I owned a 999 back when they first came out. I wanted to love her, I really did. I saw more problems with her than my prior 30 bikes put together. It was like being married to a porn star who is also prone to committing domestic violence. Like every domestic violence victim, I thought it was me. That I needed to change. That things would get better. I finally realized that things wouldn’t get better right about the time the top end blew up. Ducati bought it back because it was such a piece of shit. I blew the dust off my R1, which had been sitting for almost 6 months. Fired right up as if I just rode it the day before. I’ll never be mesmerized by Ducati again.
It really depends on the bike, my dad has an 1199 Tricolore, he bought it from new and has had no issues over 9 years. It's been to the track a bunch of times and he commutes to and from work on it
yep. that's why I love my honda. but hey, if your definition of living is fixing your bike, instead of riding it, go ahead and fix your ducati every 2 km's.
I have 21,000 on my 2011 848 and have only done the break-in service, 15k service. I haven't replaced anything besides tires and oil, still on the original chain.
Bloody oath mate my 06zx10 bought new 58k no issues except for a stator at 28k now has 58k.ive bought 2 Italian bikes new Aprilia RSVR and Ducati 996.they rode great but overall they're overpriced garbage when it comes down to it.
Thanks for the info dude and good to hear you RIDE the thing/DUCATI ...love them, had a 916 and a 996SPS ...no problems at ALL ...only masses of torque and a sound to die for ...drive fast and safe ...Sky
Great review...No magazines go into real problems faced long term even when they run long termers and also these bloggers don't give problems as a lot are paid and some just can't see past the whole pride of ownership. Thanks for this. I will own this bike one day, but for now I need the Japanese reliability so run a 11 ZX10R
A lot of riding is image and ego…very limiting. I enjoy pretty much every type of bike and style of riding. I’d have a garage full of bikes if I had my druthers. Cheers
Tuesdaysgonewtw he basically saying that basically because Ducati has a bad rap for needing lots of service, always down, always need repair, basically you have to become a mechanic because of how much attention it needs.
bet ya my dirty shirt Ducshiti just loves this video, all reasons why not to buy one !!! that oil blow-out video of your, omg i would have traded that fucker so quick !!!! if i decide to buy a Ducshiti i'll go down the street from my house and buy the 2017 CBR10RS1H - Honda its about the same price 19,999 ua-cam.com/video/Jy5YlcdLk34/v-deo.html
Enjoyable and informative video! I've been smitten with the Supersport S since I saw the first picture. Much like yourself bikes tend to be my primary mode of everyday travel so I've been trying to learn as much as possible about what it's like to live with a Ducati. Thank goodness you actually put miles on your Panigale and I stumbled on your video. The only repair I found unsettling was the forks. That just sounds way too soon for the coating to be coming and way too expensive if you hadn't had the warranty.
They sold you a Lemon !! They fucked up when they sold you the Lemon with an unlimited miles warranty. 🤦🏻♂️ So you was putting miles and fixing things for free !! 😂👍🏼
This convinced me to never buy a Ducati lol. All sorts of crap wearing out if you actually ride the thing. It would probably end up parked for long amounts of time while I saved up to fix it.
Jakalwarrior All the Ducati's in my area for sale are mostly just a few miles below the major services, lol. This is why I bought a Japanese bike. For the price of the Ducati, I actually got two.
Bredaxe I've got a Japanese and an Austrian. The KTM design isn't as well thought out and bullet proof as Japanese ones usually are, but at least the maintenance is affordable and nothing leaks.
Jesus, never buy a Buell then! I had an XB12-R from new and it started to corrode after 50 dry miles. It had 2 recalls for items in it's first 6 months and the overall build quality was pretty shoddy. In comparison, my 1991 Ducati 900ss had very few problems in the 10 years I had it. I had 1 'major' problem over that time when the voltage regulator/rectifier overheated and caught fire. (It was Japanese, a Nippondenso unit) I replaced it with an aftermarket item that was higher rated and never had anymore problems from it. I did 32,000 miles and had it serviced for valve clearances only. Everything else I did myself. Oil filters were incredibly cheap as they are the same item as fitted to a Citroen 2CV! The only thing I would have changed would be the electrical cabling dealing with the starter motor. Too weedy. Beefier cables would have got rid of the problem I had with the bike's poor starting. I had no more problems with it than I had with my previous 3 Japanese bikes.
haha, your freddy mercury , nearly wet myself but then i remembered im not a girl, more control in that department, i used to get butt ache on mine, think my bike was molesting me on long journey's.
people complaining must have bikes falling apart lol, my 2014 r1 had clutch issues at less than 2k, if you ride like this guy and put that many miles on that quick then of course your gona wear things out lol, also at less than 2k my r1 had a heavy oil seep from the case. all his stuff was minor
I daily drove an SV650 for 2 years straight, no car at all, and it never gave me ANY of these issues. All his stuff was minor?? New, $2500 each, forks at 18,000 miles? Hardly minor...
Really enjoyed this video man. I think you've got a knack for reviews and videos in general. I'd recommend you do more in the future. Great bike too :)
At least to make us laugh when you did the bohemians rhapsody went it change beat and go kinda crazy you should have pop a small wheely at the same time it would have been funny as hell I listen to you singing all along I was sure to see something around that but ...... nothing at all except poor singing 😭
What a sad load of rubbish. Over 40,000 k's on my CBR1000rr, and nothing has gone wrong, or broken down... NOTHING ! AND THE STUPID THING BURNS YOUR LEG... O SHIT NO !
Unfortunately CBR is out of Panigale's league when it comes to power, weight and handling, unless it is SP2, and even then, it is not as good looking and sounding bike, slower too... I sold my 190hp '12 1krr, 4 months after getting a Panigale anniversario, because I stopped riding it.
I love Ducati but that's a LOT of problems. I never belived the things they said about Ducati but I see it's true. Crazy! I guess that's the price you pay to have the most beautiful bike ever made.
I have put 16,000 miles on my Ducati since I got it a year ago. I haven't had any problems, but I have heard some horror stories as well. I think their QC/inspection team may be letting some suspect bikes fall through the cracks, but my experience with Ducati has been great.
no.1 this guy bought a demo bike which means a tonne of different guys either thrashed the bike or rode it in a messed up way. no.2 the guy doesn't know that the traction control settings are can be changed . remember aswell this bike has had an ecu upgrade which means if it was installed or tuned wrong there's your answer there. I ve had 2 ! Ducati Panigale 899's and haven't had all the problems this bike has had. plus I flog the crap out of both of them!
