@@samgayle9629 they did not wanna lose draft capital for overrated receivers let’s be real this is the perfect time to get better position in acquiring recievers
Tomlin has his fingers on the offense and defense, what's the point having offensive and defensive coordinators? Tomlin is a genius running EVERYTHING,! (A successful failure)
Tomlin teams have never started games well thru his career, even with the Killer Bs. Its getting redicolous. To have this team in position to win the Division then they have a complete meltdown. Oline is garbage and there Wr are not good except for pockens , but pickens doesnt get the ball enough.
In my opinion, this is why pride is becoming MT’s fall… He’s really delusional, he loves “watching tape” yeah but this imploding at the end of every season is ridiculous…. there’s more blame to go around i’m done for now
@@Yeenz55it’s more than Wilson bud, you think this team is a QB away from being elite ? They are bad in almost every aspect of the game. 4 season out of 18 with playoff victories, it’s time for a change.
Rudolph ...6'5" no fear in the pocket and great passer .Tomlin is clueless .Yes Wilson is a good guy .he's got limitations though @@JackSlatersPontiac
BAD coaching, marginal O-Line, marginal QBs (Russ is done and Fields will never be more than a backup), ridiculous use of the skill players. Here comes a road playoff game where the Steelers trail 21-0 after the 1st Q.
@@NoOneYaKnow666 he’s been a nice bright spot and will likely be very good for us in years to come. Broderick took a step back this season. Dan Moore gotta go. McCormick was admirable all things considered but losing James Daniel’s was a big hit. I think Daniels was our best o-lineman. Isaac has been up and down and noticeably worse than last year. Luckily (and hopefully they continue this) the GM and assistant GM have a strong interest in the trenches.
@@Runescape_God Daniels was definitely our best o-lineman which is why it was so frustrating to only hear them talking about how he had to go because he was due a contract. You finally have an anchor on the o-line after all these years without, and you cant wait to let him go? Argh! His injury sealed his fate, sadly.
@@NoOneYaKnow666 I know, I agree completely. A lot of people were saying Isaac was the best o-lineman, but he’s shown a few too many poor performances and/or snaps since being here, and especially this year. Daniels has had his a handful of less than disireable performances too, but his lows weren’t as low, or as frequent, and I think he showed a ton of growth since being a steeler, and was having a great year before getting injured. It sucks.. back to the drawing board. Like I said, hopefully there’s a continued emphasis on trenches.
Idk how this is a shock to anyone. Early in the season they were making plays because of Fields athleticism. Then Russ came in and was very mediocre with some timely deep shots mixed in for his first 3-4 starts. Let’s say hypothetically the Steelers played the chargers, falcons, broncos right now with Russ. Do you think they still win those games? The Steelers are living in Mike Tomlin’s world. Keith Butler, Randy Fichtner, Teryl Austin, Matt Canada, etc. How many of these guys would be coordinators in the league if not employed by MT? The Steelers have had 2 coordinators in Tomlin’s entire tenure that were top 10 (LeBeau & Haley). Both of which weren’t Tomlin guys.
@@Keefer24but Russ sucks the most, might as well have kept mason rudolph. Tomlin believes in his heart Russ is elite and can take him to the Super Bowl and that is clearly not the case.
@@Keefer24you’re foolish.. it’s apparent you don’t understand how important a qb is.. all of this is his fault it starts with him he’s so easy to play against it makes everyone else job that much harder.. the line is giving him 3+ seconds the receivers are open he doesnt make the throws so now everyone can crowd the line and run blitz.. now the defense is on the field the whole game .. Wilson is terrible and he’s making a very talented team bad ..
@@ivmurk21 you bring up some valid points. With fields, it felt like they really had to gut out those games to get to 4-2 by relying on turnovers (or “splash”) and off schedule plays by fields. Then when Russ got in there things stabilized some, however it felt like they really had to bust their butts to beat the likes of the Jets, Giants, Bangles and they caught breaks against the Commanders and the Ravens in first meeting with Tucker’s 2 missed FGs. I mean those were hard fought victories still…..but damn your right they were never really all that good to start. It just took them seeing top flight teams for them to get exposed. Sucks 😩
Let's be real. Russ ain't so bright. Sean Payton knew that. Russ forces oversimplification of your offense. Plus he provides hilarious gaffs. I'm so embarrassed he's our quarterback.
Nobody adjusted to help Moore with Hendrickson. Not the coaching with a TE, and not the RB lining up opposite side of Hendrickson. GP shouldnt even get a game check. Single coverage and he dropped everything. Cant use him as a decoy either because he stands there every play he thinks hes not getting the ball. And Tomlin makes excuses for him...
Don't forget they sat in that horrible zone the entire first half and got picked apart like burrow was throwing against air. I truly thought this game was going to end 100-0
Doesn’t like the cold. I saw a 30 min interview with a young girl from Georgia after his rookie year and he said his number one issue about Pittsburgh was the ‘cold’…
I’m so sick of this offense & that run first mentality is so sick to watch. Russell Wilson can’t escape pressure & our running game is horrible. Just a complete disaster of a offense
This is the problem they want to be a run first team but they don't have the OL or running backs to do it, they can't get 1 yard. They continue to run the ball on every first downs in a wall, just wasting time going no where. I wish they come out throwing the ball to run it on first downs. First downs is killing this team and their inability to pick up yardage. No creative on offense and they don't throw the ball in the middle. The defense played well enough for this team to win and the offense is just stuck in mud. I don't think the steelers have great play makers on offense but I think the play calling could be better. I wish they would come out and just throw the ball down the field, throw it to Mike Williams or George when his head is right granted I don't think their OL is good on pass blocking but they need to throw the ball more on opening drives.
