With all the dunking on Elon/Elon Fanboy content here on UA-cam, I tried to make this video fair and balanced. Also, thank you to all of you who supported me in the comments and who subscribed. When I started my first UA-cam channel at age 12 I always dreamed of hitting 10k subs. Now, it looks like we might just do exactly that! -Lukas
IMHO the video would be more objective if it actually concentrated on facts. The content heavily relies on unsubstantiated opinions and presumptions by others. Even if the quoted person has some general domain knowledge, they may be very wrong if they aren’t actually reviewing real data.
Multipla: the worst rental ever (plane late, last available rental left and dead of the night). Worse than busted Astra with several thousand 10 km in odometer and suspension issues Stuttgart airport to East.
Europe won't want it, we use vans, not peni-- I mean, pickup-trucks. In the USA a pickup truck is like a status symbol for those who never use the bed. It's an image they go for, a rugged look, even though they could do with a car half the price and half the size. Plus, it kinda looks cooler than a van, which has a stigma for being used by child abductors I guess. Europe is more practical: vans can transport more things and keep them dry and keep them safe, while making the drive much cheaper.
Talk for yourself. I can understand if you live in London or Paris etc a small SUV is better. But not all Europe is like that. Here in Sweden people love pickups.
Yeah Europe doesn't drive trucks because your politicians want you paying $6/gallon for gas. Here in Texas its $2.50/gallon and we consider that high. It will go down when Trump gets back in office and we can start the drilling again. Trucks are way more versatile then vans. Not only can I transport more large/heavy items then a van in my F150 but I can also tow twice the weight as any van. In closing USA, USA, USA!!!!!
@@txDDS Most "trucks" in the USA have beds that are hauling just the dust they collect when being parked in your humongous parking lots most of the time. But that last line is a fair point. I wish you many more years of Donald Trump! I've already practiced Russian for when I visit the USA next. It will come in handy when Putin's lapdog smears his orange face paint onto the Oval Office's windows again.
I was hoping someone would come out with a video like this. I feel it's incredible unlikely it's going to make it to Europe with these specs. It'd be an alien vehicle here
When I repatriated to Germany after living in the United States, one of things I had to do was to transfer my driver's licence from Colorado to German one. German driver's licence Class B allows up to 3.5 ton and up to nine passengers. Colorado licence allows up to 14.5 tons so I am allowed to keep both licences in Germany.
Until it's been tested, we don't know, and that's unlikely to happen in Europe as it would have to be downrated to 3.5t permissible gross weight or imported as a commercial, for which the regs are different. I think the heaviest we've seen for volume sales was a 2.75t Range Rover (if anyone knows different, I'm sure they'll let us know) which left just 750kg (1650 lbs) for passengers and cargo. The CT is even more limited. We do have the odd imported Ram or Silverado in the UK so I'd expect a few CTs might come as personal imports but not in enough numbers to have any statistical effect regardless of the safety. Also: how effective are the onboard crash prevention systems? I'd rather not get hit by a CT than be hit by Ford Transit.
I'm not worried about that crapbox hitting me because the suspension will break running over a road reflector lol, look at that 35mph crash test and how the rear axle snaps
It will never be available in Europe Teslas VP of engineering already talked about this It will never pass EU safety pedestrian laws Even MKBHD explained this
Hey, as always love the content! Thanks for the shout out, sorry for making u say that hahaha. Love the story telling and the data u showed in the video. The editing of the video since the last is better, its really clear when you are showing "just nice stuff" and when it is actual facts, love how u show the reaction of other content creators and made a comparison with those! Hope to see more content like this in the future. And as always hope everyone has an amazing day! ❤
The USA has a simply awful pedestrian safety record over the last decade or more. In 2023, pedestrian fatalities reached a 41 year high, with an 80% increase since 2010. A lot of this comes down to the massive growth in the type of vehicles that are popular in the US market. Huge trucks and SUVs with high hoods, poor visibility of pedestrians and massive weight. The Cybetruck is part of that trend, and has very unforgiving stainless body panels with sharp, rigid edges. All the reviews say that it's got awful visibility both front and, of course, back too.
The size should be no problem at all. For German craftsmen the equivalent to the Pick Up is the Van...and a Standard vehicle in this field is' the Mercedes Sprinter. The Most Common is' the medium size, which is' 6m long. (Cybertruck 5,7m) so it'' a foot longer and does not have Fourwheel wheel steering.
Also..with Class C driving licence in EU, you need tachograph in the car and card to operate it. This limits how much you can drive the vehicle, orders you to have a mandatory breaks etc.. There is no way around it, CT is simply not possible as a daily driver here
Here we can drive it with regular class B driving license. Its only 3.1 metric tons. But 2.4m width is very limiting in European cities. Even with my 2.27m width Model X I have to be very careful and sometimes close the mirrors to go thru underground garage doors, etc.
@@ytmacskas 3,1t empty. If you register as 3,5t total that's 400kg allowance for passengers and luggage. With 4 seats that leaves no weight for actual cargo in the bed. It will not be able to serve as an actual pickup with no weight allowance for actually carrying anything.
