NEW Contrast 2.0 Can Do WHAT?! FULL REVIEW
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0:00 Intro
1:26 GW's Paint Maestro
3:48 In Depth Look at Each Paint
5:09 These Aren't Contrast Paints...
6:14 Weak Colors
7:00 Heavy Hitters
7:44 Painting a Banana Marine
10:16 Accent Colors & The Dirty Contrast Problem
12:17 Panel Lining & Glazing
12:47 The WORST Paint in the Range
13:20 Hiding our Mistakes
15:36 The Good, Bad & Surprising of this Range
18:29 Sneak Peak & Outtakes
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With how much of a pain Yellow is, I could see this being the new standard method for Imperial Fists. Awesome.
I might actually try to paint them now. I think I'd use it for Escher yellow in Necromunda.
Aye, paint on that yellow contrast, then if you want it to be an easier-to-fix paint, you can easily layer over a regular yellow paint
Duncan Rhodes has a pretty EZ yellow - Iyanden Yellow base followed by Yriel yellow to even out the panels. He uses Phalanx Yellow and Ushabti Bone for highlights. I plan on trying this on some 30k models where I'll probably dry brush the highlights.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll look for the video.
As difficult as yellow can be, I've always found it a lot easier to just build out the basics in a matte white, with warm (think red or scarlet) shadows, and just glazing over it with a yellow ink. Works great for me...
As a space wolves player, the Pylar Glacier makes me feel things in my plums. That has “frost weapon” written all over it.
I've tried using it for my ice weapons but it really is to weak. I found Briar Queen Chill its better. To be fair tho I usually throw a layer of Pylar for a slight pop
@@Luno870 the issue is, after a point, ice is white but games and art show that ice weapons would be more blue.
Pylar Glacier from what I saw in another video is almost exclusively for making Ice, like the ice weapons of some of the space wolves... it worked REALLY good for that!
yeah it feels like it would have been labeled a technical paint like Hexwraith Flame had it come out at the same time (as the original Hexwraith flame, obviously).
It looks like it could work really well for a white feather look. I imagine a lot of people will want to try using it on Sanguinary Guard or Stormcast Prosecutors
This was my thought exactly from Jon's description of it's behavior, like that blue would really simulate the way light disperses/diminishes through a glacier to produce that "blue ice" effect in reality.
I imagine a drop or two might work as a tint for water effect resins...
I might pick it up to paint snow on bases for my Frostgrave warband. I was going to use Lothern Blue and white, but this seems easier.
You upgraded your studio camera setup; and I’m all for it! Footage looks amazing, man! Great video 🙌
That Pylar Glacier seems like it might be interesting to use as an undercoat, to establish cooler, darker shadows than some of the stronger staining colors might allow, on their own, if you, for some reason, don't want to deal with zenithal priming, or building a grisaille, before closing up with contrast colors...
Vince's "serial killer face." Lmao!
Great review! Lots of useful pointers and very helpful to see a model single coated with each colour to understand exactly the effect produced. Thanks!
Thanks for the review, I’ve been curious to see more about the new contrast colors. Def going to add a few to my arsenal.
4:42 That's because he IS a serial killer. The amount of grey he slays is unparalleled.
I recently transitioned from using contrast paints to using oil and enamel based paints for the same purpose. Its a LOT cheaper, can be mixed in just the right way and the results blow regular contrast paint out of the water. Granted its more skill intensive and requires experience as well as some effort as it requires extra steps like intermediate clearcoats and using different solvents but has many advantages other than just better results abd more control over the paint. The fact that its 100% reversible and can be modified days or weeks after application is a bonus that cant be overstated. On top of that you can get a full set of oil paints, solvent and extra brushes for around the same price as 5-6 pots of gw contrast and the fact that this is enough to last you entire decades of mini painting was the fact that made the extra effort required worth it in my mind.
Yup exactly 💯 that's why I switched to oil paint .
Love this. However, I've never heard someone really describe the difference between oil and enamel paints - what are the advantages of using one over the other, or of using both together? I'm just starting in oils and I haven't found an answer. Cheers!
It would be nice if you make some tutorials!
@@RyanEdwardsVA Tamiya's Enamel is special , it only dry /// Other Enamel & Oil Paints will dry and cure , they won't redissolve after cure
I love my oils and enamels. The downside though is that they take a long time to dry, which and be a deal breaker if you’re on a schedule or just inpatient. I use contrast as just another tool in my box if I don’t want to wait. That being said, you can make your own contrast paints out of some acrylic ink, matte medium, and flow improver for cheaper if you want
Terrific overview of the new contrast paints. I"ve watched a few dozen of these reviews, and this is one of the best.
Thanks for such a great vid, this was super helpful and informative! It really helps seeing all these new colors in action. Can't wait to get my hands on them.