The traction control was "turned-off" coincident to the launch problem. How do I know? I turned it off. Bad listening comprehension. Your grammar could use some improvement as well.
This is the type of dude youtube randomly reccomends to you at 3am and eventually you end up laughing your balls off. LOL great video man!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Great story. I commuted from Edinburgh to Glasgow in the early eighties on a 500 Pantah. Ate batteries if you let it but was reliable as hell and a pleasure to ride. Oh the whirlies roundabout at 7 AM!!
any old guy like me knows that an Alfa Romeo and a Ducati are totally unreliable and total shit. However you love them. These are machines that make you scared. You have to have owned one or you haven't lived.
I,m 65 ive seen Ducati come and go twice. The only person I ever saw with 2 Ducatis , bought the second one to keep the first one running. This is same for Alfa, Fiat even the cars with the horses. All complicated expensive and way over rated. Has anyone ever seen a Ferrari with a 100,000 miles on it. I ride a 2008 Yamaha FZ1 it has 74,000 miles on it. It has never been back to the dealer. Still keeps me smiling .Last year with 70,000 it ran 10.90 quarter mile. Original clutch.may change it this year. But I can work on it. I will say ride what you love thats all that matters
The new Ducatis are so much more reliable these days, they aren't the same little company they were when they gained the reputation for being high maintenance and finicky. They are now even better than the standard they were at when Harley owned them. Now with the king of the auto industry in charge, their facilities and manufacturing standards are better than most Japanese. Since the VW Audi Group bought Ducati, the quality and dealership backing has greatly improved. They just haven't kicked their harley reputation yet because not many can afford them so not many are out there to be seen by non enthusiasts that arent savy enough to understand the new engineering and manufacturing standards they are made with.
It's like comparing a 50 year old italian supercar to a new Lamborghini. The reliability is night and day. The new Lamborghinis for the last ten years have been basically a bullet proof Audi R8. It's become a reliable, easy to drive, and safe, daily driving commuter. Gone are the days of exoctics that spend more time at the shop than driving on the road. No more being stranded constantly if you aren't a mechanic. They are just as practical as any Japanese sports car, usualy share the same electronics too. Only thing that changes is higher end materials and the styling. A new ducati is like buying a yamaha superbike and upgrading the suspension, brakes, and adding some lightweight wheels and carbon fiber pieces. This is why an R1M with all thise parts costs 23 grand and the new italian superbikes are made in greater numbers and sold for competitive pices. A new Aprilia RSV4 base model is only 16 grand and has similar service intervals as its Japanese counterparts.
Best mod I ever did to my '12 1199S was putting a '14 899 seat on it! It's a cheap man's comfort seat but it's significantly thicker and only costed me $50. Night and day difference.
I had a Buell Ulysses XB12XT that also had a two-year warranty, I had over £2,500 spent on it in that time, I remember taking it back one time the guy said we only see you when you want something, I said your the one that gave me the warranty lol, he then said you want perfection you should have brought a Honda great salesman he was lol, so now is one reason I have a Fireblade ;-).
man that sounds like you ride worrying about your bike than anything else. my 2013 kawasaki zx6r 636 I bought off the show room floor with 0 miles on it 15870 miles later only oil change. if it was for warrantie that would cost you a lot.
Japanese is the way to go. Cheap, realiable and great performance. Unlike a Panigale which you have to baby it or else you might break something and have to spend thousands to fix it.
No they "devalue" like any other vehicle in the world. Has to be enough money less than buying a brand new vehicle... like everything else. Japanese bike are cheaper and have an even cheaper resale- I don't get your point. lol
Great job, It's nice to have people like you to share your experience. HAPPY RIDING !!
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Buy Japanese I still have a 1995 gsxr 1100 and never, I mean NEVER an oil leak. 2005 Honda CBR 1100XX, same thing, best bike I ever had, perfect, not an issue, not one !! Cars are germans, girls are blond and bikes are Japanese.
Jesus christ, so many problems at just 22k miles? Damn, no wonder people say ducati's are unreliable. I got ninja at 20k miles and ever had one problem. 1 wire needed resoldering. Thats all...
i have a 1000rr with over 25k miles and havent had to spend 1/100th of what u spent on that thing.. was gonna try and find a old 999 monster but idk now.. beautiful bike tho!!
So what i understand from your review (which was really informing) Ducati makes cool looking bikes which have crappy build quality, full of ongoing problems and cost an arm and a leg to fix & maintain... Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick with my bmw which i ride like i stole it. After 15k, i'm yet to face a problem. At least that's my 2 cents worth of opinion. Considering those mirrors, you can keep the change :p
Suzuki all the way for me. love the way ducati bikes look etc but its like being with a hot gf, too expensive to maintain and in the end not worth it lmfao
I thought a Harley was costly but this bike takes the cake. Ducati bikes are nice but they are costly and the parts cost are over the moon. Bike manufactures need to make the bikes easier to work on , this should be their focus in the future. Super glue the rim sticker on the rim next time
When he says the Ducati sounds much better than any bike in the comments but actually sounds like a dying lawn mower compared to any inline 4 hyper bike. Still looks hella nice though.
No one wins a religious argument and many of the comments here are just that. Inline 4s are not boring if you exist in a vacuum. Aside from an RC30 or RC51, I can't recall too many Honda engines that exhibited a lot of character....and character is the essence of a MOTOR-bike.
Fancy Animal Except if I gotta bring the damn bike to the dealer if I rode it a couple of times nah fk that shit. Character doesnt mean spending alot of extra money for a piece of good looking trash.
jesse van vliet guy I ride with has a 1299. Sounds bleh. Another rider we ride with has an RC8. Sounds much better. Even SV650s sound better. Probably an engine design quirk. Whatever, it makes great power. I wouldn't complain if I owned one.
Another scam don't replace unless it shows signs of leaking. Never needed to replace one yet, just don't get dirt on it when changing the oil, if you do wash it with oil, good as brand new
Take 280 from SF to Pacifica exit -Take hwy 1 from Pacifica to half moon bay turn right on Hwy 92 to Sky line go right on sky line stop at Alice's Restaurant ( Big bikes of all kinds hang out. Then you can drop back down Hyw 84 (awesome road for your bike, these all are!) then at the end of 84 you can go right back to SF on 1 down the coast or go left down the coast to Santa Cruz. Then back to SF down 1 from Santa Cruz. Check out the Board walk in Santa Cruz ! Try to do it when it's not fogged in. A ALL day run and very beautiful. You can't go wrong.✨😆🤘✨🇺🇸if you go to Santa Cruz it will be a ALL day gig but if you go back to SF from the bottom of 84 bout half a day. Also stop at Apple Jacks bar on 84 home of old school jokers and smokers like Niel Young. And the Greatful dead.
