What Happened to Super Smash Flash 2?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- What are your thoughts on the state of the game, and future of SSF2? Definitely an interesting topic to discuss.
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - The Negatives
4:15 - How to Help SSF2
5:04 - The Positives
Music:
Kirby - The Great Cave Offensive
Pseudoenergy (.box) - idogedochiptune / pseudoenergy-box
Shovel Knight Melody - Rivals of Aether
#SSF2 #Bowler #SuperSmashFlash2 - Ігри
Do you still actively play SSF2?
If so, what do you think about the game's future?
Yes.......kinda, the modding area is getting me a chance to return into SSF2
I can't since Flash has been discontinued. Which sucks because there were a lot of flash fan games I loved playing as a kid and now they are all gone
Can't even play cuz of flash
I'm playing it right now. I downloaded it. I can't imagine this game ever dying
Yeah Im hoping people come back because its still a fun and good game
The game technically is still playable in browser if you have one that still supports Flash (I use Basilisk personally). Now all we need to do is install it onto every school computer.
and flashpatch
I just played it last night for the first time. I will be working on getting this game running with parsec with a
Button mapping program called reWASD. In reWASD after you made all controller. The key is to enable group. For instance, you want 4 players. In reWASD it would look like this in group Xbox+Xbox+Xbox+Xbox First you set up 4 controllers. after it's done. Keep on group for ever. Unplug the 3 controllers. When you turn PC back on. Your group should look like this Xbox+_____+______+______. When 3 players from parsec jump on your PC. It will go back to Xbox+Xbox+Xbox+Xbox the program will keep remapping buttons for new players by itself as long as you keep group on with all Xbox controllers.
@Mikey DJ Technically yes but if your machine is incapable of downloading it then it probably can't use these alternate methods either
@Mikey DJ Any game on your PC can be hosted to play online no matter what. All games must be mapped with xinput (Xbox controllers) parsec will only understand this. If your game isn't xinput compatible. All your games you host in parsec won't work. reWASD program makes this way easier for you. Steam games are automatic xinput so you don't have to map those at all. Emulators and smash flash 2 needs to be mapped out completely so it can work inside parsec. Parsec works like this. You have one computer. You are sharing your computer with 3 other people from parsec. How ever you mapped all your controllers, that's how they will work for the 3 online players. Basically, you have one keyboard. You have to map all four players with your one keyboard. reWASD makes this process simple. It gives you a controller layout. Create 4 gamepads inside reWASD from left to right. All controllers must be in form of (keyboard keys) no controller should have the same keys at all. After you made 4 gamepads with reWASD. Open smash flash 2 and configure all 4 controllers exactly how you did it in reWasd. Now here's the important vital trick to get this to work. Do this before you do anything. Install parsec soda to help you settings up virtual controllers because most likely you have 1 or 2 controllers only. Ok leave reWASD open with your (one controller) plugged in. Then open parsec soda. Enable 3 controllers only in parsec soda. 3 controllers will pop up inside reWASD. Group all 4 controllers together like this. (Xbox+Xbox+Xbox+Xbox) that's your whole keyboard but in form of 4 controllers. After you group 4 controllers as one device, save it. Ok, now completely turn off parsec soda. (You don't need) this at all anymore. Now if you look inside reWASD your group should look like this. (Xbox+_____+______+______) That's exactly what you want. Now when you host games in parsec. Anyone who jumps on your PC will fill those empty slots automatically. reWASD will keep remapping 3 controllers for new players every time new players jump in. You only have to set this up one time. Then everytime you wanna host games on parsec. Turn on reWASD with group left opened at all times. You're good to go. You don't have to touch parsec soda no more. That was just to help you set up (group). So ... install smash flash 2 on your PC, set up the whole thing one time and you're good to go. reWASD makes the process easy. It can be done without reWASD but it's the best method for me. The program is worth buying. If you just want keyboard mapping it's $7.00. If you auto aim assist, rapid fire, turbo buttons all kinds a crazy modification it's $24.00 It's completely worth it because you map out games one time. Just host in parsec. No more waisting time trying to figure out controller setup. Just play, no controller work.
There’s also flashpoint which archived the browser version I’m p sure
I don't feel SSF2 dying is that bad, the less time on the spotlight the less likely you get killed by Nintendo.
