Better Plugged-In Acoustic Guitar Sound Basics: Pickups, PA, Amps & All That Stuff - That Pedal Show
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
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In this episode we delve into the world of amplified acoustic guitars. It’s a problem area for literally anyone who plays live with the ol’ flattop. Dan and I both do our fair share of acoustic gigs so we thought we’d start looking at some basics on the show.
We start off by reminding you what an acoustic guitar kinda/sorta sounds like with a mic in front of it, before heading into the world of plugging in via a PA system and/or acoustic guitar amplifier. We also take a brief look at a couple of ‘pedals’, more of which in part 2.
Apology time: I make THREE SCHOOLBOY ERRORS during the show (Mick here)…
I call the non-cutaway Martin a 000-18E. It is in fact an OM-18E - links below.
I explain that a piezo pickup is a piezo-electric transducer. And then like a total dumbass call it an electro-magnetic device. Which of course it isn’t. Piezo-electric transducers use pressure to create a current. Electro-magnetic pickups uses a magnet and a coil. Sorry - brain-fry!
I call the pickup system in the Martin guitars an LR Baggs Lyric. It is in fact an LR BAGGS ANTHEM (link below).
Apologies all round - brain trying to do too many things at once and I didn't have my Shreddies this morning.
Apart from all that, please enjoy the episode!
Pedals and amps in this episode…
• LR Baggs Align Series Session
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• LR Baggs Align Series Equalizer
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• LR Baggs Align Series Reverb
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• Orange Acoustic Pre
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• AER Compact 60 III
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• Mesa Boogie Rosette 300 Two:Eight
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Guitars in this episode
• Martin OMC-28E (with LR Bags Anthem pickup)
www.martinguitar.com/guitars/...
• Martin OM-18E (with LR Bags Anthem pickup)
www.martinguitar.com/guitars/...
• Collings CJ35 (with K&K Pure Mini pickup)
www.collingsguitars.com/acous...
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Oh no - they’re singing! 0:00
- Hello! 3:00
- What are we doing today? 3:45
- What proportion of your gigs are acoustic? 4:20
- …because people like it! 5:51
- The sound of a mic’d acoustic guitar: 8:44
- … Martin OM-18E, OMC-28E and Collings CJ35
- Back in the room: 14:38
- Mick has no sense of humour about acoustic guitars: 15:02
- Are you reluctantly acoustic? 16:05
- Acoustic was nowhere in the 1980s: 16:45
- Plug in… and all the problems start: 18:00
- Oops, we accidentally bought a PA system: 19:14
- The sound of a nice pickup into a PA: 19:50
- …and an undersaddle straight into the PA: 20:59
- And that’s the sound of plugged-in acoustic guitar as we know it: 23:45
- More reluctant purchases: 25:30
- Mick’s acoustic sound, and what we’re not prepared to give up: 26:57
- LR Baggs Align Series: 31:15
- Orange Acoustic Pre Twin Channel: 34:11
- Phase and the acoustic guitar: 36:25
- Tangent time… 39:35
- …combine harvesters: 39;35
- …The Wurzels' sagely advice: 40:28
- Acoustic guitar pickup types: 41:50
- What about a microphone? 43:50
- And back to the program: 45:27
- Acoustic guitar amp - another reluctant purchase: 46:48
- Mick’s acoustic rig: AER Compact 60 3: 47:50
- Piezo pickups and tone ‘problems’: 54:30
- Mesa Boogie Rosette 300: 55:15
- Parametric mids explanation: 58:20
- Oh no, they’re jamming again: 1:00:02
- Acoustic guitar into an electric amp? 1:04:35 (1:05:55) (1:07:45)
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Oh wow. Thank you kindly! Gives us great confidence for the band. We were worried people would think we were just being indulgent. Thank you.
What a nice surprise!
Friendly sound guy here, great show as usual and LOVE this topic because I can't tell you how many crap sounding acoustics I've run sound for. I'm not much of an acoustic player myself, but here's just some sound guy nuggets to enrich this guitar loving audience:
- Acoustic amps are way better than wedges most of the time because the front surface of your acoustic resonates, and changing the location and angle of the stage sound putting a human body between the speaker and the guitar helps enormously.
