From white supremacy to Barack Obama: The history of the Democratic Party

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  • @Arian545
    @Arian545 8 років тому +14630

    I can't believe how some people get angry at literal facts

    • @borcolfasno3749
      @borcolfasno3749 8 років тому +358

      um....ok then

    • @SASUSERNAME
      @SASUSERNAME 8 років тому +251

      Arian hmn yep look at liberals. Can't handle facts

    • @newday2310
      @newday2310 8 років тому +52

      thewanderandhiscomp
      Wowwwwww, did this^^ dumba** really just cite Snopes? What's next, rawstory?? -idiot

    • @Arian545
      @Arian545 8 років тому +478

      thewanderandhiscomp Nobody in the republican party seems to believe in climate change, and many of them are anti-vaxxers as well.

    • @newday2310
      @newday2310 8 років тому +25

      thewanderandhiscomp
      Graduated 2nd in my class from Shaw U. Please, educate me a little more on race and racism. -whitebread

  • @noahwiltsie6799
    @noahwiltsie6799 6 років тому +5883

    Let's just pass over how Wilson continued to push anti-Black policies

    • @leehongjin6884
      @leehongjin6884 5 років тому +387

      Franklin Roosevelt too for the Red-Lining policy, which affects the US even today.

    • @obiwankenobi4252
      @obiwankenobi4252 5 років тому +307

      And how Wilson indirectly caused the rise of communism and nazism

    • @kylewolnik1789
      @kylewolnik1789 5 років тому +230

      Wilson also only let women vote after he got the thought that the would re-elect him because he gave them voting rights

    • @slimestoneexpert9804
      @slimestoneexpert9804 5 років тому +10

      Kyle Wolnik yeah that’s a good thing

    • @slimestoneexpert9804
      @slimestoneexpert9804 5 років тому +3

      Obi Wan how?

  • @mintysoldaccount7266
    @mintysoldaccount7266 8 років тому +5425

    "the Republican party was unpopular among white southerners"
    oh how the times have changed

    • @idontgiveafaboutyou
      @idontgiveafaboutyou 6 років тому +148

      Mostly because Republicans keep the South prosperous

    • @cojo582
      @cojo582 6 років тому +39

      minty's old account
      no times changing have nothing to do with it,the democratic party changed,your dog whistle about whites says all i need to know about your racist ass.

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 6 років тому +182

      White southerners refused to turn to GOP because they always saw it as the party of Abraham Lincoln that beat them in the civil war.
      Southerners still don't like Abraham Lincoln.

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 6 років тому +152

      Gabrielia 69 The South is the poorest region in the country.

    • @cojo582
      @cojo582 6 років тому +35

      Michael Carranza
      lets see PRESIDENT TRUMP won the south,you have no idea what you are talking about.
      the problem is the socialist democrats are pissing on out gg grandfather's graves ,including mine.
      my gg gf served in the 6th LA CAV C.S.A. he did not won any slaves,as most of the men that served did not.
      "Less than 5% of the whites in the South owned slaves. Fully 3/4's of the white people of the South had neither slaves nor an immediate economic interest in the maintenance of slavery or the plantation system.
      This was written by none other than the late John Hope Franklin in From Slavery to Freedom, McGraw-Hill, 1994., p. 123. Franklin was a Harvard educated Professor Emeritus of History and Professor of Legal History at Duke University. Dr. Franklin also happened to be a Black man. This may come as an inconvient truth to some here".
      no one hates LINCOLN

  • @lukastheise1900
    @lukastheise1900 3 роки тому +2298

    "The republican party was bitterly unpopular among white southeners" is the strangest sentence from todays point of view xD

    • @joshuak2810
      @joshuak2810 3 роки тому +20

      How?

    • @lil18thletterking77
      @lil18thletterking77 3 роки тому +90

      @@joshuak2810 I know right...I was looking through the southern state legislatures and in for example the state of GA did not have a republican legislature all the way till 2011..barely 10 years ago

    • @kkandsims4612
      @kkandsims4612 2 роки тому +3

      I think cuz the parties flipped most northern s are not liberals progressives while the white southern are now conservatives and loyalists and history lovers they started democratic and the north was republican they wanted no slavery and much change now it’s largely the south that’s against it and the north is for change.

    • @SoCalRonnie
      @SoCalRonnie 2 роки тому +7

      The Republicans voted blacks in to congress. The Dems were against it. When the Republican whites aligned with the blacks they were targeted and killed as well. We are all black out of Africa with Eve passing her mitochondrial DNA to all humans alive today.

    • @jamesryansaluta3513
      @jamesryansaluta3513 2 роки тому +18

      @@lil18thletterking77 Louisiana also has a Democrat governor

  • @aumnia
    @aumnia 4 роки тому +2117

    There is no good party just good people

    • @aumnia
      @aumnia 4 роки тому +2

      @Don't worry about it Why don't you elaborate

    • @sebas.4524
      @sebas.4524 4 роки тому +14

      @Don't worry about it good thing republicans only do good.

    • @bab2thebone1
      @bab2thebone1 4 роки тому +7

      I agree

    • @ulyssesgrant4324
      @ulyssesgrant4324 4 роки тому +42

      You can have a better party, which is historically the Republican Party

    • @aumnia
      @aumnia 4 роки тому +103

      @@ulyssesgrant4324 Well until you count the party switch when Republican policies back then aligned more with the Democratic Party. But once again no good party, just good people.

  • @boatygatling4782
    @boatygatling4782 8 років тому +1924

    Half the time Vox is a liberal network, other half it just tries to educate us. This is the time when it tries to educate us about our history, why hate on this video?

    • @dimon310192
      @dimon310192 8 років тому +338

      because people themselves are biased and have defense mechanisms in place to prevent any challenge to their reality.

    • @Ryekenhoshin23
      @Ryekenhoshin23 8 років тому +31

      Perhaps you need to look up the word "Liberal"

    • @newday2310
      @newday2310 8 років тому +63

      Boaty Gatling
      Because you're a complete f**king idiot if you think VOX is educating you. Democrats are still the party of racism and segregation. Minorities didn't elect Obama; Goldman Sacs and Citigroup did, and then they selected his first 31 cabinet appointees. This garbage is just more propaganda for sheltered white snowflakes. #pseudointellectuals

    • @janmarkiewicz6246
      @janmarkiewicz6246 8 років тому +8

      u forgot about the hip hop

    • @pizza9213
      @pizza9213 8 років тому +58

      yeah democrats the racist party... the kkk is republican

  • @dp28784u
    @dp28784u 5 років тому +3563

    Prager U and Vox should really have a debate on something...

    • @brandonchan5620
      @brandonchan5620 5 років тому +937

      Doesn't Prager U have no credibility? I heard that they distort facts, data and generally don't explain history correctly or fully.

    • @Jerweh
      @Jerweh 5 років тому +587

      who says vox doesn't either how do we know there facts are reliable

    • @fattyspapers9102
      @fattyspapers9102 5 років тому +445

      Watch some and do your own research. Vox lies in every video as a rule.

    • @mingkeng7305
      @mingkeng7305 5 років тому +164

      @@brandonchan5620 so is vox

    • @laylamorrison9596
      @laylamorrison9596 5 років тому +58

      That would honestly be epic.

  • @BosleyBeats
    @BosleyBeats Рік тому +368

    What’s funny is in the black community we are very aware of this history. And when we were used for votes it was for hope of new opportunities and the tone flipped aligning to a new era of stereotypes and agendas. This is why it’s important to study history and listen to everyone’s voices and how they were affected

    • @JohnWarner-lu8rq
      @JohnWarner-lu8rq Рік тому

      Yep... and that mostly started with Pres. Johnson, and ever since the left gets and keeps as many Blacks and minorities as possible on the government plantation.

    • @gregorymckenzie-moore6621
      @gregorymckenzie-moore6621 Рік тому +2

      You are not "we." I hope YOU have read things about...say Ida B. Wells. Of course... I doubt it.

    • @JohnWarner-lu8rq
      @JohnWarner-lu8rq Рік тому +30

      @@gregorymckenzie-moore6621 Obviously he was speaking of people he knows, which isn't you.

    • @stivsham
      @stivsham Рік тому +16

      just put God 1st, and live by his rules, no politician will make your life better, trust me, am 100% sure about that,

    • @polyento3535
      @polyento3535 Рік тому +17

      @@gregorymckenzie-moore6621 Liberal hurt detected.

  • @firstnamelastname7113
    @firstnamelastname7113 4 роки тому +2314

    Woodrow Wilson: **exists**
    Vox: I’m pretend I didn’t see that

    • @bradleychandler8512
      @bradleychandler8512 4 роки тому +107

      @First Name Last Name Precisely. They also left out how only 1 of 21 southern democratic senators ever switched parties. The one who was Biden’s best buddy and mentor.

    • @Steph-sb9tc
      @Steph-sb9tc 4 роки тому +10

      Lute Pehin i dont think a lot of people know this...

    • @henk-3098
      @henk-3098 4 роки тому +22

      @@bradleychandler8512 But eventually they died off, and white southerners started to send republican senators to congress instead.

    • @bradleychandler8512
      @bradleychandler8512 4 роки тому +56

      @@henk-3098 Do you think “white southerners” are the same people in 2020 that “white southerners” were in 1820? Do you think every racial or geographical demographic has been completely stagnant for 60 years, or 160 years?

