Problem: Interior walls of modern homes are made of two slabs of drywall with a gap and wooden frame in between. 9mm ball can go through 3 and one of those cheap, hollowed out room doors. Cover in most modern built homes is virtually non-existent.
Seriously another great video guys. This is a great topic. I have in the past fallen into the trap of “I need to be perfect in CQB tactics” but forgetting that “wait do I even need to enter that building”. Lol I am enjoying your takes on these subjects. I am former military but am very much a civilian now and damn proud of it. A lot of my neighbors are new to firearms and ask me to teach them. I will bring them to the range and show them some stuff but suggest they should seek out a company to learn from. However they always ask about how to clear a building. Lol my response is “if you have to clear a building by yourself then you’re already fucked so it doesn’t matter” lol
"Maximum effective range" isn't just influenced by firearm mechanics, ammunition ballistics, and optics; the skill level of the shooter also matters. For example: if your max-effective range is 500-meters and their max-effective range is 200-meters, you've got 300-meters of standoff that gives you more options than the other guy. That's a huge advantage to give up if you opt to move to within 200-meters of the other guy.
Abso-f-lutely! Having enemy 35 yards from you with similar weapon equalizes your chances of losing, not just of winning. Spacing for you and enemy's obstruction of view helps you win the firefight. Optic choice as well. You got 1-10x on 500 yard shot, you can make it, of course, but if you got 6-24x on your scope, you got chances of winning rise probably by 5 fold. You should ALWAYS create space even in your home if your door is being broken down, as you step WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of the doorway, but still have yourself ready for enemy to come in.
If you live here in the US and are in a situation that requires CQB inside your house there's concealment but not a lot of cover inside a typical American home. There's not much that drywall will stop unfortunately an fmj 9mm round will go through a couple to 3 drywall sheets no problem unless it hits a doorframe or stud in the wall. Let's not even talk about 5.56. CQB inside an american home is extremely dangerous and I pray to God that I'm never in such a situation.
Me living in a very urban and populated city… cqb is a high priority. mostly “defensive” cqb. “raiding” a house is a death trap as you greatly explained. also yes explosives of any sorts are 100% needed but the avg civ has no access to. LE/mil obviously different. so im talking civ vs civ in a “shit hits the fan/“apocalypse” situation
It gets a little old when instructors try to say "CQB sucks, CQB is suicide, avoid it all costs" when 90% of the population lives in cities where the square footage of buildings is greater than the open space. We have 2 options, stand in the streets with absolutely no cover or concealment or go into a building.
I love the fact that you guys have high priority for civilians. Everyone assumes that the military teaches this stuff but the truth is after 22 years in the active navy being deployed 6 times to a hot war with the army I have never been to combat school ever. Civilian training far exceeds anything taught by the military. Glad you guys are here! BTW SEALs are not navy.
All the good guys are unfortunately either kia or left a while ago. Most of out military is a joke now. My brother is about to get out and said its disgusting now. Went to the range with him recently and he laughed and said “im glad im coming home, id rather have you out there next to me than these goofballs in there now”. They got them shooting like 3 mags every month with minimal training. Talking to my friend who fought in iraq and got sent home on 2nd deployment because he got shot up in a fight its not how it used to be at all. Its sad really. Only hope our country has left are the good ones left inside and the men and women that will fight to protect their family and countrymen like the old days.
@@xo_ectophylla_alba_xo at least for army thats what theyre doing. Im Sure the specialized units and seals, devgru, berets, rangers, etc are putting in work but almost the entire army infantry is getting spit on
I am going to be brief in that conversation. CQB sucks because you got enemy very close and your chances of losing are just as big as your chances of winning. As a person who practices long range shot, I understand that spacing from the enemy is the most important thing. To have advantageous position at all times. Running around and gunning, by showing EVERYONE how "big your wang is" is only for people that need more self assertion or you are put in the situation where you have no other choice. Even at your home if you have an intruder, first thing you should do is to create space between you and the enemy. If they can grab you pistol or whatever, your chances of survival decrease dramatically. This is why I feel for SWAT units, dealing with CQB combat all the time. Yet, this is why SWAT has sniper units, to reduce loss of their own officers, and to prevent civilian losses.
Amateur firearms instructor, CQC is relevant to my job so I'm always teaching my guys and trying to teach some friends in my free time, I always open and end my CQC/CQB classes with "Don't look for CQC"
The easiest way to prove that CQB sucks is to do force on force with airsoft and frags, flash bangs and smokes and tell the asaulting force to just clear a multitude of enemy building with some occupied and other empty with an unspecified amount of enemies and see how many people die after first contact. I'll alway hold the stand point that machineguns, grenades, tanks, explosives and rocket launchers are the name of the game in CQB. If you don't have a ton of ammo and grenade CQB should not even cross your mind especially as a civilian where getting any machine is an expensive long process much less grenades and explosives so in conclusion your not really training for a warlike CQB senario but hostage rescues and surprise raids.