- cheap sounding pickups just can't be fixed at the board, but the good ones while kinda gross pre-eq can sound fantastic once they've been EQ'd. So far the best sounding direct sound I've ever heard came from a Mcpherson guitar played by a blue grass pro who's been playing longer than I've been alive. The worst sound is tied between Ovation and Ibanez (sorry)
- The back side of speakers put out a ton of low end, so 99 times out of 100, I'm having to trim a bunch of low out of your signal to keep it from resonating into feedback, that's why it sounds so "thin" to you, and sorry but that's just the way it's gotta be
- A feedback buster DOES have a negative effect on your guitar, but it's far less negative that howling feedback, so if you're playing in a loud situation or with a full band, plug that hole.
- The number one sign for me of an acoustic player that's going to give me a good signal is walking in with one of those LR Baggs acoustic preamps, the one with the built in tuner and parametric EQ. I don't know why, but almost everyone who walks in with one of those just does a better job.
- Play your strings harder than you think you should, it just makes everything sound better. I'm not saying full punk rock jackhammer, but put some heat on it when playing live.
Hope that helps, or at least gives you a little more idea of how your sound guy is thinking.
Thank you for that Sven - useful and enlightening!
Funny how I found the pedal show while searching for videos on amps and pedals, and I think I've learned almost as much about tips to help my sound board running. Thanks Sven, some nice pointers.
Thank you very much for such a great advice. I am one of the nerdyes walking with LR Baggs preamp and my acoustic amp as my monitor. Always getting from the rest of the band --there is no need-- feel revindicated 📣😀
Sven, hi, having been dissatisfied with my cheap piezo equipped guitars for years I asked my bandmate how he got such a good sound with his Martin x series electro acoustic. It turns out that it's not the onboard preamp but a passive DI box between the guitar and PA. I tried it with my low budget acoustic and it works well, it now sounds like an acoustic when amplified. Perhaps this would work with the Ovation and Ibanez guitars too? Or did you do this already? Ian
as a sound engineer and musician myself, I fully support this! It's true, whenever I see LR Baggs, it's like and instant tell that the player is no schmuck lol
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I agree. Let's like this until they do it :-)
DO IT!!!!
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rasm0225 Dude, I actually laughed out loud! Great stuff.
That Pedal Show has officially become That "how to be a great gigging musician who's ready for anything" Show, and I love it!
Cheers Pat :)
I dig it! I love a good fuzz pedal, but I get so much more knew knowledge from these type of shows, and that carries over to live performances where I can take advantage of what I've learned. Amazingly valuable.
the perfect balance of helpful gigging advice and pure guitar nerdery
Your voices go well together. I'd pay to see this cover band. :)
Alright fishy paw? Thought you might tell them that in Scotland "hen" means lassie ;-)
Hey man. lol, they probably know that already. How's your wonderful home made looper and pedal board? I hope your getting lots of good use out of them.
The board went through a radical downsize - less is more (controllable!).
"Here Comes the Sun" is such a great song for two acoustic guitars - you get kind of a 12 string type sound with one capo'd up high. My friend and I jam that one often when we see each other. Good singing and playing! I know you guys sing all night at your gigs, so no surprise there. I can see why there are so many acoustic gigs - the bigger rooms with big, loud bands are currently diminishing. It seems that the big clubs all have house DJs and the 'real' music is in small places - restaurants, pubs, lounges, etc. That could be just in my little corner of the world, but our town is losing it's last 300 seat bar, which is where I had a house gig every Saturday.
Dan just showed exactly how to play with another person. As soon as Mick played a lead part in that last section of this, Dan backed off with a much simpler rhythm part. It didn’t take much space up in the mix and it made Mick sound awesome. I wish more musicians understood this!
It's Friday, that means one thing....That Pedal Show!!!!!
Well, as an insignificant part of the TPS audience, I love this!
As a regular (aren't we all!) viewer, I can't tell you how long I have been waiting for this!!!!!! More Acoustic stuff, please!.... as Mick says.... "people like it!"