That's true
I doubt Nintendo would ever bother taking ssf2 down considering how much its already done as a basically independent entity
ssf2 in its peak popularity was far more popular than even project m, nintendo only really gives a shit about people making money off mods, even if its through arbitrary means like cash prizes in tourney
@@wille.2215 it was never more popular than PM competitively. Casually it was a flash game sooooo
Nintendo will never kill ssf2. If Nintendo wanted to kill a fan game then one they have a reason (usually they kill remakes) and two they'd have done it more than a decade ago.
I don't think the pandemic and Smash Con getting canceled helped. But I do think the devs have something up their sleeves to surprise us with.
The loss of Smashcon is definitely huge and can't be understated.
Tbf aren't working on that indie smash thingy? So in a twisted way, SSF2 dying can be considered good so that the devs can focus more on the indie smash thingy
Fraymakers, hopefully no more delays and it comes out within the end of this month
this game is in a really tough spot
the devs are splitting their team
no big fighting game events want it there because Nintendo will definitely not allow it
flash died
this being made in flash is also limiting it
smash hype has died due to ultimate being finished with its dlc
and on top of this
multiversus is pretty much gaining all the casual smash fans
i dont think theres much we can do to get this game big again
hopefully a big streamer/youtuber picks this up so their fanbase can come over
Yeah rivals of aether is taking most smash fans too
@@blustickman0285 rivals is pretty dope though
@@blustickman0285 Especially with Rivals adding Workshop support nearly three years ago, opening the floodgates to essentially infinite content, more so than Ultimate would ever receive. That’s the whole reason Rivals is stealing some of the Smash Bros player base.
@@fujinshu I can Def say that's part of the reason roa is getting so much popularity
There's lotsa high quality stuff made there after all the shitpost stuff kinda died out
Bro you sound like a master marketer
I just hope one day we get ssf2 to run on browsers again if there’s a way
thats the neat part,you dont
@@basedluger5192 what?
@@WinspearUltima flash is dead
they *might* be able to port it to webGL but honestly other than ruffle (which is a slightly unstable flash emulation), there aren't a whole lot of options
@@themilkstar hopefully that happens but we will have to see
been really into multiversus recently. But when SSF2 updates again, ill be sure to check it out
Ssf2 inspired me to start coding. Once Adobe died, my friends were left with nothing to play in the computer lab after school. I began making my own 2 player games on easy sites like scratch, but I'd always wish to play Ssf2 instead. This game made up a small but meaningful time in my life and I'd hate to see it die out.
If this game ends up like Melee, that would actually be sick. Players learning advanced tech, evolving a Meta, soon enough we'll peak at 20SS. Thank you for always shedding more light to this game, every inch counts.
SSF2 is one of my favorite childhood memories that I grow up playing with. It was ashamed I’ve been missed out on a lot unless I would get my own computer/laptop to play this game again. Hopefully my interests is still going strong; even if I’m still trying to look any updates they wanted to bring us.
I found ssf2 when I was in first grade in 2009 when we had free time in computer class. I loved playing with my best friend at the time where I would have the right side of the keyboard and he'd have the left side. Seeing it lose access from browser really stinks because it was always a fun game to go back to once in a while, especially with the new versions and updates. Oh well.
I've been playing SSF2 casually w/ friends and my brother, and they all love it, even the EA Sports only player thought the visuals looked awesome.
Can't wait for the next update, and am really thankful for the fun times the SSF2 has given me since 2017, where I once started as a browser player, only ever seeing SSF2 youtube content from mcleodgaming and you.
On another note, this vid was the first time I've seen those new images for the next update, and those stages resprites look sick!
I love playing SSF2, but I don’t play too often since I don't really have any friends who play it, so I end up just playing against CPU's for, like, half an hour before going off again
Even if I don't play too often, I love seeing other people play it, and also watching videos about it too. It's such a great game, and I'm really hoping that there's something that'll get me into playing more often like I used to
You should probably check out the several discord servers that exist if you want a practice partner
same i dont have friend who want to train so i keep playing with cpu
Play online then.
@@neophyte_tpk gooduck playing with the absurd lag
@@MadMax-ii8gqonline for this game sucks ngl. Tbf RoA online has somewhat spoiled me as even with the worst Internet its still very stable
I actually chuckled when you said retirement even before the sike moment.
Wake me up when they update the mods for 1.4
I think Fraymakers will be very exciting, especially as it will have Rivals of aether like mob support out the box...
