I watched a lot of tutorial videos on Kitesurfing and hands down yours are just the absolute best! Your calm voice and the way you carefully explain everything is great. Camerawork and editing (like showing the bar movement) and the general structure of every video is awesome too. You are a really good teacher - thank you so much!
One key thats left out but you can see it is when steering the kite to 12 you need to sheet out on the bar all the way to prevent being pulled off your edge and letting the kite speed up. I had to learn that part myself, i could figure out why i was getting ripped down wind as soon as I tried to jump and why the kite was slow to get to 12. Sheeting out on the bar as you send it to 12 is a very important part that thyere assuming you know.
At the moment of edging the board, just after sending the kite to 12 for the jump, simultaneously bring your bar all the way out. this will help getting a good edge and also give you a good pull range to take off, great vid Alex!
Thank you for such a simple, detailed and informative video on how to jump higher. I cannot seem to get over 9m but I know exactly, at last, what I've been doing wrong. I've watched numerous videos but none of them, in my opinion, were as clear and to the point. Excellent Advice.
really nice tutorial. I've been jumping higher but my landings are definitely not smooth yet. I've been trying to look up the heliloops and after watching I am definitely trying it next session, as long as the wind is not too strong obviously. last sessions was like 22-30 with 9m so didn't want to risk it
Finally a good detail video about the jump and the heli loop! Im getting close to 10m but front stall often on landing. Cant wait to practise your heli loop tips thnx so much!!!
If your gonna heli loop as I like to do on bigger jumps couple things to note to save pain. Make sure you have started to descend and kite is near 12 or you will kite loop or mega loop and smash your self out. Ride a kite that turns good and of a size that you can ride without needing to depower it. The more you have to trim or depower it the slower and bigger the heli loop will be. To commit to the loop sometimes I have found it best to almost hang on bar with one hand. Sometimes you thinking your cranking it with two hands and your not. Pulling the bar almost 90 degrees is safer than not pulling enough. In my opinion
Awesome video! Excellent explanation, makes good sense. This is going to help me a lot. I started kitesurfing last December 2018 and started to work on jumping this June through present. To many occasions my kite would front stall after trying for a big jump and just leaving the kite at 12, the kite would front stall then invert and then crash. I would have to take it back to the beach to fix the mess. Thank you for this video!! Appreciated!
Great video...at last somebody really took the time and effort to put it all together....thanks guys from Argentina, I will try to beat my 7 meters limit with this info
@@psychoticdaizyproductions569 Hey! I'm sorry for the late reply hahah, Yes I've learnt it by my own! Some kite mates gave litte advices but, in general, I had to learn it the hard way and crash hundred times! But I don't regret even a single crash cause thanks to that, now I'm enjoying the view from the clouds!!
😎👍 outstanding. Added to Top Kiteboarding Tutorials. I had to learn this stuff by myself. Great to see someone taking about Heli loops. My favourite landing procedure 🙃
Wonderful helpful video. I’ve watched it before, but am finally getting to the point where I understand it better. I don’t know how high I’m jumping, but it’s high enough that landing incorrectly is hard on my knees and back. I am going to try turning my kite back and then forward thru the sweet spot to see if that solves my problems. Thanks very much.
Unlike some videos made by a well known Greek-Russian, this video explains it very well. The Heli-loop is certainly a trick I didn't know, which comes to good effect; and without too much emphasis on the load-and-pop, which a lot of guys focus too much on and still loose height.
Excellent video! Thanks a lot for finally making that jumping higher video real! Great & very helpful tips and explanations - looking forward to try it in my next sessions hopefully soon🏄🏽♂️🛸
Thanks for an excellent video. I tried my first heliloop a few weeks ago. I think I started a kite loop instead by accident and abborted early as I got pulled really hard which scared me. Would this be due to initiating the heliloop too early or steering in the wrong direction into the wind window? I'm pretty sure I steered with my front hand, though it all happened very quickly and it shocked me enough to not try again until I understand the theory more (BTW in hindsight it wasn't the best conditions for practicing as while the water was flat it was 30-40 knots - was riding a 7 meter Evo).
One critical part of the instruction that's missing (although in the video the guy does it) is to pus the bar out fully as kite approaches 12 on the takeoff. Otherwise the kite is half sheeted already when at 12 leaving much less to pull! You want a fully loaded kite at 12 to get those big jump. I was struggling and only learned this from an instructor recently.
This is an important missing detail. The instructions (7:22) say to pull in the bar as much as you can handle, and then when the kite hits twelve pull in the bar, but there's no mention of when in-between the bar is (necessarily) pushed out - when is the best time for that?
You're videos are inspirational. I'm always desperate to get out on the water after watching one. I have a possibly controversial question about jumping higher. What these guys are doing are obviously working and im sure they are higher on the woo board than me haha! However, in the video between 4.55 and 5.15 you see the dude do two big jumps. The technique looks just how I'd intend to do except as he redirects the kite hard for take off he pushes the bar away to full deepower position. I've found if you do this too much then you can lose tension in the lines and therefore get lower jumps. In my experience it's best to keep as much tension in the lines until take off, which would mean keeping the bar pulled in enough even just before take off. I can see 2 situations where you might need the bar at full depower. 1. If you are fully lit and even with bar at full depower you still have tensioned lines 2. Maybe what this guy is doing, which is he's redirecting the kite so fast that he has to push the bar away to not be ripped from his edge and he's talented enough to keep the line tension during this quick movement. I can also see how pushing bar away will help kite climb to 12 quicker to jump higher. Just think it's important for the average 5 to 10m height jumper to realise that keeping that bar in a bit even as you redirect can be helpful. Any sudden changes in line tension could lose you power just before takeover. Interested to hear your thoughts
Hey there, i am not a pro but i think it is because is still quite low for the part of speeding yourself up and he wants the kite to get up to 12 as quick as possible so he can jump, which the kite does quicker if the bar is pushed away. Otherwise he´d initiate the jump when the kite is too low and get more horizontal pull instead of upwards. Does that make sense? Did this answer your question? Hope it did. Have fun!