    • @kristjanrom9429
      @kristjanrom9429 4 роки тому +1

      Lol

  • @nowhereman4319
    @nowhereman4319 4 роки тому +598

    These two parties have ruined this country

    • @nevergetsthejoke3169
      @nevergetsthejoke3169 4 роки тому +101

      Really have, I wish people voted for the candidate, and not the party

    • @williambrewer9069
      @williambrewer9069 4 роки тому +34

      @Nowhere Man It's why alot of people don't understand why and how Trump got elected. People are tired of both parties and coincidentally what you said goes over people's heads as they now believe the parties don't like Trump for legitimate reasons, and not just to place blame on the person trying to actually purge the Washington Mafia Machine.

    • @1232-z4n
      @1232-z4n 4 роки тому +4

      Bushx2 Nixon and Trump are from the same party

    • @Syrup__Maple
      @Syrup__Maple 4 роки тому +1

      Hello, based department?

    • @aarontactical
      @aarontactical 4 роки тому +38

      It’s mostly the Democrats

  • @r_pqi4355
    @r_pqi4355 5 років тому +1474

    Bruh moment in the comments

  • @PappyP
    @PappyP 11 місяців тому +429

    Imagine telling Lincoln that the we had a black president and it was in the democratic party

    • @naijaplayer
      @naijaplayer 4 місяці тому +45

      It just might blow his mind

    • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
      @GustavoSilva-ny8jc 4 місяці тому +20

      Lincoln: SO WE WON???!!!! My ideals came true???
      We: Yes, but actually no
      😂😂😂

    • @Freespazfreesumo
      @Freespazfreesumo 4 місяці тому +13

      @@GustavoSilva-ny8jc Lincoln ideas never supported a black president in the first place so I can imagine that revelation would be very big for him.

  • @The.Renovator
    @The.Renovator 8 років тому +1269

    i always wondered how the parties ended up switching ideoligies and values so much

    • @mikejennette8478
      @mikejennette8478 8 років тому +26

      Calikid331 nixons southern strategy sparked it more than the civil rights act

    • @andymorejon2am
      @andymorejon2am 8 років тому +140

      It has not mate, democrats are still white supremist in disguise. They just need them minority votes.

    • @DanJuega
      @DanJuega 8 років тому +67

      Andy Morejon ehhhhh nooooo....

    • @Dantewinning
      @Dantewinning 8 років тому +152

      they didn't I think the democratic party is still racist they just hide it more

    • @andymorejon2am
      @andymorejon2am 8 років тому +22

      Dante Cammz exactly

  • @StevenSeagull6969
    @StevenSeagull6969 4 роки тому +638

    I still don't know why they took me off the grocery store shelves.

    • @arshan6760
      @arshan6760 4 роки тому +14

      Lol

    • @lol-ku1wl
      @lol-ku1wl 4 роки тому +59

      Maybe the democratic party hasn’t changed. They didn’t like you then and they definitely don’t like you now...

    • @xX_wiLLiam_Xx
      @xX_wiLLiam_Xx 4 роки тому +2

      Rakist!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @root-beer
      @root-beer 4 роки тому +2

      RIP

    • @dartagnan9094
      @dartagnan9094 4 роки тому +5

      @@polecat3 what's so racist about it

  • @WillyTheComposerOfficial
    @WillyTheComposerOfficial 8 років тому +485

    Awww come on you didn't mention John F Kennedy or Lyndon Johnson! They're entire reason the south went Republican!! (they did temporarily go back once for Carter, but that's just because of Nixon's folly)

    • @AngryKittens
      @AngryKittens 8 років тому +49

      Yeah, they omitted the Dixiecrat part and just glossed over how massive the issue of desegregation really was in post-WW2 US.

    • @plzfixwolves955
      @plzfixwolves955 8 років тому +9

      thetick532 because he was from the South and also they weren't happy with George H.W Bush.

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 8 років тому +3

      and no mention of McGovern or the DLCIt's incomplete without them

    • @samlipton7872
      @samlipton7872 7 років тому +9

      Super late comment, but if you check out their video on the history of Republicans, they go over this in more detail.

    • @durojayieheru74
      @durojayieheru74 7 років тому +3

      WillyTheComposer Go to prager

  • @PeterPan-qb3tb
    @PeterPan-qb3tb 11 місяців тому +30

    The democrats party have not changed they become smart with marketing and manipulation what they say is not the policy they push. Very clever

  • @FilthyTrot
    @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +221

    Eleanor Roosevelt also played a pretty significant role in the transition with her support of civil rights which caused the Democratic Party to gain African American votes.

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 2 роки тому +15

      So true. She was instrumental in changing the Democratic party to one that champions Civil Rights...

    • @r.d.9399
      @r.d.9399 2 роки тому +1

      It was all for votes. They never did anything to help black people. Look at the large majority of their communities today. Underfunded, bad education, terrible infrastructure, gang violence and broken families all because of democrat policies.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 2 роки тому

      @@r.d.9399 While the Democratic Party may be less open about their racism than the Republican Party, the truth is neither party is truly willing to fight capitalist exploitation-the root cause of economic inequality between black Americans and white Americans.

    • @gdiaz8827
      @gdiaz8827 2 роки тому +10

      @@jamellfoster6029 really which cities controlled by Democrats have been successful in combating racism and poverty

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 2 роки тому +1

      Innit odd how Minneapolis is a D city, and that's where Floyd died.
      Innit odd how Chicago had over 150 people shot in a single weekend - the same weekend after Floyd died - and is run by Democrats.
      (Don't mind me...just noticing a thing or two.)

  • @ZaidKhan-dc4wo
    @ZaidKhan-dc4wo 4 роки тому +843

    Democrats be like: we were bad but now we are good. Hahaaha

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 роки тому +268

      Republicans be like :we were good but......

    • @ryanskalman7725
      @ryanskalman7725 4 роки тому +104

      If you're referring to the big switch it was a lie the parties are still the same just with a different platform the core philosophies remain the same

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +232

      @@ryanskalman7725 Oh yeah, that must be why the Democratic Party made Barack Obama its nominee and why Donald Trump who's essentially become the Republican Party empathizes with and is as popular as he is among white supremacists.

    • @KeshawnPro2016
      @KeshawnPro2016 4 роки тому +7

      democrats underwent a face turn

    • @tablo1394
      @tablo1394 4 роки тому +11

      Ryan Skalman both parties support big government, they always have. Just their stances on small issues have reversed.

  • @topherkrock
    @topherkrock 6 років тому +422

    Woodrow Wilson is the hero you chose? Here's something this facetious film won't tell you:
    "During Wilson's term, segregation was ordered in the Washington offices of the Navy, the Treasury, and the Postmaster General, and photographs became required for all new federal job applicants. After black leaders pressed him, President Wilson explained he was trying to 'reduce friction,' and that he 'sincerely believe[d] it to be in their interest.' Under Wilson, racial segregation was quickly implemented at the Post Office Department, and many African-American employees were downgraded and even fired. Employees who were downgraded were transferred to the dead letter office, where they did not interact with the public. The few African Americans who remained at the main post offices were put to work behind screens, out of customers' sight."
    #LearnHistory

    • @kenneth9452
      @kenneth9452 5 років тому +33

      @Jesus Christ It was the Democrats who implemented the trail of tears, it was the Democrats who put millions of innocent Japanese American citizens in concentration camps, it was the Democrats who advocated for Eugenics.

    • @g.a.b.e7085
      @g.a.b.e7085 5 років тому +12

      @@blessedbybelldandy3765 preach!!

    • @daveyjones3016
      @daveyjones3016 5 років тому +2

      @Jesus Christ amen

    • @gibransaliba8801
      @gibransaliba8801 5 років тому +1

      The Democrats protected slavery thinking they did blacks a favor. Woodrow Wilson thought he was protecting blacks from white people when he allowed Jim Crow. The Democrats will always hurt black people unintentionally

    • @joshuasmith6668
      @joshuasmith6668 5 років тому +15

      @@gibransaliba8801 it is completely intentional, how is keeping them as slaves helping them you fucktard

  • @capncake8837
    @capncake8837 Місяць тому +12

    5:48 That was a reasonable prediction, but it aged poorly. 😂

  • @joshuafay5975
    @joshuafay5975 4 роки тому +627

    Literally skipped over 50 years. 1950s to 2000.

    • @matthewarnold4557
      @matthewarnold4557 4 роки тому +34

      You're right, I'm very interested in the Johnson and Goldwater era

    • @davilimalol4612
      @davilimalol4612 4 роки тому +20

      4:02 until like, the end of the video? They didn't brush over that.

    • @naysaynetwork5271
      @naysaynetwork5271 4 роки тому +33

      Democrats don’t read. Y’all read the headline and develop an opinion.

    • @michaelgarybell2010
      @michaelgarybell2010 4 роки тому +22

      The civil rights act of 1964 occurred in 1964 an important fact that was highlighted because it demonstrated 4:30 how "segregated" the democrats were on civil rights. The anti-civil rights democrats would become known as "dixie-crats" and ultimately republicans.