For some people 15000 is a normal year of riding (and all those issues though not major would be quite annoying if you had them all in one year). Had it not been under warranty, it would have cost you $$$$$$$ After having owned bikes of most major brands, there's 2 brands I've learned to stay away from: Ducati and KTM. They are sexy, fun, sound great, but you will visit your dealer more often than you'd like and it will cost you more than you expect (even when expecting higher costs).
@@FancyAnimal Bro I was thinking the same thing ...funny that you should say it !!!! As bad as an investment as it is...I will take the Ducati over a skirt any day...MGTOW bro.
Fucking Dainese! Just had the THIRD zipper break on my jacket today. I recommend this as a replacement: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003W8EV84/ Now to get it resewn... or just get a new fucking jacket.
gsx s1000 26000 miles oil changes only I have a ducati s4 fun bike to ride ever 6000 cost money be safe nice bike wont buy another ducati you can get better for a lot lest
Beautiful bike, they nailed the looks on the Panigale. You gotta love the bike to say "Rumors of heat with this bike are greatly exaggerated" I only have a burn marks on my leg but its not that bad :P I gotta say worst I ever got from my GSXR some very warm air blown at me by cooling fans when they kick in traffic at 105°C. Good vid :)
Thanks for the review. I really appreciate it. I'm currently at the only point in my life I'll ever be at, with enough disposable income to go out and just buy a new bike. I expect kids will be demanded soon, and by the time that's over, I'll be surprised if there's much fun available at all that still powered by fossil fuels. I've got an old '56 Velocette, '79 Guzzi Lemans, an '88 650 HawkGT(BROS) and a '98 zx7r, and I love em all to bits for different reasons, (and I can convert them all to run on alcohol if I have to), but always wanted that Ducati. It would have been a 916, but, my Mrs is German, and from a family obsessed with things being perfect, in order, reliable, of quality, and her dads told her all about older Ducati reliability and practicality. The other odd thing is that she's consistently encouraging the purchase, and she basically hates motorbikes. Dirty, smelly, dangerous, noisy, impracticle. This might be because I do a lot of miles, and I have to fix my bikes quite a lot as a result, (and that time could be spent fixing the house). The newest is 19 years old, and has a LOT on the clocks. In the past few months, I've had the original rad problems (fixed by replacing with one shipped from glorious un-salty California - £100 delivered to my door - gracias) Rearsets gear lever break (corroded through where joins the linkage), replaced front master cylinder, brake discs/pads, did my clearances, oil etc. I've got a spare set of forks ready to strip and replace the stanchions on, as I'll need that in a few K. It happens in gluts, and then I need to spend a chunk of cash to keep it roadworthy, and she thinks that would be better spent on a 'problem free' new bike. She's also overheard all my youtubing while I learned about all these new electronics, cornering ABS, cornering traction control (both of which, I would rather like, as my commute in the UK is both long at 130 mile round trip, and there's often a sort of 'lucky-dip' type of surface around blind bends, maybe a giant puddle, maybe gravel after the puddle has gone, mud from farm traffic, diesel spills, etc...) and wants it to have all the latest and greatest 'rider saftey aids' cos she doesn't want me to die, which is nice, but it means I can't slip a 916, or a 1098/848 in under the radar, and I think even the 959 panigale lacks a lot of it (I'd have liked the 1098/1198, last of the line really, belts, steel trellis, fits my body too), and leaves me with the latest crop of superbikes. I'm partial to a Kawasaki, so thinking of a zx10r, plush suspension, good brakes, all the electronics, but no downchange on the quickshifter, unless you buy an RR (so I probably would cos its only another 2 grand), but, kinda, standard Jap styling - nothing to write home about. Not reeeeally into the S1000RR - it just doesn't make me need it, even though the heated grips would be lush in winter. I'm sure it's great, but somehow feels too utilitarian, and I don't need to win races on tracks. I'll be trying a fireblade SP2, just for shits and giggles, but I don't want it. I just fancy a go on the bike that McGuinness and Martin couldn't stay on, and getting a test ride is easy here. Rather buy an RC45! Or even an RC51. or both. Yamaha - I'm sure its great, but I'm not into it , it doesn't fit me, I'm tall - rather have a TZR250, (which I'd have a reason to be too big for), a Supermono, or an OWO2 for the money. Suzuki? no interest somehow. KTM - nope. But anyway, yeah, a good objective review - It'd be nice if I could find reviews of the BMW, the Kwak and the Duke all having done 3 British winters, but I think your review is about as close as I'm gonna get with that. Is the headlight any good? Great music.
Is it weird that I worry that, if I buy a 1299, in 20 years time, I might not be able to find petrol for it, and then due to all the electronics, it just won't run and I won't be able to ride it?
If you buy the Panigale S model, it comes equipped with LED headlights which are considerably brighter than conventional lighting. 1299S Panigale, 1290 SuperDuke, SuperDuke GT, Yamaha MT10, and Indian Scout are bikes I would check out.
This is a valid point, but you think we have A/C here? ;) Germans call this 'Worrying about unlaid eggs'. I worry more about smashing into a deer, in the dark fog and murk of winter, but not until it nearly happens. Seriously though - they have the whole countryside to stand around in.
My Bone stock Panigale 164hp to the wheel, full termi exhaust, and bazzaz -FI. I now put 185hp to the wheel. I would say that is a pretty big power increase for the bike.
