Coachella: Hot or Flop?
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Coachella is not in the city of Coachella, it's in the city of Indio. I'm from Indio, and I wish you would have discussed the impact that Golden Voice has on the gentrification of my city due to Coachella. Indio and the eastern Coachella valley is an area mostly comprised of Mexican Immigrants who work the fields. Coachella Fest has been detrimental in the rising housing costs in the area and will soon become so expensive that it will kick out the people who have lived and worked here for centuries. It's such a shame that this is often left out of the conversation when people talk about the festival. I really loved your video and it's your channel so I understand that you discuss what you want, just wanted to share some insight from an Indio native :)
fellow coachella valley citizen here! this + the additional danger coachella posed this year. getting infected with covid could hospitalize residents, risk their financial security/housing, etc. most people here cannot work remotely; missing a week of work can seriously hurt families. i agree that more attention should be paid to coachella's full impact on our community!
I was just going to write that. The reality vs. how they portray Indio to be this hipster haven is crazy. Thanks for your post!
Let's not forget that the same farmworkers are the ones who clean up the mess the festival leaves and go right back to work the fields on the same day with probably little to no healthcare benefits in those long hours !!!
yessss all of this! it’s always always left out.
That’s happened to my city (it’s on an island that very popular for tourism). It’s made it impossible to find housing :(
I grew up in joshua tree and I remember how Coachella used to be back in its early days. All the hipster indie kids at my high school would attend. The music was the highlight, now it feels like an influencer event
there’s tons of italian influencers (i’m italian) who just go there and take pictures thinking they have this bomb ass outfits and probably don’t even know who’s performancing there. they get cowboy boots and crochet tops and fringes and think they look so fashionable I actually find that so pathetic now lol
Yup It’s gotten crazy expensive and way more PACKED! Last time I attended was in 2014 were I almost passed out in a crowd as everyone crammed in to watch Lana Del Rey lmao worst experience of my life
it IS an influencer festival
I’m british and I didn’t really know it wasn’t a influencer event?? If that makes sense?
I went weekend 2 and it didn’t really feel like an influencer event to me! If you think about it only a small amount of people are actually influencers and the festival has like 250,000 attendees so it’s literally impossible for every single person there to be an influencer. Just because the only pictures of it you see are from influencers doesn’t mean the only people going are influencers.
Calling kimono’s “weird” and “obscure” and then literally saying “making it my own” omg 🤦🏽♀️ and the girl saying we’re all to happy to be offended by their culture being treated like a costume omg it screams “I have never put myself in another persons shoes” and “I have no poc or even non American friends” all rolled into one
That was weird especially when she could just ask a kimono maker and ask them how to make it her own
There’s a woman where I live who is Japanese and sells kimonos amongst other Japanese style clothing and cute interesting objects. She doesn’t have a problem with people wearing kimonos clearly. Same with ceramics. Appreciating someone’s culture isn’t degrading it.
Actually native Japanese people love when foreigners use their clothes.
The only people being offended are Americans. It’s very patronizing for you people to tell others what to be offended about
@@Chrysobubulle That is exactly what happened with Katy Perry wearing a kimono in a concert, everyone was offended except the Japanese people
Chrysobubulle yeah because we should forget the asian american crowd!
As an old school music festival goer, it is sad that influencers kind of suck the spirit out of everything good.
I hate how flower fields are now crawling with them. You want to just enjoy the nature and beauty but there’s dumbasses doing dances or whatever everywhere you look. I’m close to Holland Michigan and I’m excited to see the tulips this spring, but I’m dreading the influencers.
I agree to an extent. Rather than fully blame the influencers, I look at the way the working world has been shaped by society and the normalization of the 5+ day 40 hr work week. Being an ~influencer~ is portrayed as a way to go out, travel, ‘live’ your life while still making enough money to survive/be comfortable. I wouldn’t necessarily call it living, but I think that’s one of the biggest appeals of it and why there’s so many influencers/people striving for that nowadays. It’s a way to do more than sit in an office or physically wear yourself out.
Trust me tho, those who destroy nature for their pics…. they’ll get what’s comin to them :,)
@@Flowerhag idk, most influencers were already rich to begin with, you could have a million TikTok followers and not make any money.... It's not how people are really making money.
Capitalism as a whole sucks the spirit out of everything tbh lol
@@kiwedinikwe1087 I agree. I try to listen to new music but I can't like anything new even tv or movies and I'm wondering, is it the quality of the art that has gone downhill, or is it just me turning into a boring old person who doesn't like new things? I'm 32 btw. The newest music I enjoy is Grimes...
I’m gonna be honest, I was so confused as to why everyone was talking about how 2010s celebrity coachella fashion was so good because no it wasn’t. 😂😂😂
!!!!!
It’s because it looked more care free and not people trying to upstage each otger
Agreed all that culture appropriation was a big yikes
it was iconic, thats not necessarily good lol
I loved the Coachella look in 2010 as well because of Vanessa hudgens the queen of Coachella
I think people who romanticized Coachella are finally going and it’s not living up to expectations
Agreed. There were a few years when it was cool - all the la cool kids went like the cobra snake and all those people but that was in like 2007
I would have loved to go around 2013 but now it's totally different plus almost no boho vibes anymore. I probably wouldn't like it that much
@@inner_smile
What are boho vibes??
@@DrawciaGleam02 Bohemian style and indie bands
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I am so glad that Mina aknowledged the Romani influence in the boho chic aesthetic. Many refuse to recognise that the aesthetic "borrows" elements from our traditionally nomadic culture. Her mentioning the name of our community is small, but it made me really happy💚❤️💙
I don't know where you live but where I do, there are a lot of Romani people and they don't dress Boho chic *at all* .
@@OzmaOfOzz Well of course they don't, they aren't supposed to. We have a traditional way of dressing which influenced the boho chic, this aesthetic is the one that took elements from our culture and not the other way around. Furthermore, not all Roma dress traditionally anymore because we do live in a modern world... in other words it is called 'traditional' for a reason, do you wear the same garments that your ancestors wore everyday?
