How to ride over obstacles ADV style
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Making log crossings look easy is about having the correct technique. MotoGuru Bret Tkacs and master instructor Paul Solomonson break down the steps needed for everything from a simple small log to a large log. In addition to the riding techniques they discuss the difference of ramping or using a kicker to assist in crossing a larger obstacle.
for the kit made by Camel ADV to brace the footpeg here is a link
camel-adv.com/collections/hon...
www.RideTheFarm.com
adventure motorcycle training - Авто та транспорт
Best part is at 12:17 🤣🤣🤣
U guys have so much fun
One thing I picked up in this video that I really liked was what Paul said at around 2:45 - "just think about how you ride with your bike". Many times I stop and think "how should I approach this obstacle?", then I think about how I would have done it on a regular bike and it's usually pretty close!
Seeing that big girl flying is mesmerizing, I hope to be able to do stuff like that someday!
Clear and simple to understand -thanks Bret!
Me and Bart Simpson go to write 100 times on the board:
The larger the barrier, the lower the approach speed :)
Have to admit that I wouldn't be comfortable attempting any of this without plenty of practice on an old and light trailbike first. Wait, did I just talk myself into another toy?
It scares me to think that there are viewers needing this basic of instruction that may go try riding logs for the first time on big adventure bikes. Just keep in mind the danger of a cheap trail bike is the bike you want after that. 🤙
@@loomspace I've no doubt the leading cause of injury and death among bikers is the overestimation of one's skills and riding bikes well beyond their capabilities.
Bret's great because of his constant reminders to keep it safe, humble and fun.
invaluable info here.. thank you Bret and Paul .. the best part hides into the little details.. like taking off the luggage to avoid damage to yourself .. Well played Guys .. Hi from Italy
Bret and Paul. Thanks for coming out to the farm. We miss you two being around.
+1 on them being missed, and not because Blair said it first!
This is brilliant - you pair are hilarious and the content useful. Thank you for reducing the ongoing (often painful) trial and error process of offroading for us.
I'm glad the nether regions were not damaged. Had similar situation which I had to wait for 15 min before I could ride. Great tutorial as always
I recently bought a 2 stroke dirt bike. And stumbled when attempting a log jump. Thanks awesome advice.
I was almost moved to tears when you mentioned the foot peg on the 2016-17 AT breaks... Just bought a 2017 AT.
Contact Camel ADV... They make a bracket to fix the issue. It's a huge pain yo install but essential if you plan on riding the AT off pavement
Oh man, it's so great to see Paul on another video!!
Great demo and discussion, gents!
Always enjoy seeing Paul join you in these videos.
I don't know why I find your videos interesting as I've never done off roading and I'm getting a bit old to start now 🤣 I recently got myself a tiger 800xca not for off roading but I love love the style and comfort of it. Anyway keep making the videos for my next life 🤣🤣
I did my first ADV riding training at that farm!
Time to put the v-stroms up to a new challenge. 😁 Thanks for the video. Good thing you made it out without injury.
Haven't been offroad in a year. Got to watch all your videos from scratch :/
I got a lot out of your class. Learned a ton!
Wow I want to go out and practice it right away!
Great stuff as always
Great videos from you guys! Thank you so much for your efforts!
love the energy, great video!
Love the format of the videos with Paul. Appreciate the positivity!
Great video, great advice, thank you so much 👏👏👏👍
love your honesty, reason I subscribed, plus the knowledge you bring. Thanks .
Great tips Guys! Going to keep working on this!
Cheers!
I love the videos with you both together! So amusing and teaching in one.
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! I enjoy learning from your videos,
The best video ever!!! You guys together Rocks!!!
Thank you, i really need to practice this stuff. Curbs, small obstacles.
Watched MANY videos & this video has the best explanation & breakdown! Thank you!
Thanks guys! Very helpful info. New to adventure riding. Been applying the techniques from your current and older videos. It’s been working great! Love the “attitude matters” mantra! Now of to Patreon to slide you some jing! Looking forward to the next video. Ride safe!
Step by step information is great 👍 BTW thanks for video
Great video as always
Thx for your life changing work ;)
Great video and content as always. A couple thoughts; if somewhat new to this style of riding or just rusty, off road courses are a great way to learn and practice many of these skills. These skills are perishable, keep watching videos like this and practice these techniques while riding. It makes adventures more enjoyable and safer. Thanks guys!
Good to see more Paul!
