How was this guitar allowed to leave the factory?!

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 791

  • @digital360
    @digital360 Рік тому +126

    Thumbs up for the honesty on the guitar. Hey, every company now and again can have one "slip through the cracks" as you stated, but that was beyond a reasonable exception from the rule. Hopefully Schecter sees this and fixes the QC issue asap.

  • @RequiemDead
    @RequiemDead Рік тому +151

    It's pretty rare for Schecter to have QC issues, not to say that it doesn't happen. I have gotten lucky with 5-6 Schecters that have come and gone through the collection without any issues.

    • @CrzyWzrd4L
      @CrzyWzrd4L Рік тому +15

      Tbf, my KM7 Mk3 was built pretty poorly and sounds like bongwater

    • @jimmybags1494
      @jimmybags1494 Рік тому +5

      I just got my first schecter, banshee mach 7, and it's insane how well built it is for an import, I was honestly surprised

    • @IamtheFerryMan
      @IamtheFerryMan Рік тому +4

      I've had a few over the years. Including exclusively playing a C1 Elite and an Omen 6 for a couple of years. Every Schecter I've touched, including my buddies Banshee, has been stellar. This sheds light on the possibility inspection doesn't include plugging it in and actually playing/listening to it. God damn, what a bummer.

    • @acidpancakes420
      @acidpancakes420 Рік тому +2

      Eh I’ve had like 6-7 schecters over time and 3 of them had bad QC issues I needed replaced afte they were they were great apart from the small string buzz I could just never get away. Also they never really intonated totally perfect okay for live not okay for studio

    • @acidpancakes420
      @acidpancakes420 Рік тому

      @@jimmybags1494 that’s the best guitar schecter make it’s the only one I miss

  • @joemed6222
    @joemed6222 Рік тому +27

    Don’t apologize I would be so stressed and pissed!!! Thanks for continuing on and pushing through. I’m new to your channel and enjoy what you’re doing so, keep doing what your doing !!🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

  • @robspectre1973
    @robspectre1973 Рік тому +28

    Played a brand new Schecter SLS today and it was absolutely amazing. Never seen a bad Schecter. Mine are fine and everyone I know who plays one has been flawless. Hate it happened to you.

    • @patrickolivier1
      @patrickolivier1 Рік тому

      I’ve been playing Schecter since 2007. Every one was perfect! The SLS Elite series is amazing!!

  • @mattgeisel3727
    @mattgeisel3727 Рік тому +241

    Fixing a guitar that has quality issues like the one in the video is not a good practice. It excuses the poor quality and supports it. Companies rarely change unless revenue and profit are effected. If people continue to purchase and accept subpar products, it eliminates the motivation for the company to improve. I used to fix minor things on new guitars, but I refuse now and immediately send the guitar back. If you find one problem, odds are there are more and you may not notice those until it's too late. Vote with your dollars folks, it's the only way the companies and manufacturers will hear you. Also, if time is money, what is the net cost of the guitar to Kyle?

    • @Metaldad87
      @Metaldad87 Рік тому +6

      I agree on that, time is very much money. It is really tempting to fix the issues though because I'm thinking it's already here, it's not that bad, I don't want to spend the time to send it back and wait for a new one 😂

    • @joelcprice
      @joelcprice Рік тому +10

      100%. Don’t excuse issues just because it’s an affordable line. CNC machines cut the guitars to very exact specifications. There’s a minuscule margin or error or it’s a faulty piece of wood. Those guitars should be recycled for wood pulp or something. QC for these companies won’t improve if they don’t see instruments coming back.

    • @garyhundsrucker7771
      @garyhundsrucker7771 Рік тому

      I bought a Jackson Rhodes v and was so happy with the quality on the outside for a $450.00 guitar…until I looked in the trem cavity.One of claw screws is at a 45degree angle sticking out sideways.But the thing is it plays and sounds great as it is! Do I just leave it like that and wait till something snaps on me?!

    • @mltproductionstudio
      @mltproductionstudio Рік тому +1

      @@garyhundsrucker7771 wait till it snaps 😂

    • @MrJd5996
      @MrJd5996 Рік тому +10

      Very fair points.
      I think, however, that what Kyle did here by bringing this to the attention of possibly thousands, or tens of thousands of potential Schecter customers in an honest straightforward way is arguably far more damning to Schecters bottom line.
      Am I going to buy that guitar after watching Kyle’s video?
      Nope!

  • @chrisbouve846
    @chrisbouve846 Рік тому +3

    Even if not for the shitty shim in the bridge pin slot, grounding is still usually an issue with the coated bridge. I have a black coated tune-o-matic and ended up sanding off the finish on the bushing and stud to the raw metal for a better connection for the ground. Helped a ton.