    • @RangeMasaca
      @RangeMasaca 4 роки тому +8

      A J Lincoln was racist too. You should go look up some of his views. He didn’t even want to abolish slavery if he didn’t have to, he just didn’t want it to expand into new states. 🥴 All this proves to black people like me is that white Americans, regardless of party, have by and large been racist for the majority of this country’s history. Only white people care about dunking on each other over transitory party platforms.

  • @parkerlarson6692
    @parkerlarson6692 4 роки тому +205

    This states the right facts just not all the facts

    • @améliehester6996
      @améliehester6996 4 роки тому +3

      Looks like you didn't listen.

    • @louisfoley6955
      @louisfoley6955 4 роки тому +11

      Tell me some of the facts they were missing. Besides FDR and the Japanese. Repubs would've done a similar thing.

    • @morganmarsh1276
      @morganmarsh1276 4 роки тому +13

      @@louisfoley6955 but Republicans gave them their money and released them...

    • @Evili555
      @Evili555 4 роки тому +7

      @@louisfoley6955 nah republicans wouldn’t have done it because republicans don’t believe in big government

    • @NT-gu8ql
      @NT-gu8ql 4 роки тому +9

      @@Evili555 No, republicans are big government too. Just look at the federal budget deficit under Donald Trump.

  • @thatsjustmygame5148
    @thatsjustmygame5148 4 роки тому +134

    I've always wondered where the donkey for the democratic party originated from. You learn something new everyday

    • @jdamah
      @jdamah 3 роки тому +23

      It represents the intelligence of Democrats

    • @ronmc1677
      @ronmc1677 3 роки тому +8

      @@jdamah Ha! Good one

    • @jdamah
      @jdamah 3 роки тому +16

      @@fernandocarloto2291 elephants are smarter than donkeys

    • @HP0134
      @HP0134 3 роки тому +5

      @@jdamah That doesn’t apply in real life though!

    • @Tokomi
      @Tokomi 2 роки тому

      @@HP0134 really does, whole world is pretty much under democrat/liberal control and its been getting nothing but worse. Then you all conveniently blame covid and fear mongered a flu like virus kept lockdowns going but let big business run. Yeah it does apply to real life. A bit too much sadly

  • @starfishprime7721
    @starfishprime7721 4 роки тому +676

    I feel like they missed some stuff with Roosevelt and the Japanese

    • @alessiodelcastillo1613
      @alessiodelcastillo1613 4 роки тому +90

      TBF there are still racist Democrats today, just not as many as Republicans

    • @luigiinfinite5305
      @luigiinfinite5305 4 роки тому +74

      @@alessiodelcastillo1613 there are way more racists in the democratic party. They are just racist towards white people.

    • @zachi2901
      @zachi2901 4 роки тому +103

      @@luigiinfinite5305 how are white people being racist towards white people lol

    • @luigiinfinite5305
      @luigiinfinite5305 4 роки тому +39

      @@zachi2901 yes that is a thing, if a black person said Whites are Superior to blacks then even though he is black it is racist against blacks. What the democratic party does is it calls all Republican white people white supremacists and treats all blacks and women as victims while white men are the big bads.

    • @Hhhhhh-sz9ud
      @Hhhhhh-sz9ud 4 роки тому +12

      Luigi Infinite What Democratic official has done that?

  • @musicaddict4214
    @musicaddict4214 4 роки тому +451

    If you're scrolling through the comments and don't see horrible comments, go to the recent section

  • @awesomepeter2166
    @awesomepeter2166 8 років тому +297

    "The Republican Party was bitterly unpopular among white southerners." Ohh how things have changed

    • @ericclaeyborn8359
      @ericclaeyborn8359 5 років тому +61

      The same people don't live in the south or the north because they have all died. So naturally, they aren't the same. Opinions do change.

    • @robesterd8132
      @robesterd8132 5 років тому +41

      @@ericclaeyborn8359 LOL pretty sure the whole white southern racist thing hasn't changed.

    • @devioustea
      @devioustea 5 років тому +53

      @@robesterd8132 I haven't seen any white racist. Only a bunch of blacks being racist.

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 5 років тому +11

      @@godswatching2863 What do you think of the confederate flag?

    • @tannermoorehead1536
      @tannermoorehead1536 5 років тому +39

      @@josecarranza7555 The confederate flag doesn't mean "I love slavery." Do your research and stop listening to your gender studies professor. No, I don't agree with slavery, but the confederate flag was based off of states rights not slavery. Thats what the left tries to put into people's brains. Slavery was a democratic ideology not republican

  • @jeffb8562
    @jeffb8562 3 роки тому +522

    I remember some of this, when history was actually taught in school. Didn’t understand all of it, because politics was left out of it.
    Scary they are slowly teaching less and less of this

    • @dlop3780
      @dlop3780 2 роки тому

      Be careful because the big lie was taught in public schools. The lie that the two political parties switched.

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 2 роки тому +4

      Lies again? Powered By AWS

    • @Febreze99
      @Febreze99 2 роки тому +4

      😂... They're not teaching it at all.

    • @mezoaro
      @mezoaro 2 роки тому +26

      That is wrong, my history class taught me all about this. Just a week ago we discussed the new deal

    • @georgeo7167
      @georgeo7167 2 роки тому

      The irony now the Democratic Party want to teach lgbtq agendas

  • @ethantaylor9613
    @ethantaylor9613 4 роки тому +588

    I do think it’s important to note that despite how terrible Jackson was in most respect he did remove the property requirement from the vote.

    • @ivanpcr6732
      @ivanpcr6732 4 роки тому +49

      for white men only*

    • @temper1337
      @temper1337 4 роки тому +103

      @@ivanpcr6732 What he did was still a step in the right direction. Otherwise when black people were finally able to vote, they wouldn't be able to do it because they weren't property owners. Jackson also fought against banks and against the electoral college. He is considered by historians to be "the people's president" for a reason, not the "white man's president". Read up a bit on history and you will see that it is not black and white as you think it is. Abraham Lincoln for example proposed that blacks should be sent back to africa.

    • @ulyssesgrant4324
      @ulyssesgrant4324 4 роки тому +16

      He also removed the National debt for two years

    • @ulyssesgrant4324
      @ulyssesgrant4324 4 роки тому +9

      @@kevindebruyne4814 comparing hitler and Jackson is a not a good comparison

    • @adawm
      @adawm 4 роки тому +2

      @@ulyssesgrant4324 I agree with you but I see his point, both were horrible men in history who had full hate and discrimination. You don't have to have a brain to hate Hitler, but it doesn't make sense to me why there are still so many Americans who like Andrew Jackson. He may have done little good for our democracy, but it was only in spite because he lost the election to John Quincy Adams.

  • @daborinkid7279
    @daborinkid7279 4 роки тому +195

    why are people mad over facts? what ever happened to facts over feelings?

    • @last2first167
      @last2first167 4 роки тому +65

      As a Hispanic I believe Hispanics are transitioning to Republican since last year.

    • @daborinkid7279
      @daborinkid7279 4 роки тому +24

      Last2First 1 yeah but since the black lives matter thing happened and since trump has handled COVID 19 poorly alot of people have moved back to the democratic party

    • @last2first167
      @last2first167 4 роки тому +55

      @@daborinkid7279 All people I know who was Democrat hasn't moved back LOL. Black Lives Matter made it worse because they demonize a lot of churches and made riots. I use to hate trump when he got elected but I realized Republican are Pro God and I agree with most of the stuff they speech. I agree with the part you said Trump handled the pandemic badly I give you that.

    • @daborinkid7279
      @daborinkid7279 4 роки тому +4

      Last2First 1 yeah thats the people you know, alot of people i know from across the country switched parties bc of blm, (not saying BLM accomplished anything just saying that alot of people support it)

    • @last2first167
      @last2first167 4 роки тому +19

      @@daborinkid7279 I live in California a (Blue State) over here they have mixed parties now weird because they would always be on the Demo side. Alot of people supporting BLM is a sign how evil will over take and disguise itself as Heroic, Black lives do matter also Every life Jesus brought us here.

  • @mrlearningscholar4078
    @mrlearningscholar4078 4 роки тому +378

    I am a liberal Democrat and I acknowledge the parties history

    • @malikjohnson4772
      @malikjohnson4772 4 роки тому +22

      Good

    • @drexel4290
      @drexel4290 4 роки тому +20

      Funny seeing as your party was originally the liberal republican party 😂😂😂

    • @BlitzzOrAnt
      @BlitzzOrAnt 4 роки тому +2

      @@drexel4290 and I've been democracy since my family went to America

    • @BlitzzOrAnt
      @BlitzzOrAnt 4 роки тому

      @@drexel4290 and they were pilgrams

    • @drexel4290
      @drexel4290 4 роки тому +24

      @@BlitzzOrAnt were not a democracy though we're a republic

  • @earlycuyler9760
    @earlycuyler9760 2 роки тому +60

    “I’ll have those (omitted) voting democrat for 100 years” LBJ

    • @sth02
      @sth02 4 місяці тому +2

      Never confirmed to have said that. It was recounted by a flight attendant who claims they overheard it while LBJ was speaking to someone else a few decades after the fact.

  • @mfwhom5214
    @mfwhom5214 8 років тому +182

    I'm a simple man. All I want are videos on Bees or hip hop.

