he could have changed his perspective following his departure from Skid Row, who knows right?
That's a very good point.
Nahh ive seen dragonforce live up front 3 times. Marc sucks.
This is a hilarious read. No, Marc had even worse consistency when performing live. He also drinks and smokes, this isn't the problem. But instead of down tuning he started using playback AFTER that tour. He was decent in 2012, I'll give you that. At least ZP never lip synced and used playback, downtuning is still way better than that.
Marc's been lip syncing for 10 years now lol
@@TerminatorZXY Nice to get a bit of insight from someone who has been a DF fan a lot longer than me.
Now that ZP is making music once again (at least he released an Iron Maiden cover) this is exciting af
Zp is back on social midia
He's not really, a scammer got access to some of his accounts. Don't click on any fishy links or donate money to the causes he's saying, it's a scam.
ZP is one of the best singer of the last times!
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Maybe do a duet with Sue Metal and ZP with original Dragonforce members playing? Fury of the Storm.
2 singers would be interesting
I was curious on google the other day and the most common thing was him not feeling like Dragonforces vocals were respected. Which is fair really, at the time we just wanted fun guitar noises and someone screaming something about "FAR AWAY"
Did he just... hint at ZP possibly returning in some fashion??? I really hope so.
I have to say...after the new album, marc is kinda loosing his voice. Dont know if its the partying or the alcohol, but he doesnt have the fire anymore that made me fall in love with him with MO. ZP however sounded bad a** until the end (of course the first album was in every way the first) but he just made the albums that I listen on a yearly bases compared to marc era
what situation? it hints to the implication like something happened and he is adressing it?
ZP himself said ''musical differences'' - so i'm assuming he wanted to move onto maybe more progressive than just speed. (kinda like a Dream Thetre vibe) but Sam and Herman wanted to keep what was working. Which makes sense.
@@danielseaburg9763 this was like 10 years ago, why "address" it now? I was thinking of maybe he said something new but zp has like no online presence
DF albums were better with ZP
Marc es mil veces mejor. Quedate en casa ZP, no vuelvas a DF
now explain the Vadim situation
Vadim is Christian
Dragonforce is Power Metal Band
@@herdavaian that was never a problem before
I saw a video Vadim posted on his Facebook some years ago, where he addressed it. The main issue was he felt like the music business as a whole was going under, and that he wasn't getting paid enough to keep touring since he's a recent father. On top of that (now there is some assumption here) the people who make money off of streams and music sales are the songwriters, and Sam is pretty much the sole writer of the band, which would leave Vadim little to nothing from the band income. The money stuff on top of him feeling conflict being a dad and a hardcore Christian now amongst a band of "non-believers" led him to leave the band, since he felt out of place along with the financial struggle.
@@nerfherder4444 makes sense, good for him
@@nerfherder4444it’s also worth noting Vadim said he felt like his input on music was completely ignored by the rest of the band and that he felt like they really didn’t care about him coming back to work after sitting out the Reaching Into Infinity cycle
Someone can tell me what was happened with ZP?
Basically, ZP had a different musical opinion of DragonForce, and thought that their music were probably too samey or not original anymore. And so, he quit to form his own band.
Marc is the best thing to happen to the band other than the success of TTFAF video and then Guitar Hero. Marc is a professional, he takes care of his voice. They haven't had to down tune the guitars for him and live he sounds like the album. I prefer the sound of his voice as well, but even leaving that out, Marc is great.
Marc is not any more professional and he doesn't really take care of his voice the way you think he does. But yes, they haven't had to down tune the guitars for him live, they instead started using playback for Marc which is much worse lol. ZP was better both live and in studio.
You know Marc has been lipsyncing since 2014, right?
Big no. Marc, up to the point he joined DF, was some guy that sang at a few bar gigs, & was chosen simply because he was local. Which makes the whole 'worldwide audition' in 2009-2010 completely redundant. ZP was featured in Metal Hammer. He had the chops & the backing. Marc sounds like he's struggling in just about every note he hits. There's a video of Soldiers of the Wasteland live I watched & he couldn't hit any of the notes. At all. Marc's harsh vocals though are killer. His cleans hurt my ears though.
Marc speaks during solos that shit is cool if done right but he does it annoyingly
Marc has not been lip syncing.
There's a video of the most recent tour where he misses his cue to go back after the Soldiers solos. No vocals play, and he comes in when he genuinely sings. You can even hear the backing vocals of Alicia and Billy live with no Marc.
100% no lip syncing. Can't speak for everything else with certainty, but Marc has grown so much over the years, the man has total control of his voice. If you're a true professional, you can nail it every time.
Where is ZP now? I couldn't find any of his update last 2 years
I was wondering the same thing. ZP himself hasn't provided any updates himself ever since he was on his I am I band.
He could be died or something because no one get any updates about him. If anyone can get the info from his band member I think it would be great to post on social media. One of the best singer that I ever listened
@@Toshineko He was touring with Skid Row until Erik Grönwall took over, although he parted ways with them too a while back. Haven't seen or heard anything since.
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They improved with marc
Marc is great but ZP is a virtuoso
ZP is far far better than Marc Hudson
honestly, i like zp more at studio, but live he is full of shit, so my conclusion is: marc wins live, but zp wins at the studio
No thank you ZP. Marc is by far superior
Understandable.
Hahahaha no, Although your opinion is respected, the reality is that zp in terms of voice and essence was a unique thing and not. ZP was superior and a fan who has been with them since 2008 can tell you.
We can't stand you other vocalist, let's be honest
Who marc?
was real great with ZP in the band, and I really thought you never could replace him and keep the sound. But you did and Marc Hudson is just GREAT in his role. I sometimes listen to ZP's new band I_AM_I. Really good. Not Dragonforce good, but still real good.
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