16:18, Spanish painters stealing paints xd
Their pockets looked like gopher cheeks when they left! 🐿
@@Ninjon 🙈🙈🙈🤣🤣
I appreciated learning how you create the chips in the armor with your sponge technique! The most valuable part of the entire video! Thanks!
Almost surprised finding myself kinda impressed with this new range... They seems to be really useful and looks great. As allways thanks for the video!
I really love your videos, your style of work! It inspires me to start painting right away.
The only thing that I would have to say, is that for half the videos, I don't like the picture of the mini on the thumbnail. But in the video it looks amazing!
Thank you for everything, keep the great work!
Looking forward to this review keep seeing the contrast paints pop up everywhere and his review may just point me in the right direction
That Imperial Fists Yellow looks incredible. Exactly what I needed for my... Imperial Fists...
Pair it with the Iyanden Yellow for that nice orange-y shift in the shadows and I think I'm golden.
Can't wait to make my pilgrimage to Warhammer World next year!
i would say closer to orange yellow than golden.
@@dalekayse4916 lol I meant golden as in good 😂
Coool. Thanks for sharing the info Jon! Can't wait to hear about their new white spray
Pulling that big bag full of contrast out the box looked super satisfying
Superb thorough review and the bonus BTS of the Heresy Event was a nice addition. Really informative and useful. Cheers.
I've been a big fan of Contrast as my base layer since I started painting again and some of those colors look fantastic. I'll need to find an excuse to pick some up.
Can't wait for the shade video, thanks as always for keeping us updated
Thank you Jon.. something for us all to look forward to to get our hands on these paints :)
That yellow looks real smooth, and the saturation is lovely. I usually go with yellow ink if I'm trying to get that result but obviously not having to add any shading after the basecoat stage before applying ink is a nice time saver so I may check these out in the future. also I've never flown to England specifically for a power point presentation...but I have flown from my home in England to visit my cousin in America, and he litterally locked me in a room and made me listen to Tony Robbins self help tapes all day...and make notes... that was my take away from L.A lol
Kind of just looks like an ink to me
Thx for this video! It really helps me between which paint i should chose for my painting!! Youre awesome!
That yellow looks great. It reminds me of Golden's diarylide yellow, one of my favorite acrylic paints.
thanks for helping me sort thru my next paint upgrade!
Awesome video!! Looking forward to these new paints.
The best product GW has ever made? Damn! This could only either be the Priming Stick or the Artificer Brush.
Suspect Ninjon may be talking about the new white spray. If it is what he basecoated the space marine he used the contrasts on in this video it looks pretty great.
@@owenstephens8691 I use Vallejo Spray White. It's great and less expensive.
Thanks Jon, so much useful info packed into this video!
Thank you for this it really helped a lot to see this kind of work done
Excitmentlevels for 90% of the room
#3. New Horus Heresy line
#2. New contrast paints
#1. Meeting Vince Venturella IRL
Boooy! You nailed this video, very useful, awesome editing, super informative. Great Work, GW should give you a nice pat in the back because you just sold me A LOT of new Contrasts paints.
Your videos are getting better and better! Great video!
Very informative video! Now I know I want a couple of those. Thanks a lot!
Great informative video. I only get to do one RTT a month due to scheduling but I hobby almost daily. I’m definitely going to pull some of these paints into my quiver.
I’m excited to see what these paints are all about.
So comprehensive. Not that I expected anything less from you haha. Well done!
Great video, contrast paints are great for a wide variety of stuff due to their interesting properties, and I'm excited to try out the new ones. On another note, in the video where you painted your nightlords, you mentioned maybe doing a follow up video where you show how to take that paint job to the next level. I would love to see that video. I have done a bunch of speed paint jobs following your and Vince's tutorials, but I am not always sure what to do when I want to put additional time into them without ruining them.
Contrast has made me love painting again. The yellows are absurdly beautiful. Like amazing detail with little work.
From your ad on this, we need to see you paint the Cloudbreaker! That would be a fun video to see!
I'm interested to see what happens when you mix in some medium with the contrast paints that are basically inks, like he said. They just don't make a lot of sense in terms of bang for your buck. So, I wonder if they can be taken in a different direction.
You have a beautiful pupper. Thanks for the rundown on the paints.
I think I like the six "non-contrast" contrast paints. Contrast tries to do so much for you all at once, that it leaves you wondering how to use it if you actually want to a better paint job than contrast alone will provide.
I could use a good basecoat-plus, like I'm seeing with those six. Also the subtle shading in that contrast yellow is amazing.
Really enjoyed your perspective and commentary, thank you!
Very cool video! Ty for the breakdown. Found a few I'll definitely pick up and a few to avoid for what I'm using them for
Would love to see someone test these new contrasts out on bright metallics!
