Thanks for tuning in, hopefully this appeals to my fellow bike geeks out there. Let me know if there's anything I missed or wasn't clear about. I'm also keen to hear your experiences if they are the same or defferent🤙
Great info video dude. I love my older Carbon Instinct but I'm starting to think this is the next Rocky M for me. I think the new 2024 has quite a few suspension changes and looks the biz.
i got trp breaks which are really got but i didn't like reach on lever so I got freedom coast trp levers now they feel 10 times better. Its worth trying if you don't like lever on them.
Tons of great info here, and nice looking build! I'm currently debating between an altitude c50 and an Ibis Riomo V2s, and looking for a little help. I ride a mix of shuttle and pedal up trails in Canada here and wondering how the two compare. I know the Rocky probably descends better, but how do they compare when pedaling up hill? Cheers,
Very similar/reasons for build/long CS/Wolf Tooth headset (which is a delightful bit of kit. Agreed about 1/3 of the price of a King and like for like quality). My build below (but had swapped the Hope's out for Hayes Dominion A4s, OneUp V3 dropper lever for less friction etc). I too have cut my OneUp 35mm rise bar to 770mm (from 780) as the Ergon GE1's add +5mm each side vs. majority of other grips. Things I would change are similar. 1) Slightly steeper seat tube (though the effective STA is fine). 2) Don't need 9 (as there are a few redundant ones). Really only Pos 2, 3, 5, 6 and 9 make most sense as 1 reduces the travel vs. 2 and 3 at slackest and is barely any more progressive than 2. 4 has less travel than 5 and 6 and is the same progression as 3. 7 and 8 are both similarly progressive as 6 and pos 9 fills that need for those who want to ride a higher spring rate and less progression for more all-mountain/trail feel). I wished HTA could have come -0.5degree slacker out of the box. 3) Don't mind it being moderately slack in Neutral as the Ride-9 doesn't impact the most important dimension which is the front center. Would like to see Rocky employ something like what Canyon has done on the Strive with a + or - 5mm in each and therefore front center). (The WT -1 angleset increases the FC by 13mm and incidentally reduces the CS from 448 to 444mm). 4) Also agree wish there was a "Penalty Box" storage in this frame or alternatively at least a 1-bolt accessory mount like Canyon has on their Strive (right under the top of the top tube would have been perfect. www.vitalmtb.com/community/lennskii,57494/setup,45983
I’d seen your bike check when I was looking at how people were running their bikes, very nice rig. Hayes we’re the other option I considered for brakes but I got the TRP cheap off a friend
@@MTBMcPhee Had the TRQ Quadiems back in the day. Loved the brake but I run the levers close to the bar and the TRP's lever throw increase too much when winding in the reach (have medium sized hands). If I had biggest hands would have jumped on their new brakes for sure. The Hope Tech 4 V4s or Dominions seemed most similar to the TRPs but better suited to smaller mitts (and like you, got the Dominions on a deal so went with them!).
@@lenolenoleno what rate coil are you running and how does that compare to the setup guide for your weight? I'm really struggling with the coil setup in long CS.
It depends on the day. I love trying new things or testing different settings on the local dh track, but sometimes it’s nice just to go for a ride so I usually have a base setting I can use for those days. This year I’ve started to keep a spreadsheet with the different settings I’ve tried and notes on the feeling which I’ve found to be useful to refer back to.
It's a lot more stable than the ripmo especially in the long CS setting so generally better for going fast and hitting hard, while still being light and pedalling quite well. Neither bike would be my first choice for park riding, but for 1-2 trips per year they'll get the job done.
I find my Sight running a X2 just isn't as poppy as I would like and was used to on my previous bike. Do you think this is because it is a less progressive frame?
What a beautiful rig Craig, I’ve ALWAYS been a Rocky fan but only owned the Instinct. The choice of parts on your ride is pure porn. Thanks for sharing.
Hmm, not until now… I don’t think our race tracks would need the extra travel and slackness to be honest, but I have heard that the 38 is especially nice at 180mm. Might try it one day!
@@MTBMcPhee Yeah that's what I've heard as well. I'm considering the altitude right now (and Strive). I'm not a fan of the head angle but thought over forking would rake it out a bit and raise the bb/stack. Plus the added travel might help save my arms on the longer stages. Just a thought right now though. It's a great looking bike, congrats!
Thanks for tuning in, hopefully this appeals to my fellow bike geeks out there. Let me know if there's anything I missed or wasn't clear about. I'm also keen to hear your experiences if they are the same or defferent🤙
Nate is awesome! Bike looks great!
Nate is The Man!
Great info video dude. I love my older Carbon Instinct but I'm starting to think this is the next Rocky M for me. I think the new 2024 has quite a few suspension changes and looks the biz.
Beautiful build mate I've been waiting for this vid and you didn't disappoint 👏 All the best at round 5 🤙
Thank you 🙏
Great vid mate, it is a solid bike and evidently working well for you.
i got trp breaks which are really got but i didn't like reach on lever so I got freedom coast trp levers now they feel 10 times better. Its worth trying if you don't like lever on them.
Good tip, thanks! I’ve got mine fully wound in which is comfortable but it would be nice to get them even closer to the bars
Thanks for the review! I'm 6'2" and I agree that a steeper 78 deg seat tube angle is nice when pedaling uphill. Have you tried a Nukeproof Mega 290?
No I’ve never tried a mega
Tons of great info here, and nice looking build! I'm currently debating between an altitude c50 and an Ibis Riomo V2s, and looking for a little help.