There's also the EU class C1 driving licence that allows vehicles up to 7500kg, Cybertruck most likely falls under that same way as the MB Sprinter's Extra Long variant. Also, Tachometer is not required in vehicles driven with C1 class licence in non-commercial use and in short range delivery services (50km/31mi) as per EC:561/2006
@@mikkojk83 sure, that's still a commercial license which very few people will take for no reason. And it doesn't let you tow anything which is really the point of a pickup. For transporting things in the vehicle a van will carry more, and protect it from both weather and theft. And a van is cheaper to buy, cheaper to drive, and easier to manouver than most pickups i've tested. If you want to tow 3,5t regularly Though? Pickup and BE license is the way to go. But then a pickup that can actually carry a load as well as the trailer seems a lot more efficient.
FyI: The race with the Porsche trailing another Porsche must be Fake or obviously advantagious set up for the CT. Tesla has in best case a little more than double the hp of the smallest Porsche. But the CT has only about double the power. As you are aware that in drag races weight must be "overcompensated" with power. In other words: Double the weight needs much more than double the power to achieve the sam drag time. My best guess: the Porsche is the cheapest one, having a driver shifting pretty bad manually. And the Porsche on the trailer ist striped down without any interiour and w/o the the drivetrain.
I'm always for innovative desiigns. I always find cars looking the same as 15 years ago with minor changes. But man, really hard to like this model when you see how many prolems it will cause for ppl outside of the damn car. It doesn't help that concept of the cybertruck with rounded edges look way more futuristic than this.
What I’m missing in the vid is more information about the safety of the passengers in the truck, shouldn’t they be at a higher risk too since the car has less crumple zones?
As I say the Cybertruck has been tested by Tesla internally and NHTSA in order to be street legal but there is no public information/data on how safe it actually is for passengers. I expect results from independent testers to be published in the next couple of weeks.
Aidriver has made a video where he showed a video of the crumple zone of the cybertruck vs other pickups (in the same test) and it actually is barely any different
Actually UN/ECE-127 (Pedestrian safety) seems passable depending where Cybertruck's odd form puts test impact points for pedestrian simulation devices. Pedestrian leg tests are most challence, not head (unless sharp corners are included and if the metal sheet bends enough). Anyways it will be very, very low score, if Cybertruck passes Euro NCAP. But UN/ECE-27 (External projections) is even more likely regulation where Cybertruck will fail.
I am definitely looking towards real tests as well - until then there will be loads of speculation. I might do an update video once we have several public safety test results/scores.
The Cybertruck stainless steel styling is not what’s illegal in Europe it’s the steer by wire technology. Currently a vehicle with no mechanical connection from the steering wheel to the steering mechanism is what’s illegal not the angular stainless steel styling.
That crash test photo is funny, because it's not the same tests. Tesla did a full head on test, while the others did a "half"? Don't know the term, sorry.
Der Test war nicht der gleiche gegen eine Niedrige Mauer war der Cybertruck sogar ziemlich gut und eines der Sichersten Trucks da draußen überraschenderweise
Somehow talking about a "standard EU-driver license" and showing Châteaux de Chillion at the same time made me laugh... Not that Swiss driver licenses would differ so much, but still... not EU! When it comes to crash comparison, Thunderfoot made a video where he compared it with the same test on another pick up truck.
True, but what counts for drivers license classifications is the so called "gross vehicle weight rating” and not the actual weight of the truck. It’s the weight plus assumed cargo and passengers. In the US, Tesla itself classified that rating as "Class G" for the lightest version (greater than 3629 kg to 4082 kg (8,001-9,000 lbs.)) This is the same rating European regulation would use. The empty truck however does indeed "only" weigh 3.1 tons.
Cars are to drive safely for the passingers, pamel gaps are a srupid crtic point, eurepe rules are beyong stupid, in erope mado is, lets make cars out of cake.
I am a big Tesla fan, but also not blind or stupid. First thing I thought when I saw cyber truck and learn about exoskeleton body (that is not present in final version tho) was that it absolutely useless for crash safety. If you are in indestructible metal box and crash, you become juice. Anyone you'd hit becomes juice as well. The crumple zones and soft bumpers are installed on cars for a reason. And even tho the final truck does not have the exoskeleton, and only uses metal panels on aluminum body, it will still wreck havoc in any crash. Especially the sharp side panels. It's basically driving with two knives at the front.
But usually you don´t crash into immovable object, especially not with such an heavy vehicle. So the crumbling and absorbtion of energy will take place, just not on your car but the thing you hit. The other car will then have a clean imprint of the Cyber trucks shape :D
The Cybertruck would not fit the roads of the cities of Amsterdam, London or Paris. In my city and street the maximum parking width is 180 centimeters or just shy of 6 feet. A Cybertruck of 240 cm wide would block the street when parked.
Well my neighbor has a Dodge Ram Van. He parks it partly on the sidewalks. Is a Ram Van smaller than a Cybertruck? If I would drive this thing in Amsterdam I would be super scared to kill someone. 0-100 km p/h in 3 seconds with a weight of 3 tons sounds insane to me. I do like the bold look of the car. I understand it’s not for everyone but I like things that are different than others. I hope it will be released in the EU with some modifications making it safe to drive here.