That shot with the dude getting all up in Vince's face cracked me up way more than it probably should. I know Vince. I would not be welcome back to his house if I crept up in his space like that. His stoicism was just funny.
Love your vids... Going to grab a couple of the new paints
Dude! That first mini you showed was something I theorized up as a fun paint scheme for my dark eldar incubi back in 6th edition. Used a black and white sketch on a piece of paper and some colored pencils at the time. Gonna have to give it a proper try now on an actual mini.
Painted my first mini ever today. Largely in part to your videos and encouraging words. I've always wanted to start, but never did until now. Been playing games for about 4 decades.and finally took the plunge. It turned out....ok. BTW...I'm 55. Never too late.to.start. Thanks!!!
Ahhh dude this is an amazing review of the new Contrast paints. I invested in the original paints when they first came out and have since used only 50% of them due to the reasons you have highlighted with the new paints. Flat paint and paints that are too transparent!
So having watched your review I know which paints that I won't use 👍. Thank you mate, you've just saved me about £100!
Some of the 'inks' I already have so I can avoid those as well 😉.
The proper Contrast Paints look freakin awesome though I'll most definitely get those 😊.
CANNOT WAIT for the shades review, the GW images make them look like pin washes!!!! Have they created shades that don't coffee stain and properly find the recesses!!!
Thanks again mi amigo, keep up the most excellent work 👏👌🖌️😊👍
Thanks! 😎 Insider tips and the 20 by 1 is an affirmative patron +
Thank you , Jon .
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Great idea, thank you for doing this work
Excellent review, thanks a lot!
Awesome, thanks for the overview! 🤓
Keen as mustard to get my hands on some of these colours. Especially that brown and the yellows.
I'm going to have to try out these yellows because wow. That looks a lot easier than what it takes to normally apply yellow.
I’ve only just started using contrast a couple of months ago so I’m very interested with what you said about the new range. Thank you for the excellent vid
Looking at the different colors shown they are indeed more vibrant but it seems most of them have little to no contrast especially the yellows seem completely flat. Might be my eyes, might be your lights but i certainly dont see much appeal in those new paints except being nicely vibrant and translucent and as such lend themselves well for blending and glazing.
Bingo, this goes against what the contrast range was supposed be. It was supposed to be a way for any painter, of any skill, to slap on some paint to a bunch of models and get them table top ready. Ninjon spending over /two hours/ on a single model using Contrast paints is anathema to the idea. Not than I'm blaming Jon, because he's been told by Citadel/GW to sell these paints this way.
A proper review would have been spending that 2.5 hours painting a full BOX of Marines and getting a good result.
Problem is, I have literally zero issues with Citadel creating new tools for any painter out there, but contrast was sold as a one stop product for people who didn't have the time/ability/interest in meticulously painting a full army. They could buy a box set, get a handful of paints, throw them on at ANY ability and get a good finished product. It's not gonna win Golden Daemons but it was a finished result and looks infinitely better than a grey army on the table top.
Yep....I think these contrast paint releases were a response to Army Painter's huge lineup of speed paints.
@@wvjeepguy8178 If GW churned out the new contrast line at that speed, I'd be amazed.
It's more likely they started during or right after the release of the first line, basically at the same time as Army Painter probably started working on speed paints.
@@Pembolog What contrast was marketed as and how it's intended to be used have never been quite the same thing. Contrast is basically a more strongly pigmented wash in my experience, and even GW's own videos never literally stop at applying a layer of contrast and calling it a day - even for battle ready models there is always at least a highlight step. Used 'as marketed' the less transparent contrast paints combine a layer and a shade, but they're never going to remove the need for highlighting and if - as Jon does here - you want specific recess shading in a different tone you'll need that too. The model he produced here wasn't amazing, but it also wasn't 'first time painter' quality and was probably slightly better than what GW markets as 'battle ready' - you can get decent results with a bit less than this.
It also varies how effective it is by model, and despite GW's obsession with using Space Marines to market everything Marines aren't the best models to show off contrast paints - while they do have nice clean recesses they have too many large expanses of armour that need a smooth coat, and getting a smooth coat with anything is going to take time. Likely part of the reason for the emphasis on greens, browns and flesh tones in the first range is that organic-looking models are much more suitable for contrast - skin and wood are great for it.
@@philipbowles5397 so much this. Jon isn’t trying to get a 15 minute whole marine result here. He likely spent more time than that just on the chipping effect. His example is something a lot closer to a box art marine because he’s a talented painter painting the way he paints. I don’t think he’s ever really applied contrast in the speediest manner the medium handles well, and that’s in a really thick coat. See Juan Hidalgo’s video on how that works. Jon’s honestly a little too afraid of a mistake to go that heavy - it’s not really that big of a deal to fix a mistake. His buddy Vince makes a few mistakes on purpose in his contrast video and fixes them with little worry. It’s just paint. You can’t ruin anything.