And it isn't only about clothing, it's about the aesthetic as a whole. The boho chic borrowed from "free spirited" and "unconnventional" cultures... I'll let you do the math on this one.
@@bianca8960 nope, they don't dress modern either. Maybe few of them? The men usually have suits and a hat and women have these skirts that are unique looking and can't be bought in stores, I think they make them customised or something
The women also wear their hair in 2 braids and have fabric in their braids
But I wouldn't call it Boho chic in any way.
I just don't see any similarities.
If I see a movie with romani people they indeed have that Boho chic look and look absolutely amazing, but not where I live, nope, no similarity.
@@OzmaOfOzz There are many Roma communities in the world, some dress just like you said, but for example me and my friends have never worn traditional skirts for a simple day out (yes, they are usually made as a custom item). But i repeat: we do not dress boho chic, the aesthetic borrowed elements from our culture. BoHo is made out of the term Bohemian which referred to a group of ethnic wanderers from France and Homeless which refers to the nomadic lifestyle.
Furthermore, the term boho refers to someone who doesn't conform to society... our people travelled for a long time and some still do to this day, i think it is quite clear how that makes a community not fit in.
I think you are also misunderstanding, if you look at the clothing on it's own it makes sense that you can't tell clearly the Romany influence. Boho has many influences. Boho is a mixture of many indigenous and nomadic cultures, but the most noticeble in the aesthetic as a whole is the Romany influence.
To make it more simple for you... have you seen Alladin? There are many cultures blended into one but you understand the general vibe that they were trying to emulate. The same thing goes for the whole Boho situation.
@@bianca8960 yeah, got it, and thanks for not being overly condescending with your explanations.
Coachella is to festivals what Victora's secret is to fashion.
Tea
This makes so much sense
This so so accurate wtf
This needs more likes because it’s true
It’s so accurate I even took a screenshot
For me Coachella was bound to “die” the moment it became an influencer/Instagram photo opportunity. It’s not about the music anymore. The presentation from the headliners is also really lacking this year (which I expected after Beyoncé set the bar extremely high)
Beyoncé is an exception, most artists just don't have the money to put on a show like hers.
I think they had a good line up, but I also listen to "obscure" artists. But Coachella was originally meant for the indie rock and grunge enjoyers to begin with. I'm glad they still support smaller indie artists alongside them performing acts like Harry Styles.
This year I "learned" that this was an influencer festival
Which I didn’t think it was because it isn’t
I am not interested in it but am still confused
@@claudiabcarvalho they don't have the money and they also don't have the talent too if we're been honest
@@claudiabcarvalho
Money isn't the only thing preventing people from performing like Beyoncé
As as European, me (and my surroundings for that matter) see Coachella as a festival to celebrate capitalism at its purest form. That's really it. It's a capitalism festival, not really a music festival. And my husband is a musician, I've been to many music festivals and concerts over our 12 years together. Coachella is just... something else.
100000%
Could you explain more? I would love to understand that perspective more. Ive never thought of it that way.. although you do have to have a certain amount of wealth to even attend, so I could certainly see it. I've also never been to Coachella so idk lol
@@twealth2983 I don't know if the OP would agree with my views, but as another European myself, there are so many things that together contribute to this ultra capitalistic mindset of Coachella.
Firstly, I feel that people who go to Coachella go there thinking "how does this benefit ME" in terms of money, influence (again: money) etc. instead of going there to have a good time with your friends.
Then there's the outfits. Each year new looks come into style you need to follow and buy into these trends (this is ofc true to our normal lives as well), but you were supposed to go there and enjoy the music, not to see other people's clothes... right?
And then there's the crazy amount of media coverage, I haven't seen that personally done about any other festival. This creates more profits for the festival and for the media as well.
All the VIP lounges scream of "look what money can buy!" vibes. It comes off as "I can enjoy my time at the festival more because H&M is giving us all the clothes to wear and we get to see all these other rich people."
And speaking of H&M, there are so many companies involved in Coachella. It's so commercialized. Also something I have never seen in other festivals.
I don't know if these help to answer your question. But overall, it's like everyone tries to find a way to benefit from the festival. A festival which is supposed to be for music.
‘Coachella is a capitalism festival’ perfect encapsulation. Nothing more capitalist than a potato chip brand showing up and saying they’re going to give you a ‘new’ experience by feeding you chips that were cooked ‘less than 24 hours ago.’ Guess they aren’t made in vats like regular chips? This is hell.
yes exactly!!
As a European there’s something about the treatment and air of Coachella that seems so off for me. Like you never see British influencers talk about Glastonbury the same way, sure one is in a desert the other in a muddy field but there are also other fundamental differences that are both obvious and hard to put into words
As an American, I agree. I’ve never been to Coachella but the other US festivals I’ve been to do not have the weird vibe of Coachella. Even other popular music festivals are still mostly about the music, in my experience
Kate Moss in Glastonbury was a vibe tho
@@wawaicedcoffee yes!! Everybody talking about coachella as if there's no other music festival on the US or the world. Like there's music festival and other categorie is Coachella
I don't think it's unreasonable to think that different festivals have different vibes and purposes. Some are raves, some have art installations built in, some include tech conferences, some are just music. Glastonbury is completely different from EDC which is different from Austin City Limits which is different from Primavera Sound and Afro Nation. They're treated differently because they are different.
@@ellax325 I agree but what I’m saying is Glastonbury and Coachella are probably the closest equivalents internationally and yet still so vastly different in vibes. They could have identical lineups and yet they would be treated completely differently. Not bad I just find it interesting
BRUH girlie did not just call a Kimono "a weird obscure thing she can make her own" 🙃 The insanity of it all bro
I was never super into Coachella fashion but I will say I feel like it’s lacking more and more each year. The magic seems to fade a little bit more every season. While it wasn’t good fashion, there was something about it but I feel like that something special is gone. (Except for the cultural appropriation, that has never and will never be fashion to me) Maybe that just has something to with me getting older and not being as impressed by influencer culture. But what do I know, I’ve never actually been to Coachella and probably never will.