Hey man your videos are always top notch and class. I have a problem and I'm not sure the issue. I have not problem boosting high but when landing I struggle to orientate the board down wind and end up getting yanked forward. Do you have any advice? Thanks
Great techincal video.... ive been kitesurfing 12 yrs jumping for most of that " stomp down hard !?" ..i feel is incorrect edge like hell as fast as possible . Keep on edging while steering kite and pulling in .. 😁 and scream. As hight will be high .
07:48 this is essential - with higher jumps there is more risk in injury by losing orientation and accidentally diving your kite, while you are airborne. I just lost a Gopro two days ago as the impact on the surface ripped it off my helmet.
Thank you for this tutorial! I've got 2 observations though: 1) In almost every jumping tutorial on youtube the rider pushes the bar before jumping but it is never mentioned. You can see it in this video at about 4:56, 5:10, 5:19, 7:37. Won't you loose tension in the lines doing so? 2) Something else which is never mentioned is right tack to ride before jumping. Should it be upwind or a bit less than upwind?
Good questions Philip. 1) When you're going for a boost, you're steering the kite up really rapidly and it will start pulling early, way before it nears 12, and that can easily drag you off your edge prematurely and spoil the entire jump. To stop yourself getting dragged off your edge as the kite climbs, you often need to sheet out. 2) It's pretty close to crosswind as you build speed and maybe 15 degress upwind of crosswind at the moment of launch, I'd guess. However, I don't really think about the exact angles while boosting. I'm usually preoccupied with keeping lots of speed at first (I instinctively aim more crosswind to build speed), then I'm focused on keeping contact with the water, and edging as much as I can at the final moments (which probably turns me slightly upwind of crosswind).
Thank you! Well done! Right before takeoff I tend to lose speed quite a lot since I edge so hard.. This seems to be a problem because I don’t get as high as I probably could. Do you have a solution to this issue? Maybe I edge for “too long” and lose my momentum? Or maybe I edge with too much effort which results in a low speed? Maybe you are familiar with this and can help me out. I would appreciate!!
Hello Tim, it's difficult to say without seeing for myself. There are a few possibilities. Possibly your kite is taking too long to climb which is allowing you time to slow down. You shouldn't have any time to slow down if your kite climbs as quickly as it can. Is your kite shooting up quickly or sluggishly? Alternatively, it's possible you're aiming too far upwind with the board and over edging. Does it feel like your board is skidding or skipping?
@@kitesurfcollege I think I have the same problem that I'm trying to edge as much as I can to build line tension but it's then hard to do that last carve upwind when your board is already under the tension
About being able to hold more power.. you state the opposite of what this guy Anton states in his Learning to Fly videos on kite jumps. He says that you should apply more force on your front foot since this prevents your board from slipping in the water. He also states that you should lean back more
I love hights, so just focused on getting higher, but I never learned how to "land" so to day in 30+knots I flew the highest and landed soo hard, that I'm here to see how to actually land xd
@@kitesurfcollege Hey Alex, I braved 4+m waves in SA before lockdown, and now have been working toward jumping w/ a loop. Thanks to these videos, I'm becoming more consistent w/ jumps and loops separately, and will soon try to put them together! :) We all appreciate the time and effort you've put into this excellent channel!
Everyone always talks about jumping "when the kite reaches 12". I am very inconsistent in my jumps over 3m and one thing I think I am hung up on is: what angle should the kite be at - that is the angle from an imaginary line vertially upwards from the kiter's head, to the lines to the kite (not left or right)? in other words: how deep in the window. I notice that the faster I steer the kite, the deeper the kite goes back into the window on its way to 12 - and edging to counter this I guess forces the kite to fly faster towards the edge of the window (0 degrees to vertical line) - but if you are waiting for the kite to almost get above your head, it loses a lot of power. On the other hand - too early and you just get cranked downwind with sub-optimal lift. So it seems to me the optimal time to edge/pop and pull in the bar for the yank is somewhere in-between, could you explain this process?
Hi, it's important to note that 12 does not mean overhead. If you draw a line starting directly overhead to directly downwind, that line is 12. It is not one place. It is the division between the left and right of the wind window. When the kite hits that line you pull in the bar and take off. Exactly which part of that line the kite hits will depend on you steering when you send the kite up. Slower steering will mean the kite is closer to over head (a higher angle on the 12 line) and you get less force and a lower jump. Firmer steering will mean the kite is deeper in the window when it hits 12 (a slightly lower angle on the 12 line), and you will get ripped off the water more violently. In both cases the time to launch is as the kite hits 12 approximately. Pulling the bar in before it hits 12 means a longer lower jump and provides less vertical component of the kite's force. Pulling the bar in after it crosses 12 sheds a lot of speed and again provides less vertical component of the kite's force. Good luck working on your timing.
