This is dangerously close to one of those professional reviews you would expect from What Car? or Top Gear in 2002 before they went all giddy with the fame. Had the last film not been so fast moving and chaotic I might have missed the fast moving chaos, but as it is I have enjoyed the informative, well presented and hard won insight into the Rover 75. You’ve done a much better job than Paddy out of Max and Paddy, but he’s the one that is always on the telly and probably has the most expensive house in Bolton and not you. Life just doesn’t make sense at times. I bought a new hat today, but now I’ve got it home I’m not as sure I will wear it as I was in the hatters, though calling it a hatters is really overstating JD Sports.
Imagine Paul on Top Gear… This is the new Peugeot 90002 and to test it, what I’ve done is stripped it into its component pieces and I’m going to be storing them in this shed for 20 years before trailering them off to be weighed in. Back to the studio…’
Very honest review from someone with plenty of experience. Making people aware of the problems isn't scare mongering, it's avoiding buyers being bankrupted! I had a V-reg 75 Connoisseur 2.5 V6 auto, all the nice early model Cowley built bits inc very cool Rover logo in the front headrests, real wood etc , but I was thoroughly underwhelmed. Shocked by the lack of go and the terrible fuel consumption I sold it within weeks.
I would like to thank you for this video. I was looking to buy a small executive car on a budget & came across a Rover 75. I thought why not consider it & take a look. After-all my grandad was a Rover dealer and my Father always drove Rovers so why not keep it in the family. While on the train to see said car I came across your video which I found engaging, informative and humoured me. It gave me all the knowledge to look around the car. Remembering you said check for leaks I pulled up the carpet in the boot and there was a huge roughly cut piece of MDF. I thought it can't have come from the factory like that, and behold underneath there was a paddling pool of water sloshing about. It looked like a previous owner had re-sealed the underside of the car not knowing where any leaks came from, and all it achieved in doing was imitating a Rover 75 shaped bathtub. Shame because I wanted to like it and those doors open & close with such authority. Cheers Project Nigel
@@ProjectNigel I'm still on the lookout & not fully discounted them just yet, I spotted a Cowley car (again something I learned from your videos) in Bradford for £600. Also looking at Jags & Saabs etc.
I'm in the former colony of Australia, bought a 2002 Connoisseur 10 months ago and not had any of the issues you agonise over...sure if you buy a classic banger, as you call them over there, yeah you deserve what you get. Otherwise, apart from a few idiosyncrancies that all cars have anyway, if you keep on top of maintenance and treat is respectfully,.......well, our Connie is a beautiful vehicle and always draws attention.
Enjoyed this. Cupla points from down under. MGR was forced to delete the drivers side cupholder for safety reasons. So in their defence they weren't being cheap. If lucky you can find one. Bonnet junction is fixed by flipping it over in its holder. Boot latch is fixed by simply turning the rubber stops. Interesting that none of the corrosion fails apply to cars here. It never rains. But we have heat related issues. Brittle plastics etc. I still don't know how to buy Nigel stickers or merch. Cheers.
I had 2001 rover 75 v6 2.0 the suspension was gone but then the engine sounded like there was a tin of n screws shaking about.. scrapped £150.. I paid £250 purchase price for Y137 TOH.. It cost me £300 mot wise. I am sure I valeted these TOH cars in a Rugby car wash. 2nd car mental electrical gremlins 52 1.8 T scrapped £100 Purchase price was £460 for BL52 LVH beautiful looking car I then went into buying Ford Mondeo's Graphite came first and 2nd Titanium 2.2 TDCI. One day I will get another 75 but I love estate cars. Currently looking at Rolls Royce Silver Spur not while I live in council 1 bed flat lol...
So a Rover 75 with some rot issues in the rear end, slightly rotten on the front end, and rotting sills, broken window switches, door glass that doesn't go up or down, a leaking sun roof or windscreen, floppy door cards and saggy headlining, broken cup holders, worn out droplinks, non functioning bonnet and boot release, and dodgy head gaskets...is it still a good purchase Mustard?. I would like a pre face lift 75 in black, but with a V8...I could live with the pain at the petrol pump were the V8s only in the face lifted 75s Mustard?.
Good information video on what to look out for on a 75 by Mr Mustard. An honest review by a man that knows through experience and a rover enthusiast to boot. The suspension issue to me was very enlightening it's as if BMW made sure they sabotaged the 75. Is there a fix though to replace the shoddy Beamer parts?
You will have to test drive/review my Cowley built PPD 75 1.8 - it has had new rear springs and dampers, new drop links, one new front damper, and new rear lower arm bushes at the front - so doesn't bang/clang over bumps at all. At under 83000 miles it's nicely run in too!