I ride a mix of shuttle and pedal up trails in Canada here and wondering how the two compare. I know the Rocky probably descends better, but how do they compare when pedaling up hill?
Cheers,
I never tried the v2 but the Ripmo is much better going up. The Rocky is fairly active compared to DW/VPP bikes.
Awesome, thanks for the reply! I think I'm going to suffer a little more on the uphill for the better downhill performance from the Rocky.
Thanks for the interesting video 👍
I'm same height as you,I did the same with my handle bars
Very similar/reasons for build/long CS/Wolf Tooth headset (which is a delightful bit of kit. Agreed about 1/3 of the price of a King and like for like quality). My build below (but had swapped the Hope's out for Hayes Dominion A4s, OneUp V3 dropper lever for less friction etc). I too have cut my OneUp 35mm rise bar to 770mm (from 780) as the Ergon GE1's add +5mm each side vs. majority of other grips.
Things I would change are similar.
1) Slightly steeper seat tube (though the effective STA is fine).
2) Don't need 9 (as there are a few redundant ones). Really only Pos 2, 3, 5, 6 and 9 make most sense as 1 reduces the travel vs. 2 and 3 at slackest and is barely any more progressive than 2. 4 has less travel than 5 and 6 and is the same progression as 3. 7 and 8 are both similarly progressive as 6 and pos 9 fills that need for those who want to ride a higher spring rate and less progression for more all-mountain/trail feel). I wished HTA could have come -0.5degree slacker out of the box.
3) Don't mind it being moderately slack in Neutral as the Ride-9 doesn't impact the most important dimension which is the front center. Would like to see Rocky employ something like what Canyon has done on the Strive with a + or - 5mm in each and therefore front center). (The WT -1 angleset increases the FC by 13mm and incidentally reduces the CS from 448 to 444mm).
4) Also agree wish there was a "Penalty Box" storage in this frame or alternatively at least a 1-bolt accessory mount like Canyon has on their Strive (right under the top of the top tube would have been perfect.
www.vitalmtb.com/community/lennskii,57494/setup,45983
I’d seen your bike check when I was looking at how people were running their bikes, very nice rig. Hayes we’re the other option I considered for brakes but I got the TRP cheap off a friend
@@MTBMcPhee Had the TRQ Quadiems back in the day. Loved the brake but I run the levers close to the bar and the TRP's lever throw increase too much when winding in the reach (have medium sized hands). If I had biggest hands would have jumped on their new brakes for sure.
The Hope Tech 4 V4s or Dominions seemed most similar to the TRPs but better suited to smaller mitts (and like you, got the Dominions on a deal so went with them!).
@@lenolenoleno what rate coil are you running and how does that compare to the setup guide for your weight? I'm really struggling with the coil setup in long CS.
Very good, thanks
Yew..sick bike! Do you change your sus settings or set and forget?
It depends on the day. I love trying new things or testing different settings on the local dh track, but sometimes it’s nice just to go for a ride so I usually have a base setting I can use for those days.
This year I’ve started to keep a spreadsheet with the different settings I’ve tried and notes on the feeling which I’ve found to be useful to refer back to.
@@MTBMcPhee that's some proper sick data. 🤘 Nxt nerd out vid
Nice edit mate
Thanks mate!
How do you like the Altitude compared to the Ripmo, specifically for park/dh/enduro riding?
It's a lot more stable than the ripmo especially in the long CS setting so generally better for going fast and hitting hard, while still being light and pedalling quite well. Neither bike would be my first choice for park riding, but for 1-2 trips per year they'll get the job done.
Can you adjust your headset on the fly or does it have to be removed to change it to the -1 or +1 position?
No it’s pressed in, but the chip at the rear can change the head angle by about 2 degrees if I ever wanted to steepen it up
I had no idea you guys swap left and right / front rear brakes. That would mess me up bad.
Its known as “moto style” but I have no idea why our bikes are like that 😂
I find my Sight running a X2 just isn't as poppy as I would like and was used to on my previous bike. Do you think this is because it is a less progressive frame?
I think you could tune the x2 to be poppy. Have you tried adding volume spacers, or adding more low speed compression to your shock?
What a beautiful rig Craig, I’ve ALWAYS been a Rocky fan but only owned the Instinct.
The choice of parts on your ride is pure porn.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers mate, the build came together over time but it’s certainly approaching dentist spec 😂
@@MTBMcPhee haha Dentist Spec, Love it.
Good vid Craig , Now its time for a DH Bike ;)
Haha thanks mate. Can’t see that happening, I’m lusting after short travel bikes at the moment 😂💸
9 positions? Did you bother testing them all, or are you happy knowing you’re probably in the wrong one?
I adjust them mid trail to ensure everyone in my riding group shares the burden
have you considered overforking the bike with a 180mm fork?
Hmm, not until now… I don’t think our race tracks would need the extra travel and slackness to be honest, but I have heard that the 38 is especially nice at 180mm. Might try it one day!
@@MTBMcPhee Yeah that's what I've heard as well. I'm considering the altitude right now (and Strive). I'm not a fan of the head angle but thought over forking would rake it out a bit and raise the bb/stack. Plus the added travel might help save my arms on the longer stages. Just a thought right now though. It's a great looking bike, congrats!
@@colinsutton7944 I’d be tempted to do it to raise the stack a bit too
Good vid
Just a regular rider!
BTW how light is the bike? How much lighter is it than your other bikes (that range)?