  • @jamiegomez162
    @jamiegomez162 5 років тому +278

    Hey, is never late to change your values and standards. Is not the a party to blame is the ppl.

    • @ryanskalman7725
      @ryanskalman7725 4 роки тому +16

      Actually no the party is still the same if you look at both of the Parties core philosophies in 1860 and now they are practically identical

    • @torikens7797
      @torikens7797 4 роки тому +8

      @@ryanskalman7725 hummm NO

    • @kingvolt8694
      @kingvolt8694 4 роки тому +5

      Torikens um YES

    • @kingvolt8694
      @kingvolt8694 4 роки тому +3

      Arturo Carrillo if you’re here illegally then I agree. Go back. If you’re here legally then nah stay. Democrats are the most racist to me.

    • @dougbutcher4452
      @dougbutcher4452 4 роки тому +6

      They never changed their values, just their tactics.

  • @SweetjamesjonesII
    @SweetjamesjonesII 4 роки тому +267

    They never changed they just switched their strategy

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +35

      Well, at least they're no longer the more racist party in the US.

    • @ManuelPerez-ef2ym
      @ManuelPerez-ef2ym 4 роки тому +66

      @@FilthyTrot they switched strategy, not ideology silly

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +54

      @@ManuelPerez-ef2ym Yeah, a racist political party would definitely make Barack Obama its nominee.

    • @ManuelPerez-ef2ym
      @ManuelPerez-ef2ym 4 роки тому +73

      @@FilthyTrot yes. Look at all the progressive racial work that obama did... the black community is disappointed in the sweet nothing that Obama turned out to be for 8years.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +24

      @@ManuelPerez-ef2ym Obama sure accomplished a lot. He ended the war in Iraq and gave the order that led to Osama Bin Laden's death. He also signed the Affordable Care Act in 2011. The point is that if the Democratic Party didn't change since the 1800s, it wouldn't have gone from the party of slavery and white supremacy to the party that nominated the first African American US President.

  • @kingleonidas6092
    @kingleonidas6092 2 місяці тому +9

    People do realise that they still think this way right?

    • @user-mx6ut6tm1t
      @user-mx6ut6tm1t 2 місяці тому +1

      unfortunately they don't, the dems got them so braindead they can't even see such an obvious fact 🤦‍♂

  • @amoltandon2900
    @amoltandon2900 3 роки тому +63

    The amount of baseless comments that "you liberals are like this" and "you conservatives are like that" is sheer stupidity and the cause of the internal problems we face as a nation today.

    • @Emmatriaaa
      @Emmatriaaa 3 роки тому +10

      And I’m here for those comments. They’re hilarious to read, seeing how people who clearly haven’t mentally matured are still seeing politics as a form of “bad guys vs good guys.”

    • @manmadehighlights5648
      @manmadehighlights5648 10 місяців тому +1

      2 years later and this comment still stands

  • @sidbell2722
    @sidbell2722 8 років тому +452

    I feel like they've already made this video before

    • @schmurble2254
      @schmurble2254 8 років тому +139

      Sid Bell
      Nah, that one was about the Republican shift from Lincoln to Trump. This one focuses more on the Democrats.

    • @alexanderdavidsonbryan7264
      @alexanderdavidsonbryan7264 8 років тому +26

      there was a very similar one about the Republican Party.

    • @christianvennemann9008
      @christianvennemann9008 8 років тому +15

      Sid Bell
      They made one about the Republican Party and how they started with Lincoln but ended up with Trump.

    • @JayTuberTaken
      @JayTuberTaken 8 років тому +9

      They have, but for the Republican Party.

    • @vaibhavgupta20
      @vaibhavgupta20 8 років тому +1

      Sync can you provide the link.

  • @abeIincoIn
    @abeIincoIn 3 роки тому +195

    Everybody: wiLSon fRom 120 yeArS aGo wAs rAciSt sO deMonCraATs aRe
    What they forgot: *Calvin Coolage* and *Barry Goldwater*

    • @Skipxl
      @Skipxl 3 роки тому +16

      Calvin Coolage racist? This has to be a joke post

    • @abeIincoIn
      @abeIincoIn 3 роки тому +45

      @@Skipxl He signed one of the most racist things ever.

    • @arnavthegreat4483
      @arnavthegreat4483 3 роки тому +2

      @@abeIincoIn you were also not a saint you only banned slavery so that it would not hurt white working class

    • @abeIincoIn
      @abeIincoIn 3 роки тому +34

      @@arnavthegreat4483 only? so if someone banned something where you grab someone out of there country and make them work without pay and get treated like property. yea that's "only" one thing. Also abe freed the slaves not bc the white working class but because the conf. shot first. Did you even do your research?

    • @abeIincoIn
      @abeIincoIn 3 роки тому +19

      @@arnavthegreat4483 And so I can't disavow racism without being a saint? When did I say I was a saint???

  • @sunshinedoesit8272
    @sunshinedoesit8272 Рік тому +16

    Thank you for keeping it real! Real American history 💯.. I will forward this because this was well put and I've been trying to tell many people this for a long time.❤

    • @Lukeannulis
      @Lukeannulis Рік тому +1

      You think vox tells “real American history” 😂

  • @coolmdj111
    @coolmdj111 8 років тому +543

    Hey *+Vox*... These videos have major effin' quality! Makes me think that the resources you use to show the data *visually* may not be that big of a deal to acquire in general, as much as I'd imagined. More so, the portrayal of that data is appealing to watch and I *want to* keep my eyes on the screen for it. Kudos to the guy who made the video. Although I sometimes *cringe* upon some of the voiceovers you have when they don't always pronounce their consonants completely. I hope you can change that... Other than that, I really like watching what you guys make and "thumbing up" when I can.

    • @Vox
      @Vox  8 років тому +74

      Thanks for the feedback! Glad you like the videos. Sorry my voice over makes you cringe. -Johnny

    • @pizza9213
      @pizza9213 8 років тому +22

      Vox can you make more videos like these, I prefer them.

    • @theharristrain
      @theharristrain 8 років тому +26

      wow. this does not belong in the youtube comments section. you can't be nice. you need to be angry and racist and swear at people who disagree with you. get out

    • @newday2310
      @newday2310 8 років тому +1

      Mak Shethiya
      God forbid I hope you don't go off and quote any of this bullsh** to real black intellectuals (and not the Leftcoast/N.East -pseudo variety). You'll look like a total dumba**.

    • @pedromaxadinho
      @pedromaxadinho 8 років тому

      Ikr? And sometimes he vocalizes too much, like, it's too much air coming out

  • @ismailthaoutlaw
    @ismailthaoutlaw 3 роки тому +49

    From white supremacy to Barack Obama to Joe 🅱️iden
    From Lincoln to Trump to Marjorie Taylor Greene

    • @ismailthaoutlaw
      @ismailthaoutlaw 3 роки тому +4

      @FedEXfright My sources: US Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment Rate. For the 11% of black people voting Trump statistic, it's the Exit Polling section under the 2020 Presidential Election's wikipedia page.

    • @jdamah
      @jdamah 3 роки тому +3

      @@ismailthaoutlaw exit polls? Created by the media lol.

    • @jdamah
      @jdamah 3 роки тому

      @@ismailthaoutlaw and the US Bureau should tell you the unemployment rates

    • @darkutopia0423
      @darkutopia0423 3 роки тому +6

      if that is true why did Trump have a larger share of the Black vote in 2020 than in 2016 ?

    • @ismailthaoutlaw
      @ismailthaoutlaw 3 роки тому +4

      @@darkutopia0423 What does this have to do with anything, I just said how he is what the GOP has been today? Plus he still lost the black vote 87-12-1 lol (the 1 was for other candidates)

  • @desertshadow72
    @desertshadow72 4 роки тому +102

    They're still obsessed with race

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +21

      Well, what do you mean? The Democratic Party in the US has overwhelmingly the most support from minorities and nominated the first African American US President.

    • @fadli_1577
      @fadli_1577 4 роки тому +14

      @@FilthyTrot obama mother was white

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +15

      @@fadli_1577 So what? Doesn't that help my point?

    • @therambler3713
      @therambler3713 4 роки тому +50

      @@FilthyTrot Racism doesn't just come from white people. It can come from anyone. So it doesn't matter how diverse the Democrats are.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +6

      @@therambler3713 Well, it's not like there aren't white Democrats. The Democratic Presidential nominee's white, just as the Vice Presidential nominee isn't.

  • @colitipal
    @colitipal 5 місяців тому +6

    Do an 8-year update for this. The current title for this is now “From White Supremacy to Kamala Harris”

  • @muskrrat5585
    @muskrrat5585 8 років тому +631

    I feel dislikes in the force.

    • @somethingserious2108
      @somethingserious2108 8 років тому +6

      Llama Gaming we all do

    • @newday2310
      @newday2310 8 років тому +18

      Llama Gaming
      Yep, still beating a dead horse. Democrats are still the party of racism and segregation. Minorities didn't elect Obama; Goldman Sacs and Citigroup did, and then they selected his first 31 cabinet appointees. This garbage is just more propaganda for sheltered white snowflakes. #pseudointellectuals

    • @BlackStarrSoul
      @BlackStarrSoul 8 років тому +26

      Kyle H.
      Your comment made me laugh.
      Your profile picture is a picture of a racist-ass team. What race and gender are you?