Bring your board up is the simple answer. Look where you want to go. Notice your shoulders, jump both ways and see how your body and shoulders are different. Practice using your back hand for grabs, this also stablises your body during the jump.
@@mrmonkeboy I used to agree with this method until I saw learning to fly kiteboarding. If you jump with a straight body as gr does in this video it will prevent you from rotating. As soon as you lift you legs up you turn into a ball that will rotate easier. Think about the last backroll you did? If you leave your body straight it will be slow backroll. Tuck your legs right up and you can get your first double backroll 👍
Hi Alec. I wouldn't even consider it. If you look at the highest jump recorded without a wave, which was about 33m, that guy kept his edge continuously and didn't lift the board out. I'd say for pro kiters it's 50/50 whether it helps or hinders. It's most likely to do with board shape. High rocker boards create far more drag at speed, so lifting a high rocker board may help you reach a slightly higher speed as the kite climbs. But with a lower rocker, faster board, lifting the board will probably slow you down. However, for an intermediate or even advanced kiter, incorporating this extra detail of lifting the board, will probably mean they are concentrating less on far more important details like speed and edge pressure. So for almost all kiters trying to lift out the board during the build up will give poorer results.
Thank you for this video and your troubleshooting about landing. You emphasize a lot on keeping the edge while going faster or sending the kite faster to 12. What about edging hard towards the wind to improve jump height?
Marc Poitout I guess edging hard towards the wind will not really help you jump higher, because the most important thing about jumping high is the line pressure. The higher this pressure is the more brutal the kite will send you upwards, by edging towards the kite there won‘t be much line tension and much of the power the kite creates will not reach the rider!
Hi Freddy, Thank you for your reply. When the kite goes to 12, it is moving in one direction. When you edge hard, your body is going to the opposite direction and therefore the anchor point for your front line as well. Therefore you are increasing the front line tension when you edge hard just before taking off.
Hi Rudi. Firstly, lots of practice is the key to choppy conditions - since you need to control the kite and board, while also watching (and reacting to) the water's contours. Also, it's important to plan where you will take off - don't jump where the water is the most choppy. If you try to build speed and take off where there are a few bumps close together you will loose your edge. You need to look for a flatter section, then quickly build speed and take off in that section. You also need your legs to act like suspension, contracting over peaks and extending in troughs - so that you don't loose contact. Good luck, Alex.
Hello I like your videos they are awesome man!! I have a doubt regarding bar tension, some people say once you get bar tension, you don't loose it. In your video I see the rider creates tension, but one moment before it jumps, he extends the bar up and after he pulls. So my question is, which is the best technique to create tension, and never loosing it? Or create tension and one moment before jumping takeout the bar and then pull it? Thank you for your videos, I´ve learned so much in them!! Gracias!!
Great video. I noticed when you heli looped it toward 12, the end of the loop had the kite facing the wrong way to "ride out" - what do you do to avoid that? I think I have enough bravery to heli loop towards 12, but it doesn't seem like it fixes the issue of stopping when you hit the water. The loop the other way seemed better for riding out, since the kite was pointed correctly to ride out at the end of the loop.
That's awesome! When edging before the jump I often hit the water with my bum and legs as I lean back (and lose all and edge speed). I see at 6:20 you almost touch the water but... you don't. Should I try to edge more with the upper body, less with the lower body?
@kitesurf College we can see you pulling on the bar (and releasing) quickly at least twoce before the final pop and pull and take off. This is not thr 1st time and the only video i see of advanced riders doing those quick pre jump yanks on the bar. has it got anything to do with the preload pop, that is obviously not in the scope of this vid, or is it something else?
Thank you for this very interesting video. I am very concerned by this topic as I'm stucked at 5-6 meter jump. I try to keep maximum tension in the lines but when sending the kite to 12, it pulls me so hard that I loose my edge. So I have a few questions: 1) Do you go a little bit downwind before sending the kite or do you keep your edge ? 2) Before launching, do you try to go further upwind (to increase tension) or do you just keep the same edge ? 3) Before launching, do you send the kite past 12 or do you pull the bar just at 12 ? Thank you very much !
Hello Baptiste, good questions: 1 & 2) When boosting higher, you are riding so quickly that you can no longer change course drastically in the last few meters - like you do with a pop or unhooked jump. Way before the jump, you do have to build speed - at that point you power the kite and turn the board crosswind, maybe you can even turn 10 or 20 degrees downwind to accelerate quickly. This is way before the jump, however, when you're shifting from cruising speed to launching speed. Once you have more speed, you then focus on keeping that speed with bar pressure, while also increasing the pressure in your edge. As you edge harder you will be moving roughly crosswind. Then as you send the kite up, you try to edge as possible. If you're lucky you may turn slightly upwind at this point, helping to increase the kite's apparent wind and line tension. It won't be a huge upwind angle, however, with the amount of speed that you should have. 3) I pull in as the kite crosses 12. Then as you launch the kite is passing across 12, giving a bit of a pendulum effect. You definitely don't want to pull in the bar before the kite hits 12, as this will give a longer and lower jump.
how many hours of kitesurfing lessons starting as a beginner do I need to do a high jump (say 5 + meters) with low chance of needing rescued? what baout 10 meters? I don't care about landing nicely so long as I don't need to be rescued by someone else, I just want to experience jumping high using a kite. Thank you very much to whomever answers.