It only ever follows trends , everyone looked like a euphoria clone. Theres nothing unique or fun anymore
I think you might of meant cultural appropriation, whereas, cultural appreciation is fine
the same goes for the met gala tbh. i think a lot of it has to do with influencer culture; coachella and the met gala both used to feel sort of exclusive (at least to me) and i remember always being excited to see the outfits that celebrities were wearing to both the met gala and coachella, but over the years less and less have gone to both and more and more influencers have,, so it's just lost a lot of it's spark
@@thatvirtualgirl1 yah definitely meant appropriation. Auto corrects tricks again.
coachella is the definition of “flavourless”
if you want to go to a festival, small independant music festivals are a much better option than coachella. they may not have harry styles, but what they do have is organizers & staff who actually do it for the music cos they believe in music's ability to bring ppl together & foster community.
Could you list some?
but i want harry styles 😩 (jk thats a really good point, and its actually really fun hearing new music from smaller artists)
@@_eIIa_ i think going to harry's own concerts will be much more fulfilling in that case, rather than being stuck in a crowd with the energy of anesthetized crickets. not to mention "normal" tickets for his concerts dont cost as much as coachella's.
@@joon2103 yes definitely haha, i was joking 😅 yeah if i was going to go to coachella to see a specific artist, i would just buy tickets for their individual shows. i get the appeal of seeing a ton of different big artists in a short period of time, but idk if its worth the massive crowds and the cost (not to mention the covid lol)
Coachella had a p good lineup for the indie music enthusiasts this year. I wanted to go, but COVID is scary and it is too crowded.
I grew up in SoCal and I was 16 in 2010, the people I hung out with always had a negative perception of Coachella. I didn’t hear good things about it until I was living in OC around 2016 and the people who had a positive view were wealthy teenagers 🤷🏻♀️
That last line, on point 👌
exactly lived here all my life never could afford to go, by the time I'm an adult now with money it's even more crazy expensive. I just don't have a interest in the event itself other than the music
as an OC native, EDC was better lmao
It is so sad too, because the city of Coachella and Indio (where the event was actually held) are such poor areas of California. My grandparents worked in the fields of Indio and Coachella for 10 years before they retired. I remember I had a family member pass away around the time of Coachella and my family had a tough time finding a hotel to stay at for the funeral, bc everything was booked up. (We just all packed up my aunts house in the end, or drove 2-3 hours back home).
Well, if you knew people who went to one in 1999 or 2000…it would be a much different and better vibe.
I had a great time this year - no influencer passes, just a regular GA band. I witnessed 20+ amazing artists perform. I was there for the music and that’s exactly what I got - no regrets here.
Those prices you list are also the “list price.” So tickets were much, much, muuuuuuch more expensive. I lived in LA from 2013-2018 and lmaooo tickets were $750-1000 for the normal ticket if you didn’t get it in the first ten minute of tickets dropping. VIP tickets ended up being in the multiple thousands, I usually saw $2500-3250.
I went to USC so students often went and we trying to buy/sell tickets the week before.
Christ...
Yeah that's gotta suck tbh.
WOW! That makes a lot more sense
Holy shit, that's like a whole month's rent!
i would never pay 3000 for a festival wtf
Yeah I feel like the prices have been stupid high since the early 10s anyway, and have just gotten worse. Is it even worth it anymore for a regular person???…
Hi Mina :) love your videos, I actually played coachella this year and some takes aways for me as someone who played and attended (my first time) Is there was a wide range of really exciting artists I haven’t had the chance to see anywhere else, ie: stadium headliners and very high production. Compared to other big fests I’ve played the backstage has absolutely no privacy - they allow anyone who vaguely knows the artists or is affiliated in some way, I ran into only one other person backstage that actually was playing the fest over the two weekends I was there. The first weekend was heavily influencer based and a lot more glamorous whereas weekend two felt like a very different vibe and fan base. I noticed alot of people in attendance weren’t down to rock out super hard to any artists - headliners included, compared to other fests. I had an amazing time but it was incredibly expensive to eat and for transport, no one wore masks or seemed to care about Covid including staff, it was very complicated to get to the fest - even for people playing, and desert lung is so real lol. However, if you’re there for the music I think it’s worth it - I pretty much watched music all day and left feeling very satisfied and inspired. I also want to mention that weekend one, despite playing, I felt a bit out of place - it felt like Instagram in real life haha little akward forsure
omg beach bunny
@@lex2824 not me also screaming in the comment section seeing Beach Bunny.
I love you beach bunny 💖
Omg it's you I like your music
I love your music and it makes my heart so happy to know that you love Mina and her videos just as much as I do!
I think a lot of these issues also apply to Comic Con. Haven’t been since 2013 but I stopped because of the increase in ticket pricing and the ridiculous lines for events. Also told off a couple of people who inappropriately touched cosplayers as they were posing for photos.
It’s true. I stopped going to anime conventions years ago, for different reasons, but I noticed the same kind of culture as Coachella. Top cosplay influencers getting the same treatment as social media influencers at Coachella, steep prices for tickets, etc.
@@glamdawling That is heart-breaking.
I’ve pretty consistently attended nycc since 2015 and I’ve only ever done cosplay groups with friends, the artists alley, and the show floor. And over time, I’ve started spending more and more time only in the artists alley in order to like. Support the artists that are making the aforementioned comics. I’ve never considered even Trying for any of the panels for specific shows or signing ever in my years attending because the lines are absolutely insane and largely a waste of time, and in the case of signings kinda absurdly expensive.
