Personally, I think you did an outstanding job on that rear quarter. Know you learned something from the attempt, and that my friend is most important. I applaud you for making arrangements to replace that quarter. You won’t be sorry, we are fortunate enough to see a quarter replaced using new technology. We’ll all be smarter. Your attempt to repair the quarter with nothing short of genius.
Absolutely get yourself a frame machine. That'll be the day brother! After watching the video, don't beat yourself up dude. Your skills at that QP repair are something else. Every time you do something, you learn something new that will help you down the road. Keep it up man.
It was a valiant effort Ben. I’m still learning things at 70 years old in the trades. Learning and helping others is definitely a great feeling. You’re doing a great job. Thanks for the content. I always look forward to watching your videos.
Ben, When you are working with love and passion, it truly shows. It's like watching an artist. Very therapeutic and calming. Yes! On the frame machine, love watching you (and Uri) work that.
Apart from the time, you had a lot of practice pulling the panel and really tested your skill. Some times you succeed, and sometimes you don't. At least there is an option of panel replacement.
@@natalinowertynaw more like new generation of body panels, just to flimsy and made of aluminum most of the time now. not enough meat to mold back into place like the old days
that's how they did it back in the day before body panels were so readily available. Pound it out and fill it. But that's back when bodies were made of 1/16" thick steel not tinfoil lol....
Ben already has the spotter tool and the basic sheet metalworking skills, with a bit more time/practice he could've salvaged that quarter panel. Matching that Matte White actually is pretty simple. Most important part is obviously getting the white undertone as close as possible. Then you just use the clearcoat that you would normally use and add a matting agent. I was nervous first time I did it but then quickly realized that you can't really mess it up unless you sag or run the clear. Also some suggested repainting the whole car a different color... That would be a TON of work to do it right, because then you'd have to paint the insides of the doors, underside of trunk lid, underside of the hood and also get the door jams, trunk area and engine bay repainted (last one would require engine to be pulled). Much easier and cheaper to just color match the replacement panel... P.S. that spotter tool is a must for sheet metal work the only downside is it is pretty expensive... However, just about anyone can easily build one out of some microwave transformers. I built mine few years ago for dirt cheap. I did a very detailed video on that build on my channel. If anyone is interested check it out and build yourself one, you'll be glad you did 😉
I just checked out your channel… Bro you do a lot of similar work as Ben… I appreciate the fact that you break everything down in your videos, easy to follow along and learn. I Subscribed 😊
Hey, in your spotter build video you got everything wired up to 110V… in my country, we only run 220V what would I need to do differently to make it work?
@@bluehatch11 The voltage is 120 because the microwaves were on 120 and that makes the transformers requiring 120. However if you are using 220 in your country then build the tool the same exact way as I showed it and run it on 220... Good luck !
A man with morals, Ben you actually care about your skill and the amount of time you put into a job, you know when you sell it you are guilt clear that its not a botch job. Well done
Make sure to hang up this quarter panel on your shop wall (next to the BMW sign!) as a trophy, and as a reminder of what you’re capable of. Nice work Ben!
That cut on your hand, my G. I feel it. Man everything takes sacrifice. I try my best to stay injury free everyday day. You truly inspire me to step up my game. 🍻
So close but no cigar...love that you made the effort and realized that was not the right way to go...Ben been watching you for quite a long time now and love this channel...keep up the great work!! You rock
Ben, so amazing how close you got on the quarter panel. But you are correct, the best fix is going to be to replace. You deserve some time off after all of your hard work, enjoy your time off in Florida.👍🏼
Ben, I'm in the camp that you should keep working at that quarter, between welding, dentfix and patience with test fitting, you will get it. I understand the new metal would have obvious benefits, but this is the type of repair that sets you apart, you can do it, you are 90% there!
Yes definatley get yourself a frame machine , in your early video's you did some rally amazing work with the one you had at your dads place , blew me away sometimes what was possible .
There's no fail when you gain experience. New quarter panel is definitely the way to go for this one, I'm sure you'll make this thing look amazing when it's done!