Wonderful helpful video. One question. I’m getting good height now, but I’m jumping straight up, coming straight down, and not getting any distance downwind. I noticed that on your medium and bigger jumps you not only jump high but you also jump much further downwind than I do. It almost looks like you’re letting the kite carry you downwind. What’s the secret?
sheeting out the bar allows the kite to snap upwind, so that when you steer it up it is slightly more above your head, giving you more lift. you can see the effect if you are just cruising upwind and you sheet the bar out, the kite will lurch upwind.
@@Vlox47 I understand the physics behind sheeting out, what I am asking about is the thing he did where he sheeted IN quickly just before sheeting out again, and in again finally for the jump
@@ASGuitarPlayer I was wondering the same thing. He sheets in and out very quickly, before sheeting in again at the point of lift off. The same action occurs through the video. Did you ever find an answer?
Should I be going upwind the whole time while building speed before the jump? Or should I be going cross-wind (or even slightly downwind) while building speed and turn upwind right before the jump?
Love your videos. Just a question as I'm having difficulty. I'm starting to jump between 2 and 5m and I find that I'm popping really hard but the higher I go, the more I rotate and my back ends up facing the direction I'm travelling. I'm not sure what to focus on as it seems to happen quite regularly even if I change my pop. Am I doing something strange with the kite perhaps? I get to the point where if I go to dive the kite for landing, I just land on my back or side...any suggestions or advise is appreciated :D
Hi there thanks for the helpful videos. I'm struggling I little bit holding my edge when I send the kite back to 12, I have to mention I'm riding a 145x42 at 77kilos (my first board). Some people have mentioned I should go for a smaller one to help keeping a better edge and jump higher, what do you think about this? Any suggestions?
Lately, when riding in overpowered conditions, I start rotating during the jump. A slow, late fron-roll movement. I have tried different things, but it always comes back in overpowered conditions. In normal conditions I don't have this. It is only when going out in strong winds (+30 knots) and when aiming for maximum height. Any suggestions?
Kite-surf college... Have this issue pretty often as well, slow uncontrollable front rotation. Tried bringing legs up in front during the launch, tried "looking over the shoulder" in the direction you want to go... still no luck.
Try rotating your Board in Circles below you. If you Look at the Board below you and rotate the Board with your clockwise you induce a frontroll like Rotation. If you want to prevent that rotate conterclockwise. If you want a more in depth Physics explenation I am happy to Do so. If you Look for cats landing on UA-cam you will find the Same effect.
Hello Niel. I could be wrong, but what you describe sounds a lot like the technique for unhooked popping. Not the technique for a sent jump (which is a jump where the kite is sent up). Pro kiters can pop very high even without steering the kite up. It helps to have flat water, and to be an amazing athlete of course. Whereas if you watch the pro kiters at KOTA (which is a competition using sent jumps) then you won't see much flattening of the board.
very technical subject and pretty hard to explain on a video so thumbs up for that, you did very well where many people failed. I don't agree 100% (let's say 90% ;) ) but still, it's a pretty good video. I guess I wouldn't have chosen a rebel for this topic as I find the piloting timing a bit different than most kites when it comes to jumping. Good job anyway!
@@georgewhtelse3516 I George (I'll answer in english, it's much more appropriate). I will eventually get to this topic but i'm taking my time ;) Anyway, the best tip is already given here, work on your heli-loops and in moderate wind. Such training will make you feel (even unconsciously) what the sweet spot is. see you sometimes on the water ;)
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I watched a lot of tutorial videos on Kitesurfing and hands down yours are just the absolute best! Your calm voice and the way you carefully explain everything is great. Camerawork and editing (like showing the bar movement) and the general structure of every video is awesome too. You are a really good teacher - thank you so much!
Fantastic video. You are addressing all the issues kiters encounter. Thanks for posting
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One key thats left out but you can see it is when steering the kite to 12 you need to sheet out on the bar all the way to prevent being pulled off your edge and letting the kite speed up. I had to learn that part myself, i could figure out why i was getting ripped down wind as soon as I tried to jump and why the kite was slow to get to 12. Sheeting out on the bar as you send it to 12 is a very important part that thyere assuming you know.
At the moment of edging the board, just after sending the kite to 12 for the jump, simultaneously bring your bar all the way out. this will help getting a good edge and also give you a good pull range to take off, great vid Alex!
Beautifully clear explanation!!! I’ve been trying to figure it out by my own, hopefully I’ve found this one 😅. Big thank you
Thank you for such a simple, detailed and informative video on how to jump higher. I cannot seem to get over 9m but I know exactly, at last, what I've been doing wrong. I've watched numerous videos but none of them, in my opinion, were as clear and to the point. Excellent Advice.
Thanks. I am exactly trying to get higher and some of your tips will help me a lot. The way you explain things is brilliant. Bravo.
really nice tutorial. I've been jumping higher but my landings are definitely not smooth yet. I've been trying to look up the heliloops and after watching I am definitely trying it next session, as long as the wind is not too strong obviously. last sessions was like 22-30 with 9m so didn't want to risk it
One of the most userful kite tutorials i've ever seen. Thanks!!!!
Finally a good detail video about the jump and the heli loop! Im getting close to 10m but front stall often on landing. Cant wait to practise your heli loop tips thnx so much!!!
If your gonna heli loop as I like to do on bigger jumps couple things to note to save pain. Make sure you have started to descend and kite is near 12 or you will kite loop or mega loop and smash your self out. Ride a kite that turns good and of a size that you can ride without needing to depower it. The more you have to trim or depower it the slower and bigger the heli loop will be. To commit to the loop sometimes I have found it best to almost hang on bar with one hand. Sometimes you thinking your cranking it with two hands and your not. Pulling the bar almost 90 degrees is safer than not pulling enough. In my opinion
Wtf I don’t understand these suicidal people😂 my jump record is 6m but I already mastered heli-loops and landings
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Awesome video! Excellent explanation, makes good sense.