I find this revisionist history disturbing. Cowher only won 1 title in 14 years. People act like we were prime 70s Steelers under Cowher. I remember a couple AWFUL seasons during the Cowher era (not to throw shade at the Jaw, I loved Cowher, but let's talk facts).
Cowher won division titles and playoff games with Bubby Brister, Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomzack, Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox at QB. He had a franchise QB for 3 years, won 15 games the first year and the Super Bowl the second. Tomlin had the franchise quarterback for 14 years and won one title. Cowher everyday and twice on Sunday!!
@@thunderchubbs7640 1) AFC Central can't be compared to the AFC North. It just can't. The Ravens alone are a team that has won 2 SBs during the time they've been in the North. 2) Neither coach could beat the Patriots in the playoffs. Cowher had 3 losses, Tomlin only 1. Both coaches had 3 bad playoff losses (where they were the favored team and "laid an egg"). 3) Your comment about QBs is correct, however, the game was much different in the 90s. You could make SBs with Neil O'Donnell or Stan Humphries or win one with Mark Rypien as your SB. The RB position was much more highly sought after then it is now. Etc etc etc 4) In the end, both coaches had quite frankly great tenures (Tomlin is still ongoing obviously) that 99% of franchises would dream of. By all available metrics other than "vibes", they're incredibly similar.
Matt am I wrong in saying most of the blame should be on the offensive playcaller? How can you expect to have success when you’re constantly putting your team in 3rd and 8+ because you insist on running every first and second down
Tomlin os always treated like a bystander as if its everyone else but him. Defense stunk as well until Higgins went down. That defense will get walked on by any team left. Bengals lost Higgins amd somehow yhey were the 86 bears
How bout that Boswell fellas! It's all they got for offensive production. THEY STINK, THEY STANK AND THEY STUNK. But don't worry, it's not Tomlins fault (per usual)
Rooney’s prefer the comfort of 8-10 seasons and being “relevant” more than the idea of cleaning house, and possibly sucking for one season. The best teams in this league are ones who have made big changes in terms of coaching staff and are also teams who sucked for a season or two to ultimately to and draft that franchise-level QB.
I disagree about there being no other options than Wilson. Think of how many times he escapes the pocket by looping out and running to a sideline - but then chucks it out of bounds because he knows he ain't gonna get away from the USUALLY 1 guy that's chasing him. There is another QB on the team that would have turned many of those into positive gains. Wonder who that could be ??
I know they say we are a “spoiled” fan base for not having experienced a terrible season in a while . But honestly, I’d take that over these false hope seasons EVERY DAM YEAR .
At least with a bad season you have the hope of getting better with getting a star players, and we could’ve drafted Quinyon Mitchell and Brian Thomas Jr. but we chose lineman instead and they’re not that great and our 1st rdr got injured beginning of week 1. You have to tank to get a franchise QB, I don’t Give a F what anyone says. It’s the truth. Once our defense gets old we will.
@@JackSlatersPontiacI hear that , at least if we suck, I’ll accept it and not get my dam hopes up . We are always too good to get a decent draft pick and not good enough for the post season.
Thank you Matt. I agree The offense was terrible, The defense started out slow. I had hoped it would have changed . Great show Matt you really said it all.
The hardest thing to do is debating sports with someone that can only talk sports by looking at STATS and not by ACTUALLY READING THE GAME. When I hear guys dogging RUSS it baffles me. The man is milking his offense for all its worth. He's dealing with a TRASH O-LINE - DROPPED PASSES FROM RECEIVERS - TERRIBLE ROUTE RUNNING FROM RECEIVERS equating to RARELY BEING OPEN - PLAY CALLING HAS REMINDED ME OF THOSE TRASH ATLANTA FALCONS ...
Well Wilson has a lot of say ...don't kid yourself .And he doesn't say shit! Ben called whatever he wanted and trust ...Tomlin gives Wilson a whole lot of leash
I really hope they release Russel Wilson and bring back Justin Fields because the immobility of Wilson is really showing and if you look around the league every good team and good QB is also a mobile QB… and it looks like Russel Wilson is like a rookie or running scared out there!!! Man the Steelers need help on both sides
I would like to see Fields brought back but can the Steelers develop a quarterback? Wilson's time is over. Don't see his play improving. Time to go in a different direction. 👌
They both need to go next yr and Tomlin should eat humble pie and beg Rudolph to come back ,Fire Smith,and draft a qb .I still can't get past how star struck Tomlin got with Russ from the get .Yes he's a good guy ,Fields is too ,but they need more than that
The Steelers ignored their oline for like 7 years and now that they have a couple promising rookies they’re trying to play bully ball like the eagles or 9ers, running on every first and second down when they’re just not ready to be that kind of team yet. They refuse to change this strategy even over a whole season when it’s clear this line isn’t ready. They don’t give the QB a ton of time but they’re the young ones, they need help too schematically
Yup, same here. Guys like Williamson were calling for russ to start and how did that go? Everything people like us said about why fields should keep playing came true. Russ is not a good qb for the steelers o-line. He doesn't attack the middle of the field, he can't escape the pocket. He is very easy to game plan against. This is what happens when teams realized that.