5:15 i swear that Melvin guy is always hosting a lobby
You are the reason why I started playing SSF2 and recently I have been thinking about playing competitive but right now I’m just playing casual. So bowler, Thank You
I love these videos, keep it as good as the whole series ❤👽
this might be an unpopular opinion, but i really miss the art style from 2010-2013. maybe I'm just extremally nostalgic for the common sprites from Super Mario World, Sonic Advance, JUS, Chain of Memories and all the other ones ripped from DS, GBA and SNES games. The original reveal trailer from 2008 is pure nostalgic gold. It's kind of wild to think during this game's development we've had 4 smash games released.
Thank you so much for this comment. The SMW mario with the brawl textures was my absolute fav. Was such a big downgrade when they just made him try to look like smash mario but in 2d
The legend returns
We just need more active and creative content creators
Fr
Yup, I might do videos on it
6:25 oh shit that's me
I got back to ssf2 thanks to just getting a pc in early 2022, and I found downloading the game was pretty easy to do compared to another fan game I tried downloading.
Still getting used to the controls since I also play smash bros ultimate.
I know this is a horrible time to place this, but I didn't know where else to put it:
*Did you know you can get rid of the angel in the middle of the Tower of Salvation stage?* All you have to do is pick Rayman (Or take his Plum), Hit up to him, and attack from the side. He will then attack the Plum, stand on top of it, then fall into the blast zone forever
1. It’s not a fairy, it’s an angel.
2. It’s a guy, not a girl.
3. You can also turn the Hazard Switch off.
Still though, sounds like a fun exploit. Might give that a try some time soon.
@@MedhaosUnite Thanks, individual👍🏾
haven't been really playing actively anymore combination of a lack of updates/lack of time/other cool games that have had my attention at the moment. But I've been with this game since the beginning and my love for it will never die. Definitely plan on getting back into it at some point and I'm glad the competitive scene is growing for ssf2 it definitely deserves it.
Might get back into making smash flash content honestly, I feel like it doesn’t have a huge scene in terms of UA-camrs and I’d like to see that change.
I've been watching you on and off for years but I was massively into the game during the late 9B/early Beta days. I just remember all the hype and playing the game with my friends online when that was first possible all the time. I haven't played in a few years and sort of stopped smash altogether. That being said my theory was also that in the leadup to Ultimate people were playing the game a lot more because smash 4 was dull/inaccessible on the Wii U in the late era. Games like Slap City and Rivals were also much bigger in the Smash 4 era I always thought because of the Wii U. Even Br*wlhalla blew up during that time. I think a lot of the community were people like me who were into smash when they were younger given the browser nature and just moved on sometime in the ultimate days. Sorry for the essay and if you're still reading this let me know if you had a similar experience or if I'm totally wrong lol
I love this game, i spend around 1 to 2 hours a day playing it. But i can't really play as i would like to, i have a really bad internet connection so i can't play online, and none of my friend play this game and there is no active community close to me (i live in france). So i play offline, fighting bot and playing in training mode and still, this game is amazing even after 1 year, i still find new things and i can't get enough of this game, thx McLeodGaming and all the SSF2 contents creators. (sorry if there is a lot of mistakes, i'm not really good in english)
Hey i don't really play SSF2 anymore but I used to and I'm french too! Wish I could offer your to play together but back when I played it was still on the flash version, never played the downloadable one
Quelle coïncidence je pensais être le seul fr à jouer à ce jeu 😅
I hope it's coming back you know fr also I love your content bro keep it up
It's been forever since I've played. Out here 2 tricking pika and bandana. (Nice pfp btw) Glad recommended showed me this
"which is why, sadly, i want to announce my retirement from ssf2"
you better not
"no i'm just kidding of course"
good.
McLeodGaming is developing Fraymakers, which I think is gonna be the successor to SSF2 and the competitor to Rivals of Aether. However, I don’t think SSF2 is stopping development.
Yeah. I can see Fraymakers and SSF2 have a crossover like at least have a pixel shovel knight or octodad in the ssf2 roster
THE GOAT IS BACK
I think the main reason ssf2 is dying may be the browser, but I'd argue it is the netcode. It's based from flash which makes it extremely hard to support, same reason why it's not receiving too many updates too. People just don't use flash to code anymore. I think we could get a sequel more likely than an update, starting again in something bigger and better that could turn the "series" around.