    • @negsen4817
      @negsen4817 8 років тому +5

      How? It seems pretty historical to me

    • @elidoubleday8080
      @elidoubleday8080 8 років тому +5

      Llama Gaming if it was negative toward Republicans it would have more

  • @Gabowsk
    @Gabowsk 3 роки тому +88

    Vox: **literally expresses historical facts**
    Americans: And I took that personally.

    • @lizadonrex
      @lizadonrex 3 роки тому +13

      Expresses some facts as they pleased

    • @justinnamuco9096
      @justinnamuco9096 3 роки тому +12

      **And omits the most important ones**

    • @jakeweberzwier8655
      @jakeweberzwier8655 3 роки тому +9

      Like how the democrats are still the party of racism

    • @jamesmartin6750
      @jamesmartin6750 3 роки тому +7

      @@jakeweberzwier8655 How is the Democratic Party still the racist party? Are you even paying attention to modern politics?

    • @jakeweberzwier8655
      @jakeweberzwier8655 3 роки тому +20

      @@jamesmartin6750 have you? Do you think all these identity politics placing people into categories of society based on race and racial radicalization of America's history in public education is not at all racist? I notice democrats talk a lot more about racism than republicans.
      Republicans have always been the party of antiracism

  • @shinypinecone
    @shinypinecone 8 років тому +185

    Sadly the Democratic party is becoming more corporate than anything else. we need to prevent this by voting for candidates such as Bernie and Elizabeth Warren.
    Edit: Looks like being Corporate just cost Hillary the election...i'm both frightened and oddly satisfied to see her lose.

    • @danielsingh789
      @danielsingh789 8 років тому +11

      shinypinecone agreed, but so is the republican party. there should be a change in the political system as a whole. they all are corrupt and the only thing that can really stop someone is a lack of money for funding.

    • @themasstermwahahahah
      @themasstermwahahahah 8 років тому +1

      shinypinecone But they are not running, so we should vote for the next best thing, Hillary

    • @calebh.9996
      @calebh.9996 8 років тому +1

      Or stein, who is running currently.

    • @kierasher1
      @kierasher1 8 років тому +8

      We did. Tons of us voted for Bernie and our voices were heard. The DNC platform has changed to include a lot of what we want, and we are not stopping there. We are going after local and senate races, and will keep bringing a storm of new and young voices to primaries to ensure that our desires are met over big money. If they want to keep that vote, they are going to have to remove a lot of the money from politics because that money will be used against them for having to listen to their voters.

    • @danielsingh789
      @danielsingh789 8 років тому +1

      Kier Simmons love what u r saying, agree with ur thoughts but not enough is happening to stop this.

  • @TheCr0wing
    @TheCr0wing Рік тому +8

    I wouldn't say they switched, they just changed. Neither were representative of what they are today

  • @ruiningwang1644
    @ruiningwang1644 8 років тому +643

    Thank you for these two videos! I think they show perfectly how meaningless partisanship is. There is really no such thing as a Democrat or a Republican. Political parties are defined at each moment by their leadership, their voter base, and other key actors they want to draw support from.
    Maybe we need to recognize that we all want the same thing: a safe humane and thriving environment in which to live and prosper. We might focus on different issues but we have to recognize that the concerns on the other side are just as real. And we might disagree on the methods but on what basis should we start hating and feeling disgust toward each other?
    Before it's too late we need to re-learn to feel empathy toward the people we strongly disagree with.

    • @wes4522
      @wes4522 3 роки тому +11

      One is racist and lies and the other wants to help the country?

    • @TheJoseG
      @TheJoseG 3 роки тому +11

      @@wes4522 which is which?

    • @TheJoseG
      @TheJoseG 3 роки тому

      Well put Rui

    • @godjhaka7376
      @godjhaka7376 3 роки тому

      We don't all want that. Democrats and Republicans want wealth for themselves so they take money from corporations, keep all other races beneath them in the name of white supremacy

    • @orkkojit
      @orkkojit 2 роки тому

      @@wes4522 partisan

  • @mick8669
    @mick8669 6 місяців тому +6

    When you think about racial equality and civil rights, which political party comes to mind? The Republicans? Or, the Democrats? Most people would probably say the Democrats. But this answer is incorrect.
    Since its founding in 1829, the Democratic Party has fought against every major civil rights initiative, and has a long history of discrimination.
    The Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, opposed Reconstruction, founded the Ku Klux Klan, imposed segregation, perpetrated lynchings, and fought against the civil rights acts of the 1950s and 1960s.
    In contrast, the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an anti-slavery party. Its mission was to stop the spread of slavery into the new western territories with the aim of abolishing it entirely. This effort, however, was dealt a major blow by the Supreme Court. In the 1857 case Dred Scott v. Sandford, the court ruled that slaves aren’t citizens; they’re property. The seven justices who voted in favor of slavery? All Democrats. The two justices who dissented? Both Republicans.

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 3 місяці тому

      You generalize about the post-WWII Democrats. The Democrats were basically split into two factions running under the same name: The New Deal Democrats, and the segregationists. You forget that it was Harry S. Truman, a Democrat, who desegregated the military in 1948. It was Lyndon B. Johnson, another Democrat, who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 into law. The Republican Party did have its integrationists, in the 1960s, such as President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Senator Barry Goldwater, but this is much more indicative of bipartisan opposition to segregation than it is Republicans being inherently anti-racist.

  • @JR7noir
    @JR7noir 4 роки тому +92

    Abraham Lincoln>every southern

    • @JR7noir
      @JR7noir 4 роки тому +3

      @Awesome Sauce yeah, the Democrat Party has now the left inside.

    • @newfielass40
      @newfielass40 4 роки тому +10

      @Awesome Sauce Republican party was formed in 1854 as the anti-slavery party it has fought for the blacks every step of the way from abolition of slavery, to right to vote, to civil rights. Even MLK was a card carrying republican. Under trump precovid unemployment numbers were lowest across all ethnic groups.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +13

      @@newfielass40 What do you mean? Martin Luther King Jr vocally endorsed and worked pretty closely with Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat. He also said he voted for him in 1964.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +6

      @Awesome Sauce The Democratic Party in the US is now center-right. If it were 'far left' or even left wing, it would have far more support for universal health care and there wouldn't have been nearly as much opposition within it ( including from the Democratic nominee, Joe Biden ) to Bernie's policies. It's just generally too willing to compromise to the status quo.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +2

      @Awesome Sauce How could he have been a Republican if he supported the Democratic President? What's your source?

  • @MrGscp
    @MrGscp 4 роки тому +78

    democrats changed from right to left and republicans changed from Lincoln to Trump

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +7

      Yep.

    • @PixelGunZodiac
      @PixelGunZodiac 4 роки тому +14

      Dems are still sorta right wing

    • @ismailthaoutlaw
      @ismailthaoutlaw 4 роки тому +11

      @@PixelGunZodiac You're not totally wrong but they are closer to liberalism while todays gop is further right

    • @anakinskywalker9129
      @anakinskywalker9129 4 роки тому +4

      @@PixelGunZodiac in europe democrats wouldnt even exist cause of the normality of left leaning in other countries

    • @mike_404
      @mike_404 4 роки тому +1

      @@anakinskywalker9129 turkey?

  • @PikachuPromo
    @PikachuPromo Рік тому +52

    The Democratic Party never changed at all.

  • @Laughwithmelol
    @Laughwithmelol 8 років тому +42

    What about the fact Lyndon B. Johnson one said I will get those N -words voting for us for 300 years

  • @ericcardenas702
    @ericcardenas702 5 років тому +286

    I’m just here for the comments.

  • @nathanpratt3058
    @nathanpratt3058 5 років тому +50

    I dont support the Democratic party...
    Imma Republican

    • @Holly7500
      @Holly7500 5 років тому +18

      Ok, Nate.

    • @thetecno5800
      @thetecno5800 5 років тому +14

      Cool as a Democrat I respect your opinion

    • @nathanpratt3058
      @nathanpratt3058 5 років тому +5

      Very respectful 👌👌👍👍
      Thx fo understanding different opinions

    • @mateojames3231
      @mateojames3231 5 років тому +3

      TheTecno me too.

    • @masonburgess1599
      @masonburgess1599 5 років тому

      Stay that way and it will be appreciated by many

  • @Arkstromater
    @Arkstromater Рік тому +56

    As a white man with a black wife whom I love with all my heart….learning the history of my country gets me a little emotional

    • @HardRocker-zc8rr
      @HardRocker-zc8rr Рік тому

      Dont feel bad lot democrats owned slaves

    • @brendan9218
      @brendan9218 Рік тому +3

      It makes me realize how far we have come. We the people united are what we need it's not about race its about what race they are going to use next. Illegal immigrants democrats next catch.

  • @quinnreverance611
    @quinnreverance611 6 років тому +32

    Every Republican in a modern debate:
    “Well we freed the slaves”
    *DEMOCRAP REKT LMAO, AND THEIR LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT FOR THIS MODERN DEBATE IS NOW COMPLETELY INVALID*

    • @DoubleGoon
      @DoubleGoon 5 років тому +1

      Quinn Reverance WTF? lol Did you skip the last two minutes of the video and your American history classes in high school?

