The ones that do know good writing will stand the test of time. *Only* if they don’t get complacent and use AI so much that they lose confidence in their skills.
It will be long while before AI can write serious books. I have been using Claude Sonnet as an writing aid and it always generates narratives that are superficial, but the outline is useful almost half of time. I have come to a point where Claude thinks my writing is “sophisticated, well paced, engaging,” etc. Do I trust its assessment? Only to an extend. The value of its assessment is in giving me the confidence to start working with a HUMAN content/structure editor. Not that I want to publish my work; I write for myself as a hobby.
I use AI to give me something to work on. As a writer who practiced for twenty years, I am confident to write and edit my own changes to make the draft better.
I use AI as an idea machine. It still requires my own creativity, but it's like having another writer with you. I write my own drafts and final work on pen and paper, it's distanced from what the AI generated.
I like that I can spit ball with the AI, tell it blah blah blah, here are my thoughts in a near stream of consciousness--and then it will take my fast grocery list of thoughts and put it into a format that is well structured. That saves my wrists, time and decreases the decision fatigue it would take just to structure those thoughts into a more cohesive delivery.
Absolutely agree with this! I was just telling a friend of mine that writing is rewriting. So AI is definitely helpful in getting outlines done and the 1st draft out. But you then have to take that and put your own “flavor” to it.
I just finished a Horror Comedy Novella where Freddy Kruger and a bunch of other famous slasher monsters hang out for a night of poker...and while I am loving the idea, I am finding I am hating the way it was written cause I got lazy and relied to heavily on AI. As a direct result of this I spent the last week working on an AI Writing Exercise Loop Tool that gives you a random set of criteria to meet. You can set things how you want, but it will default to random. It will give random a genre, POV, locations, etc...and then based on the difficulty level and Loop level it will give you a word count to work within. I also have some advanced settings that will force it to do some really wacky and weird stuff for people looking to challenge their creative muscles. But at the end, you can upload your work back into it and it will evaluate your work and give you a score and make suggestions for improvement. The latest part that I just added based on this video (Thanks Jason) that I am really liking is the "New POV Challenge. After you have written something and given it for evaluation, it will ask you if you want to try the New POV Challenge. If you do it will reload your previous settings and let you go again. Then it will review your new work and compare it to your previous work and evaluate that.
I write nonfiction. My ideas fed into the machine getting ideas for prompts. Then I write the section. Then proofreading with proofing tools. So I'm writing my material.
I second this. Editing for me is a slow grind. I guess I need to work on my prompting to try to close the gap between draft and final version as much as possible.
Thanks for this. I know you are investing in hiring a developmental editor but could you perhaps do a video for us that could help us do our first edits ourselves? I've seen so many blog posts about certain words that need to be cut and in all of them they mention 'fluff', get rid of the fluff, but they don't tell you or provide examples of what they deem 'fluff' to be. In some AI groups, the community mentions that writing with AI always has 'fluff' in its stories for the sake of dishing out a chapter but again they won't say what they feel it is, and if you ask they tend to make you feel stupid for not knowing what they refer to. I see in a lot of books that authors like to use metaphors to describe something, are metaphors seen as 'fluff'?
It’s actually pretty simple. If you look at a sentence or paragraph and ask yourself, can I write this in fewer words and still have it convey the same meaning? If so, all the words you cut are the fluff. It’s the redundancies, using four words when two will do, etc. the idea is that you always want to use fewer words to convey the meaning you want to give. AI tends to use far too many words to say even something simple.
I finished my first novella us AI and it's OK. I'm really good at writing 3000 word stories but I've never been able to get past 10k words. So I was really happy finishing a 40k word book. I may go through it one day and make it better but for now, I am happy with just finishing sonething
I know Getcovers is a very inexpensive company you can get a bookcover from which Jason had an advertisement for. There is also another company from the same people who own Getcovers that do even higher quality designs, which Jason showcased in a recent video where he talks about services/products one might use.
I've had discussions of there being a sort of 80/20 rule with AI tools where you can get most of the way there in a work but are confounded by the remaining needed to make it truly good in your eyes. I think the fundamentals then are still important on that 20% remaining. Using AI tools has gotten me farther in a novel than I've ever been in my entire life, but I know there's still work ahead to make it the best it can be.