All new motorcycles have an issue at some point. The service writer at our local Ducati dealership had to rebuild the engine on his 2015 R1. Which was out of his pocket because Japanese bikes only get 1 year warranties. Ironic lol
Ball bearings in the steering head, that is good for a bicycle not a motorcycle let alone an expensive one. The reason for desmo valve gear came to an end by about the end of the thirties but if you can sell it for a profit just keep going.
funny video :D i bought my ducati and 25000 miles later no problems it has been very good couple minutes in the video later 1 problem 2nd problem ..... 40th problem i fix that and this and that , i love ducatis the look and sound definitely ferrari of bikes but god need as many repairs as Ferraris nice to look at but not to own . Japanese bikes got better on looks and they are still bulletproof just my 2 cents
Never one to waste a veiw .i hate audi drivers !beautiful bike and I agree why commute in a poxcey car !here in Scotland Ducati and TRIUMPH dealerships are together i chose TRIUMPH 🇬🇧 lovely bike my TRIUMPH 1050 RS SEAT is comfortable great video 👍🇬🇧
Not impractical? Some folks don't live in San Diego, deal with -30°F in the winter, ice and snow, have to haul groceries and other stuff, may work in a place where helmet hair smashed clothing, and motorcycle gear isn't acceptable. In such cases, motorcycles are "additional" to the practical piece (a climate controlled car). Hence not paying the price of an additional car without any of the practicality of a car.
Hey Brother good review, The intro I was like... what the fuck but was in tears by the time you got to the Gay part(LMFAO) any fucking who buying a 2017 Ducati 959 outta fucking Washington on the first and driving it back down. I just moved to South San Fran area. Maybe ill see you around. Drive safe
What I've learned from the video, ride your panigale as much as you can while its still under warranty.
steve kno yes and always brush your teeth
steve kno yup like Yamaha before the gear box explodes
Except Yamaha has a 100,000 mile warranty for life on their new bikes.
steve kno no one is disputing that Yamaha makes a good product. Ride what you enjoy.
Dougie You've never even had a Yamaha, let alone ride a motorcycle. You are just basing your comment on "gossip" from online threads.
I owned a 999 back when they first came out. I wanted to love her, I really did. I saw more problems with her than my prior 30 bikes put together. It was like being married to a porn star who is also prone to committing domestic violence. Like every domestic violence victim, I thought it was me. That I needed to change. That things would get better. I finally realized that things wouldn’t get better right about the time the top end blew up. Ducati bought it back because it was such a piece of shit. I blew the dust off my R1, which had been sitting for almost 6 months. Fired right up as if I just rode it the day before. I’ll never be mesmerized by Ducati again.
“It was like being married to a porn star who is also prone to domestic violence “ Best analogy ever 🤣🤣🤣
LMFAO
Awesome sauce
It really depends on the bike, my dad has an 1199 Tricolore, he bought it from new and has had no issues over 9 years. It's been to the track a bunch of times and he commutes to and from work on it
999 was one of the worst and most unreliable motorcycles every built
I love your philosophy... Why commute in something you hate just to save a bit of money! You only live once, so fking live!
Why do you think people hate their bikes? I fucking love mine and NOT having to tinker with a duc is simply an added bonus.
yep. that's why I love my honda. but hey, if your definition of living is fixing your bike, instead of riding it, go ahead and fix your ducati every 2 km's.
I have 21,000 on my 2011 848 and have only done the break-in service, 15k service. I haven't replaced anything besides tires and oil, still on the original chain.
phillirofl you deserve a strawberry scratch n sniff sticker. Come over here. 21k chain...you're the man.
That timing belt though...
I have 85k kms on my CBR150r 2013, only replaced Tires,chain and sprocket, oils and brake pads. And headlight bulb twice.
smells funny 21k on a chain cough cough
@@janwilliamagonoy try replacing your headlight fluid. That will fix it.
Ducati dealership, sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name.
Prius owner.
@@FancyAnimal damn. You got me real good.
Love your bike man:)
Thanks bro
too legit
SnewJ lmao
Snewj we see u
I pulled up with ^ and them
My 28 yo Kawasaki hasn't had that many problems.
Damn starting to feel good about my decision to buy a kawasaki 400....:)
Let's hear it for Kawy
Bloody oath mate my 06zx10 bought new 58k no issues except for a stator at 28k now has 58k.ive bought 2 Italian bikes new Aprilia RSVR and Ducati 996.they rode great but overall they're overpriced garbage when it comes down to it.
A Ducati being ridden regularly ? Wtf
6:55 was the moment i hit that subscribe button
Carry on... la dee dah .... for me for me For MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! LoL
Thanks for the info dude and good to hear you RIDE the thing/DUCATI ...love them,
had a 916 and a 996SPS ...no problems at ALL ...only masses of torque and a sound to die for ...drive fast and safe ...Sky
Sky Powers , what happened to your Ducks?
Holy hell. It seems you have replaced about everything on that bike. Best looking bike out there but seems like one hell of a headache.
rschoultz5304 i have to admit I loved every minute of it.
Extremely entertaining man, especially your morning scene 🤣
Paul Rose cheers mate
This makes me just want to buy an R1 or Fireblade.
I vote Fireblade😉
Same. I've been binge watching Ducati videos and I'm like, nope, going back to Japanese.
Great review...No magazines go into real problems faced long term even when they run long termers and also these bloggers don't give problems as a lot are paid and some just can't see past the whole pride of ownership. Thanks for this. I will own this bike one day, but for now I need the Japanese reliability so run a 11 ZX10R
A lot of riding is image and ego…very limiting. I enjoy pretty much every type of bike and style of riding. I’d have a garage full of bikes if I had my druthers. Cheers
Nice to see Ducati is still making mechanics out of riders... even in 2017. What an embarrassment.
He's a mechanical engineer bozo, what's your point? Oh, never mind, you don't have one.
Tuesdaysgonewtw he basically saying that basically because Ducati has a bad rap for needing lots of service, always down, always need repair, basically you have to become a mechanic because of how much attention it needs.
@@Tuesdaysgonewtw imagine if he wasnt.
And he's basically saying that basically the 'bad rap' that Ducati has isn't basically true.
bet ya my dirty shirt Ducshiti just loves this video, all reasons why not to buy one !!!
that oil blow-out video of your, omg i would have traded that fucker so quick !!!!
if i decide to buy a Ducshiti i'll go down the street from my house and buy the
2017 CBR10RS1H - Honda its about the same price 19,999
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Enjoyable and informative video! I've been smitten with the Supersport S since I saw the first picture. Much like yourself bikes tend to be my primary mode of everyday travel so I've been trying to learn as much as possible about what it's like to live with a Ducati. Thank goodness you actually put miles on your Panigale and I stumbled on your video. The only repair I found unsettling was the forks. That just sounds way too soon for the coating to be coming and way too expensive if you hadn't had the warranty.
They sold you a Lemon !! They fucked up when they sold you the Lemon with an unlimited miles warranty. 🤦🏻♂️ So you was putting miles and fixing things for free !! 😂👍🏼
very witty and informative, I changed seat and rearsets, gear sensor at 13k, fork seals at 12k, usual Ducati stuff..