I love it when to us regular Johns panels can look totally trashed but you always say "it's not looking too bad!" definitely get yourself a frame puller 💪🏻
You did not fail at repairing the quarter panel. It was failed before you tried to restore it. You came close, and you tried. That's says more than you think. Respect brother 🤛🏻
The fact that you almost managed to fix the rear panel is a learning experience so that the next time it will be easier as you will know what to do and what to becareful of.Enjoy your break and come back refreshed to do it all again.
Candyman is a magician with paint. Great choice. Can't wait to see the final product. Get a frame machine, you've been established as a master so we (I) want to see more.
Suggestion 🤪👍 get billy (goonsquad) too paint your flat matt job ????? He is improving and would be a great 2-3 vid both sides collab. Extra bucks pal. Even if he screws its up, redo- it next vid. Step by step ?? Great idea aye.
That quarter panel could possibly have been saved using lead on the panel gap to the bumper and the area around the tail light. Bondo will definately crack in those areas. We used lead a lot back in the day. But now it’s forbidden, at least here in germany, so the skills are lost. Still, doing so and saving the panel would have left the inside somewhat mangled up, which you don’t want on such an expensive, almost new car. So renewing the panel is justified. Oh and yes the new quarter is glued and rivited in - except for the cut at the C-pillar. BMW has gone back to wealding on that cut due to quality issues. By the way, I’m the guy who writes the repair manuals for BMW, here in munich/germany. Cheers
@@gregh7457 Yes that's true. But the temperature window of the new lead free solder is much smaller. So much so, that it was found to be non useable for the technicians. At least that's what the department for repair and maintenance at BMW concluded. I tried it too, couldn't handle it, although I did it a lot in my work shop days. (using the old leaded solder) I actually liked working with lead - quite simple once you've got the hang of it.
When I saw you start on that quarter panel I thought there’s no way you’re getting that straight but you really did show your skill set as close as you got it. I think this car is one of your toughest yet
You are the Frame Machine whisperer. That is how we got to know you. You have to have one Ben. You`ll have a line all the way down the road with people wanting and needing your expertise.
I commend your pragmatic "quality 1st" attitude. It would be criminal to bury that in bondo and an expensive paint-job on a car that valuable. Besides, your time spent on trying to save it was NOT wasted. Your upped your skillset, and provided great content for your viewers.
Nice work anyway, as always. In the end you tried to fix it and there is nothing to regret ! For your peace of mind if it tells you to replace it, do it ! Have nice vacations !
If you're able to get a frame machine it would be fantastic, you're definitely the King of UA-cam framework with your skills and have save enough other youtubers projects !! Thats what initally amazed me with your channel 👍
It was a valient effort, and it is so nice to see someone taking a good shot at it, and then deciding to change course. That's life, right? Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos too! Great watch! I'm excited to see what else you have to be working on!
You did a great job, I think that panel was beyond repair and you still managed to get it close to a point where many would just filler up those areas. Good luck!
Forgive me for I'm not a car body repairman...and I can see what you mean with just using filler. So I'm just wondering how about just taking sheet metal stock and being able to graft it in. Is that just too much of a hit or miss art form to recreate the lines of that outer wheel well meeting the taillight and bumper?
It was super interesting to watch you try to fix the dented quarter, but I also think the more practice you get it’s never a failure it’s building a skill And I think as well you need to get yourself a frame machine!
This is Chris the GM at BMW of Chattanooga, next time you are in for parts come see me. I have something that you might want to hang in your garage.
That's really cool of you Chris
would you have any job openings?
Now that`s how you do it. Cool stuff Chris. Big like from me.!
@@Reviews_By_Pish looking for a sales associate and possibly porter/BMW Genius
Hi Chris!
You have proven time and again you are a Frame Whisperer! We all enjoy the frame content. Hats off to your skills and work ethic.
If anyone needs a vacation it’s you Ben. I’m constantly amazed at how hard you work to get a project as good or better than new. Have fun.
Tavarish would have taken 8 months to finish such a project
Personally, I think you did an outstanding job on that rear quarter. Know you learned something from the attempt, and that my friend is most important. I applaud you for making arrangements to replace that quarter. You won’t be sorry, we are fortunate enough to see a quarter replaced using new technology. We’ll all be smarter. Your attempt to repair the quarter with nothing short of genius.
Absolutely get yourself a frame machine. That'll be the day brother!