Really enjoyed how well the techniques were explained in this video 👏👏👏
Phew for months I thought my broken footpeg was just the result of me being a noob ;) Thanks for the vid guys, love the info as always!
Awesome! Thanks for the tips!
Great team and video! You guys know your stuff!!!
Thanks, it's a lot of work to shoot and edit my own video. I try to include Paul whenever I can.
Thanks guys, log obstacles are something I need to practice more & this helps heaps.
great lesson !
Let's just say, it's gonna get festive! Oh, couldn't I agree more. Been there and broken stuff, hell yes!
You are super guys. Thank you...
Paul must be a fun guy to be with. Hilarious, spontaneous lines and a big pranker.
Great video. I have been practicing this on my light-weight Enduro bike, building up from small logs to bigger logs. Practice and building up confidence is key. Will eventually try it on a heavy Adventure bike. Cheers
It will no doubt take me hundreds or thousands of practice runs over a twig to develop this muscle memory, but it's inspirational to know how to start.
The next Evolution in Bret Tkacs videos is for him to do a helmet to hat swap in mid air.
Thanks Bret!!
Awesome video
Valuable lesson. Not only in technique, but also in thinking ahead. Like take away luggage. Good you didn't hurt yourself during the stunt.
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Useful. I was in a car park yesterday and there was a six inch log in front of me. I considered jumping it rather than going around the one way system, but wasn’t sure of the technique-I’d have jumped it on my mountain bike-now I know the blip works I’d give that a go.
I was in a parked car yesterday and there was a six inch log in front of me. Yeah, it didn't turn out like I thought.
Great video thank you
I would love to see this with a DCT.
same here
Same principle but (in general) I would add that you need to compress the suspension any time you want the bike to go over an obstacle (by using your brakes and/or body). You don't need kickers in most cases, compress the suspension.
Another great instructional video. The infamous weak right foot peg of the early africa twin. I hope mine does not break. Installing the camel brace next?
WOW 4k!!! what a camera. htanks for the video bro!
Great, thanka.
Amazing skills! Going to have to start practicing on a 2x4 in my yard lol. Not enough skills to try the 2 footer yet!
What a relief that Bret came thru that intact. And always a joy to have Paul's instruction.
Brett, I don’t know why you do this, but you’re fun and informative.
I do it to help others 🙂
O man, I was expecting double blip over that log... :)
Thanks
It is going to be interesting to see it on DCT.
Thanks👍!!
HAHAHA IT'S GOING TO GET FESTIVE!! i don't think i have ever heard it ever put that way, that was very funny, good vid and well explained. Thanks.
Corey Hansen over at Camel ADV makes a foot peg brace to deal with this issue. It mounts as a support to strengthen the aluminum standoff for the foot peg. This is a known issue on the AT.
Rear wheel kick &:nose wheelie is my nemesis
Kudos to you! except from the insanely nice information, i laughed so much! hahah excellente
I'm tempted to say proper rebound damping is key here too
Amazing video. I can see this as a practical skill for on road as well. BRC they teach how to go over objects but not to this level. I don't know where any off road areas are here but I'll have to give it a go in an empty parking lot. I had the left foot peg on my 1200RT break off one day, turns out the passenger peg fit just fine. Not sure why it broke but with nothing more than a pocket knife and no other options got it fixed on the side of the autobahn.
You mean, like over a Miata or Smart Car blocking the way? 😅
@@ElementofKindness LOL
one of the first big hits I took was from wet roots going through a muddy clear cut at walker valley (Webbers Wanderings was the trail) Thought I could blip it and fly over the roots. Well I did, but I also bucked my rear tire so hard it through my feet off the pegs and I went down hard on some rocks and mud. Definitely not doing that again, know your limits folks and practice practice practice.
Just realised Bret that your surname is either Hungarian origin or Polish. Nice video. 👍
Nice one. And I love the slow motion ! Best to see what's really happening. Btw, Bret, what did you do wrong that ended up breaking the peg ? Too stiff on the legs so they didn't absorb the initial shock ?
I believe that version (2016 and 2017) of the AT had a cast aluminum right foot-peg mount; the left side was cast iron, or steel. It is "somewhat" of a known issue and at least one company, Camel-ADV, has produced a solution for it.
Thanks for another tutorial!) could you explain how to handle it with DCT? In moment of crossing when you should pull the clutch, what to do with DCT?