8:02 he’s gotta be better but when you’re running routes and open the ball has to come your way.. QB refuses to make those throws but we keep asking Pickens to do the hardest stuff possible and never give him anything easy..
The nfl is a passing league now and has been for quite some time. Really puts into perspective how important it is to have a true franchise q.b. Say what you will about Big Ben but at least the team could actually move the ball downfield with a good passing game. On another note Burrows is really good.
Matt, I’m at a loss for words, man. The defense kept us in this game. The play calling, Russ’s play, and the lack of efficiency on offense is mind blowing. I think this offense is worse than when we had Canada. There is no rhythm. There is no - there’s no sense in their play calling. They don’t target their best players, and when they finally do, it’s too little too late. I am beyond frustrated. Add on the weird and awful coaching decisions by Tomlin and here we are. This franchise is crumbling apart. I am at the point where I don’t even want to watch the game next week.
Qb's were better last season ...I know im going to get torched for this but I said right away Wilson or Fields ain't it .Both good guys ,but they aren't what this team needs. And Canada/ Smith offensive schemes are almost the same
Many changes are needed, the two first being axing Tomlin and Smith and trading away Pickens. ASAP. But I doubt any change is coming with the Rooneys running things.
One thing is true every other headcoach in this league is the one that is held accountable for ilhis teams short comings.....they get the credit for success and they get the ax for teams .....this team has gone through offensive and defensive assistant coaches and nothing has changed for the better.....we have tried drafting and free agents and its all the same
I know everyone hates Justin Fields but he should start in the playoffs. We've seen enough of Russ to know we shouldnt resign him next season. Were probably one and done anyways, at least Justin might make it exciting.
Thanks for the content Matt. Mailbag question…Should we prioritize our Oline this FA? What are doing with Dan Moore? And James Daniels when he’s healthy?
The Dec fade has become a holiday tradition in Pittsburgh...last year was the exception. Team will go nowhere as long as Tomlin is in charge...just good enough to get you beat
2k24 IS the best Next Gen 2k and it gave everyone the ability to play their own unique style. Should’ve been the foundation for next gen titles to comes, needed refinement and more build balancing
I think the offseason is relatively easy. How many of these players do we need to retain? Jaylen Warren is the only player I can even think of. I will be devastated if we bring back Wilson and Najee. I just don’t see the upside of retaining those two players. Also can we talk about Tomlins cb room changing every year?
Sigh... Matt... why does this season’s ending feel like dejavu… it’s been a recurring experience, to the point where as a fan I can no longer get upset. I’m not in the fire Tomlin camp and I never have been, but it’s getting increasingly difficult to defend Tomlin right now… Are we at that crossroad? Is it time to start talking about new leadership with this team? Its been the common denominator in everything. Idk what to trust...Idk if Tomlin has actually improved as a coach... games, seasons, endings, like this make it hard to convince me otherwise. ugh... this is a painful experience What an awful beginning to 2025.
I never got why we didn’t just stick with Fields and end up 10-7 or bottom out at 5-12 to get a better draft pick, But Tomlin is to scared to ever have a losing season ,so he went with Russ who guaranteed the first round exit he was looking for
That 3rd and 1 before the half sums up this offense. They could have at least got a field goal to tie the game but turn the ball over because of two failed chances to get 1 yard. Pathetic
I said in the pre-season that Wilson wasn't the answer. He is too short for AFC North football where you need to throw to the middle of the field. Wilson won't step up in the pocket because he can't see over the linemen, and walks right into sacks...But, he's a Tomlin "guy"....I'm almost ready to give up on this team until Tomlin is gone...
Very disgusting !! Here we go AGAIN !! Make the playoffs and shown the exit !! I see a pattern here !! Tomlin , l like you…but it maybe time to change this up. Wilson does NOT need a new contract !! Bring back Fields next year
@ ok, then what draft one , after the good ones have been picked threw ? Get another one in free agency ?? Fields is still young, yes he needs some work. Has speed, needs to work on his passing game and reading defense !! Do that in off season and training camp.
Im starting to think its an organizational issue, not just the coach. They wanted Wilson because he was cheap when Darnold or Baker were out there. They're turning into the Pirates, trying to win with cheap players.
There is not an excuse on this planet that Najee is still featured beyond pig-headed stubbornness. There isn’t a single descriptor strong enough for how awful that is
Same thing over and over. Same najiee toss creating 3rd and long. Same Russ holding the ball to long. Same Pickens acting like he doesn't want to be there. This is a clean house moment. Cam Heyward is playing like a god at 35 and these kids on offense can't even try.
I am tired of the defense getting a pass. Cincinnati's first two drives were 5 and 6 and a half minutes. You can't blame that on being tired. Maybe that is acceptable if you are paid like a middle third defense. This is the top paid (overpaid) defense.