After watching the video, don't beat yourself up dude. Your skills at that QP repair are something else. Every time you do something, you learn something new that will help you down the road. Keep it up man.
It was a valiant effort Ben. I’m still learning things at 70 years old in the trades. Learning and helping others is definitely a great feeling. You’re doing a great job. Thanks for the content. I always look forward to watching your videos.
Yes get the frame tool It will come in handy to straighten frames out
You made a noble effort and almost got it. If anything it made your skills just that much better. Everything in life is a learning experience.
Ben,
When you are working with love and passion, it truly shows. It's like watching an artist.
Very therapeutic and calming.
Yes! On the frame machine, love watching you (and Uri) work that.
No Bullshit, just work being done. One man show, way to go!.
Love love love watching vtune work! I’d slap on some metal to metal body filler in and keep the original quarter but that’s just me!
Apart from the time, you had a lot of practice pulling the panel and really tested your skill.
Some times you succeed, and sometimes you don't. At least there is an option of panel replacement.
Get the frame! You are the master of frame machine
Kid is a freakin absolute Body work master, awesome job
Replacing that quarter panel was the only real fix for that panel. Good effort trying to pound it out though.
yeah for the new generation of "body guys"..
@@natalinowertynaw more like new generation of body panels, just to flimsy and made of aluminum most of the time now. not enough meat to mold back into place like the old days
that's how they did it back in the day before body panels were so readily available. Pound it out and fill it. But that's back when bodies were made of 1/16" thick steel not tinfoil lol....
@@gregh7457 lol okay but not everyone can be Tussik !
@@gregh7457Tusk is capable but most what he does is considered hack work
Ben you are a true craftsman, most people would have bought a new panel but you done another amazing job with that one
Ben already has the spotter tool and the basic sheet metalworking skills, with a bit more time/practice he could've salvaged that quarter panel.
Matching that Matte White actually is pretty simple. Most important part is obviously getting the white undertone as close as possible. Then you just use the clearcoat that you would normally use and add a matting agent. I was nervous first time I did it but then quickly realized that you can't really mess it up unless you sag or run the clear.
Also some suggested repainting the whole car a different color... That would be a TON of work to do it right, because then you'd have to paint the insides of the doors, underside of trunk lid, underside of the hood and also get the door jams, trunk area and engine bay repainted (last one would require engine to be pulled). Much easier and cheaper to just color match the replacement panel...
P.S. that spotter tool is a must for sheet metal work the only downside is it is pretty expensive... However, just about anyone can easily build one out of some microwave transformers. I built mine few years ago for dirt cheap. I did a very detailed video on that build on my channel. If anyone is interested check it out and build yourself one, you'll be glad you did 😉
I just checked out your channel… Bro you do a lot of similar work as Ben… I appreciate the fact that you break everything down in your videos, easy to follow along and learn. I Subscribed 😊
@@davidlee-mf5yf Wow... Thanks man! And welcome aboard !
Hey, in your spotter build video you got everything wired up to 110V… in my country, we only run 220V what would I need to do differently to make it work?
@@bluehatch11 The voltage is 120 because the microwaves were on 120 and that makes the transformers requiring 120. However if you are using 220 in your country then build the tool the same exact way as I showed it and run it on 220... Good luck !
Cool! Thanks for getting back!!
Definitely get a frame machine. I really enjoy watching you do frame work. You are the master.
Your a perfectionist. That quarter panel is on 97% ok
A man with morals, Ben you actually care about your skill and the amount of time you put into a job, you know when you sell it you are guilt clear that its not a botch job. Well done
Hope you have having a good vacation. Miss the con tent. Good luck.
I love watching you spin your magic. Officially legit.
Awesome work man
Make sure to hang up this quarter panel on your shop wall (next to the BMW sign!) as a trophy, and as a reminder of what you’re capable of. Nice work Ben!
Absolutely purchase a frame machine, those videos are my favorite. Furthermore, you have some mad skills with the frame machine.
You can’t go wrong with Candy Man, seen his work and it’s top notch
Candyman is one of the goats when it comes to painting cars good choice can’t wait to see the end results!!
That cut on your hand, my G. I feel it. Man everything takes sacrifice. I try my best to stay injury free everyday day. You truly inspire me to step up my game. 🍻
You are a natural with a frame machine. So yes please get one. Maybe a used one because someone is upgrading.