    • @Raveneye2000
      @Raveneye2000 5 років тому +15

      @@DoubleGoon Read it again man. He's making fun of the argument, not supporting it.

  • @BarbaraCerda
    @BarbaraCerda 8 років тому +28

    I think the scariest part about this content is the more things change the more they stay the same....we don't seem to learn. The distraction of demonizing the "other" still works when you want to engineer more or maintain unequal power

  • @belisarius1
    @belisarius1 8 років тому +13

    What they didn't note about Jackson's removal of the Five Civilized Tribes is that it was done AFTER the Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional. LOL

    • @JayDA820
      @JayDA820 8 років тому +2

      It doesn't make a difference if it was ruled unconstitutional or not he did it any way.

    • @JayDA820
      @JayDA820 8 років тому

      That's an a rather bug understatement. But yeah you're right

  • @nittygritty5251
    @nittygritty5251 3 роки тому +1

    Gordon Ramsay: You f*****g donkey
    Andrew Jackson: Yes chef, sorry chef *APPLIES DONKEY AS DEMOCRAT SYMBOL*

  • @anjelmarquez7784
    @anjelmarquez7784 6 років тому +44

    From kkk to make abortion great again. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ChortleMySqortle
      @ChortleMySqortle 5 років тому +7

      For me, I do believe that every child should have the chance to have a life, but it is not for me to decide for whoever is having that child. And statistically speaking abortions usually occur within the first trimester. Only in the case of the health of the mother or the child being in jeopardy are they performed after 23 weeks (Republicans would have you thinking differently). So I'm both pro-life and pro-choice. This comment makes it sounds like everybody out here getting abortions because they're fun.

    • @markganus1085
      @markganus1085 5 років тому

      do you want to see a lot of people suddenly jumping at the idea that abortion is great?just package this up as some affirmative action right

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-fc3qb
      @MonkeyDLuffy-fc3qb 5 років тому +1

      The democratic party was always the evil party.

  • @JosephJaneth
    @JosephJaneth 5 років тому +13

    "Democrats From slave rights to murder rates"
    #ProLife

  • @jaitomar5567
    @jaitomar5567 8 років тому +112

    it hasnt been 6 minutes and there are already dislikes. just shows how many people click on videos just to press dislike.

    • @vgames89
      @vgames89 7 років тому +24

      A note to the people saying things like "if Democrats knew their history they'd switch parties." No. I am very well aware of the history of the Democrats, yet I don't plan on switching parties. That's because what the Democrats did all those years ago is now irrelevant. Agendas change, and changes are usually more important. People in Germany are well aware of the atrocities committed by their country during WW2, yet I don't see them changing their citizenship. Focusing too much on the past doesn't help solve our current problems.

    • @daltoncampbell887
      @daltoncampbell887 6 років тому

      vgames89 if you knew about the present you would switch parties lol. Democrats are a mess rn

    • @PKMNFan4664
      @PKMNFan4664 4 роки тому

      @@daltoncampbell887 I'm not sure why you say that, any party that wants me to be married makes me happy...

  • @libramagyk
    @libramagyk 4 місяці тому +5

    It's a shame that you forgot to mention how FDR A DEMOCRAT put Italians Germans and Japanese in concentration camps right here in America..

  • @CIAagent12
    @CIAagent12 8 років тому +18

    now that was a perfect infographic-style video

  • @icantthinkofagoodname4715
    @icantthinkofagoodname4715 4 роки тому +28

    Some founding fathers said “ political parties will tear apart the country” look at us now , I might move to Canada when I’m an adult

    • @justnoah2073
      @justnoah2073 3 роки тому +3

      It would be better if one party didn't try to overthrow democratic elections with force.

    • @stormwolf8770
      @stormwolf8770 3 роки тому

      @@justnoah2073 the Democrat party is just the same as the Republican party. Can't wait for the third parties to rise up.

    • @justnoah2073
      @justnoah2073 3 роки тому +2

      @@stormwolf8770 That's a pretty incorrect statement.

    • @raegonthe5
      @raegonthe5 3 роки тому

      Lol its the same there

    • @justinnamuco9096
      @justinnamuco9096 3 роки тому

      Where there are even more political parties

  • @llamamall3653
    @llamamall3653 8 років тому +52

    The democratic party doesn't necessarily fight for greater economic equality. That may be what they say in their speeches, but looking into many of Obama's economic policies reveals a lack of fundamental difference from the Republicans.

    • @PKMNFan4664
      @PKMNFan4664 2 роки тому +4

      Income inequality still declined during the Obama administration, though.

    • @PKMNFan4664
      @PKMNFan4664 2 роки тому

      @Josh Traffanstedt And Joe Biden caused that how? I still fail to see how this was the case with Barack Obama or Bill Clinton.

    • @Hobodeluxe960
      @Hobodeluxe960 2 роки тому +2

      thing is he had to work with them to get anything at all passed. the myth that he had majorities in both houses (over 60 in senate remember because of the filibuster) is just that. sure on paper they had enough but Franken who won wasn't seated for almost a year because they tied it up in court and Ted Kenned in that time got sick and was dying. So they had all of about a week to get something passed and it was the Affordable Healthcare Act that had been watered down by the GOP and crippled by GOP governors after it came out because they wouldn't expand medicare.

    • @Grogu-485
      @Grogu-485 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂😂 wake up your still dreaming.

    • @lenculpepper9150
      @lenculpepper9150 Рік тому

      @@Hobodeluxe960 lol, at least you didn't blame Trump!

  • @cactusjack2264
    @cactusjack2264 4 місяці тому +4

    Then you have ignorant people always asking why black people always bring up race? This is why, racism is INGRAINED in our government and tbh currently still affects things today.

  • @blubberbutt8524
    @blubberbutt8524 6 років тому +8

    democrats: we're not racist
    also democrats: affirmative action

  • @UnknownHuman94
    @UnknownHuman94 Рік тому +28

    Now its become woke supremacy

  • @tientrinh943
    @tientrinh943 4 роки тому +43

    They are not far from going back to segregation

    • @damonledford3940
      @damonledford3940 4 роки тому +11

      Please explain

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +10

      @Ricardo Milos What do you mean? The Democratic Party has overwhelmingly the most support from minorities and it nominated the first African American US President.

    • @scientificfact4050
      @scientificfact4050 4 роки тому +7

      Well the new “Black national anthem” is a prime example because they are separating Americans by race when in actuality it’s a nationality so there is no need for racial specifics.

    • @scientificfact4050
      @scientificfact4050 4 роки тому

      The Keeper of the High Ground I get what your saying but I have no problems with the song itself I have a problem with it Being dubbed as a race specific national anthem

    • @wserthmar8908
      @wserthmar8908 4 роки тому

      Awesome

  • @Backpfeifengesicht45
    @Backpfeifengesicht45 Рік тому +27

    Republicans: The Democrats were the racists..
    Democrats: OK. Let us take OUR statues down then.
    Republicans: You can't do that. That's our heritage.

    • @tibodeclercq2131
      @tibodeclercq2131 Рік тому +1

      Yes, good one

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis 11 місяців тому +1

      Democrats: Okay to make up for our past racism let’s pretend that history didn’t happen by destroying things that remind people of it.
      Republicans: Life isn’t that simple. Hence why we think you should keep them as reminders of our troubled complicated past. Yes this will embolden some racist. But it’s not governments job to deal with social issues. That’s the job of the individual citizen.

    • @Hir655
      @Hir655 10 місяців тому +1

      The statues are history, if you deny the stories, you are condemned to repeat it, it is best to teach it so that it does not happen again, the Republicans are right, there is

    • @tibodeclercq2131
      @tibodeclercq2131 10 місяців тому

      @@Hir655 So we need statues of evil people so we know ourselves not to be evil? And , as you claim, statues are the only way to prevent worse?
      Bro, if you educate yourself which organization build these statues and the reason why, you will find out it is not to learn from history.

    • @Backpfeifengesicht45
      @Backpfeifengesicht45 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Hir655 ah yes. I remember in history class, when we used to just travel from place to place just silently staring at statues.
      Do you think the Germans have forgotten their history because they destroyed their WW2 era statues?
      As excuses go for you wanting to memorialise traitors and racists, yours isn't a great one. Got any better ones?

  • @jefflebowski918
    @jefflebowski918 5 років тому +26

    Sen Byrd(D-WV) was a life-long Democrat and was a grand wizard in the KKK during WWII.

    • @raney150
      @raney150 5 років тому +16

      Jeff Lebowski He came to regret being part of the KKK and spoke out against racism...

    • @danielblatzanich2714
      @danielblatzanich2714 5 років тому +3

      so what?
      American politics just ARE racist. You don't have to try hard to poke through history and find racism on either side.
      Guess what! Our government has been run by a bunch of wealthy white men! Shocking that racism would run deep deep deep
      But black people vote Democrat pretty reliably so I'll join them in it

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 5 років тому +8

      Byrd renounced white supremacy.
      Funny you forgot that.

    • @markganus1085
      @markganus1085 5 років тому +1

      @@danielblatzanich2714
      israel uses racism to keep both their borders and citizens safe with great success

    • @danielblatzanich2714
      @danielblatzanich2714 5 років тому

      @@markganus1085 Tell me more. What's your opinion of that fact?

