I have just today read that women and girls don't have their pain taken seriously by the medical profession. No wonder a few months ago I read that the medical profession is full of misogny. Frightening to say the least if you are a woman or girl. Also criminal.
Also is a huge gap betveen genders in nutrition "woman need less food, less meat then man" that's mean woman, not only have to eat less, but also less nutriciuos food
I did not know women experience different heart attack symptoms. Socioeconomic status makes healthcare of everyone not just women worse. However it is intersectional. Due to systematic sexism in healthcare. Geographic location is the same both genders are effected but yes usually if ya worse for men it’s ten times worse for women. Race, in western medicine I saw a recent documentary about a black doctor who collected medical photos of skin conditions with darker skin tones. Because all the existing medical photos where of white skin only!!! I
Finally, the wage gap... All people a bit familiar with reasearch papers know that once conflating factors are accounted for, only 2-4% of the 22% remains.
Yes, but that poses the important question why that is. Which leads us to expectations about caring responsibilities of young and old people (much more women do that). To the view of women in the workplace, but also society in general. Of course one could just say that's definitely all personal choice and no societal pressure could be at play, and be done, but that doesn't sound satisfactory does it?
@@magsdechert4647 Well yes, though answering with "this gap in choice is because of sexism" without proof as it's usually done is a form of phalacy of the gaps. If the reason for the difference in choices between men and women turned out to be genetic, the same people saying it's due to sexism would say that past oppression had an impact on the epigenetics of the current women (for example), and the cycle of spending fortunes to disprove sexism would restart. There is a wide literature on the impact of testosterone on behavior, some even focused on addressing the differences of behavior causing the wage gap, and current results show that at least part of this gap is explained by the impact of testosterone on behavior (for example, if I remember well, there's a paper on the impact of testosterone on bargaining behaviors, one on risk taking, etc). Also, it's important to note that the fact that the gap is due to choice makes it the result of some volontary trade-off, you have to look at what is gained by this different approach before even safely saying it's an issue, for example, one of the explanatory factors is that men have a higher likelihood of taking a job they dislike if it pays well, so it could be men which make unhealthy and suboptimal choices here. There's good book by Warren Farrell on the subject called "Why men earn more and what can women do about it".
@@allisterblue5523 I wouldn't be suprised if testosterone played a role, I'd be interested in your findings on that. I'd expect to see a certain inter-group difference in men with different testosterone level in them. Behaviour of men and women is very hard if not impossible to untangle with the role expectation of women vs. men (this is of course not new to you I'd assume). Men would hypothetically not be "breaking" an implicit assumption of e.g. being obedient in your work, if they are expected to go out and get 'em. The aspect of men waging money vs. different life qualities would be interesting to look into also, if you know of something on the spot. 20% less is quite a benchmark to overcome with respect to what you "gain" doing a more fitting job. I don't suspect many women in some field would be sad about a promotion, yet they experience that they just don't get promoted as often, so that type of work they choose is not more fitting, just lower level. Considering these points I doubt a solution of the wage gap would be detrimental to the happiness of most women. FWIW from my experience I couldn't say that women do nicer jobs than men at all. Also I'm pondering that how much you earn does surely influence feeling valued and essential in your job, so these could be this feedback happiness/sadness. Last I want to say I think your differenciation of describing the gap vs. "solving" the gap as two completely different conversations is very important.
@@magsdechert4647 I think I need to go a bit more into details, my comment on job satisfaction is about the choice of carrier, women are considerably more likely to choose a field they like over one they dislike but pays better while this is not the case for men, it isn't related to promotion. Also, it's far from explaining the gap on it's own: A lot of the difference is explained by the fact men work more extra hours in average, a difference in initial salary due to women being less likely to bargain (though they do well when they do), women being less likely to accept a promotion involving moving, etc. Finally, I would defend that, if a woman has a tendency to not ask for promotions, work less hours, refuse certain kinds of promotions,etc, it's normal, even fair, if she doesn't get promoted.
I'm not sure how much I believe this, I have two friends who've had appendectomies the first was a 14 year old girl who had the neatest and tiniest little incision scar and the other was a 22 year old guy who looks like he has a zipper on his stomach, make of that what you will
@@vividius7951 I've had the procedure done on me with the zipper mark left on my stomach. I know of men with the similar zipper mask left after the same procedure. All females I know who had the procedure done had only a neat tiny incision mark left. So like what you said make of that what you will.
Also, all points about necessary differencies in treatment actually concern sex, not gender, this kind of confusion is one of the reasons why woman, which means adult human female in medicine, should probably not be used to speak of gender.