This convinced me to never buy a Ducati lol. All sorts of crap wearing out if you actually ride the thing. It would probably end up parked for long amounts of time while I saved up to fix it.
Jakalwarrior All the Ducati's in my area for sale are mostly just a few miles below the major services, lol. This is why I bought a Japanese bike. For the price of the Ducati, I actually got two.
Bredaxe I've got a Japanese and an Austrian. The KTM design isn't as well thought out and bullet proof as Japanese ones usually are, but at least the maintenance is affordable and nothing leaks.
Jakalwarrior well imy brother and friends of him never had any issues with their ducati.
super117knight how many miles?
Jesus, never buy a Buell then! I had an XB12-R from new and it started to corrode after 50 dry miles. It had 2 recalls for items in it's first 6 months and the overall build quality was pretty shoddy.
In comparison, my 1991 Ducati 900ss had very few problems in the 10 years I had it. I had 1 'major' problem over that time when the voltage regulator/rectifier overheated and caught fire. (It was Japanese, a Nippondenso unit) I replaced it with an aftermarket item that was higher rated and never had anymore problems from it.
I did 32,000 miles and had it serviced for valve clearances only. Everything else I did myself. Oil filters were incredibly cheap as they are the same item as fitted to a Citroen 2CV! The only thing I would have changed would be the electrical cabling dealing with the starter motor. Too weedy. Beefier cables would have got rid of the problem I had with the bike's poor starting. I had no more problems with it than I had with my previous 3 Japanese bikes.
The only that scares me is the price of those forks...that being said. I just purchased a Panigale R...wish me luck!
Just enjoy life man. There are no guarantees we'll come down for breakfast in the morning. Cheers!
Did you had luck so far?
@@bruderrudiger9574 been awesome so far. No problems!
haha, your freddy mercury , nearly wet myself but then i remembered im not a girl, more control in that department, i used to get butt ache on mine, think my bike was molesting me on long journey's.
Wearing black leather in the gay district xD
Lots of ways to skin a cat. Right jimmy ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Man that's a lot of problems for an everyday bike. No thanks
It's not that bad... Come on bro
@@3star2nr when NO other bike has this many problems? yes it is
@@desertfresh3740 they have other issues...
the production in this video is absolutely amazing. keep up the great work man!
people complaining must have bikes falling apart lol, my 2014 r1 had clutch issues at less than 2k, if you ride like this guy and put that many miles on that quick then of course your gona wear things out lol, also at less than 2k my r1 had a heavy oil seep from the case. all his stuff was minor
BurninRubber93 I have a yamaha fz1 with 70000 miles. It has no leaks and runs good.
I daily drove an SV650 for 2 years straight, no car at all, and it never gave me ANY of these issues.
All his stuff was minor?? New, $2500 each, forks at 18,000 miles? Hardly minor...
Really enjoyed this video man. I think you've got a knack for reviews and videos in general. I'd recommend you do more in the future. Great bike too :)
Thanks for the encouragement. I wish I could get my mom to sit on a motorcycle. Are you worried about your woman riding?
So RSV4 next? Awesome review by the way.
how the fuck do you keep a bike stock 0.o
Thank you good sir, for a thorough, comprehensive and very honest review.
Supernova12034 you're welcome sir.
God any American whiskey but SoCo bro 🤣
Meanwhile my 20k mile 2016 R1 has only needed an O-ring for the water pump return hose @ 18k miles...
Covered under warranty.
And you're boring ...sorry bud
R1 has been having some issues. With the crank. Watch the workshop. Matt has been posting some videos on the Yamaha R1. Crank failure...
At least to make us laugh when you did the bohemians rhapsody went it change beat and go kinda crazy you should have pop a small wheely at the same time it would have been funny as hell I listen to you singing all along I was sure to see something around that but ...... nothing at all except poor singing 😭
What a sad load of rubbish.
Over 40,000 k's on my CBR1000rr, and nothing has gone wrong, or broken down...
NOTHING !
AND THE STUPID THING BURNS YOUR LEG... O SHIT NO !
Unfortunately CBR is out of Panigale's league when it comes to power, weight and handling, unless it is SP2, and even then, it is not as good looking and sounding bike, slower too... I sold my 190hp '12 1krr, 4 months after getting a Panigale anniversario, because I stopped riding it.
I love Ducati but that's a LOT of problems. I never belived the things they said about Ducati but I see it's true. Crazy! I guess that's the price you pay to have the most beautiful bike ever made.
I have put 16,000 miles on my Ducati since I got it a year ago. I haven't had any problems, but I have heard some horror stories as well. I think their QC/inspection team may be letting some suspect bikes fall through the cracks, but my experience with Ducati has been great.
JRat well it paid for itself in laughs. There really is no comparison...KTM 1290 SD comes close but built even worse.
no.1 this guy bought a demo bike which means a tonne of different guys either thrashed the bike or rode it in a messed up way.
no.2 the guy doesn't know that the traction control settings are can be changed .
remember aswell this bike has had an ecu upgrade which means if it was installed or tuned wrong there's your answer there.
I ve had 2 ! Ducati Panigale 899's and haven't had all the problems this bike has had.
plus I flog the crap out of both of them!
The traction control was "turned-off" coincident to the launch problem. How do I know? I turned it off. Bad listening comprehension. Your grammar could use some improvement as well.
This makes me feel alot better
This is the type of dude youtube randomly reccomends to you at 3am and eventually you end up laughing your balls off. LOL great video man!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Hey man, so how is the panigale holding up after almost 2 years after this was posted ?
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@@slamdiesel4576 foreal????
@@slamdiesel4576 aww man thatbsucks
Seth E dude, that sucks.
gave me some confidence, just hit 8k on my 2013 1199
When you want to get somewhere fast and in style then buy a Ducati. If you want to get home, buy a Japanese bike.
Japoneses motorcycle for life.
too funny lol good job my man
MAS IKI thanks
Fancy Animal .....is panigale good to buy??
Taqiesh Aqiesh. Yes. I'd give it a 7/10 for quality and 10/10 for fun and performance. I'd give CBR, R1, ZX10, S1000, RSV the opposite rating.
Thanks!!