  • @dominicdaiute4479
    @dominicdaiute4479 8 років тому +14

    Teddy Roosevelt was the first progressive president who was a republican when he won the presidency

  • @herropreaseherro7870
    @herropreaseherro7870 4 роки тому +8

    How you say? You thank the Republicans for industrializing the nation, allowing progress to advance our society. You thank the Republicans for standing against the expansion of slavery into western territories. You thank the Republicans for freeing the slaves. You thank the Republicans for backing the Civil Rights movement...

    • @bennettcarlson3974
      @bennettcarlson3974 4 роки тому +1

      All of that was in the cities which vote democrat today

    • @bademoxy
      @bademoxy 3 роки тому

      @@bennettcarlson3974 yes , we've been seeing the "mostly peaceful" rioting

    • @bennettcarlson3974
      @bennettcarlson3974 3 роки тому +2

      @@bademoxy doesn't change anything

    • @johnweber4577
      @johnweber4577 5 місяців тому

      @@bennettcarlson3974 Technically, as far as the 19th Century stuff is concerned, the Republicans performed the strongest in small-town Protestant America while the Democrats were already powerful in urban areas with high immigrant populations, predominantly Irish and German Catholics back then, with Lincoln himself losing New York City during both presidential runs. A major difference at the time was that the cities hadn’t grown to large enough to dwarf the rest of the states they were in. That all being said, I would agree that the original comment was ridiculously slanted.

  • @These-nutz
    @These-nutz Рік тому +49

    Didn’t Joe do a eulogy for a klan member?

    • @johnsusedik8363
      @johnsusedik8363 7 місяців тому +9

      Yes Robert BYRD Klan Grand Wizard

    • @michaelarmstrong6483
      @michaelarmstrong6483 6 місяців тому +6

      True, I wish we weren't so uninformed. ❤

    • @michaelarmstrong6483
      @michaelarmstrong6483 6 місяців тому

      Joe is a k .

    • @glossygloss472
      @glossygloss472 5 місяців тому

      He reformed his ways and changed during his life. The irony to call others “uninformed” 😂

  • @dcamron46
    @dcamron46 6 років тому +13

    'Democrats still support slavery but now its slavery of votes' is the dumbest idea. Oh no I hope my politician isn't doing things just so I vote for him! What would that be called? Democracy? Yeah, minorities are fine with Democrats pandering to them for once, it's called having representatives, ya know, the thing Southerners didn't give blacks -- the vote!!

    • @Kriscuit_Bonkin
      @Kriscuit_Bonkin 6 років тому +1

      Do you even hear yourself 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @sh__10
      @sh__10 6 років тому +1

      You have to be poor to benefit from Democrat policies and vote for the party. This is why the Democrats target ethnic minorities and immigrants. They see them as votes.

    • @Kriscuit_Bonkin
      @Kriscuit_Bonkin 6 років тому +1

      S Howe And you gotta be rich and White for republicans to give a crap about you.

    • @djjazzyjeff1232
      @djjazzyjeff1232 6 років тому +4

      They don't actually care about the people, they care about their vote. They're not people, they're numbers. The American Republican party has lifted more people out of poverty than any other in any country in the history of the world. You can hate Trump, which I know you didn't say, but I'm sure you do, it's pretty obvious, but did you know that under Trump, this "evil bigoted racist who only cares about money" has:
      Cut Taxes FOR EVERYONE
      Eliminated the inheritance tax
      Pulled out of the Iran deal, "which gave Iran a path to nuclear weapons over the next 10 years."
      Pulled out of the Paris Climate agreement, "which didn't accomplish anything other than waste Billions of US taxpayer dollars"
      Moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem
      Slashed Regulations giving the economy a chance to boom, which it has
      Lowest Unemployment Rate IN HISTORY
      Lowest Minority Unemployment Rate IN HISTORY
      Highest Stock Market increase at any given time IN HISTORY
      But you're right, the Republican party is evil and the Democratic Socialists are the way to Utopia. If you think that, tell me what happened in NYC, Chicago, and DC, the most socialist cities and also the most riddled with poverty and crime in the entire country, go ahead, I'll wait.

    • @sh__10
      @sh__10 6 років тому +4

      @@Kriscuit_Bonkin Think about it. If the Democratic party wanted minorities, let's say the African-American community, to move upwards through economic classes. Why wouldn't they support school voucher programs? Which would allow intelligent, driven African-American children to attend better school systems. Instead, they advocate throwing other people's money at the problem, in order to keep the unproductive schools and the democratic voter base full.
      They don't want you to succeed. If you succeed, you have nothing to gain from them because you are longer their slave.

  • @arturoregueira976
    @arturoregueira976 6 років тому +20

    Cubans didn’t help the Democratic Party.

  • @samlee5499
    @samlee5499 8 років тому +23

    As George Washington said political parties are ruining America we need to just stop this and make compromises like we did in the past since that's how America always worked instead of splitting need to stick together

    • @augustinedaudu9203
      @augustinedaudu9203 6 років тому

      It's a shame this isn't top comment

    • @ArceeStarFan
      @ArceeStarFan 6 років тому +1

      Sam Lee what even happen to the independent party I mean Bernie Sanders is an independent.

    • @lolipedofin
      @lolipedofin 6 років тому

      Political party was established de facto within the first year of the Washington's 1st term, colloquially termed as pro-administration party, later as Federalist, by Alexander Hamilton. 2 years after pro-administration, Jefferson created a coalition of anti-administration party, later named Democratic-Republican Party.
      So no, Political Party has always been the way America works. Most of the founding fathers are part or allied themselves to one of the party, even George Washington was highly sympathetic to Hamilton's Federalist Party, but chose to remain independent.
      What need fixing is the way your election works and how your legislative body function.

    • @LazyPirate8
      @LazyPirate8 6 років тому

      Vote libertarian

  • @lomax7871
    @lomax7871 2 роки тому +16

    Absolutely nothing has changed in democrats

  • @dylanlollar6045
    @dylanlollar6045 8 років тому +19

    Oh how the tables have turned...

  • @CurtDaniel1000
    @CurtDaniel1000 Місяць тому +13

    There was never a party switch

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT Місяць тому +7

      Explain how. I promise you, I won't laugh.

    • @darklight9450
      @darklight9450 Місяць тому +1

      No there was no party switching. Republicans from Today still prefer states rights . While Democrats today still prefer federal government regulation. The only thing that has changed is society in the USA and what society deems unjust . The only thing that happened through history was both parties adapted to problems of society and how to approach them and fix them.

    • @Iukereigns3460
      @Iukereigns3460 Місяць тому +1

      Then the clan, confederacy, segregation movement were all liberals right? (They weren’t)

  • @linzithelord
    @linzithelord 4 роки тому +33

    From the abolishing of slavery to "they will not replace us": The History of the Republican Party

    • @eliasziad7864
      @eliasziad7864 4 роки тому

      What do you mean?

    • @alexanderishere6205
      @alexanderishere6205 4 роки тому +8

      @@eliasziad7864 at the Charleston riot the white supremacy where saying that

    • @mentallyunstable5238
      @mentallyunstable5238 4 роки тому +1

      because democrats want the black vote. They give them false promises and say they support blm. they are trying to make the US mostly black/democratic so they win

    • @marisakirisame2366
      @marisakirisame2366 4 роки тому

      @@mentallyunstable5238 *all votes not just black

    • @bodlefamilyvids
      @bodlefamilyvids 4 роки тому +5

      Those racists were rejected by all mainstream Republicans. Too bad the mainstream Democrats refuse to reject racism and hate.

  • @CrazyandInsaneTv
    @CrazyandInsaneTv 10 місяців тому +13

    Democrat Party Will Always Remain a racist Party they just more smoother with it

  • @gwmcdonalds
    @gwmcdonalds 3 роки тому +20

    I just looked at the newest page, i regret having my soul taken away.

  • @hasoevo
    @hasoevo 8 років тому +40

    This is History from the world of reality. Why so many angry comments against the truth?

    • @warrenrhinerson6373
      @warrenrhinerson6373 7 років тому +3

      hasoevo there are actually a lot of things inaccurate in this video. Exactly white Southern’s going away from the democrats because of race issues

    • @rustyshackelford6834
      @rustyshackelford6834 6 років тому +4

      The Democrats are still the party of slavery, they just stopped being racist.

    • @rustyshackelford6834
      @rustyshackelford6834 6 років тому +1

      The Democrats hate the constitution because it won't let them enslave people.

    • @blank1507
      @blank1507 6 років тому

      American Patriot, American Patriot for God and Country, and Second amendment for usernames. Definitely reliable, objective perspectives coming from you😂

    • @stephenzeigler4110
      @stephenzeigler4110 6 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/hwqhoVIh65k/v-deo.html

  • @haxzaw8550
    @haxzaw8550 4 роки тому +16

    The party's never switched sides because they are constantly changing depending on who is in office
    Change my mind

    • @MaxSnowDude
      @MaxSnowDude 4 роки тому +2

      Well that’s just not true becuase the Dems have been center left since the 1920s

    • @okey2884
      @okey2884 4 роки тому +1

      Dems would always oppose Confederacy no matter what, so your somewhat wrong

    • @haxzaw8550
      @haxzaw8550 4 роки тому +1

      @@okey2884 The Republicans will too so really your argument doesn't contribute at all. I'm talking about the party itself not the people in it.
      You can't say that because a few awful people joined the party they changed the entire party. That's just illogical

    • @haxzaw8550
      @haxzaw8550 4 роки тому

      @@MaxSnowDude You can't be center and left at the same time. You are either center or you are left. In that case republicans are center and right, and really in this age in time it's hard to define either party as completely one thing or another.

