Do Windows apps really work on Linux?
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Can you REALLY run Windows apps on Linux with Bottles?
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I never had any luck running MS Office with Bottles or WINE.
Not even a older MS Office version?
Try Crossover by codeweavers
Try the Linux version. Libre Office etc.
I think Office 2013 was OK in Wine but personally I'd rather use native Linux office productivity software; LibreOffice, OnlyOffice, WPS Office and then you can use web-based Google Docs and even Microsoft Office 365. For simple stuff which is mostly what I do these days I don't even bother with an office suite and just use Abiword for word processing and Gnumeric for spreadsheets. They are much lighter, start up really fast and have all the features and compatibility that I want.
I have been successful with "Playonlinux" but with only Office 2007 and Office 2016
I would like to see a video about running windows within linux.
Why? You can just run windows using virtual machine just fine.
I was planning on getting the newest system and running windows on top of KVM so that windows could have direct access to the hardware. I would then use Linux firewall based system to filter out anything I want to and from windows. Plus with KVM you can take snapshots of the system for backup purposes just in case windows fails or gets virus.
Yes, please give us a video about how to set up Windows in Linux. I would especially love to know if there's a way to do it for free and to install it without any of the Windows spyware, or to at least minimize it
Windows in Linux? VirtualBox.
@@webdbase ok, but how do you get a free copy of Windows?
@@webdbase Too slow - is there a better VM?
I've been thinking of using Windows7, An OS before Microsoft started loosing the plot, however I wonder about been able to install a new enough version of 'Office' to be usable.
I tried under VirtualBox (No office yet) however the performance tradeoff was hideous.
@@Joseph-xt2qg legally? you can't.
But you can always look up activation codes online if you're happy to run the (very very very small) risk of MS suing you.
I have found that if the Windows program needs the .NET framework, MS has made it impossible to install the .NET the app needs. On the otherhand, I have installed many Win programs on Linux Mint, using just Wine. I played with Bottles, and found it a pain. Linux Mint's message board has an install procedure for Wine and it worked great for me.
net framework thing huh......nice info
I have actually install .NET several times in Lutris for some SkyrimSE mods, so it doable. You may need to run one of the lutris versions of proton-ge to make it work.
I use Linux Mint as my Daily Driver. It does 90% of what I need it to do (Email, Web Browsing, Simple Docs, Picture Editing), and I'm not monitored and tracked by Microsoft. For my Work Needs, I have my Windows Laptop. Linux can be buggy, and isn't for everyone, especially people who rely heavily on Windows Apps.
I installed Linux Mint recently and was pleased with it, as a lifelong MSFT shareholder and user. But for grandma I might, post October 2025, actually pay MSFT or some TP to extend Windows 10 support, since she won't like the new look and feel of Linux Mint, even though it's very intuitive.
Twister OS is as close as Windows 10 look and feel
@@raylopez99 Do you use Thunderbird for email? Been on Linux for about a decade. Will never go back to Microsoft.
@@raylopez99 Zorin OS has several interface "looks" one or two of which are very Windows like. Have a look in a VM to see how they work.
On the other hand, my 67 year old brother had a rotten time trying to use Windows 10 and 11. I've switched him over to Linux Mint (Cinnamon edition) and he's having no trouble with it plus I can easily administer it remotely if I need to using SSH. You can change backgrounds and themes to give it a more Windows like look if you think that'd help.
@@dingokidneys I'm using Cinnamon Mint and it's OK. Not as many "degrees of freedom" out of the box as Windows however meaning there's often "just one way" to do things. For example. you cannot easily view inside a Zip file like in Windows but have to extract it. Anyway the reason you 67 yo brother likes Linux might be because he's not used to Windows. On the other hand, grandma is, and will find it hard to switch to Linux. Bye.
Please show how to set up Virtual environment on Linux so I can run windows 10. I have a number or apps that do not require the internet so that should help. I can download stand alone updates for them. Should the VD be on a different hard drive? I have 3 laptops and a desk top that cannot be upgraded to 11. Eventually I have to buy another box for 11.