Yes, but most people in US learn cqb for a self-defense / intruder situation. Meanwhile many guys here in Eastern Europe that Border with Russia, we rather Train what is happening in Ukraine
Cqb should still be trained even as a private individual. Because in the event that you have to use it (home invasion, structure fighting etc) you won’t get to choose to just *not* participate. You won’t get to say “I don’t have grenades or machine guns so I won’t participate in this gun fight” No. you have to participate. Your likely hood or encounter grandes and machine guns as a private individual are also not high. So that’s not a problem that you will have to deal with usually. So it’s gonna come down to the smarter, better, more trained gunfighter and sometimes even the luckier one. You’re gonna have to make a move and it’s better to have training that’s been proven to work at least 7 times out of 10 more often than not than to just not have any at all.
I want to clarify something. Alot ofpeople who learn CQB think its cool because its like the delta operator or seal or whoever they see on youtube. They do not think that the most likely situation to use CQB is home defenseand and most of those who learn it for home defense are taught CQB by some guy who did it professionally with a team with all the fancy gear and don't realise that CQB for home defense should not be taught like the CQB used in hostage rescue or for combat but it needs to be tailored to the civilian setting first and you can go learn whatever other CQB tactics later.
i played airsoft for 10+ years. cqb SUCKS. but i rather have a basic understanding of it than putting it on the bottom of my list especially living in a mostly urban and heavily populated city
CQB solved with grenades… which civilians should have.
Yeah, good luck getting up a stairway if the bad guys know you’re coming, without some sort of explosive.
This is how I do it in video games. Chuck a few nades hear them groan to death and then go in with the Boiiiiz! 🤙
I would want some flashbangs if I am inside my house. I'd rather not frag my place
at least we can get some IWA international
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Problem: Interior walls of modern homes are made of two slabs of drywall with a gap and wooden frame in between. 9mm ball can go through 3 and one of those cheap, hollowed out room doors. Cover in most modern built homes is virtually non-existent.
Solution: fill your interior walls with sand.
New problem: Your wife might divorce you.
Rip one burst from an ak
The entire wall collapses on the opposing group
@@BuckFoeJiden Based Defense🤣
@@xo_ectophylla_alba_xo Reminds me of the scene from The Book of Eli when there was a shootout at the house.
In Afghanistan some of those huts were made out of sturdy shit.
Over here, not so much.
Every door and hallway is a roll of the dice no matter how good you are.
Seriously another great video guys. This is a great topic. I have in the past fallen into the trap of “I need to be perfect in CQB tactics” but forgetting that “wait do I even need to enter that building”. Lol I am enjoying your takes on these subjects. I am former military but am very much a civilian now and damn proud of it. A lot of my neighbors are new to firearms and ask me to teach them. I will bring them to the range and show them some stuff but suggest they should seek out a company to learn from. However they always ask about how to clear a building. Lol my response is “if you have to clear a building by yourself then you’re already fucked so it doesn’t matter” lol
It sucks because there are no good options.....only less worse ones.
Cest la vie
OTG, Ronin Tactical, and the two videos Dirty Civilian dropped on CQB is a great source of knowledge for this topic. Good video. Keep it up.
"Maximum effective range" isn't just influenced by firearm mechanics, ammunition ballistics, and optics; the skill level of the shooter also matters.
For example: if your max-effective range is 500-meters and their max-effective range is 200-meters, you've got 300-meters of standoff that gives you more options than the other guy. That's a huge advantage to give up if you opt to move to within 200-meters of the other guy.
Abso-f-lutely!
Having enemy 35 yards from you with similar weapon equalizes your chances of losing, not just of winning.
Spacing for you and enemy's obstruction of view helps you win the firefight.
Optic choice as well. You got 1-10x on 500 yard shot, you can make it, of course, but if you got 6-24x on your scope, you got chances of winning rise probably by 5 fold.
You should ALWAYS create space even in your home if your door is being broken down, as you step WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of the doorway, but still have yourself ready for enemy to come in.
Keep up the well explained videos. There are still some of us left that will watch and continue to learn.
If you live here in the US and are in a situation that requires CQB inside your house there's concealment but not a lot of cover inside a typical American home. There's not much that drywall will stop unfortunately an fmj 9mm round will go through a couple to 3 drywall sheets no problem unless it hits a doorframe or stud in the wall. Let's not even talk about 5.56. CQB inside an american home is extremely dangerous and I pray to God that I'm never in such a situation.
Me living in a very urban and populated city… cqb is a high priority. mostly “defensive” cqb. “raiding” a house is a death trap as you greatly explained. also yes explosives of any sorts are 100% needed but the avg civ has no access to. LE/mil obviously different. so im talking civ vs civ in a “shit hits the fan/“apocalypse” situation
It gets a little old when instructors try to say "CQB sucks, CQB is suicide, avoid it all costs" when 90% of the population lives in cities where the square footage of buildings is greater than the open space. We have 2 options, stand in the streets with absolutely no cover or concealment or go into a building.