Fancy Animal thanks
Great story. I commuted from Edinburgh to Glasgow in the early eighties on a 500 Pantah. Ate batteries if you let it but was reliable as hell and a pleasure to ride. Oh the whirlies roundabout at 7 AM!!
any old guy like me knows that an Alfa Romeo and a Ducati are totally unreliable and total shit. However you love them. These are machines that make you scared. You have to have owned one or you haven't lived.
Like having an Italian woman....can only have one in a lifetime.
black hair big tits and oh mama :)
I,m 65 ive seen Ducati come and go twice. The only person I ever saw with 2 Ducatis , bought the second one to keep the first one running. This is same for Alfa, Fiat even the cars with the horses. All complicated expensive and way over rated. Has anyone ever seen a Ferrari with a 100,000 miles on it. I ride a 2008 Yamaha FZ1 it has 74,000 miles on it. It has never been back to the dealer. Still keeps me smiling .Last year with 70,000 it ran 10.90 quarter mile. Original clutch.may change it this year. But I can work on it. I will say ride what you love thats all that matters
The new Ducatis are so much more reliable these days, they aren't the same little company they were when they gained the reputation for being high maintenance and finicky. They are now even better than the standard they were at when Harley owned them. Now with the king of the auto industry in charge, their facilities and manufacturing standards are better than most Japanese. Since the VW Audi Group bought Ducati, the quality and dealership backing has greatly improved. They just haven't kicked their harley reputation yet because not many can afford them so not many are out there to be seen by non enthusiasts that arent savy enough to understand the new engineering and manufacturing standards they are made with.
It's like comparing a 50 year old italian supercar to a new Lamborghini. The reliability is night and day. The new Lamborghinis for the last ten years have been basically a bullet proof Audi R8. It's become a reliable, easy to drive, and safe, daily driving commuter. Gone are the days of exoctics that spend more time at the shop than driving on the road. No more being stranded constantly if you aren't a mechanic. They are just as practical as any Japanese sports car, usualy share the same electronics too. Only thing that changes is higher end materials and the styling. A new ducati is like buying a yamaha superbike and upgrading the suspension, brakes, and adding some lightweight wheels and carbon fiber pieces. This is why an R1M with all thise parts costs 23 grand and the new italian superbikes are made in greater numbers and sold for competitive pices. A new Aprilia RSV4 base model is only 16 grand and has similar service intervals as its Japanese counterparts.
Best mod I ever did to my '12 1199S was putting a '14 899 seat on it! It's a cheap man's comfort seat but it's significantly thicker and only costed me $50. Night and day difference.
Absolute heaps of shit and I know I work for a Ducati dealership
betraying your employer while complicit in the purveyance of shit. Congrats!
Fancy Animal cant handle the truth hahahahahaha
hahahahaha....Fancy animal you ma ma ma...ma ma mmmum ma make me happy.
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You sound so defensive in these posts. Like you're still trying to justify something to yourself.
Gotta keep the bathrooms clean!
I had a Buell Ulysses XB12XT that also had a two-year warranty, I had over £2,500 spent on it in that time, I remember taking it back one time the guy said we only see you when you want something, I said your the one that gave me the warranty lol, he then said you want perfection you should have brought a Honda great salesman he was lol, so now is one reason I have a Fireblade ;-).
man that sounds like you ride worrying about your bike than anything else. my 2013 kawasaki zx6r 636 I bought off the show room floor with 0 miles on it 15870 miles later only oil change. if it was for warrantie that would cost you a lot.
BIKE GEAR MOTOVLOG if your poor it is expensive but people who buy Ducati aren't poor.
Says the guy with the Honda Accord to the guy in the Ferrari F40. Which would you rather own?
That's not true, I know someone who bought a 2010 Ducati and it's park in is garage right now.
Japanese is the way to go. Cheap, realiable and great performance. Unlike a Panigale which you have to baby it or else you might break something and have to spend thousands to fix it.
Daniel Kane says the guy with the Honda Accord to the guy with the F40.
Came here to get an idea about Ducati, watched other reviews as well. All I can say is that ima get a Yamaha like r1 or a kawasaki.
Me and you both!!!. I wanna ride the fuck out my beast w.o headaches
7500 mile 600rr service $20
Mike Rider used 600rr for sale $20
Mike Rider yeah, ducati owners only buy there bikes so they can tell people they own it.
Ducati's resell value is a joke, seriously. They devalue faster than any bike I have seen.
No they "devalue" like any other vehicle in the world. Has to be enough money less than buying a brand new vehicle... like everything else. Japanese bike are cheaper and have an even cheaper resale- I don't get your point. lol
Yeah ok! But it’s still a 600 🤢
Great job, It's nice to have people like you to share your experience. HAPPY RIDING !!
Buy Japanese I still have a 1995 gsxr 1100 and never, I mean NEVER an oil leak. 2005 Honda CBR 1100XX, same thing, best bike I ever had, perfect, not an issue, not one !! Cars are germans, girls are blond and bikes are Japanese.
Sebastián Demaría you should buy a gallon of Edy's Neapolitan and take your haircut appts off the calendar. Variety is the spice of life...
Sebastián Demaría yeah except new german cars are built like shyt.
Joe D You are right, I will buy the new Alfa Romeo Giulia, nicer and better than a M4. Same or better quality.
Sebastián Demaría great choice
Sebastián Demaría girls are blonde
Your videos are getting tons of views - why aren’t there more subscribers??
UA-cam is unsubscribing people from my channel daily.
repair cost video on Ducati...30min video..yup never buying a ducaiti unless I'm rich and have like 5 other bikes
Says a guy who cherishes M money pit. I have had two Ms, including E60, never again. My 1299S zero problems.
I have 35k miles on my 11' 1199 ABS
Jesus christ, so many problems at just 22k miles? Damn, no wonder people say ducati's are unreliable.
I got ninja at 20k miles and ever had one problem. 1 wire needed resoldering. Thats all...
All 29hp wow.
i have a 1000rr with over 25k miles and havent had to spend 1/100th of what u spent on that thing.. was gonna try and find a old 999 monster but idk now.. beautiful bike tho!!
So what i understand from your review (which was really informing) Ducati makes cool looking bikes which have crappy build quality, full of ongoing problems and cost an arm and a leg to fix & maintain... Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick with my bmw which i ride like i stole it. After 15k, i'm yet to face a problem. At least that's my 2 cents worth of opinion. Considering those mirrors, you can keep the change :p
Don't appreciate your language. Love the bike
Suzuki all the way for me. love the way ducati bikes look etc but its like being with a hot gf, too expensive to maintain and in the end not worth it lmfao
its soooooo worth it :)
Demo bike, that's probably why it smoked on start up not run in hard enough
OMG the Camry part had me rolling
I thought a Harley was costly but this bike takes the cake. Ducati bikes are nice but they are costly and the parts cost are over the moon.