  • @WholeLottaBulldog
    @WholeLottaBulldog Рік тому +19

    Love the honesty, man. I've not played a bad Schecter, however I've not played one made in the last 5 or so years. All of my schecters but one are 10 to 20 years old and from the Korean factory. Great guitars

    • @bikeman1x11
      @bikeman1x11 Рік тому +2

      the korean ones are generally top notch i dont know where they are making them today

    • @TimothyHuffGuitar
      @TimothyHuffGuitar Рік тому +1

      I have 3 Schecter guitars...absolutely love each one of them. It all started with my Damien Elite FR-6.
      Came with Gotah locking tuners, EMG 81/85 humbuckers, and a Floyd Rose Special.
      Second I went with a Hellraiser C-1 FRS. l really like the Sustaniac/EMG 81 combo and the Black Cherry finish.
      My latest and favorite is the Schecter C-7 Apocalypse FRS Red Reign.

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 Рік тому +1

      I bought a brand new Demon 7 during the Pandemic. Plays absolutely great and never had a single issue. Still has the QC Sticker from their factory so I know mine was number 49 of that run and who inspected it.

  • @Excellerator420
    @Excellerator420 Рік тому +11

    I drove up to sweetwater and picked up a E1 FRS a few weeks back and love it so far. ZZounds has always taken care of me in the past so hopefully they help you out. Their parent company American music supply is usually pretty fair too. I might look into a evil twin next. my favorite guitar is my C1 Apocalypse so having the same neck finish but satin paint might be the right combo.

  • @DudeMcGuybro
    @DudeMcGuybro Рік тому +10

    I've dealt with so much customer service bullshit in the past week, I had audio monitors fail under warranty, my computer keyboard stopped working, Walmart broke my window during an oil change, and I feel every bit of the frustration you feel about this guitar hahaha. 😂 There's just so much shit that gets past the QC anymore. It's easier than ever to return items, so they don't bother to spend the money QCing each item. There really is no QC for any companies anymore, they'd rather deal with angry customers than make it right the first time it seems.

    • @jamesjohnson5790
      @jamesjohnson5790 Рік тому +2

      Damn! You have had a bad week, and we're only 6 days into the month! 😩😂

    • @roaddog7542
      @roaddog7542 Рік тому

      Broke a window .... 😮

    • @raytorvalds3699
      @raytorvalds3699 Рік тому +1

      How the hell did they break a window during an oil change?! wtf.
      (I'm a mechanic). Sorry you've had such bad luck the past week.

  • @k2rocksstl
    @k2rocksstl Рік тому +2

    I have ALWAYS loved Explorer, V, Iceman and Destroyer models. I recently bought a Gibson RD reissue and it's THE guitar I've always wanted and never knew about.

  • @mikefrombloodofthewolf7076
    @mikefrombloodofthewolf7076 Рік тому +5

    I felt the same way as you did when I bought and returned a $1700 Jackson Concept Series King V. Whoever did the QC on that guitar did it with their eyes closed!

  • @bruffx9736
    @bruffx9736 Рік тому +4

    Your honesty about your frustration earned my subscription.... Looking forward to watching more of your content.

  • @Pusheadcic
    @Pusheadcic Рік тому +17

    On the ESP/LTD guitars, they use a larger bushing for the stop bars. They use a metric post but a SAE bushing width. I always have to look for replacements every time I swap hardware on an Eclipse. It looks like they just used a normal metric bridge stud there, which is why the hole is too big.

  • @guitarforfun2596
    @guitarforfun2596 Рік тому

    I recently purchased a new epiphone jerry cantrell wino.
    Same deal.
    Ground issue.
    The ground wire at the bridge was lose.
    I returned it and they gave it back to me still no good.
    I fixed it myself.
    I was very disappointed
    But now the guitar is working correctly
    I'm loving it.

  • @arthurrose6473
    @arthurrose6473 10 місяців тому +1

    Bravo Kyle, for the can do follow thru, and I'm sure Shecter got the message too!

  • @blackblurable
    @blackblurable Рік тому +2

    This is why I went with an Ibanez. I was looking for a new guitar as my first one that is brand new. After seeing some Schecter reviews about the input jack, finish issues and problems with the nut or something. Once I saw electrical issues, I decided to roll with a new RG. Both actives, slightly different with Fishman’s instead of EMG’s. The RG was a bit more expensive but looks and plays phenomenal. One day I’ll get a Schecter hellraiser like the signature one that Jeff Loomis had. That was such a great guitar for the price, at least for a 7 string.

    • @CarlosSaulRodriguezA
      @CarlosSaulRodriguezA Рік тому

      Funny, to me happened when i got my own RG7... grounding issues, frets a bit too sharp on edges and a small defect on the binding (for some reason, the laquer had a bit of the color of the body right under the lacquer, so unscrappable without removing all the lacquer... not big deal, but it will be always there, judging you from the 15th fret...), the guitar sounded awesome, but needed so much extra work after being so hyped and also not being exactly a cheap investment, i got really dissapointed...

