How to Jump BIGGER Part I
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- This week I am changing the pace up up from the Strapless Kitesurfing videos to some standard kiteboarding on a twin tip. I've been riding for 20 years and between all the disciplines, (now even including winging) it is still very hard to beat a good full power session just boosting as big as possible and doing loops. Boosting is the roots of kiting and even after decades of riding it is impossible to to give up these sessions. Hatteras is a great spot for sessions like this especially in the spring and early summer season, so I wanted to share some tips on what I thought really helps you not just jump but to jump even higher and higher!
Part II coming next week going even deeper into his same topic!
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the shots where you can clearly see rider AND kite are by far the most helpful.
I agree on most of your tips/explanations. But some of them are not correctly. A good pre-load pop is to settle the kite more at the edge of the windwindow and not deeper into the windwindow, a preload pop to jump high is different to a preload pop for a freestyle trick. By putting the kite more forward in the wind window you will go farther, not higher. But i agree, it does help to jump those landgaps :D Second of all, by steering the kite really fast you disrupt the airflow over the kite. You need to steer it fast, but consistent so you don't disrupt the airflow. Otherwise it will be deeper in the windwindow and you will lose momentum. As result you will go more forward instead of going high. The rest is completely true! Props for the video mate!
Pre-load means releasing some tension before final push, before final edging and turning board upwind. When you do it kite will slow down slightly but your speed not that much so kite will move backwards in relation to you. So it will move deeper in the wind window just like Evan explained. This position gives kite more room to surge forward and kiter can push harder against the kite which is deeper in the WW.
Another reason for pre-load is pure physiological, releasing muscle tension before final push gives you considerable advantage. This technique is used practically in all sports which include jumping. Sometimes if vertical jump height of an athlete is measured it can be done with and without pre-load and then it is possible to make conclusions of his ability. My results were something like 65cm with pre-load and 45cm without.
Technique is same for unhooked freestyle and boosting unlike you claim. Also your claims for kite location effect to jump height/distance are hazy as well is "distrupting airflow over kite" by steering "kite really fast". If you are riding fast and powered enough for decent jump you can't steer kite too hard. After giving hard back hand you must push IMMEDIATELY as much upwind as you can. The more speed and power you can handle and more aggressively you can do this the higher you can jump, assuming there is enough power available.
I've watched this several more times (in slow-mo) and I really am getting a lot from the videos with the camera behind you and the drone shots. It's been helpful to see where the kite position is, when and how you redirect or heli loop it, and your sheeting in-and-out... a lot of the things that you probably do as 2nd nature, but it really gives me a sense of what you're doing and why. Fantastic video!! 🤙🏼
Excellent tips, I am working these tips one at a time until it becomes second nature.
Especially releasing the board a bit before I edge hard, never new the kite will go a bit deeper in that wind-window.
Oh yeah looking forward to the next video of loops !
yes, more is on the way!
Nice video. It was good to meet you today. It's Bob on Reedin.
Great video, it really helped me think over some of the mistakes I make
Best video I've ever seen on jumping. Entertaining too with the over-land jumps. Pretty rad.
Gracias , gran trabajo!!!!
Well done! Thank you.
Excellent video...just the way you explain everything is extremely Clear and detailed which helps Us rookies haha...thanks champ
Awesome video Evan 🤙💢💯💯
So much value in this vid… really helpful to here nuanced tips from a pro rider… thank you!
Thanks, glad you found some helpful info in here!
These Gaps you Guys are jumping are absolutely insane! Respect!
Our conservationists here in Germany would kill us for rinding and landing into the reed ^^
Realy good Tutorial on what counts on boosting. I think the most challenging part is, to keep the edge and still doing a proper pop while having extreme power on that harness that wants to force you in the opposite direction.
Great vid and alot of simple tips that really help put things in perspective. I'm an Ok jumper but am trying to improve. After looking at footage I noticed that I failed to create a big splash on take off as you do here and many of the pros do (much harder than it looks btw). This is all about creating that line tension and find the sweet spot between sending the kite and edging. I'm still working on this...which is probably why I'm still addicted to kiting after years.
The more power you can load up = bigger spray on take off for sure. You can also edge too hard and stall either yourself of your kite (especially if you are a little underpowered). Glad to hear there were some good tips hidden in here for you!
Great explanation 👌
Fantastic video man! Keep 'em coming 🤙🏼
Thank you! I only have 1 more for now so will need to get back to work again soon!
Hi Evan. What direction (in relation to wind) are you sailing, just before loading the lines and pop. A little upwind? Cross wind? or a litte off wind?