@@glamdawling I’d argue that with cosplayers it’s a little different cause the biggest cosplayers are usually the ones making what they’re wearing, so there’s a level of skill involved vs just Having access to the top fashions and a conventionally attractive face
@@artisticaperture846 i do agree that there is at least a reason for their "VIP" status. They're being invited for their artistry.
it's a shame how much the festival has become a magnet for marketing deals and people uninterested in the music because even though the draw for a lot of people are the headliners (for obvious reasons, especially with ticket prices that high), there are a some smaller and/or international artists on the setlist as well. Coachella might be the ONLY chance a person living in the US has to see that artist and they're basically locked out of it by ticket prices and how quickly those tickets sell to people uninterested in the music altogether. I've been a fan of Kyary Paymu Pamyu since high school and as far as I can tell, Coachella is the only festival she consistently performs at in the US. At this point, it would probably be easier for me to fly to Japan to see one of her shows than to go see her at the festival, and that makes me sad.
You know what's funny?!
I keep seeing people calling it "free music festival". It's so far divorced from that at this point.
Yes I've been to 3 festivals and that was because I'm in Australia and the bands I wanted to see (The Cure, Placebo, Rammstein and Nine Inch Nails) were only doing touring as part of a festival. I actually prefer to see a band at their own concert and inside a building. At festivals you can't get close to the stage unless you go in the mosh pit and get crushed. And the sound doesn't seem as good when the stage is outside.
You'd do better flying and making it a vacation ngl
That's literally the only reason I was sad I couldn't attend: my queen Kyary was there and she had to cancel her LA performance in 2020 so I still haven't been able to watch her perform live T^T
"Geriatric era" finally a word for my life 🙌
Here in Brazil, Lollapalooza is our Coachella 🥴 it just feels like an influencer event, majority of the people I see only go to create content.
I refuse to pay a month’s rent for a day pass, specially when I’m only interested in seeing like…4 bands, and they’re usually spread throughout the other festival dates 🤡
At least the crowd is alive in lollapalooza but coachella crowd is dead af.
Lollapalooza sounds so much more fun than Coachella and has a lot of variation.
Well, still better than rock in rio...
But the best brazilian festival this year was the rock the mountain, a smaller festival with only brazilian artists, ir was freaaaaky
back in the day I was dyinggg to go to Lolla :(
I've been to lollapalooza in Chicago 9 times and if you go with good friends and are there to see the music it's definitely the best 4 days of the year! it's my favorite event to go to but i'm also older than a lot of the influencers and tik tokers so I could just have a different perspective.
one thing i love about UK festivals, we don’t give a shit about ‘influencers’ we just wanna get pissed in a field and listen to music !
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep, and let's face it, in terms of fashion there's only so many ways you can dress up a pair of wellies and a pack a mac.
This😂👏💯
US festivals are mostly that too. I think Coachella has just transformed into something completely different. I've been going to festivals since I was 14 and getting drunk and having fun has always been the goal. Of course I live in the upper south and there's really not much of an influencer culture here.
To me as someone who only sees Coachella on the internet, it looks like a once alternative grounds for people who don't fit into popular mainstream media,it's a place of leisure and a sense of community, but it turned into a ground of promotion and business, a lot of people get into coachella because of sponsors and brand deals, it's not so much about the music and fun anymore
I think that's so weird because you're judging Coachella off of influencers, people who don't even see the shows. tens of thousands of people do actually go to Coachella to dance and have fun. You don't see them because they aren't on their phone, they're LIVING. If I were you I would go and try it for myself and then make a judgement.
@@maverickbull1909 exactly what it looks like from my pov, im looking at it from how influencers post coachella
@@maverickbull1909 Yeah I think that’s their point. The representation mostly now comes from influencers who may not even be there for the music.
There are people in the background of those pictures, dressed in jeans and t shirt just enjoying music.
Coachella is for Instagram influencers. It's a photo op, it's not an event for anyone else. Normal people have no interest in it at all.
from my understanding, actually, normal people that go just for the music and to hang with friends end up having a much better time.
I think this is unfortunately very accurate.
As far as music festivals go, it's more like this.
All the SoCal youth goes during weekend 2 so this is true for weekend 1
as a normal person with less than 500 IG followers who went last weekend this is very untrue.
@@GwendolynnBY are they really ‘normal people’ if they’re spending THAT much on a ticket? no one i know could do that!
As someone from Europe, I’ve definitely seen a change this year in how Coachella has been negatively perceived online - I just put it down due to society views changing post Covid and how people are sick of influencers ‘influencing’ in large and outlandish ways, but your research on how Coachella started, slowly changed and commercialised is really insightful! Great content as always!
So excited for this topic, i think that Coachella is really seen via rosy glasses in Germany like this beautiful dreamy fairy festival that isn't as dirty and smelly as Rock am Ring or Wacken or Hurricane or Deichbrand. But is it that different?
I think if you go to a festival to Germany for 100 Euro per card you know what you get 😅🙈 beer, mud and anarchy.
And I think the people who go to festivals love it.
Heyyy 👋 I’m Canadian living in Germany and I cant believe how much people admire cochella!!! (My friends even hosted their own cochella at home! 🤠)
It’s weird because it feels like it has a more positive impression in Germany than in Canada…?
As a fellow German I cannot really confirm this to be honest...
I think it depends on in which kind of bubble you currently are in...
None of my friends listen to pop music, thus all of them feel really indifferent towards Coachella. And even on social media I get the feeling that most people dislike Coachelle bc of it's reputation as an Influencer festival, ppl only attend to post on social media.
On the other hand, I've never ever heard or even read a single negative opinion or review about Rock am Ring, Hurricane Festival or Wacken: People like these festivals BECAUSE they are so muddy and rusty !
I think weather makes a huge difference. Coachella is in a desert with dry heat, and most people need to worry about are sandstorms and heatwaves. You smell sweat if you're in huge mosh pits, but for the most part the stage areas are really large. Most people also avoid camping at Coachella as much as possible and would rather stay at motels/hotels/AirBnBs near the valley. Much like any festival, it can still get messy and people get things stolen and transportation can get really irritating. It's just super glamorized.
Dont Europe have even bigger music festivals like Donauinselfest and others? They sound much more interesting than Coachella for me
I'm German an none of my friends even know what Coachella is. But they are not into American influences at all and they can't tell you the difference between Kendall and Kylie Jenner so this doesn't matter to them.