Check out the Paul Jackson, Jr. Instructional Guitar Video - ua-cam.com/video/HUDAdtj3D7c/v-deo.html
F Me. Here I am in Covid Iso, North of Sydney. My wrists ache from too much guitar, I'm a bottle of Hunter Shiraz in, I've watched ALL of UA-cam. And you guys have just made me smile so wide and so long that I feel like a new man. Thanks fellas!
Ok - the universe as we’ve known it has just imploded! Dan playing a Martin with a PRS strap, acoustic guitars on TPS, and this videos wasn’t blocked by the UA-cam police! LOL. Seriously, you guys do have to take the acoustic set on the road. It would be an amazing show.
I have a Gibson strap on my Fender and a Fender strap on my Gibson.
When worlds collide...
And a strap-on..
No. Stop there, Gilbert. Quit while ahead.
Thank you guys for doing this show! I plug my acoustic into a DI every Sunday (with a few pedals in between) and this has opened my eyes to some new gear. Love all your shows!
Ladies and gentlemen please welcome Dan and Mick Here - The Here Brothers! ........So sorry, I am a 52 year old father of 4 this is best I can do! Please don't block me. Great show.
Dad jokes are the best jokes.
Could bill themselves as The Hear Brothers.
This is so relevant to me in my band right now that this has become such a perfectly timed release of a video. Thank you both for your deep exploration!
If you are going to use a passive piezo, then you would do well to plug it into a very high impedance input, on the order of 5-10 Megaohms, like a Z.Vex Super Hard-On. Piezos have a very high characteristic impedance, and they improve greatly by plugging them into an appropriate impedance, rather than the usual 1 Megaohm of the average guitar amp or other audio gear. A Countryman Type 85 DI has an input impedance of 10 Megaohms.
Super hard-on? I don’t know if I would sound any better playing with one. I think it may be a little distracting but hey whatever works.
Once you do a gig with a great acoustic amp ... you will never go back. Ever.
It allows you to play expressively and get away from the strummy-strummy. And if you use it as your monitor running vocals and guitar through it ... say good bye to being at the whims of a sound man. It is heaven. HEAVEN!
Yep!
Agreed! LOVE my Fishman amp. Bye bye sound guy. ; )
Which acoustic amp do you recommend Murray? I tried a Fender Acoustic 200 with guitar and vocal, and really liked it.
I couldn't believe my ears the first time I heard a proper, high-quality acoustic amp. I ran a Tele through it for THE clean Jazz guitar tone. And ofc, an acoustic. Alas, I can't remember the brand and it was super-expensive so I didn't end up buying it. Belongs to a mate who has a store in Sydney.
I mean.. in a more practical sense.. it’s a hell of a lot easier to lug one acoustic amp and throw a mic/cables in a backpack to go gig most bars/coffee shops. You can add a 400w powered speaker run from the output of the amp if you need more power, or go into a PA the venue has. If you’re doing acoustic/electric mixed gigs things change but for a solo or small group acoustic amps just win.
Right on time! I'm currently exploring more pedal options for my acoustic. Thank you, guys!
Wow I’ve watched the show for years and am just now discovering this video - so lovely to hear D&M singing and playing a George tune. Warms my heart. Thank you for your inspiration and for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us all for so long!
DAN!! You bloody, brilliant, bespectacled, bearded bugger!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
That look Dan gives Mick during the opening jam...❤️❤️❤️
Daniel Etchells real bromance
A couple of years ago, I was searching for “effects for acoustic guitar” on UA-cam, and I stumbled across your channel, then you guys helped me learn how to enter the electric guitar world. If you’re worried that your audience won’t like acoustic episodes, I can tell you that most worship leaders in the US play acoustic and are constantly wanting to improve their acoustic sound through a PA, or they’re wanting to transition to electric. Either way, you guys can make a show about almost anything and you’ll be helping someone out there. Keep up the good work!
This was one of my favorites. Can’t wait for part two.