This is going to help me a lot. I started kitesurfing last December 2018 and started to work on jumping this June through present.
To many occasions my kite would front stall after trying for a big jump and just leaving the kite at 12, the kite would front stall then invert and then crash. I would have to take it back to the beach to fix the mess.
Thank you for this video!! Appreciated!
What an excellent tutorial! I knew all of this already but from now on, this will be my go-to video if someone asks me how to jump better!
Great video...at last somebody really took the time and effort to put it all together....thanks guys from Argentina, I will try to beat my 7 meters limit with this info
Yesterday I fell so many times trying to land correctly but now I know what I was doing wrong! Thank youuu
Howd it go? Did you learn on your own?
@@psychoticdaizyproductions569 Hey! I'm sorry for the late reply hahah, Yes I've learnt it by my own! Some kite mates gave litte advices but, in general, I had to learn it the hard way and crash hundred times! But I don't regret even a single crash cause thanks to that, now I'm enjoying the view from the clouds!!
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best jumping video ever made
Simply the best video explanation. Minimum, pertinent, commentary. Great supporting graphics.
😎👍 outstanding. Added to Top Kiteboarding Tutorials.
I had to learn this stuff by myself. Great to see someone taking about Heli loops. My favourite landing procedure 🙃
Wonderful helpful video. I’ve watched it before, but am finally getting to the point where I understand it better. I don’t know how high I’m jumping, but it’s high enough that landing incorrectly is hard on my knees and back. I am going to try turning my kite back and then forward thru the sweet spot to see if that solves my problems. Thanks very much.
I wondering how you landing went.?
Tip that I learned: just steer late and hard forward and landings are much smoother!
You make a fabulous job with your tutorials, they are the best as i can see on the net.
Thank you very much !!!
Unlike some videos made by a well known Greek-Russian, this video explains it very well. The Heli-loop is certainly a trick I didn't know, which comes to good effect; and without too much emphasis on the load-and-pop, which a lot of guys focus too much on and still loose height.
Really liked this tutorial. Right in my wheelhouse. Now, I just need to get to some warmer weather and work on these tips.
You don’t need warm weather. You need a thicker wetsuit 😃
2 minutes & 57 seconds the secret sauce 😍 great tutorial
Excellent video! Thanks a lot for finally making that jumping higher video real! Great & very helpful tips and explanations - looking forward to try it in my next sessions hopefully soon🏄🏽♂️🛸
Another excellent instructional video. Best production bar none. Bravo mate!
Best video explanation on higher jumping !
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Very useful, with answers even kite instructors couldn't give me!🤙🏼
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Thanks for an excellent video. I tried my first heliloop a few weeks ago. I think I started a kite loop instead by accident and abborted early as I got pulled really hard which scared me. Would this be due to initiating the heliloop too early or steering in the wrong direction into the wind window? I'm pretty sure I steered with my front hand, though it all happened very quickly and it shocked me enough to not try again until I understand the theory more (BTW in hindsight it wasn't the best conditions for practicing as while the water was flat it was 30-40 knots - was riding a 7 meter Evo).
I love your videos! Thank you so much again for the great explanation!
Great video! Just what I need for my big jump landing plateau🤙
Very good and detailed video! Thanks!
Can't wait for my first session in 2020...
?how did it go
Great video concentrating on flying the kite with a jump. Thank you !
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Thanks for the video. I am a new kite and your videos are amazing!!
Very helpful! Thanks for posting - it really helped me understand what was happening during my jumps and why.
One critical part of the instruction that's missing (although in the video the guy does it) is to pus the bar out fully as kite approaches 12 on the takeoff. Otherwise the kite is half sheeted already when at 12 leaving much less to pull! You want a fully loaded kite at 12 to get those big jump. I was struggling and only learned this from an instructor recently.
This is an important missing detail. The instructions (7:22) say to pull in the bar as much as you can handle, and then when the kite hits twelve pull in the bar, but there's no mention of when in-between the bar is (necessarily) pushed out - when is the best time for that?
You're videos are inspirational. I'm always desperate to get out on the water after watching one.
I have a possibly controversial question about jumping higher. What these guys are doing are obviously working and im sure they are higher on the woo board than me haha! However, in the video between 4.55 and 5.15 you see the dude do two big jumps. The technique looks just how I'd intend to do except as he redirects the kite hard for take off he pushes the bar away to full deepower position.
I've found if you do this too much then you can lose tension in the lines and therefore get lower jumps. In my experience it's best to keep as much tension in the lines until take off, which would mean keeping the bar pulled in enough even just before take off.
I can see 2 situations where you might need the bar at full depower.
1. If you are fully lit and even with bar at full depower you still have tensioned lines
2. Maybe what this guy is doing, which is he's redirecting the kite so fast that he has to push the bar away to not be ripped from his edge and he's talented enough to keep the line tension during this quick movement. I can also see how pushing bar away will help kite climb to 12 quicker to jump higher.