We couldn’t score 3 TDs on however many total possessions… and the first TD was totally penalty assisted. Were terrible man. The ravens are going to clap us back to reminiscing about 2010
When the Steelers lose to Baltimore next week their will hell to pay! It's time to show everyone in the Steelers organization that we are tired of this crap!
This is Mike Tomlin. He accomplished his goal for the season.
6 starting QBs and 3 OCs over the last 5 seasons and it always looks the same. One common denominator. It's time.
A very below average receiving core?
@@toptiertech7291
Whose fault is that...?
THE GM, THIS TEAM CAME INTO THE SEASON WITH ONE WIDE RECEIVER
@@samgayle9629 they did not wanna lose draft capital for overrated receivers let’s be real this is the perfect time to get better position in acquiring recievers
Tomlin has his fingers on the offense and defense, what's the point having offensive and defensive coordinators? Tomlin is a genius running EVERYTHING,! (A successful failure)
It sure doesn’t feel any different then Canada’s offense.
That's because it isn't. I think Smith is Canada in disguise hahahahah
I think Tomlin turned Smith into Canada. Trade in the bubble screens for pitch outs and it’s pretty much the same ol’ same ol’.
Strangely same offense for close to six years across different QBs and OCs
Less end arounds for sure 😂
Ive been sayin for months we havnt seen anything different since week 3!!! And folks were telling me to go root for another team..smh
Clean house time. New philosophy needed.
Bye Tomlin!
We gave the current philosophy an extension haha
Tomlin teams have never started games well thru his career, even with the Killer Bs. Its getting redicolous. To have this team in position to win the Division then they have a complete meltdown. Oline is garbage and there Wr are not good except for pockens , but pickens doesnt get the ball enough.
Let's bring in Aaron Rogers to play with Pickens next year 😂 🤪 🤣
@@Anthony-dj7ekPickens had 3 crucial drops last night.
10 years of this is enough
a promising season totally thrown into the trash. i just hate this
This is why I’m well compensated-Mike Tomlin
In my opinion, this is why pride is becoming MT’s fall… He’s really delusional, he loves “watching tape” yeah but this imploding at the end of every season is ridiculous…. there’s more blame to go around i’m done for now
@@tuck4603A lot of blame to go around.
@@Keefer24 you damn right
Wilson is committing the mistakes he was literally brought in to NOT make
@@Yeenz55it’s more than Wilson bud, you think this team is a QB away from being elite ? They are bad in almost every aspect of the game. 4 season out of 18 with playoff victories, it’s time for a change.
Cam Heyward is their best defensive back hahahahah. He stopped more passes than the secondary!!
And he was playing with the flu
If it were up to me I would fire the entire secondary.. that includes jpj who is only good because of his name
As a bengals fan, good grief i cant wait for that guy to retire
Those toss cracks are a killer. We pnly gain one yard or negative yards its ridiculous. Gotta get rid of that and the weak screens
It’s like watching the jet sweeps from the past. I hate it!
The worst part of all this? Is that this nightmare isn't over!
Correct! The Rooney Rule continues to haunt us
Rooney has lost his mind@@Adam-yx4hi
Man they are so bad, big changes are needed!!!
One game in 11 days is too much time to prepare. An elite head coach defensive mastermind can only do so much.
😂😂😂😂😂
Man O’ Man. Tomlin is worthless. No game plan. No scheme. No changes. No wrinkles.
Same ol” Steelers
We're regressing back to the 60's with SOS "Same Ol' Steelers".
I think Mike Williams should get more targets
I think Mike Williams was a mistake , but it doesn’t matter, Wilson can’t see over the lineman without a ladder, no matter how tall Mike is..
You and everybody else except Tomlin and Smith
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rudolph ...6'5" no fear in the pocket and great passer .Tomlin is clueless .Yes Wilson is a good guy .he's got limitations though @@JackSlatersPontiac
One and done in Tomlin town
@@JohnnyPerth we going home next week
Tomlin town mediocreville!!!
BAD coaching, marginal O-Line, marginal QBs (Russ is done and Fields will never be more than a backup), ridiculous use of the skill players. Here comes a road playoff game where the Steelers trail 21-0 after the 1st Q.
Awful o-line other than Frazier IMO.
@@NoOneYaKnow666 he’s been a nice bright spot and will likely be very good for us in years to come. Broderick took a step back this season. Dan Moore gotta go. McCormick was admirable all things considered but losing James Daniel’s was a big hit. I think Daniels was our best o-lineman. Isaac has been up and down and noticeably worse than last year. Luckily (and hopefully they continue this) the GM and assistant GM have a strong interest in the trenches.
@@Runescape_God Daniels was definitely our best o-lineman which is why it was so frustrating to only hear them talking about how he had to go because he was due a contract. You finally have an anchor on the o-line after all these years without, and you cant wait to let him go? Argh! His injury sealed his fate, sadly.
@@NoOneYaKnow666 I know, I agree completely. A lot of people were saying Isaac was the best o-lineman, but he’s shown a few too many poor performances and/or snaps since being here, and especially this year. Daniels has had his a handful of less than disireable performances too, but his lows weren’t as low, or as frequent, and I think he showed a ton of growth since being a steeler, and was having a great year before getting injured. It sucks.. back to the drawing board. Like I said, hopefully there’s a continued emphasis on trenches.