@@woodturner1954 look into Virtual Box
There are lots of videos showing how to set up VMs on Linux. I'd recommend using VirtualBox if you haven't run VMs before. Also make sure that you put the virtual disks attached to your VMs on solid state drives. The VM will slow down disk access a bit though there are ways to minimise or obviate this with more sophisticated setups. You don't actually need a spare disk to store the virtual disks if you have sufficient spare space on your primary drive. The virtualisation software can automatically manage the size of the virtual disks so they take up minimum space.
I'd suggest that you just start creating and playing with VMs in VirtualBox to learn the concepts and basic management of VMs.
As for Win11, my hardware won't run Win11 as the processor is not supported and it has no TPM but I have a Win11 VM running as VirtualBox emulates all the necessary hardware.
@@woodturner1954 there are ea lot of tutorials on yt on how to do that
Yes please to a virtual environment video. Thanks for this one, useful to know.
Yes
Yes
If you switch to Linux and trying to use windows only apps on it, you are doing it wrong.
Especially them trying to install and run Steam for Windows in Bottles.
@@Kedvespatikus I don't think there is any distro which does not have steam as a native package 😀
I would like to see that virtual Windows environment on Linux as well!
Well I agree, it is not just a install your windows app and run it on Linux.
But why did you use the wine version of Steam and not the native Linux Steam.
Gaming on Linux especially on Steam is much easier when you use the native version of Steam.
I also use the native Steam version for Linux and it works great. I can play games that are coming out this year even if they are marked not compatible.
because these kinds of people who try it out, just try to install their windows versions instead of the linux version. its just a wrong mindset to start with.
@TVPInterpolation not really. Some people have work apps that can't be replaced by Linux alternatives
@@LironSegev i specifically mean in the way how steam got downloaded. instead of going through the normal software store, the first instinct was to download it and run it via bottles(wine).
that some apps can't be replaced makes sense.
@@TVPInterpolation got you
This is why I'm still using Windows. Well, I'm using a custom version of Windows. It has worked fine for me, and I haven't encountered more problems than with the stock Windows.
@9:39 i really agree with this.
Linux Mint newb here. YES! Please show us how to do Win10 in Linux!
I tried Wine and did not like it because not only did the Windows program not work, but it would not fully uninstall and left a lot of junk behind. My solution is to install Windows in a virtual machine in Virtual Box. This way, you are actually running the program in Windows. The program in question was Adobe Photoshop Elements. No issues, because you are actually running Windows within Linux. I have grown accustomed to Krita so I really don't need to access the VM much anymore. Linux is Linux and Windows is Windows. Best to use the software as it is intended.
Love this community! ❤
What's a solid but not to expensive security suite for linux?
"What's a solid but not to expensive security suite for linux?" Keeping your system up to date. Doesn't cost anything.
Ilimux use to be safe but not any more. Ive been reading that Linux is increasingly more and more under attack and is a larger target due to users thinking they are safe. I would say security software is crucial now days.
@@l0I0I0I0 Did you know? The only OS that "needs" such software is Windows?
Apple? no, ChromeOS? no, Linux? no.
Great video Liron. My only issue with Linux Mint is that I cannot use my Canon MP780 Printer or my Canon 5200 flatbed scanner. Seemingly Brother products are the only ones that come with drivers for Linux operating systems. Would Bottles allow me to use the Windows drivers for Canon in Linux Mint? Thank you for all your videos. They are very helpful. I direct my friends and family to your UA-cam channel because you are the best at tech. Cheers from Australia.
Great question!
YES! I want to see a vid on running windows on linux SAFELY for newbs! You convinced me to switch to linux but I'm having issues like linux usb won't recognize a raid partitian? Ty! Your awesome!
This Bottl thing looks simpler than trying to use WINE.
The only Windows programme that was "indispensable" to me was Microsoft Access. I took less than an hour to convert my Access files into something that worked under LibreOffice Base. It was actually a fun adventure to make the conversion which turned out to be very successful. The process was as close to playing a game as I ever get. 🤣🤣
This allowed me to throw out Windows entirely.
I'm not a gamer, so switching over to Linux all those years ago was not much of a challenge.
If I kept using Windows, I'm not certain if I would have been vulnerable to this week's CrowdStrike debacle, but I really feel for people who were impacted by this.
With all the malice out there on the internet, I just know MY time to scream and cry in my tiny Linux bubble is just around the corner... The best of luck to you. Aloha.
