Garmin 1.2 Liter Autopilot Pump Hardware Fix for installation
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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WOW! All I can say is you were a lot nicer to that guy than I would have been. Great solution to a potential problem that anyone that operates a boat knows can potentially be a problem in the future. You would think they would have some folks that could see this potential issue.
Can you imagine, after you've had this installed for some time, a storm or rough water comes up unexpectedly and the boat is pounding waves. All of the sudden the pump breaks free because the threads of the mounting screws cut through the mount, stresses the hoses enough and one breaks, and now you've got hydraulic fluid all over the place and lost stearing in bad weather conditions! Great job in doing their job and solving a potentially very bad situation that could have been avoided. Hopefully they see this video and read the comments and re-think their solution and design.
Very true common sense if this happens in a storm at sea everything would be lost, life and vessel, and all it took was just a small inserts.
Thanks for painting that picture cap. I was leaving the moment as i was reading your comment, and i hope they think about this small problems that could be a tragedy.
Thanks for your comment cap.⚓️👍
I am learning many things from your inspiring channel! FYI, I have a sailboat and am looking for a used autopilot. I don't need the hydraulic pump as my sailboat is tiller steered, But, if you will sell me your unneeded Raymarine EV100 parts, they sell a tiller device that works with your parts. Again, thanks a million for your resourcefulness and the sharing of your incredible adventure, Bill
Garmin should pay you for your creative fix to their obvious engineering flaw. Their explanation that the fittings are no longer needed is a cop out. You made their product better with the fittings and washer you adapted. It will give you a much stronger installation. Eres un bárbaro!
I agree with you Eduardo Thanks so much for your positive comment.
Jajajaja gracias estoy tratando😁😉👍
You're bad ass Cap! We've all been through stuff like this but the way you handle it and document it is perfectionism at it's best! The multimillion dollar company was useless but you overcame. Keep it up.
Thanks cap. 👍 we just have to overcome obstacles sometimes thanks for being a viewer of my channel soon the installation will be uploaded, thanks for watching 👍
I feel you. Ive been fitting the lowrance pump to my mercury verado 300hp that has power steering and I got sent wrong verado hose kits. Its really been a strugle but fortunately the import company came through and Im waiting for the right parts.
frustrating cap , i hope you get all your parts and go back to the water to enjoy your boat cap.👍😉⚓
Capt, Good fix on your part. If I had watched your video until the end it wouldn't have been necessary for me to comment on the part numbers because you already solved the problem.
Thanks Tom for being a awesome viewer of my channel 😉
Way to go Capt.👍🏼 Not taking the standard answer and making it better then the original 👌🏼 Glad to see you had a helpful rep from Garmin. Great job on doing it the proper way 🤙🏻🤙🏻 Be safe, be well🎣 Great to see beautiful Foxy🦊 helping out....
Thank you Allen and yes foxy was doing a great job smelling the package package thank you for watching the video captain
too funny i did not watch the entire video yet I decided to finish it today and you came up with the solution
That is great do you watch the whole thing John and yes the solution is very simple and easy to make and it will last a long time but better than just leaving it without it Thanks for watching captain
Good video and result from re-engineering. Always have to re-engineer as he mentioned no boat/install is the same, but feet holding a product should have good feet.
I suppose to be simple here, you could just use the larger fender washer and forego the insert and it would be fine as once mounted on the rubber snugged down, it should not move around. I would also consider using a rubber pad under the feet like maybe an EPDM floor exercise mat rubber with some longer screws to really give it a cushion to mount and keep vibration down as well .I use that same rubber for my batteries and it holds them great and reduces the vibration and impacts.
Good work!
Thanks God and thank you for the awesome suggestion really appreciated👍
Nice cap how you fixed that right up better than the manufacturer
Lol thank you captain Just how to make something to make it work😁👍
wow..u have lots of tools in garage for any purpose capt..always like your DIY moment.all tools are proper placement and clean .nice capt..have a coffee capt
Thank you captain yes I try to do a lot of trades so I have a lot of tools and yes I had 2 cups of coffee thanks for your comment and for watching captain greetings from USA
@@OutOnTheReef And i saw your Dog walk and said im on camera please..Lol..greeting 9:49 Indonesia
@@agaramelan7319 lol she wanted a moment of fame 🤣
Good job Cap! Sometimes you just have to think outside the box.