We have a new first choice for egostitical misanthrops when it comes to cars. If the life and safety of other people counts nothing, if owning a car that doesn't excessively infringe on the freedoms of others in an urban setting means nothing... congratulations, the Cybertruck is for you.
@@aitorbleda8267 I am not a ware that the F250 has sharp steel panel corners on the front edges of the car. Also the geometry seems to be even worse at the Cybertruck where the driver from what I have seen so far has even a worse view towards the lower front road view, ie where children will be in case accident threats. I am not saying that F250 in an urban environment isn't asocial, merely that the Cybertruck manages to be even worse, on top of being the opposite of sustainable (but that's indeed a common feature of most oversized pickup trucks).
@@aitorbleda8267 Sure, that too, but are you telling me that perpendicularly bent thick metal sheets are going to give in, the way a front of a car should, in case of a crash?
@@sagichnicht6748 Maybe yes, probably not. On a f150/250 you would have a wall. Even worse, plus the driver won't see you. These vehicles, and all vehicles should follow the direct vision standard, at least three stars. That would ban most pickup trucks, and for good reasons. As for the Tesla.. it is terrible but not the worst. It only gets hate because of Musk.
I live in Colorado in the western US, drive a small and fuel efficient car as little as possible. I prefer to walk or ride my bicycle. I am already threatened by huge pickup trucks every time I leave the house. Now we have this techbro apocalypse truck to avoid. Is the cost of leaving your home now a race to buy the most destructive vehicle in your neighborhood?
0:00 Tell me you have no idea how a crashed vehicle should look without telling me how a crashed vehicle should look. (obviously not you Mind The Map).
The European market has never been a target for big SUVs and pickup trucks. I really doubt tesla will ever create a different version of the Cybertruck just for that market. It is not worth it at all. as for the dangers of the design when it comes to pedestrians and other vehicles, well, if you see a Cybertruck, stay AWAY from it... unless you are driving one too. then just go and wave hi to the other driver. LOL
im european. Trucks in europe are either owned by actual farmers doing farm stuff, or people who have been deemed as arseholes by the whole society. If i see you have a clean truck, im 99.95% sure youre an arsehole. if your truck is muddy, youre hauling something etc, then i know its not your daily drive but you own it cause you need it.
It is possible to individually import and legally register Cybertruck in EU. It is a rather costly process which require modifications and individual approve, but it is basically the same as any other individual car import. Few of them already exists on EU plates.
I have seen a video of some in the UK but it might have been on private property/a race track. Curious if I will ever spot one myself here in Germany...
The Tesla Cyber truck will never be allowed on British roads All European roads have crash impact regulations that this truck will never meet it's also too big for Europe
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Considering the not insignificant amount of RAMs and even bloody Escalades I've seen in Europe, it seems like people who really want to terrorise some pedestrians will sadly still be able to do so. If European crash-test ratings are intentionally stronger than those in NA, then why is this loophole allowed?!
So you want to add explosives under the control of a sketchy not entirely working feature that regularly makes mistakes? Sure that's a good idea? And how would that even work with flat plates of steel?
@@danielstapler4315 the license classes in europe are dependant on valid maximum weight, not "empty" weight. A car like that with 300 kg vehicle payload is pretty hilarious. Even my 15 year old shitbox fiesta has over 400 kg vehicle payload.
I do not own a Cybertruck but looking at their site I can see the weight of the heaviest model is 3.1 t where did you get the information regarding the lightest model been 3.6t ?
What counts is the so called "gross vehicle weight rating” and not the actual weight of the truck. It’s the weight plus assumed cargo and passengers. In the US, Tesla itself classified that rating as "Class G" for the lightest version (greater than 3629 kg to 4082 kg (8,001-9,000 lbs.)) This is the same rating European regulation would use. The empty truck however does indeed "only" weigh 3.1 tons.
@@MindTheMapTesla could rate it whichever way, as a car the payload would just be limited. Similiar to what Ford does with the F-series trucks in the 3500kg category.
Honestly, CT should and will be US exclusive thing. Maybe some people will be able to import them into other countries (maybe even EU) Europe has its specific car culture (which is bad honestly, regulations are bad) and it isn't suitable with a company that makes cars mostly for US market and China
Yeah, in the EU cars are made to save both drivers, well as passengers and pedestrians from casualties instead of giving a bigger truck the upper hand. 😄
You can legally import one used and register it in many european countries, such as Ireland. You only have to pass a basic roadworthyness test, which wont consider things like panel rounding as those regluation only apply to vehicles sold new for the first time in the EU. Many US pickups without pedestrian safety certificates are registered in the UK. Carwow is importing a cybertruck into the UK and I'll bet he will be able to get it registered.
Indeed. This is a huge and honestly unacceptable loophole in driving regulations. Yes, he'll get it registred because he can evade demonstrating that the Cybertruck is safe for pedestrians, children, cyclists and pretty much anyone not sitting in another monster pickup truck. The question is, why is that even allowed?
@@sagichnicht6748 because the number of people who will go that far is so insignificantly low, that they do not pose a significant threat to public safety.