Before 1993, all studies were focused solely on men. Now they include men and women. Of course, I assume there is research with only male participants when it comes to male health specifically, and vice versa with women.
Because men aren't treated as they are “overreacting” while women are. Did you not watch the video? Or do you just hate women that much, that you can't accept the fact that women are mistreated in the medical field. For eg. When women get IUD inserted (which is birth control) they are told to take an ibuprofen before the app, many women have reported the pain is so intense its worse than childbirth (or the worst pain they have ever felt) women are told they are “overreacting”, and are, “dramatic”. While men get anesthesia for ever procedure that might be slightly painful. Men aren't mistreated in society, because guess what? This society was made by men FOR men.
@@shalissa6134 you sound like a Misandarist. Did you know the word _'menopause'_ was coined in 1821. By the 1970's Hormone Replacement Therapies had been devised. Women are regularly screaned for breast and cervix cancer, no such screaning for prostate cancer. Yet more men die from prostate cancer than women die from breast cancer. Men's life expectancy is much less, and they are more likely to commit suicide. If there is a gap, I think it's in favour of women. 👍🏼
@@shalissa6134 "This society was made by men FOR men." - ~97% work deaths are men. - 70-80% homeless people are men. - ~80% of suicides are men. - combat deaths in wars 99.9% are men. - the majority of college degrees hold women nowadays since the education system is more female oriented and hostile to males. Must be nice to be a man in a society build by men for men.
Almost all studies were only done on men and even now there isn't a 50/50 split in participants. Like everything we know about heart attacks are specific to men because only men were involved in the studies. Almost all medication dosages are based on men's biology because guess what male only studies. Lack of pain management for woman because guess what no women involved in the studies for pain management. So stop trying to play victim in healthcare because you ain't it.
I have just today read that women and girls don't have their pain taken seriously by the medical profession. No wonder a few months ago I read that the medical profession is full of misogny. Frightening to say the least if you are a woman or girl. Also criminal.
Fechando a lacuna: abordando as desigualdades de gênero na saúde
Also is a huge gap betveen genders in nutrition "woman need less food, less meat then man" that's mean woman, not only have to eat less, but also less nutriciuos food
I did not know women experience different heart attack symptoms.
Socioeconomic status makes healthcare of everyone not just women worse. However it is intersectional. Due to systematic sexism in healthcare. Geographic location is the same both genders are effected but yes usually if ya worse for men it’s ten times worse for women.
Race, in western medicine I saw a recent documentary about a black doctor who collected medical photos of skin conditions with darker skin tones. Because all the existing medical photos where of white skin only!!! I
Thank you for sharing this.
Finally, the wage gap... All people a bit familiar with reasearch papers know that once conflating factors are accounted for, only 2-4% of the 22% remains.
Yes, but that poses the important question why that is. Which leads us to expectations about caring responsibilities of young and old people (much more women do that). To the view of women in the workplace, but also society in general. Of course one could just say that's definitely all personal choice and no societal pressure could be at play, and be done, but that doesn't sound satisfactory does it?
@@magsdechert4647 Well yes, though answering with "this gap in choice is because of sexism" without proof as it's usually done is a form of phalacy of the gaps. If the reason for the difference in choices between men and women turned out to be genetic, the same people saying it's due to sexism would say that past oppression had an impact on the epigenetics of the current women (for example), and the cycle of spending fortunes to disprove sexism would restart.
There is a wide literature on the impact of testosterone on behavior, some even focused on addressing the differences of behavior causing the wage gap, and current results show that at least part of this gap is explained by the impact of testosterone on behavior (for example, if I remember well, there's a paper on the impact of testosterone on bargaining behaviors, one on risk taking, etc).
Also, it's important to note that the fact that the gap is due to choice makes it the result of some volontary trade-off, you have to look at what is gained by this different approach before even safely saying it's an issue, for example, one of the explanatory factors is that men have a higher likelihood of taking a job they dislike if it pays well, so it could be men which make unhealthy and suboptimal choices here. There's good book by Warren Farrell on the subject called "Why men earn more and what can women do about it".
@@allisterblue5523 I wouldn't be suprised if testosterone played a role, I'd be interested in your findings on that. I'd expect to see a certain inter-group difference in men with different testosterone level in them. Behaviour of men and women is very hard if not impossible to untangle with the role expectation of women vs. men (this is of course not new to you I'd assume). Men would hypothetically not be "breaking" an implicit assumption of e.g. being obedient in your work, if they are expected to go out and get 'em.
