Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, "Eroica" (SWR-Sinfonieorchester, Michael Gielen)

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  • Live in Freiburg und Baden-Baden with the SWR Symphony Orchestra conducted by Michael Gielen
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    SWR Symphony Orchestra
    Michael Gielen - conductor
    Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, "Eroica"
    0:45 I. Allegro con brio
    16:16 II. Marcia funebre. Adagio assai
    29:24 III. Scherzo. Allegro vivace
    35:08 IV. Finale. Allegro molto
    Produced by SWR

КОМЕНТАРІ • 40

  • @zacharybancroft747
    @zacharybancroft747 3 роки тому +60

    Who else is here from Music 101 with Dr Hinckley?

  • @jorgeurzuaurzua4011
    @jorgeurzuaurzua4011 4 роки тому +10

    Michael Gielen was an Austrian musician, composer and conductor recently deceased. Having to flee from Vienna due to jewish familiars, he lived in many places, including Argentina where he completed musical studies. He was respected as a conductor specializing in modern music, including first presentations of works including Ligéti, with emphasis in modern opera. His rendering of the Beethoven third is formally faultless, even though his approach is very distant from the classic German school of the XX century. His tempo may be considered too fast for the Eroica, a solemn and even funereal work. However, it is an interesting rendering, a high quality recording, worth listening to.

    • @hansdekorver7365
      @hansdekorver7365 4 роки тому +4

      Lively first movement , so very good ( the same tempo as Jordi Savall ). " Funereal " is only the second movement ?

    • @jorgeurzuaurzua4011
      @jorgeurzuaurzua4011 4 роки тому +2

      @@hansdekorver7365 Sir, you are right in both counts. The funereal march is just the second movement and the tempo of the first may be the same used by Jordi Savall. My point is that the Eroica is solemn all over ("To the memory of a Great Man"), and I tend to prefer the interpretations of classical German school masters such as Fürtwangler or more recent conductors such as Celibidache. The baroque and renaissance masters such as Savall or more modern such as Gielen tend to prefer a faster tempo. I believe that on the matter of opinions the field is always open. At any rate, as romans wisely said, "de gustibus non est disputandi".

    • @hansdekorver7365
      @hansdekorver7365 4 роки тому +2

      @@jorgeurzuaurzua4011 O.k. Maybe it is often what you are used to.
      But......is " disputandi " also correct ? ( versus " disputandum " )

    • @jorgeurzuaurzua4011
      @jorgeurzuaurzua4011 4 роки тому +2

      @@hansdekorver7365 Sir, you are correct, it is "disputandum". Moreover, I was in error attributing it to the romans, it was written by a modern French, Brillat-Savarin. Are you from the Nederlands by any chance?

    • @hansdekorver7365
      @hansdekorver7365 4 роки тому +2

      @@jorgeurzuaurzua4011 Dear sir , I must admit I am from Amsterdam ! ( but how did you know ? )

  • @andrewium
    @andrewium 4 роки тому +4

    Great performance! I love the faster tempo :-)

  • @chenliu3480
    @chenliu3480 4 роки тому +6

    Original tempo! Awesome!

  • @marcellodeangelis573
    @marcellodeangelis573 4 роки тому +4

    Strings sound very good. The woods are of fair competence. The brasses are in certain passages not very precise. The musical tempo is the right one (I have an "Eroica" by Abbado for the DG label which is so slow as to be soporific! "A" Bravo!" for the timpani player

    • @novagerio9244
      @novagerio9244 4 роки тому +1

      "The musical tempo"....now, you "metronomist", did you ever hear of reverb?

  • @tarakb7606
    @tarakb7606 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful performance!

  • @hyperion700
    @hyperion700 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, what an impetus

  • @josecordano2805
    @josecordano2805 4 роки тому +1

    La obra es muy buena pero lo prefiero escuchar con instrumentos antiguos porque escucho los violines un desastre mucha emoción o lo hacen vibrar no pasa nada

  • @emirmahmutoglu
    @emirmahmutoglu 23 години тому

    369.

  • @h.h.9289
    @h.h.9289 3 роки тому +1

    Merveilleux Michael Guilin . Lumineux,elegant,sans tapage. Écouter aussi ses symphonies de Malher. Sa famille avait fui le nazisme Parceque juifs pour se réfugier à Bueno Aires.On pense à tous les génies qui n’ont pas eu la même chance et que l’humanité a perdu..

    • @h.h.9289
      @h.h.9289 3 роки тому

      Pardon: Guilen et non Guilin...

    • @ATHill-uj7ip
      @ATHill-uj7ip 3 роки тому

      @@h.h.9289 Gielen

  • @ВладимирБелов-ф3ю
    @ВладимирБелов-ф3ю 4 роки тому +4

    Оркестр красочный, дирижёр превосходен, но слишком быстро, вложенные автором страсти сменяются быстрее, чем протекают эмоции. Учитесь у Клемперера, лучше у позднего. Он и показал огненного Бетховена.

  • @georgiaguardian4696
    @georgiaguardian4696 2 роки тому

    I have listened to many no. 3. This has got to be one of the best performed and also BEST RECORDED. Why only 17k views so far? Most people are missing out!

  • @stiofaingoff8860
    @stiofaingoff8860 3 роки тому

    Van? Or Von?

  • @novagerio9244
    @novagerio9244 4 роки тому +2

    A metronome - who thought that intellect came before emotion and Gestaltung.

  • @Stavroghin77
    @Stavroghin77 4 роки тому +2

    Too fast. Try Celibidache. Or Klemperer...

    • @michaelremish3123
      @michaelremish3123 4 роки тому +3

      Stavroghin77 have you studied the score?

    • @Stavroghin77
      @Stavroghin77 4 роки тому +2

      @@michaelremish3123 No sir, I can't say I did. And I'm sure this rendering is extremely correct and 'truthful' to the score, however, no shivers down to my spine... Just a 'layman''s opinion.