Super helpful video!! Thanx!
Thank you!
Sick video…. Something I’ve been thinkin about for a while. Need to work on that preload pop/ pop for sure. Looking forward to part two and explain hell loops 💪🏻
Thanks! Yup, I will talk a bit about heli loops in the next one for sure!
Thanks Evan! There is a lot of good information here and in your other recent videos. Since watching, my jumps have been higher and more consistent. Lately I had found that my jumps were not improving and some things I tried were wrong, and led to developing bad habits. This video helped clarify the proper way to jump, and my last 2 sessions were much better.
Great to hear! Thanks so much for sharing!
Great video! I seem to be stuck at 5m jumps and want to progress higher. I do believe it’s down to my technique, as I went on a lighter day with my 9m to focus on timing, load, sending the kite. I still managed to hit 5m. Getting the sweet spot with where the kite is in the window before sending is a great tip, I possibly have it too low on strong days as I feel it will send the kite more. Instead the timing goes , as I’m concentrating more on trying to hold the edge. Ending up with a few jumps flying way down wind instead of boosting
Thanks for this great video and your explanations are really on point. This is a fine balance to find.
However, I always found difficult to explain why the quick release of the edge before the pop helps. I understand your explanation about the slight gain in speed but regarding the position of the kite, I'd think that, without holding an edge, the rider would drift under the kite slightly, positioning the kite less deep in the wind window, contrary to what you mention.
Practically, I also feel that this quick release of the edge is beneficial but I attributed it to the fact that, since the kite is positioned more at the edge of the wind window, it has less forward (as in perpendicular to direction of travel) pull and it makes it easier to edge while redirecting the kite.
I'd be curious to hear your feedback on this.
Cheers from Switzerland!
Interesting video. A few bits I hadn't heard talked about before. What would be interesting would be a pro riders view on on the typical heights you might jump (e.g. 20knots on a 12m is 8-10m) as attempting to judge against woo records is difficult as the conditions they are set in are often a world away from the conditions you might see on your own beach. Would also be interesting to see how waves and chop impact your pre-takeoff technique. Will be looking out to see the next episode. I'm hoping to see a bit on correcting rotation in the air and body position in the air.
Thanks, I tired to just give my 2 cents on the topic honestly without really outlining or thinking what I was going to say before we shot it so there are things I missed that I wish I mentioned. Conditions play a huge role for sure hopefully some of what I said can be applied regardless of the water surface etc but for sure to adds a little bit more of a variable but I think that person that can jump best in flat water will also come out of time in chop, waves etc since their best base technique can be applied pretty much the same in other conditions, the timing just gets a bit tricker. I think when you get down into that lighter wind you mentioned you will see lighter riders gaining an even bigger advantage. For sure most Woo records are mostly off a wave or some sort of kicker and usually in denser air and strong wind like Cape Town... gusty conditions can help too sometimes (as long as it is not too gusty) but if you can manage to hit that gust soon as you release your edge but not before so you don't loose control then those will be the hugest jumps for sure. Just look at some of the crazy ones that come out of Tarifa in a Levante (their offshore trade direction)
very good video. thanks and congrats!
Thank you!
Never liked a video before. Great tips and response. Keep it up.
I appreciate that, thank you!
Awesome video man! i got a few hints i never heard of in other videos :) i'm not sure about the part when you say that full power on the trim is always better. in my understanding the "power -depower" is actually a trim setting for the range of the angle of attach of the kite, it is possible that having it all powered might close too much the angle of attack and result in a sub optimal power deliver. but also makes sense to have that "extra" punch just on the take off, also considering that you later say that you are not fully sheeted in when you are airborne, which would compensate for any over trimming of the kite.
nice one !
Thanks!
great vid - appreciate the insights! - how do you capture the footage from the back of you? Assuming some kind of attachment to your harness?
Hi there
What’s the cabrinha twin tip are you using Evan ? Very flexible and high rocker . Thank you great videos and amazing tips !!!
Like your video mate, what is the best kite to control and best for jumping?!😊
Nice video. Have top work on that half a second of steering the kite hard and edge at the same time. Other vids make it look like more time in between steering and popping
Veri detailed, god description. Maybee it could be nice with a slow mo pop/ kite visualisation on were the kite is in relation to load and pop..
Great content. Could you explain how to control rotations above ? Since I pull the bar I'm getting rotated, how to control it ? Many Thanks
Nice video… thanks
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
nice Bro, something about heliloops would be cool
Hi, very good explanations, thanks heaps ! I am struggling in the 8 to 10 metres mark and I don't know how I will go higher....any tips ? Thanks à lot, enjoy !