@@Runescape_God Agreed on all points.
Idk how this is a shock to anyone. Early in the season they were making plays because of Fields athleticism. Then Russ came in and was very mediocre with some timely deep shots mixed in for his first 3-4 starts. Let’s say hypothetically the Steelers played the chargers, falcons, broncos right now with Russ. Do you think they still win those games?
The Steelers are living in Mike Tomlin’s world. Keith Butler, Randy Fichtner, Teryl Austin, Matt Canada, etc. How many of these guys would be coordinators in the league if not employed by MT?
The Steelers have had 2 coordinators in Tomlin’s entire tenure that were top 10 (LeBeau & Haley). Both of which weren’t Tomlin guys.
Fields wouldn’t have won any of these games either. You guys need to stop acting like it’s just a QB problem. This team sucks from top to bottom.
@@Keefer24but Russ sucks the most, might as well have kept mason rudolph. Tomlin believes in his heart Russ is elite and can take him to the Super Bowl and that is clearly not the case.
@@Keefer24you’re foolish.. it’s apparent you don’t understand how important a qb is.. all of this is his fault it starts with him he’s so easy to play against it makes everyone else job that much harder.. the line is giving him 3+ seconds the receivers are open he doesnt make the throws so now everyone can crowd the line and run blitz.. now the defense is on the field the whole game .. Wilson is terrible and he’s making a very talented team bad ..
Rudolph was better
@@ivmurk21 you bring up some valid points. With fields, it felt like they really had to gut out those games to get to 4-2 by relying on turnovers (or “splash”) and off schedule plays by fields. Then when Russ got in there things stabilized some, however it felt like they really had to bust their butts to beat the likes of the Jets, Giants, Bangles and they caught breaks against the Commanders and the Ravens in first meeting with Tucker’s 2 missed FGs. I mean those were hard fought victories still…..but damn your right they were never really all that good to start. It just took them seeing top flight teams for them to get exposed. Sucks 😩
Let's be real. Russ ain't so bright. Sean Payton knew that. Russ forces oversimplification of your offense. Plus he provides hilarious gaffs. I'm so embarrassed he's our quarterback.
Nobody adjusted to help Moore with Hendrickson. Not the coaching with a TE, and not the RB lining up opposite side of Hendrickson. GP shouldnt even get a game check. Single coverage and he dropped everything. Cant use him as a decoy either because he stands there every play he thinks hes not getting the ball. And Tomlin makes excuses for him...
I despise 14 being on the Steelers! He must go!
Don't forget they sat in that horrible zone the entire first half and got picked apart like burrow was throwing against air. I truly thought this game was going to end 100-0
No help for Trice on Chase neither
Matt...Thanks for the analysis ... it was much needed therapy
George Pickens seemed to drop passes on purpose. Call me crazy, but I think so
Doesn’t like the cold. I saw a 30 min interview with a young girl from Georgia after his rookie year and he said his number one issue about Pittsburgh was the ‘cold’…
it defintiely felt like it.
He didn't want to play.. then he gets into an argument with the fans.. dump him too
@jonesynahmeen9088 maybe some authority should check his betting history ... hmm. He needs to go!
@ronhacker3806 but ya'll said Diontae was the issue 😅😅
I’m so sick of this offense & that run first mentality is so sick to watch. Russell Wilson can’t escape pressure & our running game is horrible. Just a complete disaster of a offense
This is the problem they want to be a run first team but they don't have the OL or running backs to do it, they can't get 1 yard. They continue to run the ball on every first downs in a wall, just wasting time going no where. I wish they come out throwing the ball to run it on first downs. First downs is killing this team and their inability to pick up yardage. No creative on offense and they don't throw the ball in the middle. The defense played well enough for this team to win and the offense is just stuck in mud. I don't think the steelers have great play makers on offense but I think the play calling could be better. I wish they would come out and just throw the ball down the field, throw it to Mike Williams or George when his head is right granted I don't think their OL is good on pass blocking but they need to throw the ball more on opening drives.
There's no crossing routes ! They definitely need to throw more on 1st down .And every team can figure out our pathetic offense ONCE AGAIN
If I’m Warren I’d want out. Patterson in before him?? And then we wonder why Arthur Smith is our OC… it’s a gut punch.
My dad always said Tomlin never cultivated a championship team ; that championship was off the tailcoats of cowher and LeBeau.
I find this revisionist history disturbing.
Cowher only won 1 title in 14 years. People act like we were prime 70s Steelers under Cowher. I remember a couple AWFUL seasons during the Cowher era (not to throw shade at the Jaw, I loved Cowher, but let's talk facts).
The titles are really on big ben and lebeau. Tomlin would never hire a lebeau because he doesn't want to be overshadowed
THESE FANS ACT LIKE BILL COWHER WAS BILL BELICHICK 🙄
Cowher won division titles and playoff games with Bubby Brister, Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomzack, Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox at QB. He had a franchise QB for 3 years, won 15 games the first year and the Super Bowl the second. Tomlin had the franchise quarterback for 14 years and won one title. Cowher everyday and twice on Sunday!!
@@thunderchubbs7640 1) AFC Central can't be compared to the AFC North. It just can't. The Ravens alone are a team that has won 2 SBs during the time they've been in the North.