@@brinkipinkiThat argument doesn't convince me. I mean if we were talking about the one off oldtimer, maybe, but this car has a big fanbase, I can imagine there would be a substantial number of people going the extra mile to import extra deadly cars to Europe and drive them on public roads. I don't see the point why this should be allowed without a good reason.
@@sagichnicht6748 you underestimate the costs of this process and the legal difficulties of banning it for one car. For example, a prototype registration in Germany can cost well over 10k€ and several days of very intransparent of work. These kind of registrations are not a loophole. They are a pretty tedious process explicitely made to prevent what you are imagining. They are also not scalable. Add to that that the cybertruck would be legally considered a truck in the EU, with all the limitations trucks have over here. I really can't imagine there being more than a few hundred Cybertrucks in Europe and even less being regularly driven.
+10k for a 60k upwards vehicle don't sound like a big deal. I would assume that specialized importers will have the expertise to support interested buyers in that process effeciently @@brinkipinki The truck license is a bit of a larger obstacle as it means buyers will have to pass a driving license exam. Maybe you are right and that is enough to deterr most. Let's hope it is.
@@gtvgranberg What, the Transit Courier? The one that can get into multi storey car parks? Or do you mean the long wheel base double rear wheeled, Luton Bodied version?
@@kevinburke6743 i know nothing, transit is a cargo van. I'm in Sweden. Ford Transit is like VW transporter. If you don't buy a vw you buy a ford transit.
@@gtvgranberg A transit & a VW Transport are both Delivery Vans. Which is a whole different class of Vehicle. You have to compare Apples with apples. Pick up Trucks are the life blood of America & the most popular professional vehicle on the road.
Why would Tesla want to spend huge sums of money for the always-complaining Europeans who have a negligible demand for any kind of pick up truck? It makes no sense, and especially to have to deal with byzantine sets of likely mutually conflicting definitions of "street-legal" among the various EU countries.
And I just love how you manage to frame "basic protection for people existing" as always complaining. I guess that's why the US has double the death toll per km traveled compared to Germany for instance. Americans must really love getting c*cked by billionaires and multinationals.
With all the dunking on Elon/Elon Fanboy content here on UA-cam, I tried to make this video fair and balanced.
Also, thank you to all of you who supported me in the comments and who subscribed. When I started my first UA-cam channel at age 12 I always dreamed of hitting 10k subs. Now, it looks like we might just do exactly that! -Lukas
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Thank you, I will keep on going :)
IMHO the video would be more objective if it actually concentrated on facts. The content heavily relies on unsubstantiated opinions and presumptions by others. Even if the quoted person has some general domain knowledge, they may be very wrong if they aren’t actually reviewing real data.
Why starting out with hate for the Fiat Multipla? What an adorable lumpy monster that car was.
I actually really like the Fiat Multipla (it's an icon) but I think it is fair to say that many people consider it to be rather ugly!
That car is outstandingly ugly
Multipla: the worst rental ever (plane late, last available rental left and dead of the night). Worse than busted Astra with several thousand 10 km in odometer and suspension issues Stuttgart airport to East.
I liked the round light version, not the later square light one..
My brother had one, and called it the "F-ugly"! The F stood for Fiat, honest... 😂
My main concerns for the cyber Truck are
- not being able to see what is in front of you
- the safety of other road users Especially cyclists
One if not the best pickup in that respect. And still it is terrible, but most modern Pickups sold in the US should be banned.
@@aitorbleda8267 They "light trucks" for a reason and not pickups. They don't have the pickups regulations and such.
It has a lower and shorter hood than other trucks so visibility in front should be good
Iike most new cars it has AEB (automatic emergency braking) It detects pedestrians and bicicles.
Why is there no comping on the G-wagen? Its just as bad
Europe won't want it, we use vans, not peni-- I mean, pickup-trucks. In the USA a pickup truck is like a status symbol for those who never use the bed. It's an image they go for, a rugged look, even though they could do with a car half the price and half the size. Plus, it kinda looks cooler than a van, which has a stigma for being used by child abductors I guess. Europe is more practical: vans can transport more things and keep them dry and keep them safe, while making the drive much cheaper.
Talk for yourself. I can understand if you live in London or Paris etc a small SUV is better. But not all Europe is like that. Here in Sweden people love pickups.
@@mrm1885 Sweden is special, though. I mean that with love and not sarcasm. I'd love to live there and I'd also have a pick-up truck myself.
Yeah Europe doesn't drive trucks because your politicians want you paying $6/gallon for gas. Here in Texas its $2.50/gallon and we consider that high. It will go down when Trump gets back in office and we can start the drilling again. Trucks are way more versatile then vans. Not only can I transport more large/heavy items then a van in my F150 but I can also tow twice the weight as any van.
In closing USA, USA, USA!!!!!
@@txDDS Most "trucks" in the USA have beds that are hauling just the dust they collect when being parked in your humongous parking lots most of the time.
But that last line is a fair point. I wish you many more years of Donald Trump! I've already practiced Russian for when I visit the USA next. It will come in handy when Putin's lapdog smears his orange face paint onto the Oval Office's windows again.