I don’t always CQB but when I do I choose guys who couldn’t drag a buddy out of the house
There is NO good way to clear a stairwell
I love the fact that you guys have high priority for civilians. Everyone assumes that the military teaches this stuff but the truth is after 22 years in the active navy being deployed 6 times to a hot war with the army I have never been to combat school ever. Civilian training far exceeds anything taught by the military. Glad you guys are here! BTW SEALs are not navy.
All the good guys are unfortunately either kia or left a while ago. Most of out military is a joke now. My brother is about to get out and said its disgusting now. Went to the range with him recently and he laughed and said “im glad im coming home, id rather have you out there next to me than these goofballs in there now”. They got them shooting like 3 mags every month with minimal training. Talking to my friend who fought in iraq and got sent home on 2nd deployment because he got shot up in a fight its not how it used to be at all. Its sad really. Only hope our country has left are the good ones left inside and the men and women that will fight to protect their family and countrymen like the old days.
@@rickypickles2219 Seriously? Holy duck, and I laughed at 90s Russia 😅😅 That sounds awful, man 😅
Very much depends on what part of the Army. Paratroopers, Rangers, and Sppecial Ops teach this stuff every day.
@@xo_ectophylla_alba_xo at least for army thats what theyre doing. Im
Sure the specialized units and seals, devgru, berets, rangers, etc are putting in work but almost the entire army infantry is getting spit on
@@rickypickles2219 Oh God, I think I would castrate myself if the Marines let their game get flaccid. Please don’t scare me like that 🫣🫣🫠
Ben Franklin Range in PA! 1 hour north of Pittsburgh PA.
Idk probably do what the AFT did at WACO 😂
Burn the shit to the ground
Thank you for your common sense approach
I am going to be brief in that conversation. CQB sucks because you got enemy very close and your chances of losing are just as big as your chances of winning.
As a person who practices long range shot, I understand that spacing from the enemy is the most important thing. To have advantageous position at all times.
Running around and gunning, by showing EVERYONE how "big your wang is" is only for people that need more self assertion or you are put in the situation where you have no other choice.
Even at your home if you have an intruder, first thing you should do is to create space between you and the enemy.
If they can grab you pistol or whatever, your chances of survival decrease dramatically.
This is why I feel for SWAT units, dealing with CQB combat all the time. Yet, this is why SWAT has sniper units, to reduce loss of their own officers, and to prevent civilian losses.
Amateur firearms instructor, CQC is relevant to my job so I'm always teaching my guys and trying to teach some friends in my free time, I always open and end my CQC/CQB classes with "Don't look for CQC"
Garret starting off his website url with, "www" lol
The easiest way to prove that CQB sucks is to do force on force with airsoft and frags, flash bangs and smokes and tell the asaulting force to just clear a multitude of enemy building with some occupied and other empty with an unspecified amount of enemies and see how many people die after first contact.
I'll alway hold the stand point that machineguns, grenades, tanks, explosives and rocket launchers are the name of the game in CQB. If you don't have a ton of ammo and grenade CQB should not even cross your mind especially as a civilian where getting any machine is an expensive long process much less grenades and explosives so in conclusion your not really training for a warlike CQB senario but hostage rescues and surprise raids.
Yes, but most people in US learn cqb for a self-defense / intruder situation. Meanwhile many guys here in Eastern Europe that Border with Russia, we rather Train what is happening in Ukraine
Cqb should still be trained even as a private individual. Because in the event that you have to use it (home invasion, structure fighting etc) you won’t get to choose to just *not* participate. You won’t get to say “I don’t have grenades or machine guns so I won’t participate in this gun fight” No. you have to participate. Your likely hood or encounter grandes and machine guns as a private individual are also not high. So that’s not a problem that you will have to deal with usually. So it’s gonna come down to the smarter, better, more trained gunfighter and sometimes even the luckier one. You’re gonna have to make a move and it’s better to have training that’s been proven to work at least 7 times out of 10 more often than not than to just not have any at all.
I want to clarify something. Alot ofpeople who learn CQB think its cool because its like the delta operator or seal or whoever they see on youtube. They do not think that the most likely situation to use CQB is home defenseand and most of those who learn it for home defense are taught CQB by some guy who did it professionally with a team with all the fancy gear and don't realise that CQB for home defense should not be taught like the CQB used in hostage rescue or for combat but it needs to be tailored to the civilian setting first and you can go learn whatever other CQB tactics later.
@@FDCNC this I agree with. Cqb for private use has different priorities of work. Some of the concepts are the same but some things are also different.
i played airsoft for 10+ years. cqb SUCKS. but i rather have a basic understanding of it than putting it on the bottom of my list especially living in a mostly urban and heavily populated city
It sucks to do, smokes you by the end of it. Civilians talk about how cool it is, but very few understand it isn't like COD
Yo reach out to Lake Bailees in Trenton Ohio. Outdoor range out to 300m with steel and a 25yd pit. Would have guaranteed 10 ppl sign up maybe more.
Good stuff
Summary is misspelled as Summery.
Thanks
hey i shot this demon what should i do with it
Full-body mount. Just make sure your taxidermist is experienced with such entities.