  • @jmon885
    @jmon885 Місяць тому

    I have this exact same guitar. Mine had zero QC problems. It's my favorite guitar and I play it all the time.

  • @frankenstein4106
    @frankenstein4106 Рік тому

    I got an Epiphone Lazarus from Sweetwater a couple months back. Everything on the guitar was great except for the bridge volume knob was extremely hard to turn between the 7 to 9 position. No way you could roll it with one finger. It didn't get damaged in shipping since it was in a case and the box showed no signs of damage. I contacted my rep who sent the issue to the repair shop. First I was sent a solid shaft pot when I needed a split shaft pot. Then they sent me a Gibson branded split shaft which was better than what came in the guitar. Even though it was a small issue, it took over a week to get resolved. I wasn't going to send the guitar back just because of one pot which I could replace. Plus the guitar otherwise played great and had a wild flame in the mahogany on the back of the headstock!

  • @Drew_Vernon
    @Drew_Vernon Рік тому +1

    Props for the honesty. Not many YT guitarists would release this video tbh!

  • @shawn_hatfield
    @shawn_hatfield Рік тому

    Great video, Kyle. Honest videos like this go along way. Relatively new subscriber, loving the content. Thanks man!

  • @guitarded222
    @guitarded222 Рік тому +1

    Ordered a gen 1 schecter Keith Merrow sig back in the day. Neck and fretwork was awesome...BUT... straight out of the box it was a very scratchy sounding volume knob with a similar issue you had with feedback. Had to take my brand new guitar into the local shop (who was not the original seller as i cannot buy schecter in my area) and had to pay for a complete rewiring. Sounds great now but really put a damper on the new guitar day experience, and added to the cost. I dont wanna say I'll never buy schecter again but i would 100% be looking at other companies first.

  • @SpinnGuitar
    @SpinnGuitar Рік тому +1

    LOL for a minute there I actually put my hand over my strings and thought it was me. Keep up the great content Kyle. Love your Channel man.

  • @kez850
    @kez850 Рік тому

    Thanks for keeping it real instead of hiding things to please a manufacturer

  • @sethj_y
    @sethj_y Рік тому

    I bought this exact guitar in July 2022. 2 months into owning it my bridge pickup completely stopped working. Schecter sent a new pickup but same issue. Dealer ended up having to rewire the entire guitar; bad solder connections, bad wire insulation, etc. Hopefully Schecter helped out the dealer afterward because it was a big job.

  • @EricMiller630
    @EricMiller630 Рік тому

    Bought a "blemished" Ibanez SRF706 bass from zZounds back in 2019. When I first played it, I found the bridge pickup to not be fully functional. Assumed it was possibly broken. Opened it up and foud a FOUR STRING bass pickup in a SIX STRING bass. QC are always human...

  • @oRizho
    @oRizho Рік тому +6

    I was looking into those Weber speakers not that long ago, now I REALLY wanna see a demo on them 👀

  • @Jaymesbggs1
    @Jaymesbggs1 Рік тому +1

    Wow! I recently bought a Schecter Banshee Mach 6 ($1600 guitar) and it is easily the best guitar I’ve played. Incredible QC as well! Hopefully, Schecter can lock down their control. They are offering some of the best price/performance guitars available currently.

  • @jeremymcclure3372
    @jeremymcclure3372 Рік тому

    Noticed the Splawn amp in the background they are located a rocks throw away from my house in our little town, I get excited when I see their stuff anywhere.

  • @jeremymcfarland1575
    @jeremymcfarland1575 Рік тому +9

    A kind of interesting explorer esque shaped guitar I know of is the Hagstrom Fantomen. Strange Gibson RD/Explorer model, decent electronics, dense body, 25.5 in scale, it’s a fun piece of hardware

  • @Kiobo7n7
    @Kiobo7n7 Рік тому

    The shim on the bridge post is very common, normally posts are 1/2 inch and drill bits sale 1/2 inch so the shim is for it fit right, if you use a drill bit smaller the post may crack the wood, the issue here was the pickups, and the qc person who didnt check it out right

  • @JustBlueFish
    @JustBlueFish Рік тому +3

    Dude, like every guitar I've bought in the last few years (USA Gibson and Fender, MIJ Jackson and Ibanez, the list goes on), every guitar, has had some sort of issue... And I don't mean a little cosmetic defect. I mean issues that make the guitar unplayable, from poorly cut nuts to tremolo's that won't stay in tune, to microphonic pickups. It's always F'ing something.