@@mrm1885 Sweden is a special kid in the class like greta thunberg
I was hoping someone would come out with a video like this. I feel it's incredible unlikely it's going to make it to Europe with these specs. It'd be an alien vehicle here
When I repatriated to Germany after living in the United States, one of things I had to do was to transfer my driver's licence from Colorado to German one. German driver's licence Class B allows up to 3.5 ton and up to nine passengers. Colorado licence allows up to 14.5 tons so I am allowed to keep both licences in Germany.
You got a C or CE? No tests?
Until it's been tested, we don't know, and that's unlikely to happen in Europe as it would have to be downrated to 3.5t permissible gross weight or imported as a commercial, for which the regs are different.
I think the heaviest we've seen for volume sales was a 2.75t Range Rover (if anyone knows different, I'm sure they'll let us know) which left just 750kg (1650 lbs) for passengers and cargo. The CT is even more limited.
We do have the odd imported Ram or Silverado in the UK so I'd expect a few CTs might come as personal imports but not in enough numbers to have any statistical effect regardless of the safety.
Also: how effective are the onboard crash prevention systems? I'd rather not get hit by a CT than be hit by Ford Transit.
I'm not worried about that crapbox hitting me because the suspension will break running over a road reflector lol, look at that 35mph crash test and how the rear axle snaps
It has rear wheel streeing so there is not even an axle that could snap
It will never be available in Europe
Teslas VP of engineering already talked about this
It will never pass EU safety pedestrian laws
Even MKBHD explained this
Hey, as always love the content! Thanks for the shout out, sorry for making u say that hahaha. Love the story telling and the data u showed in the video. The editing of the video since the last is better, its really clear when you are showing "just nice stuff" and when it is actual facts, love how u show the reaction of other content creators and made a comparison with those! Hope to see more content like this in the future. And as always hope everyone has an amazing day! ❤
Thank you as always, glad to have your support!
The USA has a simply awful pedestrian safety record over the last decade or more. In 2023, pedestrian fatalities reached a 41 year high, with an 80% increase since 2010. A lot of this comes down to the massive growth in the type of vehicles that are popular in the US market. Huge trucks and SUVs with high hoods, poor visibility of pedestrians and massive weight. The Cybetruck is part of that trend, and has very unforgiving stainless body panels with sharp, rigid edges. All the reviews say that it's got awful visibility both front and, of course, back too.
I think that the problem is the same, for pedestrians, for all that kind of truck: ford F150, F250, Ram ...
It's a problem with trucks.
The sharp edges will become blades at high speed and the corners will become spears. Pedestrians will be absolutely shredded on impact.
A likely business success like the Hummer H1 in Europe - with about the same timid and midest target group.
The size should be no problem at all. For German craftsmen the equivalent to the Pick Up is the Van...and a Standard vehicle in this field is' the Mercedes Sprinter. The Most Common is' the medium size, which is' 6m long. (Cybertruck 5,7m) so it'' a foot longer and does not have Fourwheel wheel steering.
Also..with Class C driving licence in EU, you need tachograph in the car and card to operate it. This limits how much you can drive the vehicle, orders you to have a mandatory breaks etc..
There is no way around it, CT is simply not possible as a daily driver here
Here we can drive it with regular class B driving license. Its only 3.1 metric tons. But 2.4m width is very limiting in European cities. Even with my 2.27m width Model X I have to be very careful and sometimes close the mirrors to go thru underground garage doors, etc.
@@ytmacskas 3,1t empty.
If you register as 3,5t total that's 400kg allowance for passengers and luggage. With 4 seats that leaves no weight for actual cargo in the bed.
It will not be able to serve as an actual pickup with no weight allowance for actually carrying anything.
There's also the EU class C1 driving licence that allows vehicles up to 7500kg, Cybertruck most likely falls under that same way as the MB Sprinter's Extra Long variant. Also, Tachometer is not required in vehicles driven with C1 class licence in non-commercial use and in short range delivery services (50km/31mi) as per EC:561/2006
@@mikkojk83 sure, that's still a commercial license which very few people will take for no reason.
And it doesn't let you tow anything which is really the point of a pickup. For transporting things in the vehicle a van will carry more, and protect it from both weather and theft. And a van is cheaper to buy, cheaper to drive, and easier to manouver than most pickups i've tested.
If you want to tow 3,5t regularly Though? Pickup and BE license is the way to go. But then a pickup that can actually carry a load as well as the trailer seems a lot more efficient.
FyI: The race with the Porsche trailing another Porsche must be Fake or obviously advantagious set up for the CT.
Tesla has in best case a little more than double the hp of the smallest Porsche. But the CT has only about double the power. As you are aware that in drag races weight must be "overcompensated" with power. In other words: Double the weight needs much more than double the power to achieve the sam drag time.
My best guess: the Porsche is the cheapest one, having a driver shifting pretty bad manually. And the Porsche on the trailer ist striped down without any interiour and w/o the the drivetrain.
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I'm always for innovative desiigns. I always find cars looking the same as 15 years ago with minor changes. But man, really hard to like this model when you see how many prolems it will cause for ppl outside of the damn car. It doesn't help that concept of the cybertruck with rounded edges look way more futuristic than this.