2) Neither coach could beat the Patriots in the playoffs. Cowher had 3 losses, Tomlin only 1. Both coaches had 3 bad playoff losses (where they were the favored team and "laid an egg").
3) Your comment about QBs is correct, however, the game was much different in the 90s. You could make SBs with Neil O'Donnell or Stan Humphries or win one with Mark Rypien as your SB. The RB position was much more highly sought after then it is now. Etc etc etc
4) In the end, both coaches had quite frankly great tenures (Tomlin is still ongoing obviously) that 99% of franchises would dream of. By all available metrics other than "vibes", they're incredibly similar.
Matt am I wrong in saying most of the blame should be on the offensive playcaller?
How can you expect to have success when you’re constantly putting your team in 3rd and 8+ because you insist on running every first and second down
Run run pass punt, been that way since the Canada days….
Remember the jet sweeps last year ? Now it’s the pitch 😂
I’d imagine it’s because only now do they realize that Russ can’t move the offense.
Arthur Smith = Matt Canada 😞
@theabsc4361 Don't do Matt like that, he was bad but not bad and even more predictable. Smith is the worst that ever came to the burgh.
Canada was that bad
Tomlin os always treated like a bystander as if its everyone else but him. Defense stunk as well until Higgins went down. That defense will get walked on by any team left. Bengals lost Higgins amd somehow yhey were the 86 bears
Steelers Defense held burrow to 1td and #9 0/3 in redzone
Exactly what Matt said; this one is on the offense. Plus Tomlin even said it; not enough routine play making on offense.
How bout that Boswell fellas! It's all they got for offensive production.
THEY STINK, THEY STANK AND THEY STUNK. But don't worry, it's not Tomlins fault (per usual)
It’s time! Fire Tomlin and clean house! Even if that’s trading away your best asset! Enough is enough!
The owner is a problem too!!! It’s a shit show
18 years long enuff. It's ran its course
This team is done, every year is the same thing
Defense was great.. they had to play against 2 offenses
FIRST TO COMMENT! Play calling was horrendous. No middle of the field throws. Typical Steelers!!!
Rooney’s prefer the comfort of 8-10 seasons and being “relevant” more than the idea of cleaning house, and possibly sucking for one season. The best teams in this league are ones who have made big changes in terms of coaching staff and are also teams who sucked for a season or two to ultimately to and draft that franchise-level QB.
How is everyone enjoying Tomlin Purgatory? Eaten your fill yet?
I disagree about there being no other options than Wilson. Think of how many times he escapes the pocket by looping out and running to a sideline - but then chucks it out of bounds because he knows he ain't gonna get away from the USUALLY 1 guy that's chasing him. There is another QB on the team that would have turned many of those into positive gains. Wonder who that could be ??
And he still wouldn’t win any of these games either. What does it matter ?
I agree with you. Fields could have won this game.
Everytime the ball is hiked he's getting pressured from both sides.Broderick and Dan are trash
It’s the worst we’ve seen in years, which is really saying something.
I hate this team
I’m there forsure. I also believe if you gave this roster to another team they’d look way better lol. There’s something deeply wrong.
@@jim6807it’s the coaching like it has been for the last 8 years. There’s a reason nobody from Mike Tomlins coaching tree is hired anywhere else 😂
@@Keefer24 absolutely terrible lol. If Arthur Smith is the OC next year I won’t be watching I’m not kidding.
The offense looks just like last yrs with Canada and Pickett, wonder why? Any ideas
Matt Canada has returned ! 🇨🇦
Arthur Smith is terrible and predictable. Time to clean house including Tomlin. He keep hiring 1970 style coaches expecting to win in 2025
I know they say we are a “spoiled” fan base for not having experienced a terrible season in a while . But honestly, I’d take that over these false hope seasons EVERY DAM YEAR .
At least with a bad season you have the hope of getting better with getting a star players, and we could’ve drafted Quinyon Mitchell and Brian Thomas Jr. but we chose lineman instead and they’re not that great and our 1st rdr got injured beginning of week 1. You have to tank to get a franchise QB, I don’t Give a F what anyone says. It’s the truth. Once our defense gets old we will.
@@JackSlatersPontiacI hear that , at least if we suck, I’ll accept it and not get my dam hopes up . We are always too good to get a decent draft pick and not good enough for the post season.
Any Defense only giving up 19 points to Bengals when your offense only has the ball 22 minutes is a phenomenal achievement
We need younger OC/DC with fresh ideas. Tomlin likes these old vets that have been fired from other teams
Beyond Sick. Nothing else to say man
3 AND OUT IS THE STANDARD
Standard is the standard
this is what u wanted Matt, YOU wanted Russ
Thank you Matt. I agree The offense was terrible, The defense started out slow. I had hoped it would have changed . Great show Matt you really said it all.
The hardest thing to do is debating sports with someone that can only talk sports by looking at STATS and not by ACTUALLY READING THE GAME. When I hear guys dogging RUSS it baffles me. The man is milking his offense for all its worth. He's dealing with a TRASH O-LINE - DROPPED PASSES FROM RECEIVERS - TERRIBLE ROUTE RUNNING FROM RECEIVERS equating to RARELY BEING OPEN - PLAY CALLING HAS REMINDED ME OF THOSE TRASH ATLANTA FALCONS ...