Bike manufactures need to make the bikes easier to work on , this should be their focus in the future.
Super glue the rim sticker on the rim next time
Am I the only person reading all the comments and noticing that "fancy animal" (vids OP) is being highly salty when someone criticizes his bike?
Kutsy Nope def not only you
Summary...
If it's not a Panigale V4 you bought an Alfa Romeo on two wheels, it leaks oil, it always needs repairs but you love it anyway.
A fuckn Ducaaaaaati bro
CHINESE SCOOOTAH!!
Buy one and you gonna have "A Fucked Up Dayyy"!
When he says the Ducati sounds much better than any bike in the comments but actually sounds like a dying lawn mower compared to any inline 4 hyper bike. Still looks hella nice though.
Or buy a Honda and have none of these issues for 40k km
I have a Honda and you're right. It's reliable....and boring....that's why I never ride it. I don't drive a Camry for the same reason.
But you buy boringness with a honda.
Fancy Animal why does reliable equate to boring? breaking down or shelling out a few grand is not my idea of excitement.
No one wins a religious argument and many of the comments here are just that. Inline 4s are not boring if you exist in a vacuum. Aside from an RC30 or RC51, I can't recall too many Honda engines that exhibited a lot of character....and character is the essence of a MOTOR-bike.
Fancy Animal Except if I gotta bring the damn bike to the dealer if I rode it a couple of times nah fk that shit.
Character doesnt mean spending alot of extra money for a piece of good looking trash.
love this review!! no censorship, straight up truth, fun and extremely informative !! subscribed.
Man that exhaust sounds like a chinese pitbike 😂
You should hear a ducati irl
All Panigales do. Cause its a twin lmfao
Must be the Chinese speakers
jesse van vliet guy I ride with has a 1299. Sounds bleh. Another rider we ride with has an RC8. Sounds much better. Even SV650s sound better. Probably an engine design quirk. Whatever, it makes great power. I wouldn't complain if I owned one.
Jakalwarrior make a dinner plate and place your words in the center. Then search ducati 1199 panigale austin racing exhaust. Commence eating.
Have you ever changed the spark plugs on your Ducati ?
Garbage on two wheels, motorcycle should not leak unless dropped
Crush washer.
2 WHEELED EYES PEELED lowsided my r1 into barb wire fence...no leaks/rode home gotta love Japanese reliability...I do want a s1000rr tho
Another scam don't replace unless it shows signs of leaking. Never needed to replace one yet, just don't get dirt on it when changing the oil, if you do wash it with oil, good as brand new
Fuck ya pick that bike up take a quick look, get it home, asses the damage and then check yourself lol, then fix it and then get back out riding.
2 WHEELED EYES PEELED yep lol mechanically it was all good..ordered new fairings before I even got home 😂
You bought this from the Ducati Aprilia dealer, you made a huge mistake you should’ve bought the Aprilia RSV4 1000R aPRC instead
Ducati are nothing more than poser bike for wannabes riders , Dude rides around to talk about his over priced motorcycle.
DR N try Stay Free maxi pads. They won't let the leakage stain your 12 year old GSXR 600's seat.
You don't need a sex change operation because you are a Bitch.
I've past your slow ass on the road, Bitch !
Take 280 from SF to Pacifica exit -Take hwy 1 from Pacifica to half moon bay turn right on Hwy 92 to Sky line go right on sky line stop at Alice's Restaurant ( Big bikes of all kinds hang out. Then you can drop back down Hyw 84 (awesome road for your bike, these all are!) then at the end of 84 you can go right back to SF on 1 down the coast or go left down the coast to Santa Cruz. Then back to SF down 1 from Santa Cruz. Check out the Board walk in Santa Cruz ! Try to do it when it's not fogged in. A ALL day run and very beautiful. You can't go wrong.✨😆🤘✨🇺🇸if you go to Santa Cruz it will be a ALL day gig but if you go back to SF from the bottom of 84 bout half a day. Also stop at Apple Jacks bar on 84 home of old school jokers and smokers like Niel Young. And the Greatful dead.
For some people 15000 is a normal year of riding (and all those issues though not major would be quite annoying if you had them all in one year). Had it not been under warranty, it would have cost you $$$$$$$
After having owned bikes of most major brands, there's 2 brands I've learned to stay away from: Ducati and KTM. They are sexy, fun, sound great, but you will visit your dealer more often than you'd like and it will cost you more than you expect (even when expecting higher costs).
Toooooo many problems ....nice looking bike but too expensive to buy and to own imho.
Nice, but expensive....yes, but that's every women and that doesn't stop us. It's all about return on investment.... smiles per miles.
@@FancyAnimal Bro I was thinking the same thing ...funny that you should say it !!!! As bad as an investment as it is...I will take the Ducati over a skirt any day...MGTOW bro.
@@FancyAnimal True that!!!!
I love how every Ducati owner has a hundred problems from a bew bike and thinks/acts like its ok.
Fucking Dainese! Just had the THIRD zipper break on my jacket today.
I recommend this as a replacement:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003W8EV84/
Now to get it resewn... or just get a new fucking jacket.
gsx s1000 26000 miles oil changes only I have a ducati s4 fun bike to ride ever 6000 cost money be safe nice bike wont buy another ducati you can get better for a lot lest
This video was phenomenally entertaining! Subbed!
TheString Breaker cheers mate!
Beautiful bike, they nailed the looks on the Panigale. You gotta love the bike to say "Rumors of heat with this bike are greatly exaggerated" I only have a burn marks on my leg but its not that bad :P I gotta say worst I ever got from my GSXR some very warm air blown at me by cooling fans when they kick in traffic at 105°C. Good vid :)
Much respect to the Japanese industrial-manufacturing base. They don't fuck up like Euro bikes.
Gotta lub the Golden Gay Bridge...how many pole smokers you think were conceived on this wonderous span.
Thanks for the review. I really appreciate it. I'm currently at the only point in my life I'll ever be at, with enough disposable income to go out and just buy a new bike. I expect kids will be demanded soon, and by the time that's over, I'll be surprised if there's much fun available at all that still powered by fossil fuels. I've got an old '56 Velocette, '79 Guzzi Lemans, an '88 650 HawkGT(BROS) and a '98 zx7r, and I love em all to bits for different reasons, (and I can convert them all to run on alcohol if I have to), but always wanted that Ducati.