There’s still no doubt you can slap this around on a light undershade and get a tabletop result on a single dude quickly. That’s just the nature of using an undershade (helps a lot of it is a value sketch) and any transparent media to let the undershade do a lot of the work. People aren’t taking into account how much work the bright white is doing in every one of these sneak peaks. You’ll see it later when not every video available is laying it on nothing but bright dead white.
When I saw the Garagaks sewer and the Burgundy I was blown away, was great when you also mentioned them later in the vid!
I'm curious about the issue of reactivating the paint after. There has been a lot of issues with the army painter range for that, which kind of ties you into contrast paint only. Do these have the same issue?
Planning to use that dark blue through an airbrush for my Night Lords Horus Heresy army. Think it should work perfectly.
Great in depth review!
Great video! thanks for the info.
Very informative, thanks!
Really liked the Model you painted.
this is great and I love your work. Thank you.
Informative and entertaining! Thank you.
Thank you for these insights.
the quality of paint coverage of some of the new colors is really impressive.
would love to see a future vid comparing the single pigment contrasts in this set to homemade contrasts using Kimera & medium
Hope you had a good time in the UK!
i like this new contrast, in particular yellow,in general after see the new palette i open my mind on contrast paint
I look forward to trying it out.
Been thinking about painting something yellow. Might run one of these yellow contrasts through the airbrush then build from there
I know I’m late to the party as far as contrast 2.0 hype is concerned, but in Pete the war gamer’s video he shows that pylar glacier is actually an amazing paint for creating ice effects. It should be under technical, or at least give an explanation on the label for what it’s used for, but that’s why it’s useful. Classic GW
My goodness! 27 new paints AND 7 shades. GW have actually outdone themselves on this one! I haven't really been using that many contrast paints to be honest but many of these look amazing! I love my shades so these will be great to try out. As always I'm sure I'll be referring to this video in the future for reference purposes.
Pylar Glacier feels like a contrast mixer that adds a little blue to whatever contrast can take it, or it just takes another color from a contrast and thins it with blue while trying to maintain consistent viscosity.
Great video again!
I’m glad you pointed out the difficulty with contrasts; That they are very difficult to cover mistakes on. Making them counter intuitively, more of a pain in the arse for n00b painters.
Great shoot of Josh n Vinceny’V. 🤭
On one hand they are more annoying for us newbies in that respect. But 99% of the difficulty (for me at least) isn't in laying down the color within the lines. It's in knowing what colors to put where, and how to blend them, and how to highlight them, and where to highlight them, and what colors to pair them with etc etc etc. Contrasts do all of that for me. I am happy to spend some extra time making sure I make no mistakes laying the paint down. And if I make a mistake that's big enough, figuring out a way to make a chipped texture or scratches or something.
@@chlawl574 Right. Contrast needs more precision (or tolerance for error - will people really notice the problem when the mini is on a table a meter away from their eyes?), but less... artistry, I guess you could call it.
I could totally see using Pylar Glacier when painting something that could have an ice or water elemental feel to it
Thx! You saved me money for a while - until I get better I'll stick with the classic paints and start experiment with these ones here and there in a year or so.
That Magmadroth Flame paint looks amazing. I think I've found a colour for my space marines.
Great review!
Will you be posting some photos of the minis painted? Always nice to have some handy reference shots within easy reach. :)
Really excited to see what I can conjure up with these =D
Useful video, thank you.
Thank you very much for this awesome video!
Very curious about this as well, especially as someone new to the hobby. But I also want to learn other ways to paint.
Great video...I am looking forward to the yellow, brown and purple
Thanks for showing Gharaghaks Sewer in action - very interested in that one
Thanks for this!
They look good I'll probably pick some up, anything to make painting less of a chore.
Great video as always, you say the paint isn't forgiving what if you had painted on the dark blue first so you could touch up any mistakes with primer then put down the yellow after? I know it isn't a perfect solution but it might make it a little easier to keep clean lines between the 2 colors.
Hi, thx for the very informative video. How strong are the difference when used over zentinal highlights?
I wonder whether you could apply a coat of sealer after finishing each colour, to protect that colour from possible mistakes with the next colour?
That burgundy one is going to be awesome for Blood Ravens!
My go to for painting yellow is a transparent yellow over pink base color. I really want to know how that will look when using the new contrast paint.
I dont know how often you read comments- but your channel has come a really long way keep it up! I dont know if youve already down a video on this but itd be really cool to learn how to do environmental effects (like glow) interacting with models and their shading.
Subbed because the "sky boat load" joke was so dumb it made me laugh out loud