    • @jacobshred67
      @jacobshred67 Рік тому

      that just sounds unbelievable to me that real gibsons or fenders would be UNPLAYABLE…. i have a 87 amarican fender strat it’s just incredible , but i bought like five harley bentons in the past year and they were all perfect litterally flawless except one. there les paul jr they make in indonesia is NOT far off of my fender in terms of feet work

  • @Metaldad87
    @Metaldad87 Рік тому +2

    That honestly sounds like the feedback Glenn and Andrew baena got on those cheap matte black Harley bentons, which turned out to be the coating on the bridge as in the powder coating was too thick and it wasn't grounding properly

    • @Andrew_182
      @Andrew_182 Рік тому +1

      Same issue, slightly different cause yeah

  • @AdoreYouInAshXI
    @AdoreYouInAshXI Рік тому

    I bought a Hellraiser Hybrid C-1 a few years ago. It was my first Schecter guitar, and the QC was terrible. One of the knobs was somehow pressed down so hard into the body of the guitar that it had bitten into the wood and wouldn't turn. At first I thought it may have happened during shipping, but there was no damage to the box. And upon further inspection it was cross threaded and installed at an angle. I still have no clue how it got pressed down into the body of the guitar though. The input jack was also missing a nut to hold it in place. I thought I may have gotten a dud so when I was recently in the market for an affordable explorer shaped guitar I ALMOST bought this exact one. It had the features I liked, and I do love the look. Based on this video I'm glad I didn't. I ended up going with a Snakebyte (in the new camo finish), and not only was the QC fantastic but it was set up spectacularly out of the box. Schecter may be a great company, but I don't trust their QC.

  • @natethompson1257
    @natethompson1257 Рік тому +1

    All import guitar brands have seen a decrease in QC in the wake of the pandemic. It's rare for Schecter to have such atrocious QC issues, but there have been more reports of duds leaving the factory than usual in the last couple of years. QC does seem to be returning to normal (as in pre-pandemic) levels in 2023 so far, but a good chunk of imported axes made from mid 2020 to late 2022 will have moderate issues it seems.

  • @Clapbomb
    @Clapbomb Рік тому +1

    I recently bought a new schecter 8 string multiscale Omen elite, made from the indonesia factory, and I had to do a lot of set up work... 4 of the 8 grooves cut in the nut were too low causing it to sound like a bango as the strings rattled on the first fret. There was a scratch along the edge of the guitar that needed a touch up. The 24th fret was too high on the high e string and had to sand that down to get the 23rd fret note to sound out. One of the tuning knobs its kinda janky when you go to tune. The string action was all over the place and the pick ups were really low. After all that, I absolutely am in love with the guitar and it sounds and plays amazing... I bought it from drumcity guitarland and it said on their website they set up the guitars, it definitely was never touched.

    • @Clapbomb
      @Clapbomb Рік тому

      I just want to add, I reached out to drumcityguitarland and they hooked me up with a contact to schecter who is sending me out a replacement tuning knob. Shout out to both of those companies for good customer service.

  • @TurbulentJuice
    @TurbulentJuice Рік тому +1

    My Schecter SLS had two neck pickups in it and the coil split for the bridge wasn't wired in and didnt work. I don't think the new Schecter's are any different than any other guitar coming from WMI. They're good most of the time but when you prioritize quantity over quality this happens.

  • @RTMvideos
    @RTMvideos Рік тому +4

    Wow, great timing, I was literally just thinking about buying one of these soon. Any chance you'd check out the Jackson Demmelition explorer? The hardtail model looks pretty sweet.

    • @thegodslayer8545
      @thegodslayer8545 Рік тому +1

      Dont let this discourage you. This happens to every guitar company. No company can be perfect 100% of the time. I've owned 11 schecters and never had a single problem. I own 4 atm including 2 schecter Evil Twins, the V-1 & the Solo-II.

  • @GypsyDanger514
    @GypsyDanger514 Рік тому

    I’ve been having problems with schecter here lately. I bought a banshee with the sustainiac, and FR. It was advertised as setup to play. I got it home, immediately had to reset the Floyd rose. Noticed there was a burr on one of the screws for the Floyd rose, so it didn’t dive correctly. Instead of a smooth dive it would do dives in stages. I sent it back 3x to get repaired. Never got fixed. Ended up getting a full refund. Now I have a Damian elite that won’t stay in tune for nothing. If we’re being forced to pay upwards of 750, we expect quality.

  • @flapjack413
    @flapjack413 Рік тому +1

    Can Fishman Fluence pickups actually be microphonic? As far as I understand, the coils are printed on a solid PCB, and thus shouldn't have loose coils to vibrate in a microphonic manner. I thought their inability to become microphonic over time was one of their selling points. Hmmm. Either way, QC problems on a new instrument are definitely frustrating. Happy that you got it sorted out, mostly.

    • @poison7512
      @poison7512 Рік тому

      No they can't be microphonic at all. Its literally impossible. There's something else going on there

  • @poorbrokeguitarist
    @poorbrokeguitarist Рік тому

    I recently got a Schecter from Zzounds. I am very grateful to them because without them allowing me to pay over 6 months I would have never been able to afford or get the guitar. I am very happy with my purchase. I did have to do my own setup and cut the nut better. For a $1300.00 guitar should not be an issue but no major issues. I got a Hellraiser Hybrid PT with Ultra Violet finish and EMG 57/66. This axe is a beast. Congrats on the NGD. Sorry for the issues but it happens.