Hi Evan.great video.can u do one specific video on landing?I jump high(also more then 10mt), but I crash 90% of my landings.People at the beach told me I dont put my board in the right direction.can u do a video where u explain everything especially direction of the board, before touch down.ty
Thank you! I think in my next video I might touch on this a little but more, but most of the time what I see people do wrong is land edging too much. If you are crashing because you loose control but your kite flying is correct or at least pretty close to it make sure you are landing pointing down wind then slowly reset your edge. If you are skipping out on your head side edge when landing you are most likely not pointing down wind enough.
ˋJust saw the vid right now.I have the exact same problem. 90% I do not know how to Land downwind …. I do not get my body in thevright position.
Sorry for this late question.
Great video... another 1 on what to do with the kite and when (especially when jump has commenced and in the air). I occasionally get a heli loop right or a down loop right on landing, but am not quite sure how I did it, or what timing allowed this. Do u let the kite drift upwind before u pull a heli loop, or do u pull this when out to 1 side and still in front or....feedback here would b great. Thx though for lots of goo.d content....
Thank you! Next video I will talk a bit about heli loops for sure!
@@evannetsch can't wait... and have u got a video on how to do turns and drop ins on waves and what to do with the kite?
Great content ! That will help.
I still have a question about timing. When do pull in the bar: just before leaving the water or just after ?
I think Evan did a great job in the video explaining the important element of jumping it is the pop and load. I know I used to think too much about pulling the bar in. I worked first on my pop and load with a hard upwind carve and little bar pull. This helps with proper technique for an upwind jump. The bar pull is a feel thing after the pop load carve nice the kite to noon quickly then pull in the bar. Lots of practice my friend and when you feel it you will know !
Hope it helps! When to sheet in will vary a bit based on your jump, the kite you use etc, but in general you will have very poor kite steering while sheeted all the way out so you will need to sheet in as you start steering the kite back to jump, (essentially at the same time you load your board edge) so sheet in while on the water still. This does not need to be 100% sheeted in but enough to create a lot of lift and tension your back lines to make the kite more responsive.
@@evannetsch first of great video, thank you! We need more of these for sure as jumping small is easy but going higher requires a lot of things to go right and not many do videos on that.
I am also wondering about the timing of the bar. I ride a switchblade and noticed on a video I sheet in after I pop and with the kite slightly past 12. I identified this as the biggest issue I need to fix but might be wrong... any thoughts?
Cool video thanks. what is the best kite positioning to jump the highest. If I am jumping on the left side, do I jump when the kite reaches exactly 12 or when it passes it slightly or the other way around. Different people have different answers. some say just before 12 and the other say just after 12. What do you think is the ideal?
Hi Adel, I think different kites may have a little different sweet spot but I would say in general a bit behind 12. If you are very powered it may be harder to get the kite there so you might leave the water with the kite closer to 12 but that is okay and the kite can still keep traveling a bit once you are in the air. I would say don't worry where the kite is, don't look at it just feel for where you feel that maximum about of lift generated and put just as much thought into were you start with the kite to where it ends up, try a bit lower and higher etc and you will dial in that sweet spot!
A lot of great tips, the only part I never really seem to get right is the aggresive carving upwind part before a jump. That always leads to rotation issues for me. Either I rotate too far backwards into a unwanted backroll, or the kite yanks me back the other way and I get into a even more unwanted frontroll. The only way I can jump without rotation in the air is when I just hold my upwind edge well before I send the kite and then stomp hard with my back foot to pop of the water. But any sudden carve always leads to rotation. Any idea what concept i'm missing or doing wrong?
From your description I would think you just need more practice in "normal" jumping before you apply these tips and tricks to go higher. It's a perfectly normal stage you're going through, don't try and overdo it, because I suspect that is what you're doing. As your in-flight control increases you will be able to be more aggressive in the lift-off stage without losing control.
Hé dude, keep the bar in till landing or sheet out earlier?
A bit more on the Pre load pop please, do you just lift your feet or is it like a small pop, no video really explaining this small hop, just usually Saying to do a small hop. And would you start sending before the hop or at same time or not till you land on your edge again after you have done the Pre load pop
So for the small hop thing, I think a lot of people do this but not everyone. I don't really send the kite until after I reset that last edge. Hoping can help build power so maybe even if the wind is lighter I might hope 2-3-4 times and just wait until I feel it to send the kite just continuing to hop and re-set the edge until it feels good. The hop isn't really a jump just sort of an edge release, I guess I might sheet in just a little on the bar to create more power and lift (and sheeting in will help pull the kite back in the wind window) as I do this I really focus the most on just lifting my back heal a little bit, maybe the board doesn't even come all the way out of the water and that just happens as a side effect but just releasing the load before putting 100% effort into the loading the edge is the key.