Over the years Wine was pushed to run windows apps on Linux but I never had much success. Some apps would sort of run but with some features not working, which was frustrating.
I installed a test app under Wine (a Nixie tube clock) ran fine until two Linux updates later it was dead. So kind of glad I hadn't wholeheartedly moved over to using Microsoft Office on Wine as I'd be now dead in the water...... I need something I can trust.
Greetings Liron.
I admire your expertise in cybersecurity.
I have two questions hopefully you can answer for me.
#1 Is it vital to reboot your android mobile once an app update is downloaded?
#2 Does having the mobile on the " POWER SAVING " option affect the efficiency of an anti-virus and anti-malware program?
Ty for your anticipated response.
A fan.
Mike Jaludi
#1 no, atleast not necessarily.
#2 no, although the best anti-virus is just not installing random apps. i personally see no reason for extra AV apps on android.
I would LOVE to know how to run Win10 in Linux. Especially in Mint and/or Zorin. Thanks.
Try a VM, like VirtualBox.
Or even android apps but with out Google since what I read an heard about Google as well just something to think about
thanks for you guides on Linux 🙏
Nowadays , many software companies were forced to use subscription web.based apps. Checkbook no longer sell application, but ratter subscription to use web-based app. It does not matter anymore what OS you have got in your system
'forced to', No, they are just trying to wring extra $$$ out of the poor customer, the rot started with Microsoft 360 junk.
I really WANT to like Linux Mint, but at my age (in my 60s), I am struggling with the OS. Everything you do in Linux you have to know what to do with software folders with odd extensions and how to try to open them. (Not accomplishing much on that end.) I know nothing about how to use the terminal or why you have to always put something in it to get software. Is there a simple video, etc.... to show total novices how to get the basics down? TIA!
yes i would.... i have win.11 on my laptop, but i have zorin on my desk top i would like to see very much how to run win. on a linux os like zorin. please and thank you.
Thank you for doing my work for me.
I run 4 Windows apps under wine and one under the wine32 prefix created with winetricks. OpenSuse KDE and Solus KDE do this the best, automatically installing wine-mono and wine-gecko, and creating start menu launchers when I double click on the 64bit-app.exe. In the Ubuntu versions this is a lot harder to get right. Solus even gets the temp file limit for a win95/NT installation right. With all others I have to run regedit and edit the path to a smaller partition on a USB stick (for example).
But with 32bit apps I have to run the setup.exe from inside wine - select wine32 - run explorer.exe - navigate to the setup.exe and double click.
Thumbed up and subscribed..I'm brand new to Linux mint would love a windows 10 in mint tutorial please as there are a few must have apps and games I would like to bring with me to mint
You need Zorin - it comes pre-loaded with Steam for gaming and Wine, which allows most Windows apps and games to run. It also comes with games! As a teacher I've downloaded the Education edition but Core has everything for most users.
I wish I could get Garmin Express to run in a bottle on Linux. It just plays dead.
Zorin 17 (Education - with heaps of great apps and programs) comes pre-loaded with Wine - I wouldn't bother with Bottles. Zorin 17 Core will be suitable for the vast majority., although there is a Professional, paid version too. Office Libre is compatible with MS Office and does everything you need it to. Its compatibility makes MS Office suite redundant. I think Zorin is even more "Windows-like" than Mint Cinnamon, and I use both. Zorin is a very familiar environment for Windows users and you actually have to search for the Terminal, if you want to use it, because the apps are all easy to find and install in the Software Store. Everything is much more user-friendly and simple to use... not at all scary.
did you do a video about the black out IT error blue screen yesterday ?
Yep, I checked on the three essential programs I need, Bottles couldn't handle any of them. Vegas Pro.. there is no replacement for it. Tested, rated Grbg for success running them.
Yeah, make a video running Windows 10 in Linux... I bet editing videos inside an emulator though won't be tenable but it's worth a shot.
I'm running Linux Mint in Windows 10 right now using... the free version of VMWare Workstation... because unlike with HyperV... you get working sound.
What I was waiting for and hoping you would demonstrate how to install or run inside bottles was Microsoft Office.