  • @themodernguitarist
    @themodernguitarist Рік тому +2

    Surprised about the Schecter quality, but tbh not surprised about the Fishman's being noisy. I've had to return a set because the bridge pickup was busted and I heard of other people having varying kinds of issues.

    • @Andrew_182
      @Andrew_182 Рік тому

      Yeah, I got an EC1000 with a defective bridge pickup. Would randomly drop volume like I was rolling it off at the knob. After all the troubleshooting it was determined the only solution was replacing the pickup but it was at the height of the supply chain issues and they quoted me an 8+ week wait and I didn't want to deal with that so I sent it back and bought an identical one from sweetwater instead. Before that my buddy bought a set to drop into one of his RRs and the bridge was dead out of the box. Was replaced by fishman/sweetwater, and hes had no problems since nor have I with the replacement EC1000 or the m1007ht I bought last year, but it's still something I worry about tbh and something I try to mention when people ask about buying a fishman quipped guitar.

  • @thet740
    @thet740 Рік тому +1

    Every Schecter I've had was almost flawless. One of the last the body mounted EMGs could not be raised close enough to the strings without the mounting screw popping out. I've had more problems recently with Jackson guitars.

    • @klap00
      @klap00 Рік тому

      With direct mount pickups you need to put more foam underneath to raise them and use longer screws. But judging by the description you probably are raising them too high anyway already.

  • @jyang999
    @jyang999 3 місяці тому

    Great review and thanks for your honesty.

  • @vladimirpoutine7522
    @vladimirpoutine7522 Рік тому

    I have 53 guitars and there's something wrong with each and every one of them. Most are small issues that don't affect anything. The smallest of issues come from my 28 Gibsons which have tooling marks on the fretboard since they still have nibs. Except my 2015 LP. No nibs, no tooling marks. Perfect build.

  • @alonsoperez7196
    @alonsoperez7196 Рік тому

    Funny this is an "Explore-esque" video. A couple of years ago I bought a 7-string ESP LTD EX-307, from Zzounds. The costumer service I received was horrible when I called them to inform the big/back point was broken/ chipped!

  • @ZeraTheRedRogue
    @ZeraTheRedRogue Рік тому

    I used to always be super jealous of my old high school buddy's Schecter C1 Lady Luck because it just seemed so pristine for a mid range superstrat-ish guitar back in the mid 2000's, it's a shame to see such a goof up by them. I'm a big fan of the explorer body style and enjoy my Dean Z79 for both sitting and standing play.

  • @penoyer79
    @penoyer79 Рік тому

    i had my share of problems with mass produced guitars so i finally paid the piper and dropped $2200 on an ESP Eclipse a couple years ago. it's been the end all be all of guitars for me. right out of the box i picked it up and it was like finally coming home. that was it for me. i sold all my other electrics because now everything else just feels like playing a toy by comparison.

  • @NinecoreNeil
    @NinecoreNeil Рік тому +3

    Wow I usually swear by the Korean factory
    I have the solo 2 evil twin on order
    Guitar looks sick though tbh

  • @brycemooreguitar
    @brycemooreguitar 19 днів тому

    I just spent 1400 on a shecter e1 fr with sustaniac. It was mostly flawless except for 1 tiny area of the binding. Nothing to be too upset about. But for 1500 i would expect it to be dang near perfect. But it plays perfect so i decided to just keep it and deal with the blemish. It is one of the best guitars i have ever played so im glad i didnt send it back.

  • @slayerdevil100
    @slayerdevil100 Рік тому

    I understand how you feel. I bought a LTD arrow and was so excited but when I picked it up at guitar center it was is terrible condition, dirt and dust all over it and the Floyd was so far forward it was ridiculous. Ended up sending it back for a replacement, got the replacement, it was clean but the Floyd is messed up, doesn't sit flush with the body, tuners are so hard to turn, the string blocks were installed wrong causing strings to pop out. I'm just sick of fixing stuff that I shouldn't have to, if I spend $800 on a guitar, it should be pretty much perfect when I get it other than just a simple setup on how I like it.

  • @Acheron666
    @Acheron666 Рік тому

    They could of at the very least, dowelled the hole and re-drilled it to the correct size.
    I’ve had this issue with an Epi SG before, which I fixed using epoxy resin, then re-drilled when it was cured.
    I also had a Washburn where the nut wasn’t even secured.
    The strings on that had a lot of buzz, so I took the strings off to check the nut and it popped right out as soon as tension was released on the strings.

  • @JamieSlays
    @JamieSlays Рік тому +2

    Oh wow

  • @chriswalton3383
    @chriswalton3383 Рік тому

    I bought a B-stock Amarok from Harkey Benton. When I first got it, i couldn't really find anything wrong with it other than a tiny superficial scratch on the back of the body and I couldn't get the low E intonation right. Something I've fixed the intonation, but over time I noticed the frets were bevelled on too much of an angle which makes the low E and high E to want to slip off the fretboard. I e-mailed Harley Benton, sent photos and video of the issue and they emailed me back with, it's within the standard angle. So I never was able to send it back. They were OK to talk to, but fixing the issue was not in their books.