Just think it's important for the average 5 to 10m height jumper to realise that keeping that bar in a bit even as you redirect can be helpful. Any sudden changes in line tension could lose you power just before takeover. Interested to hear your thoughts
Hey there, i am not a pro but i think it is because is still quite low for the part of speeding yourself up and he wants the kite to get up to 12 as quick as possible so he can jump, which the kite does quicker if the bar is pushed away. Otherwise he´d initiate the jump when the kite is too low and get more horizontal pull instead of upwards. Does that make sense? Did this answer your question? Hope it did. Have fun!
Hey man your videos are always top notch and class. I have a problem and I'm not sure the issue. I have not problem boosting high but when landing I struggle to orientate the board down wind and end up getting yanked forward. Do you have any advice? Thanks
thats the video i was wating so long for
Me too!
The same for me .👍👍
Me too 😊
Waiting for long time for this video
Good job
Great techincal video.... ive been kitesurfing 12 yrs jumping for most of that " stomp down hard !?" ..i feel is incorrect edge like hell as fast as possible . Keep on edging while steering kite and pulling in .. 😁 and scream. As hight will be high .
This is perfect, just what i needed, very well explained ,cheers!
Glad it helped!
Great video! Thx!
Just made my first jumps! Omg it’s crazy 😜
Thanks for good video doing It now in Kenya at jacaranda beach 2022 begginer
07:48 this is essential - with higher jumps there is more risk in injury by losing orientation and accidentally diving your kite, while you are airborne. I just lost a Gopro two days ago as the impact on the surface ripped it off my helmet.
Great video ! Thank you !
Thank you for this tutorial! I've got 2 observations though: 1) In almost every jumping tutorial on youtube the rider pushes the bar before jumping but it is never mentioned. You can see it in this video at about 4:56, 5:10, 5:19, 7:37. Won't you loose tension in the lines doing so? 2) Something else which is never mentioned is right tack to ride before jumping. Should it be upwind or a bit less than upwind?
Good questions Philip. 1) When you're going for a boost, you're steering the kite up really rapidly and it will start pulling early, way before it nears 12, and that can easily drag you off your edge prematurely and spoil the entire jump. To stop yourself getting dragged off your edge as the kite climbs, you often need to sheet out. 2) It's pretty close to crosswind as you build speed and maybe 15 degress upwind of crosswind at the moment of launch, I'd guess. However, I don't really think about the exact angles while boosting. I'm usually preoccupied with keeping lots of speed at first (I instinctively aim more crosswind to build speed), then I'm focused on keeping contact with the water, and edging as much as I can at the final moments (which probably turns me slightly upwind of crosswind).
@@kitesurfcollege Thank you so much for this clear explanation!!
@@kitesurfcollege Mint! Excellent work.
Thank you! Well done!
Right before takeoff I tend to lose speed quite a lot since I edge so hard.. This seems to be a problem because I don’t get as high as I probably could. Do you have a solution to this issue? Maybe I edge for “too long” and lose my momentum? Or maybe I edge with too much effort which results in a low speed? Maybe you are familiar with this and can help me out. I would appreciate!!
Hello Tim, it's difficult to say without seeing for myself. There are a few possibilities. Possibly your kite is taking too long to climb which is allowing you time to slow down. You shouldn't have any time to slow down if your kite climbs as quickly as it can. Is your kite shooting up quickly or sluggishly? Alternatively, it's possible you're aiming too far upwind with the board and over edging. Does it feel like your board is skidding or skipping?
@@kitesurfcollege I think I have the same problem that I'm trying to edge as much as I can to build line tension but it's then hard to do that last carve upwind when your board is already under the tension
Amazing Video, Any tips to learn to jump with your least favourite foot forward?
About being able to hold more power.. you state the opposite of what this guy Anton states in his Learning to Fly videos on kite jumps. He says that you should apply more force on your front foot since this prevents your board from slipping in the water. He also states that you should lean back more
really a great tuto, thanks!!
Thanks! Very good video! 👌👍👏🇧🇷
I love hights, so just focused on getting higher, but I never learned how to "land" so to day in 30+knots I flew the highest and landed soo hard, that I'm here to see how to actually land xd
landings are overrated, f**k it! just go higher :P
Awesome video. Very clear advice!
Hello Lila and thank you. How's your kiting coming along?
@@kitesurfcollege Hey Alex, I braved 4+m waves in SA before lockdown, and now have been working toward jumping w/ a loop. Thanks to these videos, I'm becoming more consistent w/ jumps and loops separately, and will soon try to put them together! :) We all appreciate the time and effort you've put into this excellent channel!
Nice tips on landing, cheers
Another great video
Awesome video
Everyone always talks about jumping "when the kite reaches 12". I am very inconsistent in my jumps over 3m and one thing I think I am hung up on is: what angle should the kite be at - that is the angle from an imaginary line vertially upwards from the kiter's head, to the lines to the kite (not left or right)? in other words: how deep in the window. I notice that the faster I steer the kite, the deeper the kite goes back into the window on its way to 12 - and edging to counter this I guess forces the kite to fly faster towards the edge of the window (0 degrees to vertical line) - but if you are waiting for the kite to almost get above your head, it loses a lot of power. On the other hand - too early and you just get cranked downwind with sub-optimal lift. So it seems to me the optimal time to edge/pop and pull in the bar for the yank is somewhere in-between, could you explain this process?