Well Wilson has a lot of say ...don't kid yourself .And he doesn't say shit! Ben called whatever he wanted and trust ...Tomlin gives Wilson a whole lot of leash
There were guys wide open in this game.
@ Are you nuts. Even when you watched the game it was even noted how the Steelers receivers can't seem to get any separation.
I really hope they release Russel Wilson and bring back Justin Fields because the immobility of Wilson is really showing and if you look around the league every good team and good QB is also a mobile QB… and it looks like Russel Wilson is like a rookie or running scared out there!!! Man the Steelers need help on both sides
I would like to see Fields brought back but can the Steelers develop a quarterback? Wilson's time is over. Don't see his play improving. Time to go in a different direction. 👌
Listen to s. Sharpe on night cap about this game. Huge difference. No white wash there.
Watching the Steelers is starting to feel like hate watching the Rings of Power.
I hope Tomlin thanks Big Ben often for giving him a legacy lol
100% Russ is looking horrible, especially in the pocket, man we just got to give JF a go again. We need some sort of spark on O.
They both need to go next yr and Tomlin should eat humble pie and beg Rudolph to come back ,Fire Smith,and draft a qb .I still can't get past how star struck Tomlin got with Russ from the get .Yes he's a good guy ,Fields is too ,but they need more than that
The Steelers ignored their oline for like 7 years and now that they have a couple promising rookies they’re trying to play bully ball like the eagles or 9ers, running on every first and second down when they’re just not ready to be that kind of team yet. They refuse to change this strategy even over a whole season when it’s clear this line isn’t ready. They don’t give the QB a ton of time but they’re the young ones, they need help too schematically
If Tomlin is here next year, (and he will be) he'll bring in Aaron Rodgers. That should fix everything!!!!
10 straight games with a turn over? that's the wilson era
The only reason the game was even close, is because Chase dropped a touchdown pass and Burrows missed a wide open Gisseki in the end zone
13:16 all the things I screamed about against the jets and the giants I said when we play competent teams this would blow up now here we are
Yeah yinzers and the national media were acting like Russ had returned to save the Steelers and they were going all the way.
Yup, same here. Guys like Williamson were calling for russ to start and how did that go? Everything people like us said about why fields should keep playing came true. Russ is not a good qb for the steelers o-line. He doesn't attack the middle of the field, he can't escape the pocket. He is very easy to game plan against. This is what happens when teams realized that.
8:02 he’s gotta be better but when you’re running routes and open the ball has to come your way.. QB refuses to make those throws but we keep asking Pickens to do the hardest stuff possible and never give him anything easy..
The nfl is a passing league now and has been for quite some time. Really puts into perspective how important it is to have a true franchise q.b. Say what you will about Big Ben but at least the team could actually move the ball downfield with a good passing game. On another note Burrows is really good.
Matt, I’m at a loss for words, man. The defense kept us in this game. The play calling, Russ’s play, and the lack of efficiency on offense is mind blowing. I think this offense is worse than when we had Canada. There is no rhythm. There is no - there’s no sense in their play calling. They don’t target their best players, and when they finally do, it’s too little too late. I am beyond frustrated. Add on the weird and awful coaching decisions by Tomlin and here we are. This franchise is crumbling apart. I am at the point where I don’t even want to watch the game next week.
The defense shouldn't get any praise, they stopped barely stopped 2 players(Burrow/Chase) after Higgins got hurt.
Qb's were better last season ...I know im going to get torched for this but I said right away Wilson or Fields ain't it .Both good guys ,but they aren't what this team needs. And Canada/ Smith offensive schemes are almost the same
@@balayagesalon At this point I think it's pretty safe to say that King Henry and AJ Brown MADE Arthur Smith not the other way around.
Many changes are needed, the two first being axing Tomlin and Smith and trading away Pickens. ASAP. But I doubt any change is coming with the Rooneys running things.
Ben is gone. Canada is gone. Kenny is gone. But its still the same.
Rewarding mediocrity only gets you more mediocrity. Who'd have thought?
Mediocre Mike
This has been a total team collapse.
😂😂😂😂 yep
A coaching collapse
I've never seen two quarterbacks throw the ball away more than Pickett and Wilson
lol someone should have asked if this is the “great” Tomlin was referring to when he benched Fields
Need a quarterback and new coach this philosophy is not going to work
The "WE NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON" parade is gonna be lit this year.
One thing is true every other headcoach in this league is the one that is held accountable for ilhis teams short comings.....they get the credit for success and they get the ax for teams .....this team has gone through offensive and defensive assistant coaches and nothing has changed for the better.....we have tried drafting and free agents and its all the same
I know everyone hates Justin Fields but he should start in the playoffs. We've seen enough of Russ to know we shouldnt resign him next season. Were probably one and done anyways, at least Justin might make it exciting.
Justin fields should be starting at least he can run if the play breaks down
Tomlin needs to go before the Steelers can be competitive again. He can’t build a team including hiring coaches
Wilson was 4 of 8 for 20yds in the first half, that's a Tomlin wet-dream
Thanks for the content Matt. Mailbag question…Should we prioritize our Oline this FA? What are doing with Dan Moore? And James Daniels when he’s healthy?