Flash is obsolete but still a very easy software to use, and some of the team has gone on record saying they wouldn't want to keep working on the game if it was in a different software. Either way I don't think we're ever getting a sequel; fifteen years is already a long time to work on a fan project and not get paid for it, if they wanted to "start again" then at that point just make something like Fraymakers that can actually be sold for money.
Haven't played the game ever since flash got taken down
Thank you for reminding me of SSF2, I loved the game as a kid and remember thinking it was really, really good. Now that I have a new, better laptop I'm downloading it again to play it. The death of Flash really is the main reason that google trends of the game have become basically nothing.
The only reason that I personally left the scene was cause of the rule changes into download only for tournaments, as well as requiring ethernet. I get why those were implemented but me having been a young kid with a chromebook that took me out. And now I just got into ultimate and other FG’s I havent thought about ssf2 much. Maybe the bbm with no plan will return but that’s later. Nice vid!
>SSF2 is the best game ever
>As long as you take out these characters
>Cuts Mega Man
Hey >:(
Ah Super Smash Flash! I remember playing it back when Flash was still supported. I had no idea the game was still playable specially online play to this day!
ANOTHER BANGER BOWLER UPLOAD LETS GOOOOOO
WE NEED MORE CHARACTERS, SCENARIOS, ITEMS, GAME MODES, MUSIC, EVERYTHING SO IT DOESN'T DIE
Yes
Thanks to you imma get into competitive ssf2
5:47 never realized how few zoners there are in ssf2 lol
If they where to bring a new character to smash i would that it would be one that hasnt been in smash, since thats kinda the main reason i play it, that uniqueness
My main issue is that for the roster they are picking too many characters that are already in Smash Bros. The appeal of SSF was that it had the characters you’d never see in a Smash game. They need to lean into that much more.
The fact that Smash games did add characters like Sora, Cloud, Mega Man, Simon, etc. makes SSF feel much less unique. Originally they were going to add Vegeta and Sasuke but they decided not to which I think is a shame because they would bring players. I just don’t feel the need to get back into SSF when they add a character like Ganondorf because I can just play Smash.
Might as well just create a Shonen Smash game, with some guests like Black Mage and so on
Bowler thank you, you just encouraged me to play SSF2 AGAIN!
I need to revisit this game
I used to play it so god damn much, i enjoyed playing online and just joining alot of 1v1's but ever since flash died and I couldn't play on browser, I wasnt able to download it and i couldnt play and now i moved on, still love the game but i've seen less and less content on youtube.
i havent played ssf2 in a while since i got a new pc but my experience with the game i loved it, being a tails main hes fun to play, and black mage, and bomberman.
i’ll probably come back to the game sometime
a game i discovered around 5 years ago
and still playing as of today
I really wanna play this game again dude, I just don’t have access to it as far as I’m aware. Before flash died I was kinda lucky. Being able to get versions with near complete rosters on school computers with all the limitations was pretty sweet. Maybe one day I’ll play again.
I had a “my genuine reaction to that information:” moment when you announced you were quitting lmao
I played SSF2 and I got bored because I have no goal. Playing mode and finding tech and then what? There isn't much thing to do.
For me, SSF2 will never replace Smash Bros.
While I haven't touched SSF2 in 2-3 years, I believe the game is still going well. I'll probably look into the competitive scene more to see how much has changed
have been playing smash flash more than ever in the last few months, i am getting good at the game and even picking up a new main, i only play in open arenas though, and it is not that easy to get some legless matches here in EU
It has been some time since we got any updates for ssf2 I hope we’ll get more news and updates in the near future
Fraymakers is why
No
I Think I Need To Play More SSF2
I remember playing SSF2 back when I was at my school when i was a kid. I had fun playing it.
I downloaded ssf2 this week-end and this game is a masterpiece
I’ve been playing the super smash flash games since I 2008 around. I would spend so much time playing that and like cool math games. Super smash flash 1 and 2 will always hold their own spots in my heart. Man, I miss the days off my mom’s computer saying YOU GOT MAIL
every five minutes
As someone who loves customizablility in games, I've found Crusade/CMC+ much more appealing.