Great review. Ive had my diesel auto for 4 years now and its been a great car. It had a remap a few years before I owned it so its quite quick. Although its a facelift its had a few PPD items added back which is a nice touch.
Fab. Totally agree on your conclusion. 😅 had a 03 diesel auto estate, in the end the emissions what killed that car. Replacement to that is currently my 02 53 plate diesel estate, manual sadly
There's one more, HUGE issue with the KV6 engines - the VIS system and Inlet Manifold. If your VIS motors break, that's not a big problem - you can fix them or buy new ones - they're still on the market, but if your Manifold breaks (and it will)... That's a big problem cause they're unavailable and even if you find one - it costs some nightmarish money... You can't fix them too cause they're all plastic. There are more issues that Nigel didn't mention and overall - getting 75/ZT has to be a really well thought buy...
As a recent owner of a beautiful 2005 3 series e46. I can confirm that BMWs are woefully unreliable. I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the BMW bits on rover 75’s
dangit, I desperately don't want to want a 75 Tourer diesel auto and have felt that way since they brought em out. Now I even more desperately don't want to want a 75 tourer diesel auto, and we're just in the stage of looking for a 2nd (3rd) car. My only hope is Road Fund licence is extortionate.
Whilst I prefer the 75 I agree the 600 is the most overlooked good car from Rover. What a shame they never built a 600 Tourer as the lines of the car could have blended well into an estate body.
I had a 2.5v6 160 mk1 for 7 years. Brilliant car. I now have a 2.5v6 190 mk2 (for sale btw) and again brilliant 2005 61000 miles and it is as fast as hell I must have had 2 that don't conform to anything you have said
I've looked into this youtube carry on its Google ads that pay you not google and in my opinion you need to smash many more videos out to get a good rate from the advertising stream so it's google that pays and converts your dollar rate into gbp youtube is only a platform is that right paul or have I misunderstood what I've read
Have always said the 75 tourer auto diesel was the best and with one of my remaps giving 160bhp and with the auto box changing where the power band is to where you can actually use it gave great mpg. Load space was better than small vans. Awesome cars.
Basically if you can't fix the car your self then it's going to be expensive garage bills 😂🤣 another rover you don't see many off because they have been scrapped poor quality build by rover be interesting if you did the same thing about Charlotte church
Ridiculous summary. The 75 is in classic territory - with the youngest being 19 years old. So the premise that you need to buy the most 'reliable' diesel is silly (also ignoring that the M47 has plenty of issues that you didnt mention). As a long term classic car proposition, which the 75s are for the majority of people who aren't UA-camrs, the petrols are the best. They're quieter, smoother, have purity in that they are ROVER engines, and perhaps most importantl, petrols are far more future proofed than diesels are. Enter most big cities with a 75 diesel and you'll have to pay for the privilege. This will only get worse...
Additionally, the earlier Longbridge 75s are regarded by the overall best built. They don't suffer as much from the rot that the Cowley cars do and haven't lost the nice materials used in the Cowley cars. Unfortunately people get confused between build quality and perceived quality.
I’ve got two and a ZT and they’re no more expensive to maintain than any other car of its size/age. Any old car requires repair but that’s more than offset against depreciation of a new car.
I had three Rover 75s and apart from the know issues that were easily resolved. They were lovely cars and no more expensive to maintain than other cars
This is dangerously close to one of those professional reviews you would expect from What Car? or Top Gear in 2002 before they went all giddy with the fame. Had the last film not been so fast moving and chaotic I might have missed the fast moving chaos, but as it is I have enjoyed the informative, well presented and hard won insight into the Rover 75. You’ve done a much better job than Paddy out of Max and Paddy, but he’s the one that is always on the telly and probably has the most expensive house in Bolton and not you. Life just doesn’t make sense at times. I bought a new hat today, but now I’ve got it home I’m not as sure I will wear it as I was in the hatters, though calling it a hatters is really overstating JD Sports.
Imagine Paul on Top Gear…
This is the new Peugeot 90002 and to test it, what I’ve done is stripped it into its component pieces and I’m going to be storing them in this shed for 20 years before trailering them off to be weighed in. Back to the studio…’
Probably the best buying guide on rover 75
I've always wanted a 75. Thank you for this. Very very useful.
That felt like an awful lot of effort for you to go through to tell Boaty that Fred the Shed's going nowhere 😉
Very honest review from someone with plenty of experience. Making people aware of the problems isn't scare mongering, it's avoiding buyers being bankrupted!