My favorite electro-acoustic sound is actually a soundhole pickup into a clean, fender-y amp with loads of headroom. It's definitely not a typical acoustic sound, but it has a certain warmth and midrange to it that makes it a unique and completely usable sound that actually sits in a mix quite well! It's not gonna jump out at you, but it works great as a sort of bed for the other sounds to sit upon. Listen to The Tallest Man On Earth for some examples, he's a big fan of this sound and will even use it playing solo! Also, Elliott Smith was a big fan of passive soundhole pickups; except he would just plug into the mixer. I think he might've even recorded with one, but don't quote me on that
YAAAAY! Paranoid Android!
I'll finish watching the show now.
I’m 44 and I picked up the guitar during Covid! Now I can not put it down! I should have started a long time ago! But now I am determined to get as good as you guys one day! There is something about acoustic guitars! Keep up the great work!
Great stuff Doug 🤓👍
Resonator next😅
Loved the start to the show. Ultimately, I play music to be in a band, and to play with my friends, and for others, and this came across more strongly in the first 10 mins of this show than in any other one. before
AER Compact 60. I have one of these brilliant tiny boxes. Dan's reaction to it was unexpected and delightful!
Don't let the size deceive you, they are serious kit. I mostly use it for home rehearsal using my modelling pedalboards (Headrush, Amplifire) and backing vocals (SM58 clone). It's a perfectly formed compact mono PA system.
Anyway, my next challenge is how to make an electric guitar sound like an acoustic for a tiny part in one song, through a modelling pedalboard into a PA, and this has given me inspiration. Thanks guys!
Absolutely wonderful! Great cover! had no clue you guys did anything with acoustic guitars and I absolutely love it! I would definitely be interested in watching more shows on this topic.
Holy Cow! I came across this TPS episode while researching use of a compressor pedal with an acoustic guitar. I love hearing you two play and to hear you sing - Most Excellent Dan & Mick!!!
As always, I come away from another of your presentations with new knowledge to improve my sound/tone.
Best Regards,
James
Just started an acoustic side project. This video is worth its weight in gold.
Cheers
I like your show a lot. I genuinely had joy in my heart hearing you guys play those acoustics so lovingly! What a great episode!
A lovely detour from the norm seeing you guys perform together, well done ! I play regular acoustic gigs so im quite interested to see what wisdom i can absorb here; thanks for all your hard work guys!
Dan and Mick should make an acoustic cover album. I'd buy it.
This is a great subject and I love the information I received from watching. My current acoustic rig starts with a Takamine EF261S AN & EC132SC then to an AER Compact 60/3 through an AER Pocket Tools Colorizer and Ernie Ball MVP Volume pedal. So far this setup is working for me.
Fantastic episode. Really looking forward to part two. Gotta say, really enjoyed all of your playing here. There's definitely something about the dynamics of acoustics that just make a duo work so well. Also gotta say, that AER amp sounds GODLIKE. Never heard a plugged in acoustic sound THAT good.
Thanks Brandon! It’s a super simple setup that just works. :0)
Love all the electric stuff but super pumped that you guys are covering off acoustic gear in this show. Awesome!
There's something spectacular about Dan playing an acoustic while wearing an all you need is fuzz t-shirt.
I use fuzz with acoustic all the time. But, then again... I'm an idiot. 😅🤣
I’ve been watching you guys for years I’ve known the band you played in and played in, but I didn’t realize how great your vocals are!
Nicely done guys !!!
Thanks guys. I can't tell you how much I needed this episode. Getting a good sound out of a good electric is so simple. But anytime to try to make an acoustic louder it sucks all the character out.
Make an album please, pretty please. Mick's voice is great, and Dan's harmonies are a perfect match.
Aw man, love the tune at the beginning! Was awesome seeing you guys playing with the band on the Greg Koch episode, awesome seeing the concepts put into context/practice.
One of the best shows in a while, excellent job and some beautiful plaything. Thank you.
Wow .... I just finished watching an interview with Paul McCartney and then tuned into this ... Well done guys!!