DCT= sport mode so power is more immediate, timing needs to be right since there is no clutch
COVER THE REAR BRAKE so you don't grab the by accident when landing. Also body position is MOST important for DCT pilots in almost all technical section that clutched bikes.
When discussing any of these obstacles, it seems as though the rolling point needs to be below the axel to make the obstacle. When measuring this relationship, it seems easy enough to gauge whether the axel is simply higher (vertically) than the rolling point. However I don’t think this is necessarily the case. When using a “kicker” to help get over an obstacle, your angle of forward motion is no longer horizontal (it’s angled up) and so you should be able to make an obstacle that would otherwise seem too high relative the axel (when simply measuring vertically) since you will be approaching the rolling point at an angle as a result of the kicker.
I don't see myself ever attempting crossing a 22 inch log. I'm either finding a way around, or stopping to cut out a section. (yes, I've done the second, and yes, it's a lot of work, using a folding bow saw)
Would be easier to just build a ramp with logs and rocks
I will never be able to ride like Bret, but I am practicing swapping my helmet to hat. If there were a Guinness record I am sure Bret would hold it.
No doubt...( regarding the helmet-flat cap transition)
That's step one.
My first generation Oilhead had companies picking up parts on right side.
What brand is you driving hat? Love it.
that guest guy is hilarious
Hi, another great little video. Can you tell me what the clutch lever is on Paul's T7? All the best ,keep up the good work.
It is the OEM lever.
0:40 seconds in, and the magic is already happening!!! Cannot wait for the other 12 minutes, hahaha!
"Things are going to get a little, festive" :D
Great video you two hoodlums!
This seems great with a modern high powered ADV bike but I'd love to know what adjustments need to be made to accommodate my low powered and over weight KLR and '89 Africa Twin?
Ridding an old Africa twin over big logs can be challenging. In an Enduro in Vernon B.C. where I was told at that time I was the first one litre bike to make it through I went over a really big log probably 28 maybe 29 inches and it felt perfectly flat and smooth and beautiful I had the view of a low-flying aircraft looking at all the fellow riders below me. I did land I didn’t tip over but I don’t think the second and third bounce was an indication my suspension stock Africa twin is set up properly and I was not that graceful.
In this video, brett discovers that the right foor peg on the first gen africa twin is weak and prone to snapping.
Great breakdown of the I shit myself situation on a trail! Tips for next time!
Great video and thanks - as always. I assume you're in first gear for all these obstacles? Also, do you not compress the front forks at all just before you come onto the gas?
Compression before adding power I haven't addressed but I will use this using the front brake to preload the spring so that when I add power the rebound will assist.
Have you ridden a Honda Varadero, Bret? Id be very interested to see your thoughts - they apparently are not good off road, but people use them that way. I'm trying to incorporate your instruction into my offroad riding (as a beginner). The only thing I miss from your mototrek days is the soundtrack!
How much horsepower is needed for that big log? Well explained .
Awesome video! I noticed that Paul had a 1 finger clutch lever on his T7, may I ask if he make it himself? I've been poking around for a little while with no luck. After seeing the 2 finger clutch lever fitted on Bret's R1200GS Rallye I tried Wild@Heart, however they're still contemplating even making one for the T7...
It is the OEM lever on the T7.
@@paulsolomonson1746 👍👍 Thanks for the reply, Paul!
And here I thought you would show how to cross a log lengthwise. 😉
👍👍👍
Oh, unfair! I'm taking a DL1000XAL8 over that 18" log, and I have two inches less ground clearance, and two inches less suspension travel. Your 400lbs bike, handles differently than a 600+lbs)
I've gotten really good at straightening bash plates, and aluminum welding.
You said articulating boots but I watched another channel that recommended the stiff mid calf boots for entry trail riding
Here you go... ua-cam.com/video/65W7h1ttXXE/v-deo.html
You unloaded the bike, do you also dial out the preload in the suspension?
I did not change my preload but normally would reset from loaded to light. Having to much preload or to little rebound will make for a less pleasurable crossing
Bret, I ride a KTM 1290 SAS with the 19" cast front wheel. To what extent, if at all, would you consider performing this maneuver on a bike with the smaller, cast front wheel? Thanks.
Gonna make it slightly harder, plus cast wheels are designed for too much abuse, careful you don't crack a rim. 👍
it looks so easy when you are presenting it... how much HP to weight proportion you need to have to make it happen?
You don't need much HP at all.