And as someone who loves fun in games, Crusade is a pile of crap that doesnt play nearly as fluid as SSF2
This video cam out around when I started getting into ssf2
cant wait for your next tournament ive been playing the game since i was 6 now im 16 for 10 years cant wait for the new prize sure its good
Aprecciate that video very much
Omg. That's outrageous. Incredible
i do play ssf2 now and then but i gotta say i just have so many other games i play and i just cant stay on one forever, ill still come back to it, now and then, heck, i played it like yesterday! i suppose i'm more interested in it being finished and hop on fraymakers, but still will get hyped for next ssf2 updates
new bigbowler drop
I haven't seen this game in like two years
Man, I loved Super Smash Flash 2 was the goat back then, I miss it.😢
I kinda moved on from this game, used to play all the time but now I only play it once in a while, mainly because I moved on to Multiversus
Can't say the same thing for my bff A.K.A Frixion who has been kinda poppin off with this game lately, proud of him!
Perfectly explained :)
you got me to download it
Dude I didn't even know it existed so definitely gonna play later
played ssf2 online it was to competitive for me so I just stopped playing but it definitely brings back good memories
I remember playing this game in high school and well it's pretty cool having characters from different shows and games in fact in every game website it's easy to play it than it is now because well now you need a flash to play it and you have to use a reliable website to play it
I've been a fan since 0.9b and haven't played SSF2 in quite a while, but I don't think the game will die until McLeod gives the mark... which ALSO won't be any time soon.
Recently, I have been more focused on doing other things on the Internet lately, and I've been having difficulty on figuring out which game I want to stream as of late. XD
From what I heard, they are working on both adding new updates to the game, and they are also trying to remake a backup version of it Incase the current one they have becomes unplayable, so they've been super busy and couldn't add to much new updates and contents rn. This game has been something that raised me sort of, so I'm always gonna love and support this game and keep on playing it regardless
Man I feel so old. 7 years huh... I played this game via browser with my friends in school back then. We all play ultimate now but maybe I should ask em to give SSF2 a shot again
I was playing this since I was 15, I’m 26 now. I was there since the first one, and I can honestly say it took too long for the full thing to come out completely.
We don’t play browser games like we used to, so it’s lost a lot of steam off that alone.
Greg McCleod will always have my respect for great childhood memories for sure tho.
To be honest i think the hype and the community has died out now since people like me have rarely been playing the game nor just play it whenever we get bored out of other games but hopefully they'll soon plan for more updates or add new characters to the game.
I'm still coming over to my best friend with a controller so we can play it. Feels like when i was younger i was coming over to my same friend to play minecraft on our tablets. I'm enjoying my "childhood" days as much as i can before i become an adult.
I like some of the alternatives costumes and different attack.
I originally joined the community through SSF1. It was jank but it was the only swf I could get through my school's fire wall. Eventually I learned that SSF2 existed and I really wanted to play it because I didn't have smash bros. Now that I have a computer I can play it.
I still play it to this day..
I feel like some big content creators should make some videos on SSF2
Everything has your "final point", if ssf2 "die", it will die like a legend, forever in our hearts. Love this game and its community!❤️❤️❤️
5:45 When you end up convincing the entire community your character's "broken" for being optimal 😂
Ive come back after 4 years to revive this game baby!
The lifetime of SSF2 and the nostalgia of SSF is strangely one of the most profound internet gaming lineages.
If it's dying, I dont think is bad, it will allow to the devs to create new and original projects :)
I loved playing the game back then and a good amount with the past updates, and seeing the competitive stuff just makes me wanna hop in and try again
Good video
I stopped playing after I started playing Ultimate competitively but it never would've happed if I didn't find this game originally
I'm currently playing it, I downloaded it from the page and I started playing it for several days, it made me very nostalgic to use ''Goku'' again, a character that always made me win and play it now, it's complicated hahaha
Last week a Spanish UA-camr has updated a SSF2 video, hope that can make SSF2 revive a bit more
Honestly, Smash Bros. Crusade has been doing a great job hyping itself lately and becoming more enjoyable the more I play it. Not saying Smash Flash 2 is bad, but I really hope it shows off something big to bring back hype.
I think the reason its dying casually because its so hard playing with online
Like not because its hard to log in
Its because its so hard to find somebody whos in a server that doesnt have smash levels of lag
Still play this masterpiece when I was child
I’m just a spectator now since life hit plus I’ve been playing the game for 10 years just have interest in ultimate and the FGC
The only reason I quit SSF2 was because of an arguably better fan-game, SSBC. Woulda remained if I hadn't discovered it. SSF2 is better in some ways, but SSBC in the end is better in my opinion. I still, from time to time, play SSF2 because of the better artistic choises and singleplayer content tho.
I remember playing the first one and not really understanding it, but I liked the crossover