So close but no cigar...love that you made the effort and realized that was not the right way to go...Ben been watching you for quite a long time now and love this channel...keep up the great work!! You rock
When you're doing this kind of work it's just magical to watch.
Dude, kudos on trying to repair it, hate to say.... it was a replace from the start, love your enthusiasm and it was great experience for you
Ben, so amazing how close you got on the quarter panel. But you are correct, the best fix is going to be to replace. You deserve some time off after all of your hard work, enjoy your time off in Florida.👍🏼
You are the framework genius Ben, go recharge and hopefully by the time you come back someone would have donated a frame machine for your shop. 💪🏾♥️🇿🇦
I’ve followed you and others from the beginning you are the best at bodywork. I’ve never seen any better keep up the good work man.
Get that frame machine!
The fact that you almost fixed that mess up quarter panel, I was super impressed. Is it like fixing a crushed down can of soda. You are a beast 💪.
Go for the frame machine !! Do what you are very good in !!
Yes I like the content of your framing work it’s dope
I find the work done with the frame machine is very interesting and may be good content for this already great channel
You’re good at frame jobs I think it’s a good idea
DEFINITELY GET A FRAME MACHINE . THATS YOUR THING. love the show .keep up the good work.
Ben, I'm in the camp that you should keep working at that quarter, between welding, dentfix and patience with test fitting, you will get it. I understand the new metal would have obvious benefits, but this is the type of repair that sets you apart, you can do it, you are 90% there!
Long time fan.. get one sir.. you deserve it
Yes to the Frame Machine !
I like the beats when V tuned is fixing the car
Yes. Get a frame machine. I enjoy watching you do frame work.
Yes definatley get yourself a frame machine , in your early video's you did some rally amazing work with the one you had at your dads place , blew me away sometimes what was possible .
I’m glad you’re taking some personal time, he did a great job to shame they don’t make cars like they used to. The metal is so thin.
You did a good job 👍, I'm happy to see, you know when to go another direction to perfection 🎉🎉😊😊
Yes. get a frame machine. Your metalskills are magic 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Love your videos my man. You make fixing these cars super freaking easy. Great work!
Definitely get the frame machine, and a 2024 bmw deserves a new quarter panel ,but u did a good job if straightening it out, thank u from nyc
There's no fail when you gain experience. New quarter panel is definitely the way to go for this one, I'm sure you'll make this thing look amazing when it's done!
I love it when to us regular Johns panels can look totally trashed but you always say "it's not looking too bad!" definitely get yourself a frame puller 💪🏻
You did not fail at repairing the quarter panel. It was failed before you tried to restore it. You came close, and you tried. That's says more than you think. Respect brother 🤛🏻
Ben you made the right choice on the quarter panel. A frame machine would be a big help to you and make you some money!
The fact that you almost managed to fix the rear panel is a learning experience so that the next time it will be easier as you will know what to do and what to becareful of.Enjoy your break and come back refreshed to do it all again.
Candyman is a magician with paint. Great choice. Can't wait to see the final product. Get a frame machine, you've been established as a master so we (I) want to see more.
Amen. I'm new to Candyman's channel but the stuff I have seen by him was amazing! Ben made a good choice going with him.
Suggestion 🤪👍 get billy (goonsquad) too paint your flat matt job ?????
He is improving and would be a great 2-3 vid both sides collab. Extra bucks pal. Even if he screws its up, redo- it next vid. Step by step ??
Great idea aye.
I seriously enjoy your frame work, getting a frame machine would open a lot of possibilities up on builds from classic to domestic and exotic
That quarter panel could possibly have been saved using lead on the panel gap to the bumper and the area around the tail light. Bondo will definately crack in those areas. We used lead a lot back in the day. But now it’s forbidden, at least here in germany, so the skills are lost. Still, doing so and saving the panel would have left the inside somewhat mangled up, which you don’t want on such an expensive, almost new car. So renewing the panel is justified. Oh and yes the new quarter is glued and rivited in - except for the cut at the C-pillar. BMW has gone back to wealding on that cut due to quality issues. By the way, I’m the guy who writes the repair manuals for BMW, here in munich/germany. Cheers
they do make a lead free body solder
@@gregh7457
Yes that's true. But the temperature window of the new lead free solder is much smaller. So much so, that it was found to be non useable for the technicians. At least that's what the department for repair and maintenance at BMW concluded. I tried it too, couldn't handle it, although I did it a lot in my work shop days. (using the old leaded solder) I actually liked working with lead - quite simple once you've got the hang of it.