  • @plecogod
    @plecogod Рік тому

    Sorry to hear about the guitar. That is unacceptable for any new guitar, let alone one in that price range. I only own one Schecter, a 2010 made in Korea Diamond that I picked up in near mint condition for $150 (with a quality gig bag). That guitar is phenomenal and one of the best guitars I own. I still remember not believing the guy was actually going to sell me the guitar at that price and trying to leave as quickly as possible before he changed his mind..

  • @asherplatts6253
    @asherplatts6253 Рік тому

    I have a jackson jelly, and yeah, that rear bevel is like an anti-neckdive lever you can just lock your elbow into. It feels so secure and solid.

  • @K707OR30
    @K707OR30 Рік тому

    I love Schecter but you’re totally on point with this. This should’ve been raised up at the factory, but at the very least QC should’ve picked up on this when it got to the US. I’m wondering if QC playing tests just involve a clean channel to determine “is there signal, yes/no” and after that three second test of “is it making noise through an amp” that box is checked. Obviously a test with some gain would’ve caught this. If Schecter isn’t checking these guitars for signal with some gain that’s concerning because, well look at the designs - they presumably know their target market. Stands to reason these are guitars for high gain applications, so test accordingly.

  • @allanquiros6787
    @allanquiros6787 Рік тому

    I just bought a Schecter Omen Extreme. Beautiful guitar! However, I had a very similar experience. The guitar was super noisy out of the box...the noise went away when touching the pots. Checked with a multi-meter and found the bridge was not grounded. Open the cavity to find NO GROUND CABLE from the bridge. There was a piece of wire in the post hole, but it was just a fragment of wire. I ran a wire from the post hole to the first pot and the noise disappeared. Very irritating since Schecter and the store I purchased it from claim to inspect the guitars...

  • @D.Guitar
    @D.Guitar Рік тому

    The explorer shape Guitar was the first few modification builds I made. Because. Straight lines.. mostly straight lines. Easier to do. Too many curved. Like a double cut away carved top. Difficult to start out with just garage guy toola . Like 3" ×21" belt sander. 7.4" Circular saw.. cordless drills. Ect..

  • @mdskfx
    @mdskfx Рік тому

    Kyle - what do you think of the weber speakers? Have you done other videos yet with these speakers?

  • @PendingoBoy
    @PendingoBoy Рік тому

    I've got fishermans in my Explorer, they aren't the ceramics but they are killer for E standard and Drop D

  • @mcchurch118
    @mcchurch118 Рік тому

    Sorry to hear that dude, I hope it will work itself out in the end 🤘🔥🔥🤘

  • @chosenone2964
    @chosenone2964 Рік тому

    I had a bad experience with Zzounds, thankfully it was cheap, i bought a new Kramer Baretta special. Before i even played it i clipped out the the little capacitor that prevented the volume from swelling, neck needed to be sanded and conditioned, and restrung. While doing that I found a bunch of scratches and when i finally plugged in the pickups were going in and out, im assuming the wire to the pickups need to be resoldered. Wasnt happy but at that point could not return it

  • @KelticKabukiGirl
    @KelticKabukiGirl Рік тому

    My GF got me the Purple limited edition Sustainiac system Quilted maple burst E1 with composite fretboard and stainless steel frets with carbon fiber binding, 3 piece neck, the Sustainac is AMAZING for leads and also instant feedback and with the REAL Floyd Rose its just my dream guitar. QC Destroys my newer ,2021 Jackson Kelly KEQX green quilted top. The Korean Samick Factory makes LTD, Schecter and more, the Kelly was Indonesian factory.

  • @alexwood8555
    @alexwood8555 Рік тому

    I literally just got a Schecter 7 string last week and didn’t have any issues, I usually love them, but this is definitely not okay, id be exchanging it asap.

  • @ComicalSatania
    @ComicalSatania Рік тому

    Literally just bought a Yamaha trbx 604 from zzounds off of reverb for like 100 dollars off the other day and it should come tomorrow. Crazy that I see you mentioning them, hope that bass comes perfect because as a recently turned 18 year old highschool student I am not rich

  • @lewisderfuss7537
    @lewisderfuss7537 Рік тому

    I own that same guitar I got about 3 years ago. Mine came flawless and is my favorite guitar that’s not a Kiesel.

  • @psychological6707
    @psychological6707 Рік тому

    This is nuts. I just got this exact guitar model on reverb. And it absolutely will not stay in tune! Currently it’s with a guitar tech. We’ll see.