What I’m missing in the vid is more information about the safety of the passengers in the truck, shouldn’t they be at a higher risk too since the car has less crumple zones?
As I say the Cybertruck has been tested by Tesla internally and NHTSA in order to be street legal but there is no public information/data on how safe it actually is for passengers.
I expect results from independent testers to be published in the next couple of weeks.
Aidriver has made a video where he showed a video of the crumple zone of the cybertruck vs other pickups (in the same test) and it actually is barely any different
There is new legislation allowing up to 4,25t for EV vans with a B license.
It's legislation meant for camping vans right? Do you think it would also apply to the Cybertruck?
@@MindTheMap also light work trucks/vans. Sprinters, Crafters, etc. could apply to pick-ups, not sure.
Actually UN/ECE-127 (Pedestrian safety) seems passable depending where Cybertruck's odd form puts test impact points for pedestrian simulation devices. Pedestrian leg tests are most challence, not head (unless sharp corners are included and if the metal sheet bends enough). Anyways it will be very, very low score, if Cybertruck passes Euro NCAP.
But UN/ECE-27 (External projections) is even more likely regulation where Cybertruck will fail.
I am definitely looking towards real tests as well - until then there will be loads of speculation. I might do an update video once we have several public safety test results/scores.
Something crazy theh could do for the European market is to add some airbags under the front panels similarly to some other manufacturers.
The Cybertruck stainless steel styling is not what’s illegal in Europe it’s the steer by wire technology. Currently a vehicle with no mechanical connection from the steering wheel to the steering mechanism is what’s illegal not the angular stainless steel styling.
Could the Cybertruck be built without steer by wire?
Look at the neck of the dummy in that CT crash test. Human necks are... not supposed to move like that.
Anyone ever see a 1951 sled? They used to make cars like tanks. Why are ppl talking about if this truck ever hit something. Smh
That crash test photo is funny, because it's not the same tests. Tesla did a full head on test, while the others did a "half"? Don't know the term, sorry.
Well, they can put an ugly add on bumper on the front. Let’s give them a tastvwhat 1980 tasted for European cars in th us
we dont want your shitty American cars lmao
What about the hummer ev and ford lightning
Would a public bus lose in a frontal crash with a Cybertruck?
No thanks keep it in the US
Der Test war nicht der gleiche gegen eine Niedrige Mauer war der Cybertruck sogar ziemlich gut und eines der Sichersten Trucks da draußen überraschenderweise
It REALLY isn’t. Especially against pedestrians. The US just has terrible safety testing. That’s why it’s illegal in the EU
I want it to come to the UK. I'd buy one.
All the kill joys can go live in a cycle park.
I'm definitely though expecting private imports from big Tesla - Musk lovers
Somehow talking about a "standard EU-driver license" and showing Châteaux de Chillion at the same time made me laugh...
Not that Swiss driver licenses would differ so much, but still... not EU!
When it comes to crash comparison, Thunderfoot made a video where he compared it with the same test on another pick up truck.
You do realise that people who drive "trucks" DO NOT CARE about what they hit or roll over.
If you've got crap crumple zones, you will care, because you'll be receiving most of the energy instead of it being absorbed by the car's structure.
Soon you will be able to drive electirc cars up to 4250KG with a B license as long as you have held it for 2 years. how does noboady know this?
Thanks for bringing it up - though I read it might only apply to camping vehicles?
Factual error.
CT has a camera in the front to let you see perfectly what is in front of it.
So you can't see anything if there is snow, or mud, or a leave on there for instance.
Does the cybertruck always have that front camera activated?
@@iQKyyR3K no problem, the cam has a washer just like the windshield. I don't know if it's always on.
The CT weighs 3110 Kg for the tri motor and 3001 Kg for the dual motor version.
True, but what counts for drivers license classifications is the so called "gross vehicle weight rating” and not the actual weight of the truck. It’s the weight plus assumed cargo and passengers.
In the US, Tesla itself classified that rating as "Class G" for the lightest version (greater than 3629 kg to 4082 kg (8,001-9,000 lbs.))
This is the same rating European regulation would use. The empty truck however does indeed "only" weigh 3.1 tons.
This truck can easily fix the problem created by climate change avocates in multiple ways.
Cars are to drive safely for the passingers, pamel gaps are a srupid crtic point, eurepe rules are beyong stupid, in erope mado is, lets make cars out of cake.
Absolute animal! Keep the vids up.
Ha, thank you! Tried to put this one together quickly since it's topical.
I am a big Tesla fan, but also not blind or stupid. First thing I thought when I saw cyber truck and learn about exoskeleton body (that is not present in final version tho) was that it absolutely useless for crash safety. If you are in indestructible metal box and crash, you become juice. Anyone you'd hit becomes juice as well. The crumple zones and soft bumpers are installed on cars for a reason. And even tho the final truck does not have the exoskeleton, and only uses metal panels on aluminum body, it will still wreck havoc in any crash. Especially the sharp side panels. It's basically driving with two knives at the front.