Kpop Stans are literally treating Coachella like Grammys. I just hope Superbowl doesn't turn into a mess like Coachella.
You absolutely alright they fight about who performed first at Coachella like they life depends on
i left twitter for 5 days until dumbasses stopped fighting. we know who performed first, just chiiiilll
lol true
@@suranada yup! it truly adds to my own dislike of the stans in k-pop as a k-pop lover myself 💀
@@JusticeForChuuu same
i miss when festivals gave a shit about punk, grunge, indie etc music bcs watching all these festivals slowly become mainstream pop temples is sad to see :// it’s just like reading and leeds here in the UK which used to be the home of heavy music and now we have a weird mix bag that just doesn’t work
True but ultimately, pop is what more people are going to pay to see (sadly) Acl is starting to include more indie artists, which is cool but as far as punk and grunge goes there’s really none. At this point you just gotta go to individual concerts (which is still fun)
not necessarily, there are many popular alternative bands
They actually had a good lineup for indie artists this year.
i don’t think there’s anything wrong with it going to pop personally
it is a crime that paramore was never invited thoufh
I think what made Coachella not as interesting for a lot of people was because they were expecting more from the music festival? Idk, if you're not going to a music festival for the music then I don't see the point in the average person spending so exorbitantly for 2 weekends.
Some go for the fashion
As a indigenous person I really appreciate the things you said about culture appropriation.
Boho chic (and hippie) fashion border on culture appropriation. I’m not saying it IS so don’t came at me. But in indigenous communities we literally have a running joke about those types of fashion that’s been running since the 60’s. Trust I could go off but you get the point.
And the Headdress festival craze is genuinely upsetting and so disrespectful. The type of headdresses they wear would never been worn by women and even most men. Those headdresses are given to Chief’s only. Those men don’t just get it handed to them they are knowledge keepers who take care of our communities so to see non indigenous girls wearing them it genuinely makes me upset and sad.
Then to get into wearing skimpy clothes in those headdresses is a whole other can of worms. Indigenous women are so sexualized and it comes with dire consequences. Our women are at a such high rate of sexual violence, 6 out of 10 indigenous women will experience sexual assault.
it was really hard for me to grow up in a era where I would innocently look up indigenous women on any and every search engine and social media because I craved to see other people like me but always ended up seeing pictures of half naked women in headdresses.
Thankfully many indigenous influencers have risen to fame in recent years, being able to educate people but there is still a long way to go.
Mina, your content never disappoints
I remember thinking in the late 2000s/2010s how the Vanessa Hudgens era had completely ruined the festival- making it all about celebrities being seen and wearing dumb outfits. Today its just influencers doing the exact same thing. The festival isn't getting worse, it's our society getting worse.
Aren't we just tired of influencers, trends, and turning everything into a cool thing for business reasons and everything is flavourless
There are always trends. Trends doesn't mean just fashion. There is no such thing as no trend.
as the “emo kid” at school, I used to laugh at all the Coachella bs, I mean I still do. but then I remember that I went to Warped Tour where I was surround by a bunch of pedophiles, so I’m rlly not any better lol
Hahah
for me, Beyoncé simultaneously brought back the magic of Coachella and killed it in one breath. I hadn’t cared about it for a while until she came on and then I went back to not caring right after her. she can’t be topped in my eyes
Coachella has become a hot bed of elitism… the opposite of everything the original creators envisioned
painfully so
I am glad I went before it got stupid. :)
The glorification of Coachella was always off putting to me. Also I feel I subconsciously was really bitter about the imagery being sold to me “a skinny white woman’s paradise to be free to love, enjoy music, and drink and culturally appropriate”. It never felt like a space I wanted to be in. Even now it still isn’t a place I desire to be even with the minor changes in image.
This is so true omg
I can also say , as a black person , Coachella never seemed for ME . I’d rather go to rolling loud .
as a south asian , if someone invited me to coachella i would still be excited but thats just me
I feel like coachella is my idea of personal hell honestly. When I was a teen I wanted to go so badly I would look at flights online as if I could save my pocket money up to fly to the other side of the world. Now you couldn't pay me to go. It's literally in the middle of the desert, there's so many people there, they're all photo ready somehow in 1000 degree heat, my self esteem couldn't handle it. Not to mention all the product placement and branding. To me it just seems like a huge exclusive celebrity party.
Also I'm of the opinion that what most people can realistically expect of the event is going to be way below expectations. We're inundated with content of pretty girls in picturesque air bnbs, doing their hair and make up, ubering to the events, getting freebies, going to parties. I've been to festivals in the UK where I've camped and the reality of the situation is a tent in a busy field, no electric, shared toilets, no showers, hiking back and forth, dragging all your stuff with you. Anything above basic necessity comes at a premium and I have no reason to believe that Coachella would be any different in this sense, just with dryer weather.
Umm... a music festival is what you make it. If you're there to be a poser, maybe it won't be fun. If you're there because you like the musical acts then you'll have fun listening to those musical acts. There's no dress code. You can wear what you want and do what you want. It's not 1000 degrees but it's a desert so... slap some sunscreen on, throw on a hat, and put some shades on. This is America. There's branding everywhere and it's a major music festival, so yes, you will be bumping up against tens of thousands of people. If you don't like large crowds, then no festival will be for you. Stay inside.
" We're inundated with content of pretty girls in picturesque air bnbs, doing their hair and make up, ubering to the events, getting freebies, going to parties."
That line reminded me of that infamous fyre festival video ad....
I’ve created a new rule for myself: if influencers and people who are “there to be seen” are present, the event becomes instantly uncool to me and I have no desire to go. Coachella is much the same.