  • @Bassguitarist1985
    @Bassguitarist1985 Рік тому

    Spent over $2k on a Fender Ultra V. Same type of grounding/shielding issues. Nothing that couldn't be fixed but for the amount of money I was quite pissed off. I fixed those issues by shielding the cavity and now it's dead quiet but it seems many of these flagship high-end name brand guitars lack some of the very basic professional features that should make that instrument turnkey without the need to modify or repair.
    I've gotten better quality import instruments.

  • @Tcrumpen
    @Tcrumpen Рік тому

    That grounding issues sounds very similar to what Glenn Fricker expieranced with a Harley Benton explorer a few months ago, something to do with the paint they used for the bridge

    • @kevinr.3542
      @kevinr.3542 Рік тому

      Oh yeah that's right. Thick black paint messed with the ground. I forget how he fixed it.

  • @Leychen
    @Leychen Рік тому +1

    I have always played Explorer-Style guitars like LTD EX and Dean Z (among other guitar shapes), and yes they are super comfortable to play. Have been thinking about these Schecter but in this price range there shouldn't be any quality issues

  • @radfury23g32
    @radfury23g32 Рік тому

    I got a Schecter SLS Elite as well, most expensive guitar I own, and as I took it out of the box I noticed that the bridge pickup was pushing against the strings...so I leveled it out and started playing it a bit...minutes later I'm realizing it sounds horrible and notice again that the pickup is up against the strings. Essentially came to realize they had somehow screwed up the threads on the Fishman mounting bracket and the foam was just shoving the pickup up the screw. I can screw it down and it'll hold for about 10 minutes of playing but always ends up against the strings. Even sent it back to SW and they sent it back to me saying they didn't find anything wrong with it. Good times

  • @TimothyHuffGuitar
    @TimothyHuffGuitar Рік тому

    The most inexcusable thing about this guitar was the shim in the bridge bolt hole instead of properly repairing the oversized hole. If anything else it should have been fairly discounted and quality control should have made certain that it was grounded properly. It seems quality assurance was completely negligent on this guitar. It makes me wonder how many others left the factory in similar condition?

  • @Canadianwheelchairguitar
    @Canadianwheelchairguitar Рік тому

    I agree with your frustration when you get a guitar it should at least work properly. I could easily let a cosmetic blemish pass depending on the size & where it's located but it had better work when you buy it.

  • @pernielsen4935
    @pernielsen4935 Рік тому

    Finally someone who has the same opinion as me on the fishmans PU. I've struggled to find the right adjectives, but you nailed it in that description!
    great video, and too bad about the guitar.

  • @picpouille
    @picpouille Рік тому

    I bought a Kramer Pacer for the new year, it would not stay in tune more than 3 seconds. The tech at my store tried to fix it, he could not. So i asked for a replacement. Happily the replacement is almost perfect quality wise. Happy ending

  • @BrandonVoorhees
    @BrandonVoorhees Рік тому

    As a full-time tech, we have more issues than not with Fishman stuff. I have a guitar with a Modern in the bridge and no probs; I actually really like the pickup.

  • @XciteMike
    @XciteMike Рік тому +2

    I had similar issue with an SLS Elite out of the box. Grounding, and on top of it, the Fluence Modern in the neck was completely bricked. The vendor, who shall remain nameless but prides themselves on a multi-point inspection, got Fluence to send me a replacement. Still all very disappointing. And I'm with you on those pups in general. The guitar itself plays great, but ultimately diagnosing the issue and the frustration was not what I had been led to believe I could rely on.

  • @ronniewebster4365
    @ronniewebster4365 Рік тому

    I am with you. I love my Schecter guitars but I have had issues with their quality. I bought an apocalypse 7 string and it came strung with a .064" in both the E and B strings. Easy fix right? Not when the nut is ground to the .064" :/ I tried a .052 for the E string and all I got was buzz when playing the string open.

  • @BusyAir
    @BusyAir Рік тому

    That's awesome that fluence added coil splitting.

  • @breakdown7153
    @breakdown7153 Рік тому

    I recently purchased my first Schecter (Demon8) and the nut on it is low which causes a lot of buzzing on the 7/8 string on the 1/2 fret even when setup with a high action, relief, and fretwrap. I purchased it as B-stock with a finish issue, which it has one that you have to look for to see, so no worries there 👍But with as much as I saved buying Bstock paying a local luthier $50 to replace the nut at worst if not $20-30 to shim the one it has it's still a win🤷 Sad to see such a major issue like this on a $1k+ guitar. Wow!! I would have sent it back myself.

  • @Eric_01
    @Eric_01 Рік тому

    Lemons happen, I've experience that, too. BUT, it absolutely leaves a sour taste. I completely understand the mood that will put someone in.

  • @mikeyhodge6191
    @mikeyhodge6191 Рік тому

    I am cracking up at the pickups feeding back every time you speak 😂. For real though, hope you get this one replaced or repaired and can enjoy it properly one day.