But usually you don´t crash into immovable object, especially not with such an heavy vehicle. So the crumbling and absorbtion of energy will take place, just not on your car but the thing you hit. The other car will then have a clean imprint of the Cyber trucks shape :D
Good thing it has crumple zones then. It's literally illegal not to
But its good as the ford f150 and the crash test is not the same inn the other test. Are people blind😅
Cybertruck seems to me to be the ultimate expression of "I got mine so fuck you".
The perfect vehicle for Me-First Americans.
The Cybertruck would not fit the roads of the cities of Amsterdam, London or Paris. In my city and street the maximum parking width is 180 centimeters or just shy of 6 feet. A Cybertruck of 240 cm wide would block the street when parked.
Well my neighbor has a Dodge Ram Van. He parks it partly on the sidewalks.
Is a Ram Van smaller than a Cybertruck?
If I would drive this thing in Amsterdam I would be super scared to kill someone. 0-100 km p/h in 3 seconds with a weight of 3 tons sounds insane to me. I do like the bold look of the car. I understand it’s not for everyone but I like things that are different than others. I hope it will be released in the EU with some modifications making it safe to drive here.
We have a new first choice for egostitical misanthrops when it comes to cars. If the life and safety of other people counts nothing, if owning a car that doesn't excessively infringe on the freedoms of others in an urban setting means nothing... congratulations, the Cybertruck is for you.
Err, a RAM or a F250 is way way worse. a F150 is also quite worse, and they sell like hot cakes.
@@aitorbleda8267 I am not a ware that the F250 has sharp steel panel corners on the front edges of the car. Also the geometry seems to be even worse at the Cybertruck where the driver from what I have seen so far has even a worse view towards the lower front road view, ie where children will be in case accident threats.
I am not saying that F250 in an urban environment isn't asocial, merely that the Cybertruck manages to be even worse, on top of being the opposite of sustainable (but that's indeed a common feature of most oversized pickup trucks).
@@sagichnicht6748 The issue is not the sharp edges. It is the wall of metal in front with no reasonable visibility
@@aitorbleda8267 Sure, that too, but are you telling me that perpendicularly bent thick metal sheets are going to give in, the way a front of a car should, in case of a crash?
@@sagichnicht6748 Maybe yes, probably not.
On a f150/250 you would have a wall. Even worse, plus the driver won't see you.
These vehicles, and all vehicles should follow the direct vision standard, at least three stars. That would ban most pickup trucks, and for good reasons.
As for the Tesla.. it is terrible but not the worst. It only gets hate because of Musk.
I live in Colorado in the western US, drive a small and fuel efficient car as little as possible. I prefer to walk or ride my bicycle. I am already threatened by huge pickup trucks every time I leave the house. Now we have this techbro apocalypse truck to avoid. Is the cost of leaving your home now a race to buy the most destructive vehicle in your neighborhood?
0:00 Tell me you have no idea how a crashed vehicle should look without telling me how a crashed vehicle should look. (obviously not you Mind The Map).
The European market has never been a target for big SUVs and pickup trucks. I really doubt tesla will ever create a different version of the Cybertruck just for that market. It is not worth it at all. as for the dangers of the design when it comes to pedestrians and other vehicles, well, if you see a Cybertruck, stay AWAY from it... unless you are driving one too. then just go and wave hi to the other driver. LOL
Great video as always. Your channel covers exactly the topics that I find most interesting, so...
Good to see you around again! Thank you!
im european. Trucks in europe are either owned by actual farmers doing farm stuff, or people who have been deemed as arseholes by the whole society.
If i see you have a clean truck, im 99.95% sure youre an arsehole. if your truck is muddy, youre hauling something etc, then i know its not your daily drive but you own it cause you need it.
Space Karen's vanity hulk is too dangerous to road users and pedestrians. It is lethal. It will maim. It will cripple. It will kill.
"You are going to lose this fight if you get into a crash with this vehicle"
That's why it is illegal.
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It is possible to individually import and legally register Cybertruck in EU. It is a rather costly process which require modifications and individual approve, but it is basically the same as any other individual car import.
Few of them already exists on EU plates.
I have seen a video of some in the UK but it might have been on private property/a race track. Curious if I will ever spot one myself here in Germany...
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The Tesla Cyber truck will never be allowed on British roads All European roads have crash impact regulations that this truck will never meet it's also too big for Europe
Considering the not insignificant amount of RAMs and even bloody Escalades I've seen in Europe, it seems like people who really want to terrorise some pedestrians will sadly still be able to do so. If European crash-test ratings are intentionally stronger than those in NA, then why is this loophole allowed?!
How to make it weight less than 3.5t? Take off the mirrors! I am a genius.
Cybertruck is the Duke Nukem Forever of 4x4's
you can still buy it in America and ship it in Europe and if you are faster then police then you will by fine 😁
Not really given how the next police force will be waiting for you at the border. (or you just get a million euros worth of fines in the mail)
what if Tesla add external airbags deploy automatically before a crash happens? FSD could help predict that.
So you want to add explosives under the control of a sketchy not entirely working feature that regularly makes mistakes?
Sure that's a good idea?
And how would that even work with flat plates of steel?