I do really miss the hipster/indie vibes the music festival used to have. It got big in 2012 because of Tumblr, honestly, when celebrities started going and everyone would reblog their looks. Before then, it was just a place for all us hipsters could go and feel a sense of community. I'm from a small town, my music taste was really "weird" according to the people around me, but all my favorite bands went to Coachella. It's just not that anymore though... Not to mention the indie-rock/grunge sound just isn't as big as it used to be, which sucks, but the spirit of Coachella has been lost. It used to be a way to relive Woodstock, it was all about the music, and now it's not. I have no desire to go anymore, but I do feel sad that I missed out on what Coachella used to be. Their lineups were 10/10.
This reminded me of Reading and Leeds fest in the uk. Grew up going in the 2010s, by the end of the decade it’s overpacked and just exhausting. Same vibe
Y’all are so smug.
@@poppyfield4463 100%
@@Landprince ❤️❤️😂
Pooping in a porta-potty while holding your breath, getting shitfaced on luke warm vodka, seeing your fave band and passning out in a tent. That's a festival.
yeeesss
porta potty 💀
I feel like Coachella was always anticipated like the Met gala looks every year in the 2010s but since the pandemic started in 2020 it lost its old appeal as a spectacle for us to watch.
That seems to be happening with a lot of media staples (Oscars, for example).
@@DrawciaGleam02 true, even with this years Met Gala
I cannot comprehend that someone can attend Coachella 4 times and not see a single performance.
It's sad Coachella Valley had all those cases. It's a small community with few medical resources already for locals... I also wish people would stop thinking we are post-COVID. Where I am, cases and deaths are higher than any day during lockdown...
The stories about the influencers trying to get into celebrity festival parties' , and the nature of their exclusivity weirdly reminds me of how during the Regency era, people, particularly with new money would vie to get into exclusive gentlemen's clubs, how they'd make attempts to rub elbows with the old money crowd, and even the whole nature of wearing one outfit and then never again reminds me of how women were expected to have a new dress for every occasion of the day/every day during the season. Funny how some things haven't changed.
Beyoncé really set the bar, and what she did was smart, she showed all the typically rich white girls black culture to their face after they paid a hefty price and all the non goers who obviously don’t have the means got to watch home for free. I wasn’t ever really checking for Coachella like that until she performed, and after she performed no one has really mimicked that success or level of performance.
When i started seeing content about Coachella a few weeks ago i was kind of confused because in my mind, Coachella was very tied to the 2010s, like the boho fashion, the celebrity culture and the cultural appropriation. I didn't think these things would transition well into 2022 standarts, so i would'nt have thought that Coachella would be such a big deal again after the panemic (grated i'm not american and the whole cult around Coachella was always kind of weird to me)
Coachella has been a joke for a LOOONG time. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful a venue exists where I got to see the likes of Bauhaus, Radiohead, Daft Punk & Gorillaz, but the attendees have always been obnoxious trash. It's like "rave culture" for baby weekend warriors. Everyone thinks they're somehow unique, when it's just a sea of the same boring people doing the same tired things that have been done better by prior generations.
Gatekeeping "rave culture" and how to destroy the same values that you're trying to defend, good job! Wasn't rave culture the epitome of inclusivity and openness?
@@Claudia-ej4wh I appreciate your take on this 🤍
@@Claudia-ej4wh yea I was going to say…pretty sure rave culture is often a good thing? Like…if you see someone maybe who’s had a little too much substances, you get them water and find their friends; the little stuff like that?
Idk I’m part of the dnb community and we look after our own. Even one artist I spoke to was saying how he was late to his set cause he couldn’t leave a girl who was k-holing and had to find her mates. I don’t think rave culture means what you think it means 😂
@@Claudia-ej4wh "Rave Culture" was in quotes for a reason, because there's nothing inclusive about Coachella. Everyone there acts like it's Burning Man, but it's just one long H&M ad. It's pretentious hell.
As someone who was an actual member of the rave scene in the mid to late 90's, there's absolutely no way to gatekeep legit Rave Culture. You didn't pay ridiculous amounts of money to go or be seen. You certainly didn't act like it was more than what it was.
But, go on pretending anyway 😂
@@NextToToddliness Oh okay i thought you meant the entirety of the rave culture, not just Coachella in particular. Sorry for the misunderstanding
The clothes were so boring, some were okay but 90% of the outfits were predictable and kind of boring.
it was so bland and ugly this year i can’t
My only Coachella-related regret is not getting to see Beyonce headline it live in 2018.
as a brit, at festivals (even if they bring out a shit singer) we scream, sing and surf. everyone’s drunk and we stay in tents, hot yet cold and rain going through our tents. even though it’s so uncomfortable it’s the experience. it’s sad that the coachella crowds are so dead and people only go for the “aesthetic”
Imagine going to Coachella and not watching any of the acts. THATS INSANE! If I were an influencer and I’d go both weekends, one weekend prioritize work, one weekend prioritize enjoying the festival.
as a high school student in the area, it is extremely worrying to see my young classmates mingling with inebriated adults (who leave after) + hard substances. coachella is overcrowded with people and drugs. it also reveals the socioeconomic student hierarchy in our schools. looking at the folks who attend, coachella is a long ways away from its indie rock origins. i would say most attendees are there for hype or bragging rights. it is ridiculously easy to spot who is here for coachella, lol.
local businesses typically look forward to this time of year. not so much this year for businesses still wary of covid-19... we have a high percentage of elderly people, along with anti-vaxxers. :,)
I'm so greatful for Coachella 2022 cause my ultimate kpop girlgroup "2ne1" reunited there as the last act for the 88rising stage. I'm just happy that many asian artist got to perform this year.