It would have been a 916, but, my Mrs is German, and from a family obsessed with things being perfect, in order, reliable, of quality, and her dads told her all about older Ducati reliability and practicality. The other odd thing is that she's consistently encouraging the purchase, and she basically hates motorbikes. Dirty, smelly, dangerous, noisy, impracticle. This might be because I do a lot of miles, and I have to fix my bikes quite a lot as a result, (and that time could be spent fixing the house). The newest is 19 years old, and has a LOT on the clocks. In the past few months, I've had the original rad problems (fixed by replacing with one shipped from glorious un-salty California - £100 delivered to my door - gracias) Rearsets gear lever break (corroded through where joins the linkage), replaced front master cylinder, brake discs/pads, did my clearances, oil etc. I've got a spare set of forks ready to strip and replace the stanchions on, as I'll need that in a few K. It happens in gluts, and then I need to spend a chunk of cash to keep it roadworthy, and she thinks that would be better spent on a 'problem free' new bike.
She's also overheard all my youtubing while I learned about all these new electronics, cornering ABS, cornering traction control (both of which, I would rather like, as my commute in the UK is both long at 130 mile round trip, and there's often a sort of 'lucky-dip' type of surface around blind bends, maybe a giant puddle, maybe gravel after the puddle has gone, mud from farm traffic, diesel spills, etc...) and wants it to have all the latest and greatest 'rider saftey aids' cos she doesn't want me to die, which is nice, but it means I can't slip a 916, or a 1098/848 in under the radar, and I think even the 959 panigale lacks a lot of it (I'd have liked the 1098/1198, last of the line really, belts, steel trellis, fits my body too), and leaves me with the latest crop of superbikes. I'm partial to a Kawasaki, so thinking of a zx10r, plush suspension, good brakes, all the electronics, but no downchange on the quickshifter, unless you buy an RR (so I probably would cos its only another 2 grand), but, kinda, standard Jap styling - nothing to write home about. Not reeeeally into the S1000RR - it just doesn't make me need it, even though the heated grips would be lush in winter. I'm sure it's great, but somehow feels too utilitarian, and I don't need to win races on tracks. I'll be trying a fireblade SP2, just for shits and giggles, but I don't want it. I just fancy a go on the bike that McGuinness and Martin couldn't stay on, and getting a test ride is easy here. Rather buy an RC45! Or even an RC51. or both. Yamaha - I'm sure its great, but I'm not into it , it doesn't fit me, I'm tall - rather have a TZR250, (which I'd have a reason to be too big for), a Supermono, or an OWO2 for the money. Suzuki? no interest somehow. KTM - nope. But anyway, yeah, a good objective review - It'd be nice if I could find reviews of the BMW, the Kwak and the Duke all having done 3 British winters, but I think your review is about as close as I'm gonna get with that.
Is the headlight any good?
Great music.
Is it weird that I worry that, if I buy a 1299, in 20 years time, I might not be able to find petrol for it, and then due to all the electronics, it just won't run and I won't be able to ride it?
If you buy the Panigale S model, it comes equipped with LED headlights which are considerably brighter than conventional lighting. 1299S Panigale, 1290 SuperDuke, SuperDuke GT, Yamaha MT10, and Indian Scout are bikes I would check out.
An A/C unit may slip out of an apartment window 4 stories above your head as you walk by, so I guess you could worry about that instead.
This is a valid point, but you think we have A/C here? ;) Germans call this 'Worrying about unlaid eggs'.
I worry more about smashing into a deer, in the dark fog and murk of winter, but not until it nearly happens. Seriously though - they have the whole countryside to stand around in.
Acepants Tibs I've got the Ducati Streetfighter 848 and love it. I just bought the BMW S1000XR...I love that even more! Try it.
My Bone stock Panigale 164hp to the wheel, full termi exhaust, and bazzaz -FI. I now put 185hp to the wheel. I would say that is a pretty big power increase for the bike.
That's too many problems for a new motorcycle
All new motorcycles have an issue at some point. The service writer at our local Ducati dealership had to rebuild the engine on his 2015 R1. Which was out of his pocket because Japanese bikes only get 1 year warranties. Ironic lol
HAHAHA LOVE UR SINGING 😂
2 years later the duc is dead!!!
gixxer L7 508 no way chief. Fixed it and made 11Gs. Watch part 1 of the V4 review video.
Ball bearings in the steering head, that is good for a bicycle not a motorcycle let alone an expensive one. The reason for desmo valve gear came to an end by about the end of the thirties but if you can sell it for a profit just keep going.
My Monster 1100 EVO (2013) has 46.000km on it, nothing special done to it. Just like any other bike gets a yearly service.
funny video :D i bought my ducati and 25000 miles later no problems it has been very good couple minutes in the video later 1 problem 2nd problem ..... 40th problem i fix that and this and that , i love ducatis the look and sound definitely ferrari of bikes but god need as many repairs as Ferraris nice to look at but not to own . Japanese bikes got better on looks and they are still bulletproof just my 2 cents
Fancy animal...great video, great info👍👍
Why cant you guys make shorter video who has time to waste on a half hour video with info that can be covered in 5 min
Never one to waste a veiw .i hate audi drivers !beautiful bike and I agree why commute in a poxcey car !here in Scotland Ducati and TRIUMPH dealerships are together i chose TRIUMPH 🇬🇧 lovely bike my TRIUMPH 1050 RS SEAT is comfortable great video 👍🇬🇧
Not impractical? Some folks don't live in San Diego, deal with -30°F in the winter, ice and snow, have to haul groceries and other stuff, may work in a place where helmet hair smashed clothing, and motorcycle gear isn't acceptable. In such cases, motorcycles are "additional" to the practical piece (a climate controlled car). Hence not paying the price of an additional car without any of the practicality of a car.
Hey Brother good review, The intro I was like... what the fuck but was in tears by the time you got to the Gay part(LMFAO) any fucking who buying a 2017 Ducati 959 outta fucking Washington on the first and driving it back down. I just moved to South San Fran area. Maybe ill see you around. Drive safe
Ducati FUNNY GALLI ble NO to DUCS! You can buy another Japanese bike in a year time in maintenance cost. “Looks good outside Bad inside..Ducati” lo