How would airbags deploy out through stainless steel? Do you even think before commenting?
The Model X is 2meters wide with mirrors so the cybertruck is only 20 cm wider. Which is still alot ofcourse.
Cybertruck is 95 inches wide which would be 2 meters and 41 centimeters
In Germany you need a truck license if it was street legaL (or a old class 3 driving license
As B/BE is 3,5 t
The CT weighs 3110 Kg for the tri motor and 3001 Kg for the dual motor version.
If it could be registered, it would have 400/500kg payload. Which is not too different from the car versions of the Ford pickups...
@@danielstapler4315 the license classes in europe are dependant on valid maximum weight, not "empty" weight. A car like that with 300 kg vehicle payload is pretty hilarious. Even my 15 year old shitbox fiesta has over 400 kg vehicle payload.
I do not own a Cybertruck but looking at their site I can see the weight of the heaviest model is 3.1 t where did you get the information regarding the lightest model been 3.6t ?
What counts is the so called "gross vehicle weight rating” and not the actual weight of the truck. It’s the weight plus assumed cargo and passengers.
In the US, Tesla itself classified that rating as "Class G" for the lightest version (greater than 3629 kg to 4082 kg (8,001-9,000 lbs.))
This is the same rating European regulation would use. The empty truck however does indeed "only" weigh 3.1 tons.
@@MindTheMapTesla could rate it whichever way, as a car the payload would just be limited. Similiar to what Ford does with the F-series trucks in the 3500kg category.
It's measured with an empty battery.
Honestly, CT should and will be US exclusive thing. Maybe some people will be able to import them into other countries (maybe even EU)
Europe has its specific car culture (which is bad honestly, regulations are bad) and it isn't suitable with a company that makes cars mostly for US market and China
Wdym regulations are bad? The IIHS doesn’t even test vehicles for pedestrian safety while in europe they do.
Yeah, in the EU cars are made to save both drivers, well as passengers and pedestrians from casualties instead of giving a bigger truck the upper hand. 😄
If you think regulations are there to take away your 'freedoms' you will probably be better off as a fish living in the ocean ._.
You can legally import one used and register it in many european countries, such as Ireland. You only have to pass a basic roadworthyness test, which wont consider things like panel rounding as those regluation only apply to vehicles sold new for the first time in the EU. Many US pickups without pedestrian safety certificates are registered in the UK. Carwow is importing a cybertruck into the UK and I'll bet he will be able to get it registered.
Indeed. This is a huge and honestly unacceptable loophole in driving regulations. Yes, he'll get it registred because he can evade demonstrating that the Cybertruck is safe for pedestrians, children, cyclists and pretty much anyone not sitting in another monster pickup truck. The question is, why is that even allowed?
@@sagichnicht6748 because the number of people who will go that far is so insignificantly low, that they do not pose a significant threat to public safety.
@@brinkipinkiThat argument doesn't convince me. I mean if we were talking about the one off oldtimer, maybe, but this car has a big fanbase, I can imagine there would be a substantial number of people going the extra mile to import extra deadly cars to Europe and drive them on public roads. I don't see the point why this should be allowed without a good reason.
@@sagichnicht6748 you underestimate the costs of this process and the legal difficulties of banning it for one car. For example, a prototype registration in Germany can cost well over 10k€ and several days of very intransparent of work. These kind of registrations are not a loophole. They are a pretty tedious process explicitely made to prevent what you are imagining. They are also not scalable. Add to that that the cybertruck would be legally considered a truck in the EU, with all the limitations trucks have over here. I really can't imagine there being more than a few hundred Cybertrucks in Europe and even less being regularly driven.
+10k for a 60k upwards vehicle don't sound like a big deal. I would assume that specialized importers will have the expertise to support interested buyers in that process effeciently @@brinkipinki
The truck license is a bit of a larger obstacle as it means buyers will have to pass a driving license exam.
Maybe you are right and that is enough to deterr most. Let's hope it is.
It is a Truck, not a passenger car! Compare it to the a F250or above? Or the Range Rover or Ford Transit!
it moves passengers, does it not?
Compared to Transit it has stupidly small cargo space...
@@gtvgranberg What, the Transit Courier? The one that can get into multi storey car parks? Or do you mean the long wheel base double rear wheeled, Luton Bodied version?
@@kevinburke6743 i know nothing, transit is a cargo van. I'm in Sweden. Ford Transit is like VW transporter. If you don't buy a vw you buy a ford transit.
@@gtvgranberg A transit & a VW Transport are both Delivery Vans. Which is a whole different class of Vehicle. You have to compare Apples with apples. Pick up Trucks are the life blood of America & the most popular professional vehicle on the road.
Why would Tesla want to spend huge sums of money for the always-complaining Europeans who have a negligible demand for any kind of pick up truck? It makes no sense, and especially to have to deal with byzantine sets of likely mutually conflicting definitions of "street-legal" among the various EU countries.
And I just love how you manage to frame "basic protection for people existing" as always complaining.
I guess that's why the US has double the death toll per km traveled compared to Germany for instance.
Americans must really love getting c*cked by billionaires and multinationals.