I totally agree, one of my favourite Japanese pop artists Kyary Pamyu Pamyu actually got to perform as well
on the topic of fashion trends, i would love to hear your thoughts on the subversive basics trend!
and as someone who crochets garments as a hobby, crochet seems like another rising/ returning trend in fashion that’s definitely worth a look into. on the instagram crochet community, there’s been rather rampant accusations of plagiarism floating around 1) amongst small creators and 2) of big companies (shein & cider as the usual perps) stealing from small pattern designers. + it would also be interesting to hear your thoughts on monetising a hobby
omg i agree! i crochet/have a small account myself and it's interesting seeing how quick some people are to make plagiarism accusations. i completely get accusing big companies like shein or cider bc they don't hide their ripping off of the design at all and consistently steal from creators. but sometimes, if you use the same general silhouette as another creator, who probably was inspired by another creator, they'll still accuse you of stealing if you don't credit them lmao. like omg im so sorry we both freehanded the same generically trendy hdc sweater. i literally saw someone say that if you were inspired AT ALL by someone else's work, even if you changed basically everything about it, you still need to credit them. thankfully i've never been accused, but nothing is 100% original, so it's weird when some designers act like they invented color-blocking or crochet halter tops. sorry for the long blurb, but this stuff annoys me so i completely get what you mean lol
(also i still credit when i use a pattern or am directly inspired of course lol)
Hi Mina! I’m a new subscriber and let me just I’m so impressed by your content. As someone who has become more interested in fashion history and the sustainability movement, your channel has given me so much knowledge to look at life in a different perspective, but for the better. Keep up the awesome content and can’t wait for what you have to post next!
thank you so much for talking about the ecological impact the festival has on the Coachella Valley and even the topic of the Salton Sea!!! As a cv native, it is so good to hear and see someone use their platform to talk about these problems that are not discussed enough inside and especially outside of the coachella valley
The editing of this video was super fun and I really enjoyed all the movement and sound effects
The amount of research you did is just unbelievable. thank you for this informative content. WOW
I attended Coachella twice during beychella and Arichella I loved it and wanted to go so bad both years that I manifested my own free tickets twice. This year I truly had no desire to go for many reasons. the set list was so underwhelming. I love harry but he is not established enough to be a headliner especially when Doja was not a headliner. I believe headliners should have at the least 3-4 albums Under their belt. Not only was the set list underwhelming but it was repetitive. Billy eilish was a second runner up headliner during arichella and The Weeknd was a headliner for beychella and so many other artists were also already on previous set list and for me that’s a big no no for coachella. The setlist planned for 2020 would have been amazing so this year fell shy of what we could have had. This year there was also mass amounts of theft and pick pocketing and I mean full groups of 15 getting there shit stolen simultaneously . as far as Covid goes Coachella has always been a place to wear masks because of the sand and dust but because mask mandates just recently stopped people are so eager to not wear them that they forgot the fact that masks are a regular part of festival culture and now boom you mix Covid with the already shitty Coachella dust flu and you are fucked up. I grew up with my dad going to Coachella so it was such A big deal for me to want to go when I got older. He use to always play us video from his trips as well as the Coachella dvd that my sister a toddler became so infatuated by that she learned how to use a DVD player just so she could play the dvd and dance.
Agreed on the Harry styles part I believe Coachella only made him headliner bc his new album is about to drop soon and clearly wanted to ride on the publicity given that his upcoming third album is already projected to have one of the biggest first week album sales of the year and its lead single is currently the #1 hit song in both the US and UK
@@Kevin-rg3yc I think this would have worked great if he had already dropped that album and it blew up but doing it right before doesn’t really give that same energy.
Baychella, Ari hella? No wonder no other year will ever measure up 🤣
" I manifested my own free tickets twice"...I really hope you're using "manifested" ironically, dude. You make yourself sound utterly brainwashed by TikTok witches lmao
@@otterpoppin lmao exactly my thoughts
The only performers i was interested in this year were 2ne1 since it was a historic moment that they reunited and Aespa bcs i love them
100% same
Coachella has become the influencers MET gala lol
Coachella is a SCAM! Don't get me wrong I loved seeing my favorite artist butttt, you aren't shit if you don't have higher tier wristbands! They couldn't care less about you if you had a GA band! Which is crazy considering how much money they make of GA! I feel like the festival caters more to the rich and famous. I think they rely too much on their clout and influence. I literally spent HOURS trying to get someone to help me with my busted car handle that THEY broke! They kept giving me the runaround hoping I'd eventually get tired of it and go enjoy the festival instead! I will literally never go back unless I have money to blow or I get in for free. Guys coachella is NOT worth it.
what is a GA band?
@@marietjevanderloo6442 General Admission. So at coachella there are different tiers. GA, VIP, Guest pass, and Artist pass. GA is the cheapest and most accessible pass into the event. The higher the tier, the more expensive and exclusive it gets.
@@Moonlight-ks9cp Thanks
The amount of research you put into every one of your video is astounding. Here for a million!!! Yes Mina !!!
Can we normalize people in their late 20’s and early 30’s (or really anyone of any age) going to music festivals? At 28 I finally have the funds for tickets/flights/hotels and enough PTO to go to music festivals. I hate it when people act like I’m too old to want to go see my favorite artists at a big show. Music is for everyone!
I noticed this happening with a lot of things. Everything is “the younger the better” but where are we suppose to get the funds/have the time?? Anyways I agree with you it’s a shame
@@Itsalyssaaa13 Younger people have it easier in this regard though. They have fewer responsibilities, so they have the time. And probably have less bills to pay, so they have the funds and more disposable income especially if they're still being supported by their parents regarding their everyday housing, medical, utilities, and transportation costs. And celebs and influencers are also more often the children of the middle and upper classes and the rich, so this is likely the case. So of course young people have the money and funds to throw away on such events while the average adult can't even take one sick day off from work on a good day and have too many bills and debts to justify spending upwards $3,000 dollars on a ticket just to go to a festival that's more about being seen there and seeing famous people there than enjoying the event and music.
@@queenmoreau2098 there are tons of young ppl who don’t have the support of their parents or the funds and has just as much responsibility as adults with jobs and those were the young ppl I was talking about. Young ppl don’t have a lot of time as they likely have to work and or go to college
It’s totally fine, and you certainly aren’t the only adults there.
I been going to festivals since I was 26. This is my first Coachella and I’m 34. Im taking my sister. All I got to say is we are there for the music and like every festival I leave my phone at the car and catch the pics on my Polaroid! Plus I can’t wait to cry in some strangers arms during Frank Ocean and losing my s*** to Black Pink!