I had a V-reg 75 Connoisseur 2.5 V6 auto, all the nice early model Cowley built bits inc very cool Rover logo in the front headrests, real wood etc , but I was thoroughly underwhelmed. Shocked by the lack of go and the terrible fuel consumption I sold it within weeks.
I would like to thank you for this video. I was looking to buy a small executive car on a budget & came across a Rover 75. I thought why not consider it & take a look. After-all my grandad was a Rover dealer and my Father always drove Rovers so why not keep it in the family.
While on the train to see said car I came across your video which I found engaging, informative and humoured me. It gave me all the knowledge to look around the car. Remembering you said check for leaks I pulled up the carpet in the boot and there was a huge roughly cut piece of MDF. I thought it can't have come from the factory like that, and behold underneath there was a paddling pool of water sloshing about. It looked like a previous owner had re-sealed the underside of the car not knowing where any leaks came from, and all it achieved in doing was imitating a Rover 75 shaped bathtub.
Shame because I wanted to like it and those doors open & close with such authority.
Cheers Project Nigel
They're not all bad
@@ProjectNigel I'm still on the lookout & not fully discounted them just yet, I spotted a Cowley car (again something I learned from your videos) in Bradford for £600. Also looking at Jags & Saabs etc.
Planning on buying one for my first car
I have a early 99 pewter grey auberghine interior 2.5 v6 automatic. Love it but like you said, i is heavy on fuel. Have it for 8 years now.
Having owned three project drive 75s and now a Cowley 2.5 75 i totally agree with you on the build quality of the early cars being so much better.
That’s one hell of a sales pitch for your own 75 tourer
I'm in the former colony of Australia, bought a 2002 Connoisseur 10 months ago and not had any of the issues you agonise over...sure if you buy a classic banger, as you call them over there, yeah you deserve what you get. Otherwise, apart from a few idiosyncrancies that all cars have anyway, if you keep on top of maintenance and treat is respectfully,.......well, our Connie is a beautiful vehicle and always draws attention.
British roads are not looked after, and suspensions suffer because of it. Plus, there's the winter, salt on the roads, and precipitation.
Enjoyed this. Cupla points from down under. MGR was forced to delete the drivers side cupholder for safety reasons. So in their defence they weren't being cheap. If lucky you can find one. Bonnet junction is fixed by flipping it over in its holder. Boot latch is fixed by simply turning the rubber stops. Interesting that none of the corrosion fails apply to cars here. It never rains. But we have heat related issues. Brittle plastics etc.
I still don't know how to buy Nigel stickers or merch. Cheers.
I had 2001 rover 75 v6 2.0 the suspension was gone but then the engine sounded like there was a tin of n screws shaking about.. scrapped £150.. I paid £250 purchase price for Y137 TOH.. It cost me £300 mot wise. I am sure I valeted these TOH cars in a Rugby car wash.
2nd car mental electrical gremlins 52 1.8 T scrapped £100 Purchase price was £460 for BL52 LVH beautiful looking car
I then went into buying Ford Mondeo's Graphite came first and 2nd Titanium 2.2 TDCI.
One day I will get another 75 but I love estate cars.
Currently looking at Rolls Royce Silver Spur not while I live in council 1 bed flat lol...
What a spiffing little guide. ❤
So a Rover 75 with some rot issues in the rear end, slightly rotten on the front end, and rotting sills, broken window switches, door glass that doesn't go up or down, a leaking sun roof or windscreen, floppy door cards and saggy headlining, broken cup holders, worn out droplinks, non functioning bonnet and boot release, and dodgy head gaskets...is it still a good purchase Mustard?. I would like a pre face lift 75 in black, but with a V8...I could live with the pain at the petrol pump were the V8s only in the face lifted 75s Mustard?.
Good information video on what to look out for on a 75 by Mr Mustard. An honest review by a man that knows through experience and a rover enthusiast to boot. The suspension issue to me was very enlightening it's as if BMW made sure they sabotaged the 75. Is there a fix though to replace the shoddy Beamer parts?
You will have to test drive/review my Cowley built PPD 75 1.8 - it has had new rear springs and dampers, new drop links, one new front damper, and new rear lower arm bushes at the front - so doesn't bang/clang over bumps at all. At under 83000 miles it's nicely run in too!
I would had I not done loads of 75 stuff 😆
@@ProjectNigel Ah, you'll be back when you are struggling for content!! 🤣🤣🤣
My early Longbridge '02 1.8 Saloon clocked 197,000 miles on Friday.........which was nice.
Great review. Ive had my diesel auto for 4 years now and its been a great car. It had a remap a few years before I owned it so its quite quick. Although its a facelift its had a few PPD items added back which is a nice touch.