@@evannetsch thank you for explaining your reasoning behind it and how you do it, Iv heard other explaining they lift the board out of the water on purpose so they can use gravity to dig the board deeper into the water so they have more area of the board resisting the pull of the kite whilst sending it,
When you pop/release the edge do you actively throw your body weight forward like it looks like many do when doing unhooked jumps, people usually say release the edge when taking off but don’t really explain what they mean by this,
Thank you for your great videos, looking forward to episode 1.
Really enjoyed your recent series on directional board, helped me a lot 🤙
Thanks Evan for the information, good stuff. I'm one of those guys that gets very very vertical jumps, very little horizontal travel, which I love because the landings are so soft. I primarily jump from flat water. I wouldn't attempt a land crossing like you guys. I like what you said about felling the power in your bar and how high up you like to feel the power. I know I'm going to get some boosts when I have about two inches of free pull on my bar, or if I need to depower just a tiny bit to get that couple of inches. Question for you though, why is it that almost all of the videos on the web talk about pretty much the same thing, but don't mention the effect of the right board or right kite for jumping big? Yes all boards and all kites can jump, but some boards are much harder to jump big because of the rocker, and some kites aren't designed for big air. Might be a topic for a later vid. Also, someone might want to do a vid on jumping in different wind conditions, steady wind, low wind, high wind, gusty wind, etc. Might also mention that when jumping in gusty wind or wind that is stronger higher up, that there is a very real possibility of getting what I call a double, or triple jump. Thanks again.
Hey Tim, Yes I could have mentioned the role of the board for sure but I guess I didn't want to distract too much from the technique that can be applied to any "normal" sized twin tip. The board could be a 10 minute topic of it's own (thanks for the idea) but would say generally a board that can hold a lot of power and control will jump the best. So pretty square outline, not too much rocker and fairly stiff for loading up hard. I also will ride a little smaller (135 Xcaliber) that my normal size when very powered to help control my edge.
@@evannetsch Thanks for the reply Evan! As I said, perhaps this is a good topic for another video about jumping big? I may be 67, but when i'm doing what i love, jumping while kiting, I'm a kid at heart! Keep the stoke.
Great video. Now when in the air, do you stay sheeted in the whole time or do you sheet out a smidge on the way down to open up the kite then sheet in again right before touching down?
Thank you! Yes, I'd say generally stay sheeted in (but not necessary so much that you are jammed up with the bar right against the chicken loop) unless the kite starts to get choked up a bit they maybe sheet out just a tiny bit. When looping or even doing small heli loops then there will be a lot more sheeting in and out while in the air to allow the kite to come back over your head it it end up father infront of you (lower in loops). But yes if you do sheet out a bit great to sheet in right as you land to soften the landing for sure.
@@evannetsch thank you!
Nothing on board size? A lot of people ride very small to hold down more power but I find smaller boards; can't get speed and can't get a nice pop. Too big of a board, can't hold a good edge.
Please sign me up for Netsch kite camp if you ever decide to have one!
Hi Youn, Yes I could have mentioned the role of the board for sure but I guess I didn't want to distract too much from the technique that can be applied to any "normal" sized twin tip. The board could be a 10 minute topic of it's own (thanks for the idea) but would say generally a board that can hold a lot of power and control will jump the best. So pretty square outline, not too much rocker and fairly stiff for loading up hard. I also will ride a little smaller (135 Xcaliber Wood, the one im standing on in this video) than my normal size (138-141) when very powered to help control my edge. I think the kite makes a more significant difference than the board also long as I'm not on some totally weird size / shape board. But yes in general i'd say the more powered you are you can go a bit smaller but I think some of the board flex, outline and rocker characteristics make an even bigger impact that the size unless you are going to crazy size extremes.
10:20 did the other guy drop in the middle of the grass
No mention of kit... ! Need the right kite. And a good board. Certain kites n boards just suck at doing jumps.
I disagree with you using the term depower and saying it needs to all the way out. It's a trim line that is meant to be adjusted according to wind and riding style. Personally I rarely have mine all the way out. And the lighter the wind gets the more I pull the trim line in to generate more power and keep the kite from choking out.