AWESOME episode guys. I’ve been waiting for this for a long time. I love electric guitar but must of my gigs tend to be on acoustic as you mentioned. Super informative as always :D
PD: clean sounds Pt. 2 PLEASE 🙄
So, I've chewed up and spit out a plethora of acoustics and preamps. What I've learned. 1. Taylor ES system is not the greatest. Blind listen to just about any other pickup system and you will agree. 2. In just about any acoustic preamp and or pickup, the first thing to do is cut the mids down by at least 60%. 3. Micing an acoustic is always better than any pickup but not convenient in a gig environment. 4. Play before you buy. Dont take the reviews as gospel. Go to the store and tey it out! We gig professionally. My gear is as follows. Guitars - Martin GPCPA1 with fishman Aura. Martin D28 with K&K pure mini. Preamps- LR Baggs Venue DI. Fishman Aura Spectrum.
Pure mini is a great pickup
YES!!! Bring on part 2!
So great sounding acoustics. Thanks for the episode!
Just some thoughts and ideas:
1. The AER sounds fantastic
2. That Acoustic Pedal Show on Tuesdays and the standard show on Fridays???
3. Since I don’t play for audiences bigger than family, I find using the electric guitar modulation pedals (mix knobs set to full effect)and amp fun for a low volume stereo effect. Wonder if that becomes exponentially more complicated with trying to run an acoustic amp in stereo? Considering phasing and such.
4. It would be cool to expand your budget conscious acoustic guitar idea to the most purchased models from Martin, Taylor, and ... maybe Yamaha or Epiphone.
"Whoops should have brought something cheap to test." If that isn't the That Pedal Show mantra by now I don't know what is! ;-)
Look forward to part 2 just based off that brief moment with the pedals, that sounded proper good & seemed like the best option for a small footprint type acoustic rig, guitar, pedal a couple cables...rig in a case.
Mick and Dan another fantastic show, from the days in "Guitar Buyer" magazine (miss that mag) you two never fail to inform and enlighten, and Mick don`t worry about getting mixed up with model numbers etc, how many guitars, amps, and pick-ups have you played, reviewed, or demo-ed over the years, I`ve got three kids and have trouble remembering their names lol, and Dan....the man with a hard-drive instead of a brain ;) from your days with guitar buyer, three pedals I still use (and always will) Maxon OD-808, Maxon AD-999 and MXR custom shop 75 reissue Phase 45.......Good Man Lads.....Peace and Love to you both..
This just popped up in my feed. 5yrs on I still absolutely love this one. But it's bloody alarming it's been 5 years, could've sworn it was one or two.
I use an my old Trace Acoustic amp 99% of the time for exactly the reasons Mick states.
My sound is available to the PA with no additional faff, plus I can monitor myself. Admittedly it doesn’t sound as good as that AER but it certainly beats any direct-to-PA sound Ive ever achieved. I’d say it sounds better than the Mesa though. If I can earn the thick end of £900 through gigs I may consider upgrading to an AER.
Friday is always better if you're working half (thanks God today I am) and if you watch TPS.
Epic performance at the beginning..
As other said Mary Spender would have been a great addition, but, nevertheless that was great.
Man, you guys nailed it. I also play mostly acoustic live right now, but spend most of my time and money nerding on electric stuff. And also never considered an acoustic amp until now, that sounded so much better!
One of the best episodes the last few months
That fancy-pants cutaway Martin sounds delightful
The boys here show how to do two acoustics at the same time: one guy should always capo and play differently voiced chords--two dudes banging out open position cowboy chords all night is lazy and boring.
Just gonna point out you used the words "Two dudes, Banging, Open, Position, and Cowboy" all in the same sentence.
Cedar Bay
Wasn’t there a film about two cowboys banging?
Just saying not seen it myself......
Jamison Bebiak 😂
And all the sound techs said "Amen".
Capos are pretty boring too with that logic seeing as how you usually are playing cowboy cords using a capo
That was FANTASTIC. Who knew Mick had such a great singing voice? (Probably lots of people, but that was the first time I heard him singing the lead part.) Fine harmony by Daniel. Bravo!
He did a great Andertons video with Pete where he sang in a pub garden. Did Shake it Off iirc.
Thanks for pointing that out. For anyone else interested: ua-cam.com/video/xwKwngg27HA/v-deo.html
I love my AER compact 60 so much I bought a second one and run in stereo. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I’ve even sang though it for a gig. They are awesome.