Very true sometimes we have to think really hard and come up with something up with something to make it work lol
You should charge Garmin for your time solving there issues with this captain. Great job as always sire. You should advertise a kit for that pump and make some extra money on the side lol… Did you ask why the pumps where covered in hydraulic fluid? Can’t wait to see the rest of the build and the sea trial as well.
Safe Navigating captain
Thank you Will and no I did not ask why the pumps were all in hydraulic fluid but I'm pretty sure they will comment in this video And it was funny because I thought also about making a kid But it's so easy for people to do it just get the proper equipment I just happen to have it And thanks for watching captain
I just ordered this pump and I got the same plastic inserts!
In your case captain do the same thing I did and you will not have a problem I already had the pump for over a year and have no problems making those little copper inserts
@@OutOnTheReef you video will be great when I install the system. Your videos are great! Thanks for making them!
@benduea2713 That is awesome to hear captain thanks so much for the positive feedback and hopefully those videos can help you Install yours. Navigate safe cap 👍🛥⚓️
And if you have any questions that I can help along the way just let me know here cap.
I use small flange bearings from an industrial supply company like McMaster Carr when installing the pumps.
That is a awesome idea cap. Thanks for sharing it
Do you have a size/part number?
@@tombiondi9969 The parts that I have used came from an existing stock. But after viewing the install here I like the large washer on top of the spacer. So I think I have a better way, that I used on my last install and it cost less as well. Look up Binding barrels in MMC. The one I bought was 93122a164. You can install this with the threaded end up and use any length screw to match the thickness of you mounting surface if you can get to the back side. If you are going into a blind area then I would use a spacer such as 92320a361.
Personally I do not like going into a blind area with self threading screws on marine applications due the vibration and shear pounding they receive. I tried to make a video showing the install on my boat but after watching it, I just could not post it, bad is not even close, it was painful to watch.
@@jbboating3268 excellent, thanks!
Garmin is selling a product that has to be altered for installation.I wonder if that is stated in their installation instructions? Good job holding their feet to the fire and making them acknowledge a design flaw and engineer an improved design.
thanks cap and it took some time for me to do that i was working on this almost 2 weeks🤣
I thought those inserts go in the horizontal holes right below the pump on the rubber. They stiffen the dampening. They fit perfectly in those side holes.
Garmin told me it was a engineers mistake wen they place it in the hardware bag
@@OutOnTheReef Strange. Anyhow, did you ever have the older version of the autopilot with the compass ball? I am wondering if it it is worth "upgrading" to the reactor 40 sensor box. Thanks.
@@bobli9267 the new reactor is better to my knowledge cap. I love mine
Good job as always and thank you for all you do to help us.
One observation..
Didn't think is good having. Cooper and S.S touching each other
Thanks cap and if saltwater is in contact maybe but inside the pilothouse there is no contact with saltwater so that will not be a problem.
Thanks for watching cap 👍🛥⚓️
I just installed a 1.2 pump and didn’t give this a thought. I just threaded right through the rubber and called it a day. Thanks for posting this. I don’t know if there was a video before this, did the mount fail? You installed this a while ago right?
No but I was concerned with pounding off the waves that the screw was gonna eat through the rubber captain
Perfect fix for the problem. You need to send this video to Garmin's Corp. office. Thanks Captain for sharing the way it should be done.
Thanks Dale will see ot soon, thanks for watching 👍
This is a great example of real world applications in the field with a real user...you! Excellent job, Captain! Thank you for taking the time to show this important modification and working with Garmin to improve their products. Looking forward to the next vid!
Alan
Thanks captain it took days but it was worth to get the results thank you for watching
Can’t wait for the install. Thanks for the video.
Thanks captain and the next videos will come up soon the installation I hope you like them And thanks for watching
As always great video sharing for the real user it will shorting out many boaters nice captain.stay safe
Anytime captain thank you for watching and supporting my channel that motivates me on keeping filming👍⚓
Did they send you a kit to clean the Hydraulic Fluid up? What a bunch of numbties! Nice video!
thanks John for watching and no they did not lol is all good cap.😉👍
Great work Captain!!! Love the engineering.