Hi, it's important to note that 12 does not mean overhead. If you draw a line starting directly overhead to directly downwind, that line is 12. It is not one place. It is the division between the left and right of the wind window. When the kite hits that line you pull in the bar and take off. Exactly which part of that line the kite hits will depend on you steering when you send the kite up. Slower steering will mean the kite is closer to over head (a higher angle on the 12 line) and you get less force and a lower jump. Firmer steering will mean the kite is deeper in the window when it hits 12 (a slightly lower angle on the 12 line), and you will get ripped off the water more violently. In both cases the time to launch is as the kite hits 12 approximately. Pulling the bar in before it hits 12 means a longer lower jump and provides less vertical component of the kite's force. Pulling the bar in after it crosses 12 sheds a lot of speed and again provides less vertical component of the kite's force. Good luck working on your timing.
@@kitesurfcollege thanks so much for the quick reply! your videos are awesome!
Could you explain more about how to avoid rotation during jumps?
Bring your board up is the simple answer. Look where you want to go. Notice your shoulders, jump both ways and see how your body and shoulders are different. Practice using your back hand for grabs, this also stablises your body during the jump.
@@mrmonkeboy I used to agree with this method until I saw learning to fly kiteboarding. If you jump with a straight body as gr does in this video it will prevent you from rotating. As soon as you lift you legs up you turn into a ball that will rotate easier. Think about the last backroll you did? If you leave your body straight it will be slow backroll. Tuck your legs right up and you can get your first double backroll 👍
Can you safely heliloop a larger kite like a 12m Rebel ?
Great job
Nice video as usual. I m loosing edge while kite goes up to 12. Where do i need to be extra carefull? 10x
Tris Is a excelente video instruccion
This was very helpful. What are your thoughts about the pre-jump hop that many big air kiters are doing now?
Hi Alec. I wouldn't even consider it. If you look at the highest jump recorded without a wave, which was about 33m, that guy kept his edge continuously and didn't lift the board out. I'd say for pro kiters it's 50/50 whether it helps or hinders. It's most likely to do with board shape. High rocker boards create far more drag at speed, so lifting a high rocker board may help you reach a slightly higher speed as the kite climbs. But with a lower rocker, faster board, lifting the board will probably slow you down. However, for an intermediate or even advanced kiter, incorporating this extra detail of lifting the board, will probably mean they are concentrating less on far more important details like speed and edge pressure. So for almost all kiters trying to lift out the board during the build up will give poorer results.
I believe if you don"t pop you are stuck to 5-7m. You need to pop right before the lift if you want to optimise the height of your jumps.
Thank you for this video and your troubleshooting about landing. You emphasize a lot on keeping the edge while going faster or sending the kite faster to 12. What about edging hard towards the wind to improve jump height?
Marc Poitout I guess edging hard towards the wind will not really help you jump higher, because the most important thing about jumping high is the line pressure. The higher this pressure is the more brutal the kite will send you upwards, by edging towards the kite there won‘t be much line tension and much of the power the kite creates will not reach the rider!
Hi Freddy,
Thank you for your reply.
When the kite goes to 12, it is moving in one direction. When you edge hard, your body is going to the opposite direction and therefore the anchor point for your front line as well. Therefore you are increasing the front line tension when you edge hard just before taking off.
Amazing, thanks guys!
Thank for this info! Any tips for jumping in alot of chop?
Hi Rudi. Firstly, lots of practice is the key to choppy conditions - since you need to control the kite and board, while also watching (and reacting to) the water's contours. Also, it's important to plan where you will take off - don't jump where the water is the most choppy. If you try to build speed and take off where there are a few bumps close together you will loose your edge. You need to look for a flatter section, then quickly build speed and take off in that section. You also need your legs to act like suspension, contracting over peaks and extending in troughs - so that you don't loose contact. Good luck, Alex.
Hello I like your videos they are awesome man!!
I have a doubt regarding bar tension, some people say once you get bar tension, you don't loose it.
In your video I see the rider creates tension, but one moment before it jumps, he extends the bar up and after he pulls.
So my question is, which is the best technique to create tension, and never loosing it?
Or create tension and one moment before jumping takeout the bar and then pull it?
Thank you for your videos, I´ve learned so much in them!!
Gracias!!
Great video. I noticed when you heli looped it toward 12, the end of the loop had the kite facing the wrong way to "ride out" - what do you do to avoid that? I think I have enough bravery to heli loop towards 12, but it doesn't seem like it fixes the issue of stopping when you hit the water. The loop the other way seemed better for riding out, since the kite was pointed correctly to ride out at the end of the loop.
Nice tips thanks!
That's awesome! When edging before the jump I often hit the water with my bum and legs as I lean back (and lose all and edge speed). I see at 6:20 you almost touch the water but... you don't. Should I try to edge more with the upper body, less with the lower body?
How about letting the bar out at the apex of the jump and then pulling back in as you start coming down?
@kitesurf College we can see you pulling on the bar (and releasing) quickly at least twoce before the final pop and pull and take off. This is not thr 1st time and the only video i see of advanced riders doing those quick pre jump yanks on the bar. has it got anything to do with the preload pop, that is obviously not in the scope of this vid, or is it something else?
Thank you for this very interesting video. I am very concerned by this topic as I'm stucked at 5-6 meter jump. I try to keep maximum tension in the lines but when sending the kite to 12, it pulls me so hard that I loose my edge.
So I have a few questions:
1) Do you go a little bit downwind before sending the kite or do you keep your edge ?
2) Before launching, do you try to go further upwind (to increase tension) or do you just keep the same edge ?
3) Before launching, do you send the kite past 12 or do you pull the bar just at 12 ?
Thank you very much !