In my experience, AI is very poor at writing parts of a story on it's own. It often comes out feeling overly generic. Having AI enhance your own writing is where I think AI became a great tool.
It will stop. I've been using it and practicing over two years with it. It did to me first, but over time it I started seeing things very very wrong with it. Then I practiced more and more and I got better. He's 💯 on every point. Practice using the tool, don't be the tool.
@@annawright1995, thanks for replying, but I really don't understand this advice. I'd like to use AI to my full advantage when writing a novel, but I feel like my writing level must not be advanced enough to get anything out of it. For example, it still manages to polish my work better than I can.
I like your number one and two because it feels similar to where I am. I am someone who struggles with reading and writing always like to the great what I could probably I couldn't. But that didn't stop me from making my own comic book series and I am in the process of adapting it into a prose novel format. But even with my limited experience I can see the flaws within the AI special it comes to adapting to buy my more unique aspects of the AI like to rely on tropes that I don't normally you.
I don’t people mean that it’s a mistake to use AI, but that it’s immoral. I’ve used the phrase when I’ve done something wrong. “I made a mistake.” I’m sure you’d still counter argue in the same manner, that to use a computer could be considered immoral, or some such. Perhaps a purist writer would contend that it should be done by hand? I have not seen your other videos, but writing by AI may have its benefits, but isn’t it like driving in second gear? It’s not going to be of use to a great writer if it only produces prosaic content. Artists should strive for greatness, not satisfied as mediocre.
#1 is my fear for the future of writing. Authors who don't know that they don't know.
The ones that do know good writing will stand the test of time. *Only* if they don’t get complacent and use AI so much that they lose confidence in their skills.
It will be long while before AI can write serious books. I have been using Claude Sonnet as an writing aid and it always generates narratives that are superficial, but the outline is useful almost half of time. I have come to a point where Claude thinks my writing is “sophisticated, well paced, engaging,” etc. Do I trust its assessment? Only to an extend. The value of its assessment is in giving me the confidence to start working with a HUMAN content/structure editor. Not that I want to publish my work; I write for myself as a hobby.
I use AI to give me something to work on. As a writer who practiced for twenty years, I am confident to write and edit my own changes to make the draft better.
I use AI as an idea machine. It still requires my own creativity, but it's like having another writer with you. I write my own drafts and final work on pen and paper, it's distanced from what the AI generated.
I like that I can spit ball with the AI, tell it blah blah blah, here are my thoughts in a near stream of consciousness--and then it will take my fast grocery list of thoughts and put it into a format that is well structured. That saves my wrists, time and decreases the decision fatigue it would take just to structure those thoughts into a more cohesive delivery.
@@aouyiu Cool.
Absolutely agree with this! I was just telling a friend of mine that writing is rewriting. So AI is definitely helpful in getting outlines done and the 1st draft out. But you then have to take that and put your own “flavor” to it.
Could you please consider doing a full course/Master class video on using Draft to Digital and provide tips and things to avoid for beginners?
I just finished a Horror Comedy Novella where Freddy Kruger and a bunch of other famous slasher monsters hang out for a night of poker...and while I am loving the idea, I am finding I am hating the way it was written cause I got lazy and relied to heavily on AI. As a direct result of this I spent the last week working on an AI Writing Exercise Loop Tool that gives you a random set of criteria to meet. You can set things how you want, but it will default to random. It will give random a genre, POV, locations, etc...and then based on the difficulty level and Loop level it will give you a word count to work within.
I also have some advanced settings that will force it to do some really wacky and weird stuff for people looking to challenge their creative muscles. But at the end, you can upload your work back into it and it will evaluate your work and give you a score and make suggestions for improvement.
The latest part that I just added based on this video (Thanks Jason) that I am really liking is the "New POV Challenge. After you have written something and given it for evaluation, it will ask you if you want to try the New POV Challenge. If you do it will reload your previous settings and let you go again. Then it will review your new work and compare it to your previous work and evaluate that.
A big one is authors not having a business mindset. A lot of artists just wanna make stuff and have money roll in magically
I write nonfiction. My ideas fed into the machine getting ideas for prompts. Then I write the section. Then proofreading with proofing tools. So I'm writing my material.
Great stuff. Thank you!
This was a good one dude, very comprehensive explanation and kudos for laying it out straight 👍
Thanks!
I’m glad you are bringing up these points.