All I can say is FINALLY!!! 😍
I’m an acoustic performer only and I’ve spent 10 years forming my wet/dry/wet rig with my Blackwood Cole Clark that blends a piezo, condenser and transducer for the dry and a fishman black stack hunbucker soundhole pick up into my pedal board including stacked o/d and modulations into an ac30/Roland ac60 acoustic amp/68 reissue Princeton reverb. The devil is in the details for acoustic and I’m so happy you mentioned about the utilities making the difference.
Keep it up fellas I loved this episode!!! #LifeLongSubscriber 😍😍😍
Really really REALLY nice job on the intro!
Damn that space makes such a great studio! Awesome balancing and mixing as usual of course. Thanks for doing this show!
P.S. This is another "headphones needed" video. You'll not hear much difference on a phone or smallish computer speaker.
I run a Godin Grand Concert Duet Ambiance into an inexpensive Behringer mixer and a pair of old KRK Rokit Powered 6 G2 monitors. (Those "Red" ones they made for Guitar Center years ago.) I use a cheap (but good) old MXL V63M mic to talk to the crowd (I don't sing though) and add a little of the board's built-in reverb to the guitar. The whole rig is very cost efficient and sounds great. That Godin really does sound like a very well mic'd guitar, and the crowd gets to hear the board's reverb in stereo---something I couldn't do with just an acoustic guitar amplifier.
Great episode, Guys! I, too, have been doing a ton of acoustic gigs lately and am currently putting together an acoustic-specific board. I also use the AER Compact 60/3 and love it. I'm playing a Martin 000-42 with the Baggs Anthem system and it sounds killer. Can't wait to see part 2!
One thing I’ve found VERY useful... using a soundhole plug to allow for high volume without feedback. I highly recommend this to anyone playing in a band setting or even a duo with a drummer.
Speaking for acoustic players everywhere, THANK YOU! very informative show. You guys are great.
Accoustics are great topic for you especially considering your insight. I am hoping for part on the "work needed to be done at mixing console". Can you see into that for a bit - eq, compression, etc.. What can a sound guy do to make accoustic sound nice (especially whet there are more of them). I would appreciate that because i am being on both sides of the PA.
You guys have beautiful voices. Can’t wait to hear the TPS band in action!
Steve Earle is great, I've seen him live so many times. Once saw him with the Del McCoury bluegrass band and I was amazed by the fact that they only had one mic on stage and would step forward and back like you say.
I've not played acoustic for years but I was given one recently as thanks for hanging a door for a friend (lol). I love it but it's hard work when you're used to playing electric. Funnily enough one of the first song I've learned is Eric Clapton's version of "Nobody Knows You (When You're Down and Out)".
Great video guys. Taught me tons as always. Cheers.
Acoustic in to a Roland Cube, job done! 😉
Boys, pack up the shed, take that act on the road!
Ahaha!!! Thanks Gavin. About 10 people usually come to my gigs. Mick here. 50,000 come every week on here. :0)
I'm having a pretty stressful/annoying day, but this intro brightened it up. Thanks Dan & Mick :)
I've played electric guitar on and off since I was 11 years old and now I'm nearly 40, I all that time I've never owned and acoustic guitar but have been thinking about it a lot recently. As always you seemed to have read my mind. Thanks guys another super show. 👍🎸
You should do a show on “mic simulation” pedals and preamps. I have been playing in a folk rock band for years and have been using the fishman Aura Spectrum DI and the mic blend on it has given me the best plugged in sound I’ve ever had, and has become quite a standard among professional players.
Seth Becker same here
Wow you guys can sing. I mean, really really well. It'd be interesting if you can do vocal processor pedal in the show as well :).
A very big thank you for taking on this topic, gents. As a songwriter, and a guy in a band, I love what acoustic can do for a song, even as a smaller part of a huge rock sound at times, but have always struggled with getting it to sound good enough to justify using it live over a clean electric. For big events I'll rent one with a much better pickup, but it's still not the same.
This, and the follow up episode, are such useful information. And this from a guy who plays electric 95% of the time, and has a board with 15+ pedals on it. I think many of us wanted to know more about this stuff WAY more than you thought we would.