Mina, would you ever feel comfortable doing a makeup tutorial? I’ve been watching you for a while now and every time you upload I get so excited to see your look :-)) I don’t see many other people doing their makeup like you!! It’s so beautiful 💖
the nice thing about the 2010s coachella fashion was that it was fun and expressive while still being comfortable enough to actually enjoy a concert, not just take a picture and leave
This reminded me of how I feel about Reading & Leeds Fest in the UK. It’s going a similar way to Coachella. They also spent the last few years or it increasing attendee size but keeping the grounds the same size. Music went from rock/punk/alternative to pop being prioritised by the end of the 2010s
The Boho Chic 2010’s look (imo) was definitely not better. The regular attendees looked a lot cooler and more fashionable than the celebs this year.
I loved the fashion in the 2010s and love the boho
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@@Missmagazinebura of course you did. Back then the only people who cared enough to say stuff about the obvious appropriation were brown people. Now with all the voices we can see all the bull that was going on and how down right sus people forgiving it were.
@@Missmagazinebura I think boho is beautiful. I think it's beautiful when it's done by the people who the style came from and when the actual people profit. I have this beautiful embroidered little purse I invested that I bought online that sources from small business owners from Mexico. There's nothing wrong with the patterns and feelings these clothes give you as long as you get them from the source. Or in my opinion if you're going to buy them from Walmart at least have the decency to recognize that it was clearly stolen.
I love watching your videos while crocheting! :)
What I love about your videos is how you analyze topics considering so many different aspects and perspectives, thank you for creating such engaging content
okay but why is no one talking about how mina absolutely nailed 2010s problematic "boho chic" with the hilarious rugrats reference
I think most celebs wore casual outfits cos that's the normal for a music festival, usually. Most influencers don't go on red carpets and don't get to share their more impressive outfits and that's why they wear it there.
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I always get so happy when I see a new video, Mina
so close to 1 million!! great work Mina!
Coachella was definitely envy-inducing, even up here in Canada too! Great video, as always
Beautifully made video of great value! Love your work Mina, you rock girl!
Coachella has basically become a personality trait for iNfLuEnCErS
And for the fashion to see what everyone is wearing
I love the lighting, makeup, and backdrop in this one Mina 🤩
Everything i've ever heard about coachella seems very artificial to me. Very much about looking like you have fun and the idea of the best festival, without it actually being fun and amazing. Everything that makes a festival fun to me is missing
As a non-USArian I can't see myself giving two sh*ts about Coachella. It's always looked like a cash-grab for rich people. I'm glad other people see that as well.
I don't like large events where drinking & rowdiness is expected. I don't feel safe around that kind of thing. I have been to concerts but there usually like maybe 500 to like 1000 people: my numbers are way off lol. Conventions are bigger but more manageable cause there is constant movement, open space and people are in panels learning stuff. I don't get how people can handle something like Cochella. Massive crowds, no real escape if something happens, drunk people in mass etc. Not to mention the pricing of everything if you don't live in the location.
Mina, your mind never ceases to amaze me! You always post videos I had no idea I was even interested in. The way you tied fashion industry knowledge into this was SO cool. 11/10.
You're always so well researched and I love enjoying your content!!
I remember in early days of high school, it seemed like a celebrity music event. TBH Beychella was the only year people around me actually talked about it (although maybe that's because I live on the East Coast?) and maybe its just the fact that every outdoor music event I've been to has kinda sucked but I never even thought about wanting to go to Coachella. every year since then it seems like people are just catching on to what I already knew: music festivals mean standing around outside getting sweaty, being near a bunch of strangers who are probably drunk or high or both, paying ridiculous amounts of money for food and beverages, and investing a lot of money for a low return on fun
you're almost on a million subs! congrats ♡
YES BC WHEN I TELL U I WAS *WAITING* FOR THE MINA LE COMMENTARY ON COACHELLA 2022!!!!! I LOVE UR CONTENT SO MUCH I CLICK ON EVERY VIDEO U UPLOAD THE MOMENT IT SHOWS UP ON MY RECS, NO MATTER THE TOPIC, UR VIDEOS HAVE ACCOMPANIED ME THRU SO MANY MEALS, thank u so much for everything u do, u will be my fave video essayist forever & always xxxxx
I love that on your videos you do research and always put us in context on the things you're talking, and have insights about it. I find out interesting things that maybe I wouldn't research myself.
My friend went on a two week holiday to the USA this year and that included going to Coachella. When I asked her what the highlight of the trip was when she got back, she listed a few things but Coachella wasn't one of them. She goes to a lot of music festivals so I feel like it might not have lived up to her expectations based on previous experience. The hype is so real that I can imagine it might not be all it's cracked up to be.
Celebs can wear whatever they want now and it becomes a micro trend even if theirs nothing special about it
Watching this while waiting for my hair dye to process, I love your content Mina
i love all your videos and how you explain everything !!! the beginning with the history was so well done
As someone who has gone the last 5 consecutive years, this year definitely felt different. The logistics were off and it was 1000x more commercialized. People still go for the music - they’re just not posting about it.
I can only imagine the commercialization getting worse in the future. Nevertheless, it’s still an event people will look forward to and will always be a staple event in pop culture.
Boho is gonna be hard to cancel... in Texas, that's a big influence for southern style. Turquoise jewelry, crocheted tops, paisley designs, dreamcatcher jewelry, and sun and moon themed designs allong with plenty of nature designs is ingrained in the style culture here. It's not appropriation or racist, in fact its influenced from mexican and native american culture here, which alot of us are part native or hispanic, which has just been blended. It's in our cowboy hats and boot designs too. I wouldn't go there for the whole of boho. That's the whole style of Southern Boutique Fashion.
Why are we cancelling boho now?
Ahh just in time for my dinner! Thank you so much for uploading💘
I love how in- depth you went to do research and I absolutely loved your video. Also I love the way you do your makeup!