  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE Рік тому

    I had some issues with a new factory Shecter too. You know your stuff btw. Re the bridge and pickups for your style and tuning. I've always wanted a Kenny Hickey sig but I think I'm better off just buying the same vintage Schecter he used back in the day.

  • @joelcprice
    @joelcprice Рік тому +1

    After watching the whole video, those guitars should have the post holes checked for appropriate size before they hit the pain shop. And if the whole is too big, the proper fix is to glue in a dowel, and re drill it. That guitar never should have left the wood shop with that issue. And I have NO idea how the fishman is microphonic since those pickups coils are printed on a circuit board.

    • @mentalish9417
      @mentalish9417 3 місяці тому

      When an active pickup is not grounded the strings grab all the background noise like an antenna

  • @MoreMeRecording
    @MoreMeRecording Рік тому +1

    Well based on a recent video from Foghorn Leghorn from SMG, its like Harley Benton made this guitar for Schecter.

  • @JoshBrown18
    @JoshBrown18 Рік тому

    similar issues with the Silver Mountain, I did a video on it a while back, Schecter is not the company it used to be.

  • @rynesherman9099
    @rynesherman9099 Рік тому

    Damn, that , looks sick. the flat finish looks so good for the explorer style.

  • @retroquest3579
    @retroquest3579 Рік тому

    Recently picked up a new Schecter Blue Reign and stripped the floyd saddle on the A string the very first day. Turns out they put a floyd special with zink saddles, and steel screws. This guitar was in the 4 digits and didn't come with a case either. Pretty disappointed that it didn't have steel parts on the floyd for this price. I just ordered a set of stainless saddles from amazon to fix it.

    • @MadAlhazred
      @MadAlhazred Рік тому

      Crazy that a guitar with a floyd rose special cost that much, especially when you can buy a gotoh ge1996 for under two hundred bucks.

  • @mikemello1313
    @mikemello1313 Рік тому +3

    Hell yeah brother im glad you put schecter guitars on blast. You are completely correct ! A guitar that costs that much shouldn't have any problems, especially when its stamped by quality control Schecter USA. YOU HAD EVERY RIGHT TO GO OFF !

  • @KelticKabukiGirl
    @KelticKabukiGirl Рік тому

    Mine was higher end and I think she got it from Amazon or Sweetwater, so maybe it wouldn't have gone through the same QC, I got a perfect one, but yeah, that sucks and shouldn't have happened. Those pick-ups should not be microphonic in any way either, I could tell it was ground right away, Harley Benton did the same thing by painting his bridge all black and the ground wouldn't contact so he had to sand ir

  • @southernpanda33
    @southernpanda33 Рік тому

    I have a Michael Kelly that came with a case and an Epiphone MKH in bone white. I’m generally surprised that they don’t include cases.

  • @OkayyyIGetIt
    @OkayyyIGetIt Рік тому

    Damn.. send it back bro!! That’s uncalled for!

  • @ramo2165
    @ramo2165 Рік тому

    I just bought the same guitar, but it is a C1. I am having all kinds of tuning issues. I was able to intonate the guitar, but my low E is always out when I play an E power chord. It also wants to fall out after about 10 min of playing. This is my first guitar with locking tuners. I can tune up my old 38 special budget Schecter faster, and it holds tune better than my new $1400 guitar...

  • @TenebrousReflection
    @TenebrousReflection Рік тому

    Please give a more in depth review on the Weber speakers you mentioned. Especially appreciated if the VHT gets some time on them!

  • @jav6665
    @jav6665 Рік тому

    I bought a Schecter E1 apocalypse about a month ago, and the ground wire to the bridge was sheared off. Such an awesome guitar but obviously there QC wasn’t up to par.

  • @Scotty_AV
    @Scotty_AV Рік тому

    My schecter diamond series left the factory with a non working tone knob, but I gotta admit I didn't realise until I sent it to my luthier for a setup.

  • @dennismudd2541
    @dennismudd2541 Рік тому

    Hello, I know you had issues with this one.. and know it's not a normal thing. I was looking at this guitar that I haven't been able to try.. and a prs mark holcomb. Funny thing I just seen a black evil twin on zzounds as a open box. Hoping that it was this guitar sent back... lol. Want to see what you think otherwise if it hadn't had the issues you had. Vs the prs. Thanks for any insight

  • @TarshishedCactus
    @TarshishedCactus Рік тому

    I have an SLS Evil Twin and love it. Sorry you had to go through so much bs.

  • @joshsmith7033
    @joshsmith7033 Рік тому

    If you think that's bad, you should check out how they're sending the solar guitars now. They're literally unplayable because of the neck and the frets.... I am two of them and they both have the same issues. Had to pay a lot of money to get fixed.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  Рік тому

      I bought a brand new solar 2 months ago with zero issues. sorry to hear about the bad luck

  • @CABALDRUMMER
    @CABALDRUMMER Рік тому

    Can't stop laughing with the whole hand gesture thing 🤣🤣🤣