It doesn't work.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful in any capacity, but I'm pretty sure if anyone in any capacity was going to install steam, they would have installed it at the software center level, which would give them leaps and bounds greater compatibility than the method in which you showed in this video, as you showed the Windows version of steam working on Linux In spite of their being, a perfectly functional AND In definitely more capable, Linux-native application available via the store. On Linux Mint, how you install it is you go with the Steam installer, which will install Steam and all of its dependencies for you. If you just go with Steam alone, it won't install the Steam devices package which is necessary for some controllers/XR devices on Linux.
It would be cool to run some iOS apps on Linux has any one thought about this one yet ?
I liked seeing that the library page of Steam works on Linux Mint with Bottles or WineHQ (I can't remember which). I hope this is a solution to keep playing Rocksmith 2014 if other solutions fail.
HULU and Netflix apps might be installable on an Android emulator, but whether DRM would work is another question.
I am getting emulators from emulator-zone to work on Linux and currently trying to get games like The Sims Complete Collection and Oni Garuda Linux is hella fast compared to Windows 10 I would use their Cinnamon version if you want a SIMILAR Windows 10 layout.
HI, I like using Linux, it actually runs better. But the problem I have is that I use Quicken and it isn't supported. That's why I have a dual boot system with Windows 11 for Quicken and everything else is Zorin.
VMware workstation is now free for personal use, should be best zero hassle solution
No one said that it would be a complete alternative to Windows and run all Windows programs, so what is the advantage of it being a Linux system? Rather, what they said is that it runs some Windows applications and that it does not work with large applications, so it did not come up with something unknown. Everyone who uses Linux knows this.
@Liron Segev what do you think about Pop!_Os by System76 and what do you think about their Linux computers?
Its because the .Net Framework is missing however Wine just got permission and help from Microsoft for an open source Implementation of the .Net Framework which means in the future Wine will get 100x better
Wait fr?? theres 2 programs i use but they require .net its the only reason i never swapped to linux
Doesn't a virtual machine runing Windows inside of Linux deffeat the pourpose if you are trying to save drive space?
I've only used Bottles to try to run EA Windows games using the EA launcher. Haven't yet gotten it to work right.
I am more interested in running Android apps on Linux. Can you talk about that?
can you set up that windows virtual machine with gpu access? cause if you wanna run video editing stuff, running it in a vm without that won't bring you much joy.
Win10 suddenly dropped support or various dll's on my Probook G1. It started two weeks ago. The 2025 Win10 closure of support is looming, and Win11 is outclassed for my 2013 gaming PC. This is it for Microsoft. I bought WinXP and have been using my license ever since.
My guy clicked on a sponsored link for Quickbooks smh. Never click sponsored links people!
You don't think I checked the links before filming my guy?
@@LironSegev Just saying you shouldn't click on sponsored links ever. Some sponsored links, not all of them, are very well made to look like the real website and will get you to download some kind of virus.
@@InterpolatedGaming agreed 👍
Yes please, I’d like to see how to run windows in Linux. I haven’t switched yet because I’m not that tech savvy and I can’t lose my windows programs that I need.
I heard you can run Affinity in bottles?
I have a superfast usb with Winn11 pro on the go, with the machine having 16GB RAM. It is pretty fast and responsive, having its own MS defender. I'll keep Linux and Windows separated. The booting takes just a few seconds, under a mi ute overall (haven't timed it but it is fast).
Again you gotta be making these videos for me. I got Mint up and running. It's been a great experience so far
I always worry about the license on the software. I wonder when MS might pressure their vendors to include a restriction thst the user are only allowed to run their application under a validly licensed version of Windows.
Netlix? :P
Luckily there's native versions of Steam for Linux, no need for using Wine
Seems like most of these companies are going to subscription based and getting away from stand alone programs.
I've been struggling for a week to get Antares autotune to work on fl studio 21 through wine running Linux mint . Anyone know how plz tell me
I still have several windows only apps (more than 8) that I use often. So, I probably will create a Win10 VM on Proxmox and spin that up when I need to run them.
Office 2013 and 2016 works through wine😉
Love Linux, but this is definitely a major issue for new users.