Thanks buddy sometimes we need to think really hard lol
Had the same issue. just went to the parts bin and found a couple of brass inserts for tube connecter that would fit. By the way when you do the calibration of the unit what number did you get for the compass calibration? And if you come to Titusville come fish with me. Capt Jay
Well what I did was when I went to do the sea trial the compass calibrated itself you don't need to do nothing to it once you do your sea trial everything will come to place captain that's that's what I was told and what really happened on my sea trial Aint I hope this helps
5 estrellas al servicio al cliente de la Garmin 👍👍✌✌
De acuerdo capitan 👍👍👍
So glad your calling Garmin out on a public platform. Maybe they will improve their quality control.
Well I had a good experience especially compared to raymarine there are a lot better
Thanks for the info Capt. Seemed like they were giving you the run around in the beginning. These companies should pass along product changes to the people who answer the phones.
I guess this was something new they have never heard I'm the only one that brought it up to their attention
Saludos
Are you going to do a video on the full install? I’m thinking of going to a new Garmin autopilot in another year or so to replace the older simrad one that’s on the boat
Yes captain coming up I have 2 videos showing you step-by-step what to do and hopefully this would give you some pointers For your installation to make it easier thanks for watching captain
Nice video and great information Captain!
Thanks captain I really appreciate you watching
I'll have to mount mine vertically because of limited space behind the helm. Garmin says it's fine but those rubber feet look kind of flimsy and the entire pump is going to be hanging in the air off of them. Is the pump very heavy? You think it'll hold up?
I will not mount it that way I will do additional support if you're going to install it vertically. Because like you. I don't agree with the weight ratio. And the rubber mounts.
Great job ! Thank you for sharing 🙏🙏🙏
You got a captain thank you for watching
They are oiled up because they are all returns. They probably took bad pumps back and put new rubber mounts on and shipped em back out.
They assure me that they were new I hope they are ,They cannot be refurished
send this video to them to see for themselves. seems like they want to offload the old stock before the new ones go out. will this void warranty for not using what they sent?
No they assured me that the warranty would not be void it And hopefully the mount will not rip apart because if it does it should be under warranty
saludos capitan fossi siempre cuidando la casa jajajajajaj
Si ella estava oliendo aver si avia explossivos jajaja😁
I just made stainless steel bushings.
That is an awesome idea because it will not rust with the salt environment👍⚓️
@@OutOnTheReef stainlees steel machine bolts have a finer thread than self tapping screws. . So they dont abraid
@@sysublime5091 awesome cap.👍
@@sysublime5091 hope your installation goes well
@@OutOnTheReef i installed the Garmin Reactor 40 Ghc 20 smart pump in my boat 2 years ago.
...A GOOD WAY TOO PASS THE BUCK,.GOOD LUCK ON YOUR REPAIR..
Thanks Bob I'm pretty sure this will work👍🛥
Use a 3d printer, make something that the 4 feet of the pump fit in to... Or route 4 notches into a plywood.
Thanks for the awesome suggestion captain I will keep that in mind
Capt, if you go to the page with the "technical features" and scroll down to the bottom of the page it states that part # 010-11098-00 has been replaced by 010-00705-64 and at least according to the photo that pump doesn't have the brass inserts/bushings.
Thanks Tom I did not say that appreciate you telling me👍
That’s why I bought raymarine babe
I had better experience with Garmin cap
By the looks of your tools there captain, you may have been in Refrigeration by trade? I am as well. Looking forward to your video of the complete install of this. I am going to attempt this when I pull the trigger on purchasing this same package.
Yes I am John and I'm glad you're also a refrigeration mechanic There are few people like us out there lol and yes hopefully you'll get your other pilot I will show you how I installed mine so maybe I'll help you a little and check out this video what I did to my Van with athe window air conditioning, A lot of people in the air conditioner business said that this could not be done but we're smarter than that lol ua-cam.com/video/AXgHIrFqm9o/v-deo.html
@@OutOnTheReef I knew by watching you install the radar, installing the window unit on your boat and working on your engine, I knew you weren’t just a boater and you had tool experience. I always said us techs need to know everyone’s trade and be able to do it all. Much respect for you Captain!
@@Glory-Days-Fishing That is a 100% right captain much respect to you captain🤗👍
Bro I think you need a 3d printer for some of your work
That will be awesome to have one in the future captain they are expensive though
Captain, this is so typical today. Manufacturers just don't give a crap anymore. This was not an accident that their engineers need to look into. That was what I call lip service. They don't give a crap if you break down in the bahamas. They have a whole crap load of bad, already used pumps that they need to dump on guys like you and me. Don't feel bad; simrad and seastar solutions optimus are just as bad. I went through the same thing you are going through with seastar solutions optimus for 2 and a half years. Imagine that.