The Dec fade has become a holiday tradition in Pittsburgh...last year was the exception. Team will go nowhere as long as Tomlin is in charge...just good enough to get you beat
The team was fading last season until Mason Rudolph saved the day.
Can you find the stats on how ineffective toss plays were this year?
2k24 IS the best Next Gen 2k and it gave everyone the ability to play their own unique style. Should’ve been the foundation for next gen titles to comes, needed refinement and more build balancing
I think the offseason is relatively easy. How many of these players do we need to retain? Jaylen Warren is the only player I can even think of. I will be devastated if we bring back Wilson and Najee. I just don’t see the upside of retaining those two players. Also can we talk about Tomlins cb room changing every year?
I’m done watching this season been a fan since 75 I’m tired of same bull shit every year !!!! 🔥 Tomlin
Sigh... Matt... why does this season’s ending feel like dejavu… it’s been a recurring experience, to the point where as a fan I can no longer get upset.
I’m not in the fire Tomlin camp and I never have been, but it’s getting increasingly difficult to defend Tomlin right now…
Are we at that crossroad? Is it time to start talking about new leadership with this team? Its been the common denominator in everything.
Idk what to trust...Idk if Tomlin has actually improved as a coach... games, seasons, endings, like this make it hard to convince me otherwise.
ugh... this is a painful experience
What an awful beginning to 2025.
I never got why we didn’t just stick with Fields and end up 10-7 or bottom out at 5-12 to get a better draft pick, But Tomlin is to scared to ever have a losing season ,so he went with Russ who guaranteed the first round exit he was looking for
Whatever it takes to get to 10-7 or 9-8! That’s our Super Bowl now!!!
Because he CAN'T see wide open WRs right in front of him!
It's like this coaching staff doesn't game plan for the other team. Like, "heres what we do, we're going to do it, no matter what"
That 3rd and 1 before the half sums up this offense. They could have at least got a field goal to tie the game but turn the ball over because of two failed chances to get 1 yard. Pathetic
Mediocre Mike allows it all. He is pathetic
Incorrect 3 failed chances at 1 yard Friermuth gained 9 on first down so it was even worse
@@AFL67pitt wow totally forgot about that, even worse!
Bad play calling... Russ should of sat out the second quarter.. If Tomlin doesn't make the necessary changes his ship will sink with Russ at wheel
The offense has looked the same since Haley left. Fitchner onward. The only consistent thing is Mike Tomlin. This guy def has a say in the offense
I said in the pre-season that Wilson wasn't the answer. He is too short for AFC North football where you need to throw to the middle of the field. Wilson won't step up in the pocket because he can't see over the linemen, and walks right into sacks...But, he's a Tomlin "guy"....I'm almost ready to give up on this team until Tomlin is gone...
Same
Trice played well too, made sure tackles even though Chase made plays, he played good coverage, even when Chase made some of those big catches.
I agree. Trice wasn’t bad. He has good coverage in the best wr in the NFL
I still felt it was wrong of the coaching staff to have him cover arguably the best receiver in the league just a few weeks off of injury
Well Trice is fast and a very good tackler. And he never really got burnt over the top for a 30 plus play I think he’s gonna be good next year
@ if he can stay healthy. The dude has had major knee problems
Very disgusting !! Here we go AGAIN !! Make the playoffs and shown the exit !! I see a pattern here !! Tomlin , l like you…but it maybe time to change this up. Wilson does NOT need a new contract !! Bring back Fields next year
Bring neither back
@ ok, then what draft one , after the good ones have been picked threw ? Get another one in free agency ?? Fields is still young, yes he needs some work. Has speed, needs to work on his passing game and reading defense !! Do that in off season and training camp.
Im starting to think its an organizational issue, not just the coach. They wanted Wilson because he was cheap when Darnold or Baker were out there. They're turning into the Pirates, trying to win with cheap players.
There is not an excuse on this planet that Najee is still featured beyond pig-headed stubbornness. There isn’t a single descriptor strong enough for how awful that is
Cant sustain a 3 down either off or my beloved Def definitely. Love you brother
Wilson is too short and the poor decisions make it so that keeping him on next year shouldn’t be a consideration.
Hard to judge Russ when the defense knows what you are going to do and Pickens and Friermuth dropping passes.
Same thing over and over. Same najiee toss creating 3rd and long. Same Russ holding the ball to long. Same Pickens acting like he doesn't want to be there.
This is a clean house moment. Cam Heyward is playing like a god at 35 and these kids on offense can't even try.
I am tired of the defense getting a pass. Cincinnati's first two drives were 5 and 6 and a half minutes. You can't blame that on being tired. Maybe that is acceptable if you are paid like a middle third defense. This is the top paid (overpaid) defense.
Felt like George Pickens was out there completely paid off doing a little sabotaging.
We couldn’t score 3 TDs on however many total possessions… and the first TD was totally penalty assisted. Were terrible man. The ravens are going to clap us back to reminiscing about 2010
When the Steelers lose to Baltimore next week their will hell to pay! It's time to show everyone in the Steelers organization that we are tired of this crap!
Russ was ate up with the Broncos we definitely got him as Cancer now we see what he is doing with the team !