    • @rockinrec22
      @rockinrec22 4 роки тому

      @@haxzaw8550 center left just means that you are left of center, but still close to it. It describes a position on the political spectrum, which is called a spectrum for a reason.

  • @carpenoctem775
    @carpenoctem775 4 місяці тому +3

    This video also skipped how Lyndon Johnson passed the civil rights act, and how Barry Goldwater opposed it because it expanded government power. That was a huge turning point in the changing of the tide of both parties.

  • @ada636
    @ada636 8 років тому +18

    Learning about this right now in AP US History! I love how that and this video coincide perfectly with the election. Thank you for helping our understanding.

  • @mikeymike2524
    @mikeymike2524 2 місяці тому +8

    Its make you think because these are the same people that wanna change the names of sports teams and tear down statues because of its ties to racism… yet their party’s name remains the same 😅

    • @user-mx6ut6tm1t
      @user-mx6ut6tm1t 2 місяці тому +1

      they're cleaning the evidence of their racism 🤣

    • @darklight9450
      @darklight9450 Місяць тому +1

      @@user-mx6ut6tm1t Let me ask this. Do you want to spend tax dollars to keep the statues of criminals maintain or not? Since we can read about them in a book to learn about them. There is lots of ways to learn about something then a statue that is cheaper.

  • @MeetThaNewDealer
    @MeetThaNewDealer 8 років тому +237

    Bernie Sanders could have brought the democratic party back to its progressive roots.

    • @anthonydepaz5181
      @anthonydepaz5181 8 років тому +7

      Lord Luke Lightbringer we don't need a socialist in office

    • @jamelmacon1130
      @jamelmacon1130 8 років тому +4

      Bernie sanders was an idiot with no actual plan for this country look at any interview were he is asked how is going to make his policies able to exist.

    • @josephtedros2089
      @josephtedros2089 8 років тому +3

      He has said how multiple times.

    • @josephtedros2089
      @josephtedros2089 8 років тому +6

      He's a social Democrat, judge policies, not names. We don't need crony capitalism. Social Democracy is a democracy with social benefits.

    • @jamelmacon1130
      @jamelmacon1130 8 років тому +2

      Joseph Tedros Before you make this arguement (and I know you will) the reason Hillary was favored by the DNC was because she has raised billions of dollars for the democratic party Bernie wasn't even voting on democratic laws in the senate also if you look at his voting record he was very anti gun laws. And I don't think we need socialism in this country look how it worked out for Greece.

  • @jamesmorgan7759
    @jamesmorgan7759 Рік тому +5

    Also a democrat john booth was the one that killed abe Lincoln it's all so fascinating.

  • @100Mmore
    @100Mmore 8 років тому +25

    Watch all of the Trump supporters say that Vox made a great, informative video with this but still go dislike the ones that point out Trump is a horrible politician.

    • @Riel_Rami
      @Riel_Rami 8 років тому +24

      Daniel Its the same for both Trump and Hillary supporters. They both do that.

  • @okey2884
    @okey2884 4 роки тому +77

    Go to the "newest first" comments, there getting mad at literal facts.

    • @demehandy
      @demehandy 4 роки тому +12

      Yea I see. Someone said obama is white....lol

    • @KiTheMC
      @KiTheMC 4 роки тому +7

      @@demehandy He's just as white as he is black.

    • @giggitygoo2181
      @giggitygoo2181 4 роки тому +2

      Kiz Epic Journey In America he's black

    • @Rikken552
      @Rikken552 4 роки тому

      @@KiTheMC hes ironically whiter than trump

    • @KiTheMC
      @KiTheMC 4 роки тому

      @@Rikken552 Without his makeup, he's as white as a snowball. If I painted my face black, I'm still white. And you know... racist.

  • @echelon8197
    @echelon8197 3 місяці тому +11

    "Today's Democratic Party is still a wolf, but a wolf that has learned to wear sheep's clothing..."

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT Місяць тому +1

      You missed the point of that. He didn't clear the republicans. They were the obvious enemy. They didn't hide their hatred. The dems do though.

    • @darklight9450
      @darklight9450 Місяць тому

      Is not weird that people from todays Democrats party are leaving the democrat platform to endorse Donald Trump. For example Rfk JR He was a democrat until 2024 when He endorsed Donald Trump.

    • @darklight9450
      @darklight9450 Місяць тому

      Only conveniently left the democrat when they realize He was going to lose the election of 2024 elections when he was running as an independent party.

  • @esimm595
    @esimm595 9 місяців тому +4

    The Democrat Party never changed from the idea that they were entitled to someone else’s work. Abraham Lincoln, the founder of the Republican Party, said a man should be able to eat the bread from the wheat he harvests. The Republican Party didn’t change either, and it’s why it doesn’t like big government or welfare.

    • @Greyareas27
      @Greyareas27 9 місяців тому +3

      How do you explain the fact that more than 60 years ago, a high percentage of white supremacists and other anti-black racists were Democrats but TODAY IN 2024 the OPPOSITE IS TRUE? Today the overwhelming majority of white supremacists and other anti-black racists are proud and loyal Republicans.
      Obviously change took place.

    • @LarryBonson
      @LarryBonson 8 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@Greyareas27I love how people like you bring up 60 years ago but ignore 60 years prior which was around the time of the Reconstruction era were a lot of Republicans moved down south to help rebuild it after Civil War and ended up staying their and lot of Democrats moved up north vice versa. The switch myth is hilarious.

  • @Shalalalala_666
    @Shalalalala_666 4 роки тому +32

    Am I literally the only Independent in America? Why can't we all just be Individuals and represent our own ideals?

    • @yesno-xd8bd
      @yesno-xd8bd 4 роки тому +3

      When you have a lot of people forming their own political parties, you'll see that the democratic system will be fractured and no legislation can be passed as it'll be hard to achieve a majority. Just look at the Weimar government in the 1920s. However that's not to say that having only 2 parties is good. It isn't.

    • @Shalalalala_666
      @Shalalalala_666 4 роки тому +4

      @Coconut Pal
      My ideals are also mostly pretty Democrat but there are still a few controversial things about the Democratic party that I simply can't agree with. And I don't want someone in DC to say they represent me when they really don't.

    • @Shalalalala_666
      @Shalalalala_666 4 роки тому +1

      @@yesno-xd8bd
      True.

    • @N9012-p6n
      @N9012-p6n 4 роки тому

      Declaration of Independence you should enjoy as an individual grants you that right. Unless you are for being governed by a large government. You as an American individual have the right to remain independent. And nobody will take that from you except people who want more government intervention and control in your life... then you will have that right stripped from you in that case.

    • @Shalalalala_666
      @Shalalalala_666 4 роки тому +1

      @@N9012-p6n
      How does large government take away my Ideological Individuality?

  • @Andrew-lc2wf
    @Andrew-lc2wf 8 років тому +15

    A side note: "Democratic" was supposed to be derogatory. The party was actually called the Democratic-Republicans. Opponents called them "Democrats" as an insult since Democracy was seen as mob rule, as opposed to Republic, which are defined by representative rule by law.
    Wow, has times changed. Now governments strive to be Democratic.

    • @eymed2023
      @eymed2023 2 роки тому

      If Vox's video's are to be believed, the Democratic party has always been consistent about one thing. They represent the will of the people.
      Democracy isn't inherently good or bad. It depends on the population.
      The people supported slavery in the past, and so the Democratic Party supported that.
      The people oppose slavery now and so Democratic Party represents that.
      It really is THAT simple.
      In a good society, the majority rule will be good. In a bad society, you should oppose the majority.

  • @dougbutcher4452
    @dougbutcher4452 4 роки тому +32

    They never changed their values, just their tactics.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому +7

      What do you mean? The Democratic Party in the US now has overwhelmingly the most support from minorities and nominated the first African American US President. Didn't you watch the video?

    • @dougbutcher4452
      @dougbutcher4452 4 роки тому +2

      @@FilthyTrot if you care so much about what videos say then watch one with an opposing view point.

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому

      @@dougbutcher4452 Well, then it wouldn't be telling the truth, would it?

    • @dougbutcher4452
      @dougbutcher4452 4 роки тому +1

      @@FilthyTrot you've made your mind up then. I hear ignorance is bliss..

    • @FilthyTrot
      @FilthyTrot 4 роки тому

      @@dougbutcher4452 I just explained how the party changed. You didn't give any response to the points I made.

  • @michaelmimnaugh79
    @michaelmimnaugh79 5 місяців тому +4

    How they switched the Democrat party never changed they just changed there tactics once a racist always a racist

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 3 місяці тому +1

      That's not how American politics work. American politics are, to put it nicely, a shitshow. There have now been four "party systems" involving the Republican Party and Democratic Party. Parties do not collapse with political landscape changes here like they do in Europe, they simply shift to accompany them.