Yes you're right Randy and I went for 3 years with raymarine problems I know what you're talking about
Buen video capitán. Estoy pensando seriamente en colocar uno en mi bote. Muy cómodo para facilitar la navegación brindando un recorrido y trayecto más directo y con ello ahora de tiempo, gasolina entre otras facilidades.
Salu2 en el mar nos vemos!
Si muy cierrto Alamar especialmente la gasolina porque el auto pilot es mas presiso.
Despues pondre los videos de la installasion, saludos cap.
👍🏼
Great video Captain. Maybe just me, but I don't find their explanation and go forward plan acceptable. For that amount of cost, you shouldn't have to re-engineer their product for the marine environment.
I know how you feel captain And I understand We should get the hardware with no problems from the factory but if we don't we have to engineer something
@@OutOnTheReef Not to mention the time you patiently waited for their response 3X. Can I be second in line for your RM autopilot system? 🙂
@@CW-qt1qv lol captain we will make you a appointment 😉😁👍
The 1.2 liter pump did never work (works only in dometics mind). he upgraded to a 2.1.
Yes cap the 1.2 is a awesome upgrade
You have worlds more patience then I do Captain. How frustrating for Garmin to keep repeating the same mistake. For you to have to make your own modification reflects poorly on the Garmin brand.
Very true captain but it was the easy modification I'm glad I had the tools at home to do. But the bad thing is that hold me up a week and a 1/2 of my installation
Looks like Garmin is off loading all their old stock into one specific market. Like most companies in current times supply chain issues are an issue but the consumer should get what you pay for. Come on Garmin sort this issue out or your warranty bill will be massive.
Especially if people don't install it right the mount is gonna come off but come off but I think what I did with my installation I think I should hold on just fine.
I will keep you updated if something happens with the mount captain thank you for watching
As a Garmin consumer I must say I'm disappointed with the customer service as well as the fact there doesn't seem to be any pride in workmanship by sending out a product that is soaked in fluid and very different from what is shown.
I understand the way you feel captain But at least now we know how to fix the problem a little bit
Captain I would like you to visit another You Tube channel I enjoy, Life by the Bow. Clay and Stephanie live in a beautiful house in Key Largo. Their most recent video is an overnight trip to Dry Tortugas. You will enjoy this video and tempt you to go.
Thank you Lee fpor letting me know I do watch the channel sometimes And definitely I will check out that video to get some ideas lol thank you captain
Good job. Too bad you had to do a bush fix. Their explanation on your last call is hideous.
Yes I understand they should have some top don't talk of connector that will not damage the rubber for some consumers that they do not know how to do this
You would think the company charging that much for their product you would get better results. Pretty shitty to me.
The problem is that nobody ever complained for this problem So that's why they never fixed it
I’ve never liked garmin for just this reason. Their connection points are small and weak for everything, power cords, transducer cables, radar… check out Furuno and you’ll see how it’s done.
Thanks John and I had Bad experience with raymarine Garming is a walk on the park👍
Hey I hate to say this " it's a Dam sham "......
I know how you feel James but sometimes you're gonna have to do things out of the ordinary to make it defeat properly in our boat😉👍⚓
@@OutOnTheReef so true
parece que el que probo la bomba no la limpio y la dejo llena de aceite 🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄
capitan esta usando las valvulares de servicio eso cuesta money
Cierto eso es lo que parece
@@DeepBlueChannelCom si esas valvulas son de rifrigeracion me ba a matar mi jefe😁
I'm gonna be escalating this
Lol yes I will escalate it too very high lol
wow this so not good Garmin are normally good :(
Well they did awesome customer service better than raymarine👍👍
What a bunch of amateurs at Garmin. I better check how my pump is installed, cause i didnt do it myself.
Yes captain it's better to take a look at it to see if it's done right very easy fixed though hopefully who installed Did a good job
He said he like your ingenuity On the copper sleeves I would've asked him for a engineering job with Garmin
Lol cap. I will apply soon😉😁
That has to be the most frustrating thing ever!!!!!!
Lol captain I've been in worse especially with raymarine for 3 years😬