Linux needs a full featured version, that is built to convert users.
you mean a distro, right
or just use windows as the main OS and if privacy is your concern you have Chris titus tools and Windows debloat YES i dosent completely stop the spyware but it does minimize it and lets face it your never really private your smartphones for example you still have to use them for work, friends, family Degoogeling will basically break it if you use android. im not saying to give up im saying be rational about it for example i still use facebook but only for the market place and remain anonymous also i cannot compromise some of te software i use for a open source alternative
Yes!!! Please create a video on how to setup a windows VM on Linux. And I would like to see the other way around as well, how to create a Linux vm in Windows, and how do I get my Linux VM to access my HD? That is where I keep getting stuck. I need a way for my Linux VM to access the files on my HD.
VirtualBox offers Shared Folders which allow you to move files between the host and guest system. You need the Guest Additions running in the guest system to use this but installing GA is a menu option. You can also use networking to move files around. Just create a network share on the host or the guest then connect to it from the other.
thank you, thank you, thank you!!! trying to Install my CAD-software on MX-Linux later today! Mine is: "ActCAD" which is a GREAT professional CAD, & super-affordable, but...SADLY...only for MS! Ughhh... How about another vid showing if/how that software can be madeLinux-able, even if via VM?!! Go ahead, and I'll just wait here :-) ohhh...me, too..."I am NOT a gamer"!!
If your CAD software requires direct use of the graphics card you may have problems running it both under Wine/Bottles and in a VM. It doesn't hurt to try but it might require some tweaks. E.g. in a VirtualBox VM I would try enabling 3D acceleration and you will need Guest Additions and a fully activated Windows install to get full-screen hi-res functionality.
It is possible with some setups to actually give a VM full access to a graphics card, if you have two; e.g. built in graphics plus another GPU. But that's a tricky setup.
It might actually work better under Wine/Bottles provided you are not put off by having to do some hunting for the necessary tweaks.
Sesetengah program sahaja.
Regarding Steam... It has a Linux version. Don't install the Windows version of an application if a Linux version exists.
Convenient
Why would you want to pollute Linux with winblowz?
quickbooks reminds me of sbf lol.
Thanks for this Liron. I am a total newbie to linux and at the mo am settled on zorin and for the most it does what I need it to do. However, I do like to use real player and it would seem that running that in w10 virtual machine might be my best option so yes please. I would be pleased it you would do a short vid on that. THANKYOU.
Have you tried VLC as a media player? It runs on both Windows and Linux and will play virtually any media, either local or via streaming. It has playlists and other management features.
@@dingokidneys Thanyou mate. I am playing around with it at the moment. But,I cannot seem to get it to capture of you tube properly. But, as I said I am totally new to this and at 73Yrs. old my brain ain't as agile as it used to be. I will persevere.
I found Bottles to be a huge painful process I rather use Lutris but this was a few months ago maybe they fixed it
I'm an avatar trying to escape the matrix before the great reset, press ctrl, alt, delete to continue.
Pressing any key will delete all your files. Continue? (Y/N)
Segev, show me howto run windows in my ubuntu system.
If you are a Windows power user, then stick with Windows. For everyone else Linux is an excellent system.
Personally, I find Lutris is much better. Both are useful, but for me, Lutris
first go into what? software? ?//
Why run MS windows apps in Linux though ?! Microsoft isn’t doing to well we all have to be careful with Microsoft I’m likeing Linux an Debian stuff like that now I never did understand why would a person run Microsoft windows in Linux just woundering !
Some people need apps like QuickBooks and company apps that only work on Windows. Some people use hardware peripherals that require drivers that are only on Windows. So while they want to switch over, they can't because those apps aren't available in Linux and they can't use alternatives.
Windows programmes are hit or miss, hoping for a dev to come along and make a real working app that can work all windows apps.. Yeah hoping.. Linux would be top then.
Virgual environment on Linux, please.
I've had success running a vm for Windows 11 using VXD container daemon.
cheers from the usa
Love Bottles
Installing Linux on Windows Virtual Box is a more viable option.
What Linux are you using?
Linux mint
I bought a new laptop for Windows 11, To be fair my last one was purchased in 2012. Linux is not really an option as the vast majority want Windows compatibility, Also the learning curve is steep. Apple is not an option either as you need new hardware and any hardware changes or repairs are a nightmare, And still no Windows compatibility.