Fantastic video! Do you have any resources regarding editing? In my entire process using AI to assist with writing, this is my weakest point.
I second this. Editing for me is a slow grind. I guess I need to work on my prompting to try to close the gap between draft and final version as much as possible.
That’s because it’s AI’s weakest point too.
Excellent video!!! Love the analogy at the beginning
Thanks for another great podcast!
Thanks for this.
I know you are investing in hiring a developmental editor but could you perhaps do a video for us that could help us do our first edits ourselves?
I've seen so many blog posts about certain words that need to be cut and in all of them they mention 'fluff', get rid of the fluff, but they don't tell you or provide examples of what they deem 'fluff' to be.
In some AI groups, the community mentions that writing with AI always has 'fluff' in its stories for the sake of dishing out a chapter but again they won't say what they feel it is, and if you ask they tend to make you feel stupid for not knowing what they refer to. I see in a lot of books that authors like to use metaphors to describe something, are metaphors seen as 'fluff'?
It’s actually pretty simple. If you look at a sentence or paragraph and ask yourself, can I write this in fewer words and still have it convey the same meaning? If so, all the words you cut are the fluff. It’s the redundancies, using four words when two will do, etc. the idea is that you always want to use fewer words to convey the meaning you want to give. AI tends to use far too many words to say even something simple.
always always always works smarter AND harder
Boom!
What's the best place to find an editor
Do you have any suggestions for the non writers on improving there writing skills? Classes or other videos ect.
I finished my first novella us AI and it's OK. I'm really good at writing 3000 word stories but I've never been able to get past 10k words. So I was really happy finishing a 40k word book. I may go through it one day and make it better but for now, I am happy with just finishing sonething
Fantastic video.
Any tips on finding good artists for a bookcover?
I know Getcovers is a very inexpensive company you can get a bookcover from which Jason had an advertisement for. There is also another company from the same people who own Getcovers that do even higher quality designs, which Jason showcased in a recent video where he talks about services/products one might use.
Me… way over 500 book covers for authors from all over the world, spanning 2 decades+
AI is a really powerful tool. It should be used as one!
Hey can u make a video about how to do writing related research with AI?
Not a bad idea!
I've had discussions of there being a sort of 80/20 rule with AI tools where you can get most of the way there in a work but are confounded by the remaining needed to make it truly good in your eyes. I think the fundamentals then are still important on that 20% remaining. Using AI tools has gotten me farther in a novel than I've ever been in my entire life, but I know there's still work ahead to make it the best it can be.
In my experience, AI is very poor at writing parts of a story on it's own. It often comes out feeling overly generic. Having AI enhance your own writing is where I think AI became a great tool.
Yikes, I need to work on my writing, because Chat GPT's rewrites feel impressive to me.
It will stop. I've been using it and practicing over two years with it. It did to me first, but over time it I started seeing things very very wrong with it. Then I practiced more and more and I got better. He's 💯 on every point. Practice using the tool, don't be the tool.
@@annawright1995, thanks for replying, but I really don't understand this advice. I'd like to use AI to my full advantage when writing a novel, but I feel like my writing level must not be advanced enough to get anything out of it. For example, it still manages to polish my work better than I can.
It takes ten years to MASTER a discipline.
It doesn’t! It’s much faster if you practice deliberately, set specific goals, and are coached constantly
Thanks for the great input however I have absolutely no clue who Mr. Beast is....
Biggest UA-camr in the world.
I like your number one and two because it feels similar to where I am. I am someone who struggles with reading and writing always like to the great what I could probably I couldn't. But that didn't stop me from making my own comic book series and I am in the process of adapting it into a prose novel format. But even with my limited experience I can see the flaws within the AI special it comes to adapting to buy my more unique aspects of the AI like to rely on tropes that I don't normally you.
Jason take your early ass to sleep. Making me watch a video all early.
Lol, good morning!
I don’t people mean that it’s a mistake to use AI, but that it’s immoral. I’ve used the phrase when I’ve done something wrong. “I made a mistake.” I’m sure you’d still counter argue in the same manner, that to use a computer could be considered immoral, or some such. Perhaps a purist writer would contend that it should be done by hand?
I have not seen your other videos, but writing by AI may have its benefits, but isn’t it like driving in second gear? It’s not going to be of use to a great writer if it only produces prosaic content. Artists should strive for greatness, not satisfied as mediocre.