Hello Baptiste, good questions:
1 & 2) When boosting higher, you are riding so quickly that you can no longer change course drastically in the last few meters - like you do with a pop or unhooked jump. Way before the jump, you do have to build speed - at that point you power the kite and turn the board crosswind, maybe you can even turn 10 or 20 degrees downwind to accelerate quickly. This is way before the jump, however, when you're shifting from cruising speed to launching speed. Once you have more speed, you then focus on keeping that speed with bar pressure, while also increasing the pressure in your edge. As you edge harder you will be moving roughly crosswind. Then as you send the kite up, you try to edge as possible. If you're lucky you may turn slightly upwind at this point, helping to increase the kite's apparent wind and line tension. It won't be a huge upwind angle, however, with the amount of speed that you should have.
3) I pull in as the kite crosses 12. Then as you launch the kite is passing across 12, giving a bit of a pendulum effect. You definitely don't want to pull in the bar before the kite hits 12, as this will give a longer and lower jump.
@@kitesurfcollege Thank you so much for your answer. I will definitely try that next time !
Great video. What minimum height do you recommend adding a heli-loop for a softer landing?
8m
Great Great Great! Thank youuuu!!!
how many hours of kitesurfing lessons starting as a beginner do I need to do a high jump (say 5 + meters) with low chance of needing rescued? what baout 10 meters? I don't care about landing nicely so long as I don't need to be rescued by someone else, I just want to experience jumping high using a kite. Thank you very much to whomever answers.
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Wonderful helpful video. One question. I’m getting good height now, but I’m jumping straight up, coming straight down, and not getting any distance downwind. I noticed that on your medium and bigger jumps you not only jump high but you also jump much further downwind than I do. It almost looks like you’re letting the kite carry you downwind. What’s the secret?
well done
8:45 what is that double sheeting-in right before the jump? Is it non-intentional or purposeful?
Very good point. I think I do that sometimes too. It feels like a load of power in to the bar
sheeting out the bar allows the kite to snap upwind, so that when you steer it up it is slightly more above your head, giving you more lift. you can see the effect if you are just cruising upwind and you sheet the bar out, the kite will lurch upwind.
@@Vlox47 I understand the physics behind sheeting out, what I am asking about is the thing he did where he sheeted IN quickly just before sheeting out again, and in again finally for the jump
@@ASGuitarPlayer I was wondering the same thing. He sheets in and out very quickly, before sheeting in again at the point of lift off. The same action occurs through the video. Did you ever find an answer?
@@sccordery5725 Nope. No clue still :)
Should I be going upwind the whole time while building speed before the jump? Or should I be going cross-wind (or even slightly downwind) while building speed and turn upwind right before the jump?
Great video as always! What size kite is he using in this video?
Totally awesome!
What size kite were you using in the 18-22 knots
Love your videos. Just a question as I'm having difficulty. I'm starting to jump between 2 and 5m and I find that I'm popping really hard but the higher I go, the more I rotate and my back ends up facing the direction I'm travelling. I'm not sure what to focus on as it seems to happen quite regularly even if I change my pop. Am I doing something strange with the kite perhaps? I get to the point where if I go to dive the kite for landing, I just land on my back or side...any suggestions or advise is appreciated :D
Hi there thanks for the helpful videos. I'm struggling I little bit holding my edge when I send the kite back to 12, I have to mention I'm riding a 145x42 at 77kilos (my first board). Some people have mentioned I should go for a smaller one to help keeping a better edge and jump higher, what do you think about this? Any suggestions?
and did it help?
Lately, when riding in overpowered conditions, I start rotating during the jump. A slow, late fron-roll movement. I have tried different things, but it always comes back in overpowered conditions.
In normal conditions I don't have this. It is only when going out in strong winds (+30 knots) and when aiming for maximum height.
Any suggestions?
Kite-surf college... Have this issue pretty often as well, slow uncontrollable front rotation. Tried bringing legs up in front during the launch, tried "looking over the shoulder" in the direction you want to go... still no luck.
Try rotating your Board in Circles below you. If you Look at the Board below you and rotate the Board with your clockwise you induce a frontroll like Rotation. If you want to prevent that rotate conterclockwise. If you want a more in depth Physics explenation I am happy to Do so. If you Look for cats landing on UA-cam you will find the Same effect.
Some pros flatten their board right before they jump, why? Liam Whaley always does this
Hello Niel. I could be wrong, but what you describe sounds a lot like the technique for unhooked popping. Not the technique for a sent jump (which is a jump where the kite is sent up). Pro kiters can pop very high even without steering the kite up. It helps to have flat water, and to be an amazing athlete of course. Whereas if you watch the pro kiters at KOTA (which is a competition using sent jumps) then you won't see much flattening of the board.
Nice one!
very technical subject and pretty hard to explain on a video so thumbs up for that, you did very well where many people failed. I don't agree 100% (let's say 90% ;) ) but still, it's a pretty good video. I guess I wouldn't have chosen a rebel for this topic as I find the piloting timing a bit different than most kites when it comes to jumping. Good job anyway!
Salut Phillipe, tu peux nous faire la même avec ton point de vue ? On trouve très peu de vidéo abordant cette technique.👍
@@georgewhtelse3516 I George (I'll answer in english, it's much more appropriate). I will eventually get to this topic but i'm taking my time ;) Anyway, the best tip is already given here, work on your heli-loops and in moderate wind. Such training will make you feel (even unconsciously) what the sweet spot is. see you sometimes on the water ;)
Very nice!
Great. Thank you.