If my acoustic could sound as good on stage as it did in the house, I'd consider myself more of an acoustic player.
This sums up so much of my experience playing live with an acoustic guitar and all the challenges that come along with it. The right gear would have helped me out back when I really was doing gigs on a frequent basis. Now it’s whenever I have time so I like watching these videos and simply enjoying shaping the sounds and if I get to share them one day then awesome; if not that’s ok too. Great Video guys!
Please do more acoustic stuff. Please.
Fantastic vid!! I don't know if you answered this somewhere else but here goes a question: Will a good acoustic amp compensate for a cheap acoustic guitar??
Depends, if it’s a cheap guitar but you love playing it you might consider a pick up upgrade
As a player that struggles with guitar in general and especially acoustic, I loved this show. Cheers!
OK firstly APPLAUSE!!! I swear I tear up every time you two play together - its just magic guys. Whatever comes after this intro is just a lovely bonus.
Senses working overtime.... at 30:35! What a class! Thank Youuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, yes, yes! Great riff. C'mon Dan get your mate Dave Gregory on - please!
Tech 21 has an acoustic d.i. that has been around for a long time. Check it out.
Thanks for posting this one. Best show to date in my opinion.
Thanks so much for this topic and for upcoming part 2.
Where are all the screaming teenage girls crashing the gates?
The building is too well soundproofed now, the girls can't find it!
They are on the roof. It’s not soundproof 😂
They are all here in the comment section mate!
Major rapeage
Live singing on an acoustic is always a mystical experience. It transcends time and harkens back millennia to our analog beginnings.
Apparently not when I’m playing & singing it doesn’t ... so cruel ...
+1 That Pedal Album
Best TPS for a while - looking forward to Part 2.
The whole thing with acoustic amplification is that you have what you have in terms of output and any adjustment needs to be done early in the signal chain. As the immortal Scotty said "You canna change the laws of physics cap'n"
I play in an acoustic two piece. I hated gigging until because our lovely sound we honed in our living rooms disappeared the second we plugged in. In the end we threw caution to the wind and just decided to one-mic the act (single condensor) and it's the best thing we've ever done. Not only does it sound lovely, you get to use mic technique; and because you're slightly quieter, the audience shuts up and engages with you. I know it's not possible for all setups but I will never go back to plugging in.
As a nonbinary person I feel like I just got a big hug with y'all mentioning folks like me!
That’s great, thank you! Here’s one right back to you. :0)
Lovely, I enjoyed that a lot. That cutaway Martin sounds awesome!
Well I was not expecting that intro. GOOSEBUMPS
Really wanted you two to break into “Can’t Find My Way Home” at the end there...
yEs！！
I’ve always sworn by compressors on an acoustic pedalboard. Makes fingerpicking so much easier in a band setting. Something to touch on for part 2 perhaps?
AWESOME episode!!!! Thank you!!!
About 8 months ago I walked into the guitar center, plugged a new Guitar Center model d'Angelico acoustic guitar into a new Fender Twin. $400 and thousands of air miles later that guitar still sound wonderful!
Lovely intro performance! What's your stage name? D&M Live? Dan and the Micks? That Pedal Stompers?
The Schwangrila's
TPS Tangents! :)
That Pedal Band
The Pedallin' Pimps
YEAH BABY! ft. Notorious D & M
Do you think you'd ever manage to get away with micing up an acoustic with condenser in your average pub gig? Or do you think it would just pick up way, way too much noise and feedback - I've never actually tried using a condenser in a live situation 'cos I've just assumed it would be a disaster.
I like that sound a lot, but the only example I remember is al di meola on stage, which probably means you have to be al di meola on stage
I've done it in coffee shops. You have to be very careful about mic placement in relation to the mains. It only worked when playing without stage monitors.
I’ve done it with an AT AE5400. It sounded great; however, it was a pain in the ass.
I have a Fender cd60, I once ran it into my Hughes and Kettner gm40h at rehearsal. The guys in the band we're amazed. Ive grown to love the sound of an acoustic through a tube amp.
Oh, wow. One of my all time favorite songs right at the start. Thank you!!!