Loving this restoration. Certainly not a waste of time or failure if you’ve been testing your skills.
Nothing wrong with wanting to test your skills. Great video.
A frame machine would help. But you have great skills at doing it the old fashion way. You rock.
Yepp Ben, Frame machine please 🙏 love to see you working on it ❤
Damn bro. You are a master body man already. You were born with this talent. Wish you were local, I'd definitely render your services
I think you do an excellent job on the frame machine. I enjoy watching your transformations. I wish I had that skill.
Have a nice vacation bro!!
Definitely enjoy watching any content you produce involving frame machines. Would be great if you got one.
You totally need a frame machine!! You are really good at that and I love watching you bring a twisted peace of wreakage to life. 👍
Your the master of frame work
When I saw you start on that quarter panel I thought there’s no way you’re getting that straight but you really did show your skill set as close as you got it. I think this car is one of your toughest yet
Your integrity always impresses. Way not to cut corners. If you don't try you'll never learn new skills
Magician as usual
A big yes on a frame puller machine 😊
Definitely not wasted time , always expands skill level but you are doing the right thing
You are the Frame Machine whisperer. That is how we got to know you. You have to have one Ben. You`ll have a line all the way down the road with people wanting and needing your expertise.
GET THAT FRAME MACHINE! Its really cool to watch you repair the entire car
I commend your pragmatic "quality 1st" attitude. It would be criminal to bury that in bondo and an expensive paint-job on a car that valuable. Besides, your time spent on trying to save it was NOT wasted. Your upped your skillset, and provided great content for your viewers.
Love and respect to your efforts ❤❤Perfect and excellent 💥🔥
Nice work anyway, as always. In the end you tried to fix it and there is nothing to regret ! For your peace of mind if it tells you to replace it, do it ! Have nice vacations !
If you're able to get a frame machine it would be fantastic, you're definitely the King of UA-cam framework with your skills and have save enough other youtubers projects !! Thats what initally amazed me with your channel 👍
It was a valient effort, and it is so nice to see someone taking a good shot at it, and then deciding to change course. That's life, right? Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos too! Great watch! I'm excited to see what else you have to be working on!
Wow, Young Man you are impressive, Enjoy your videos from central Fl.
Straight to the point. 👍🏾🔥🔥
Great stuff dude thanks have fun on your vacation.
You did a great job, I think that panel was beyond repair and you still managed to get it close to a point where many would just filler up those areas. Good luck!
Forgive me for I'm not a car body repairman...and I can see what you mean with just using filler. So I'm just wondering how about just taking sheet metal stock and being able to graft it in. Is that just too much of a hit or miss art form to recreate the lines of that outer wheel well meeting the taillight and bumper?
@@ouch74 as you say, it is more of an art. It is doable, but not worth the time it would take. Easier to get a replacement panel that will fit 100%
The only consistent Car UA-camr these days...🙏🏿
Definitely get a frame machine, absolute magic to watch you work with one
Hello from Argentina, I see all your very good videos. If you can, put a Spanish translation. Greetings.
Loved todays video!! You learn something every time you try something!! Have a great vaction
Would like to see a frame machine Ben,
You are yet again putting 100 % effort in keep up the good work all the best from the UK..👍
You ask us if farming king should go back to framing, of course!!! Vtuned best man in framing 💪👍
Good call on replacing the qtr panel.
I really enjoyed seeing the majic that you did with the frame machine at your dad's shop. So my vote os for you to get one.
It was super interesting to watch you try to fix the dented quarter, but I also think the more practice you get it’s never a failure it’s building a skill
And I think as well you need to get yourself a frame machine!
Great job with that body work, you should keep at it, show us the skills 👌
100/100 love Canada M.T.L Merci V.T.😮
Yes get a frame machine , just saying from north of Newcastle 🇬🇧🇬🇧😊
Always a joy to watch a true body Man!! Its all In the Vision inyour Brain!!😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