The aspect of men waging money vs. different life qualities would be interesting to look into also, if you know of something on the spot. 20% less is quite a benchmark to overcome with respect to what you "gain" doing a more fitting job. I don't suspect many women in some field would be sad about a promotion, yet they experience that they just don't get promoted as often, so that type of work they choose is not more fitting, just lower level. Considering these points I doubt a solution of the wage gap would be detrimental to the happiness of most women. FWIW from my experience I couldn't say that women do nicer jobs than men at all. Also I'm pondering that how much you earn does surely influence feeling valued and essential in your job, so these could be this feedback happiness/sadness.
Last I want to say I think your differenciation of describing the gap vs. "solving" the gap as two completely different conversations is very important.
@@magsdechert4647 I think I need to go a bit more into details, my comment on job satisfaction is about the choice of carrier, women are considerably more likely to choose a field they like over one they dislike but pays better while this is not the case for men, it isn't related to promotion.
Also, it's far from explaining the gap on it's own: A lot of the difference is explained by the fact men work more extra hours in average, a difference in initial salary due to women being less likely to bargain (though they do well when they do), women being less likely to accept a promotion involving moving, etc.
Finally, I would defend that, if a woman has a tendency to not ask for promotions, work less hours, refuse certain kinds of promotions,etc, it's normal, even fair, if she doesn't get promoted.
Health research should focus more on women.
@@jacqueandrew1033 did you watch the video
it does, breast cancer research gets like 5 times the funding as prostate cancer
I'm not sure how much I believe this, I have two friends who've had appendectomies the first was a 14 year old girl who had the neatest and tiniest little incision scar and the other was a 22 year old guy who looks like he has a zipper on his stomach, make of that what you will
I can relate to this personally. New BS different day.
@@na7ur3 why what happened?
@@vividius7951 I've had the procedure done on me with the zipper mark left on my stomach. I know of men with the similar zipper mask left after the same procedure. All females I know who had the procedure done had only a neat tiny incision mark left. So like what you said make of that what you will.
@@na7ur3 I know right, its not like a one off its everyone
OK, fine. But what about the epidemic of itchy scalp portrayed in this video?!
Also, all points about necessary differencies in treatment actually concern sex, not gender, this kind of confusion is one of the reasons why woman, which means adult human female in medicine, should probably not be used to speak of gender.
*Medicine
Sure, but we can say men can’t we 🤨 only the word woman or women is offensive am I right? 🙄
Another gap that's the figment of ideologues imaginations.
Nope. There are so many examples. Take IUD's or ADHD for example.
It's amazing how men can disregard so many scientific publications in the name of "feminism is bad"
You need to look into the studies on it instead of jumping to conclusions.
Man "sick less" becouse they don't seek for help just suffer, thats why so little data about man heath.
When are we going to see a male gender health study, or don't males count for much these days?
Before 1993, all studies were focused solely on men. Now they include men and women. Of course, I assume there is research with only male participants when it comes to male health specifically, and vice versa with women.
Because men aren't treated as they are “overreacting” while women are. Did you not watch the video? Or do you just hate women that much, that you can't accept the fact that women are mistreated in the medical field. For eg. When women get IUD inserted (which is birth control) they are told to take an ibuprofen before the app, many women have reported the pain is so intense its worse than childbirth (or the worst pain they have ever felt) women are told they are “overreacting”, and are, “dramatic”. While men get anesthesia for ever procedure that might be slightly painful. Men aren't mistreated in society, because guess what? This society was made by men FOR men.
@@shalissa6134 you sound like a Misandarist.
Did you know the word _'menopause'_ was coined in 1821. By the 1970's Hormone Replacement Therapies had been devised.
Women are regularly screaned for breast and cervix cancer, no such screaning for prostate cancer. Yet more men die from prostate cancer than women die from breast cancer.
Men's life expectancy is much less, and they are more likely to commit suicide.
If there is a gap, I think it's in favour of women. 👍🏼
@@shalissa6134 "This society was made by men FOR men."
- ~97% work deaths are men.
- 70-80% homeless people are men.
- ~80% of suicides are men.
- combat deaths in wars 99.9% are men.
- the majority of college degrees hold women nowadays since the education system is more female oriented and hostile to males.
Must be nice to be a man in a society build by men for men.
Almost all studies were only done on men and even now there isn't a 50/50 split in participants.
Like everything we know about heart attacks are specific to men because only men were involved in the studies.
Almost all medication dosages are based on men's biology because guess what male only studies.
Lack of pain management for woman because guess what no women involved in the studies for pain management.
So stop trying to play victim in healthcare because you ain't it.
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