Fab. Totally agree on your conclusion. 😅 had a 03 diesel auto estate, in the end the emissions what killed that car. Replacement to that is currently my 02 53 plate diesel estate, manual sadly
After that run down of all the minus points Paul im glad I've got a Rover 46 and 25!!
There's one more, HUGE issue with the KV6 engines - the VIS system and Inlet Manifold. If your VIS motors break, that's not a big problem - you can fix them or buy new ones - they're still on the market, but if your Manifold breaks (and it will)... That's a big problem cause they're unavailable and even if you find one - it costs some nightmarish money... You can't fix them too cause they're all plastic. There are more issues that Nigel didn't mention and overall - getting 75/ZT has to be a really well thought buy...
Good point
Had mine for about ten years so far. M
As a recent owner of a beautiful 2005 3 series e46. I can confirm that BMWs are woefully unreliable. I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the BMW bits on rover 75’s
Having until recently owned an E91 for 8 years I can confirm that like any car, if looked after BMWs can be extremely reliable.
dangit, I desperately don't want to want a 75 Tourer diesel auto and have felt that way since they brought em out. Now I even more desperately don't want to want a 75 tourer diesel auto, and we're just in the stage of looking for a 2nd (3rd) car. My only hope is Road Fund licence is extortionate.
I saw one 2.0 diesel facelift with 360 000km, i'm hesitating 😭
Such a stylish body !
Interesting. I've learned a lot. Guess I'll buy an Oldsmobile instead 👀😦😦😛😜!!
The rover 75 was most regarded as the best car rover ever made. I tend to disagree I like the 600 best
The 600 was definitely their best made car
Whilst I prefer the 75 I agree the 600 is the most overlooked good car from Rover. What a shame they never built a 600 Tourer as the lines of the car could have blended well into an estate body.
17:08 Brilliant! 😂
😅
TV beckons for you.
Seriously get yourself an agent!
UA-cam is the new TV 😆
@@ProjectNigel not the same money though!…
Your right however, I don’t watch TV anymore, your “show” and two others are my main weekly viewing 😆
I had a 2.5v6 160 mk1 for 7 years. Brilliant car.
I now have a 2.5v6 190 mk2 (for sale btw) and again brilliant 2005 61000 miles and it is as fast as hell
I must have had 2 that don't conform to anything you have said
I've looked into this youtube carry on its Google ads that pay you not google and in my opinion you need to smash many more videos out to get a good rate from the advertising stream so it's google that pays and converts your dollar rate into gbp youtube is only a platform is that right paul or have I misunderstood what I've read
I can't quite manage a video every day anymore. .
Have always said the 75 tourer auto diesel was the best and with one of my remaps giving 160bhp and with the auto box changing where the power band is to where you can actually use it gave great mpg. Load space was better than small vans. Awesome cars.
A beautiful, but treacherous, expensive Jezebel
Another no-nonsense non BS review, project drive cars were cheapened a great deal over the lovely original design.
That was unmustard like. But very informative non the less. I knew it was all about Fred 😂
It still had plenty of Mustard in there 😊
cool vid
❤❤👍👍😎😎
So in summary it's a piece or shite
Basically if you can't fix the car your self then it's going to be expensive garage bills 😂🤣 another rover you don't see many off because they have been scrapped poor quality build by rover be interesting if you did the same thing about Charlotte church
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Ridiculous summary. The 75 is in classic territory - with the youngest being 19 years old. So the premise that you need to buy the most 'reliable' diesel is silly (also ignoring that the M47 has plenty of issues that you didnt mention). As a long term classic car proposition, which the 75s are for the majority of people who aren't UA-camrs, the petrols are the best. They're quieter, smoother, have purity in that they are ROVER engines, and perhaps most importantl, petrols are far more future proofed than diesels are. Enter most big cities with a 75 diesel and you'll have to pay for the privilege. This will only get worse...
Additionally, the earlier Longbridge 75s are regarded by the overall best built. They don't suffer as much from the rot that the Cowley cars do and haven't lost the nice materials used in the Cowley cars. Unfortunately people get confused between build quality and perceived quality.
🇬🇧🇩🇪 Car 🦮75 🥺🤣🤣
Don’t buy a rover 75 🎉🍺🍺🍺🍺
I’ve got two and a ZT and they’re no more expensive to maintain than any other car of its size/age. Any old car requires repair but that’s more than offset against depreciation of a new car.
I had three Rover 75s and apart from the know issues that were easily resolved. They were lovely cars and no more expensive to maintain than other cars