Learning curve is not as bad these days as you may think, especially for the most common computing tasks. These days, some Windows games actually run better on Linux with Proton/Lutris.
would you be able to run the Steam Client and a windows only game?
Steam is native on Linux. A system called "Proton" that is used on the Steam Deck will do that for you.
Yes, check the protondb site for reference on which games of your library will work (spoiler: +90% does).
But will it run Crysis? (no)
If you need to run Windows apps, run Windows. Don't fall prey to the cult of the Penguin.
Ah yes, dependencies. When I install a program, I am not going to hunt for files to satisfy the program's needs. That is why I ignore SilverFast. On my Windows 7 Pro film scanning machine, it needed some .NET file. The version of .NET on that machine does not have that file. Bye bye SilverFast.
There are equivalents.
There aren't. If your company uses QuickBooks you can't run equivalent. If your company has specific industry apps, you can't swap to something else. Yes if you use Office tour could use LibreOffice but you can't just use something else especially when you work with other people
@@LironSegev I agree with you, but you can export it as a .doc file for Word, .xlsx for Excel, etc.
Is this a replacement for Wine?, does it works better than wine? easier to use than wine?
I want to install cracked games and softwares like photoshop.
It's supposed to be easier but who knows
Windows programs that rely on .NET Framework don't work in Linux...
@@Raylightsen Better than Wine.
Bottles is running on WINE under the hood, this is just a mere frontend to help you manage/install apps easier.
A bit disappointing as I'm looking for a usable Windows10 end of support solution.
Why such a weird name.... I thought Wine was bad enough.
What surprised me was you having all these issues, then somehow knowing you should look at the Wine site, rather than what your using - bottles, A seasoned user probably knows, not a newbie that your referring too.
I've been trying to install Microsoft Office (2016), Wine - no, 'Play on Linux' - no. Bottles - I haven't tried however after watching this video I don't think I'll even bother trying as it seems to be just another game centric toy.
I also tried 'Wine tricks', no joy there either.
As for using a VM, now that would be a nice video, I've tried Windows 7 under VirtualBox, yes it runs but the performance trade-off is hideous. I found QEMU-Virgil in the Ubuntu store, but all I get is a terminal style box of a machine booting that then stops at 'no boot device', no menu options to install a guest OS, no help button, extremely user unfriendly.
office pls
nf download finish soon
linux native notepadqq is a clone of notepad++
Yeah. Why use an editor under Wine? There are so many fabulous text editors available to Linux users.
I use Vim on Windows (or I did when I had to use Windows for work.)
If I can get Logitech G HUB to work in linux then I can finally make the switch to linux
There is a few ghub alternatives to linux
@@Totallynotmwa I've looked at Solaar, any other suggestions?
Why, do Linux people go on and on and on about how Windows sucks? Linux dominates the server space - yay! Windows dominated the client space yay! Why not just live with it - enjoy your hundreds of Linux flavours, and let Windows users stew in their misery? It makes you all sound like religious zealots whose mission is to force everyone to follow their beliefs, it may not be true, but that's how it sounds. I have tried Linux multiple times (and distros) and don't get on with it - isn't that OK for me? (btw I have worked with IT since 1974 and, along with mainframes, worked withe first gen IBM PC and the first gen Mac)
Why do people like you go on and on about Linux users? No one is forcing you to read their comments and watch Linux videos. If you don't like it just ignore them. At your age you should have worked out how people work by now.
Does MS Visio work?
Visio is available in Office 365 via a browser interface. Then there are native Linux drawing/charting apps like Dia which are easy to use.
@@dingokidneys really?! I have office 365, I had no idea. Thanks.
What happened to wine
Bottles is pretty much just a more user-friendly way to get WINE to work.
@@IsmailofeRegime oh I see
It's been a while since I mess around with Linux, can't believe that Ubuntu is now over 6gb for some reason
@@roberthenry7283Ubuntu lost its reputation, there are far better alternatives out there.
try running the KVM program Barrier on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DARE YOU
how about games or cracked softwares & cracked games 😅
Cracked games work pretty well. 80% of any I've installed in the app Lutris have worked fine with no messing around. I've not tried any software.
works like a charm. You might have to do some tinkering but if you are downloading cracked software this should be expected already