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The best thing about the Azure Dust transformation, and honestly the only reason I ever used it, it doesn’t agro Erlang during your fight with him so it’s an easy way to get some hits in. That’s the only use I have for this transformation spell
Azure Dome is easily S-rank. It's the only transformation in the game that can actually kill some bosses completely before it runs out and you can heal up tons very quickly with it. And even high health bosses you can easily take half of their life away.
That changes in NG+4. Its DPS is great but I find loong better in overall burst. I don't need that much of healing as well and I don't prefer the revives. I mentioned as well as that any players can easily see it as S tier because of its spells and support ability but it is will not be the case ofr advanced players.
Completely agree. This transformation counters most of the strongest bosses in the game all the dragons, scorpion kids etc . What makes this transformation even better is the fact it's the only transformation that can't be countered by Er Lang who is hands down the strongest boss in the game.
You need to test more. Dark Thunder is hands down the most dmg transformation in Wukong. You can stack 5 AOE thunder circles together using ring of fire spell. Killing most bosses in 1 go.
the fact that I can use Azure Dome for everything in Ng+5, yet have to pull out Golden Lightning for Erlang and Wukong show how good that transformation is.
@@MrSefiroh you can use the fan to break Erlang's shield...but it doesn't fully break the shield, only breaks it enough for you to be able to deal the remaining needed damage
Nope, used it before even getting to Erlang. It's the only Transformation who's special tracks direction to the opponent so it never misses. It's far more reliable in doing damage than most of those on the list. Being slow isn't an issue because bosses come directly to you. It just requires some skill to use, not just spamming attacks.
@@pires11d Yeap I have 4 saves in total specifically tailored for different usage and I also retained 2 NG saves for vanilla experience just in case i need some info over there. sleepless nights indeed
Yeh I was wondering if that was a bug or not. Maybe it’s just such a shit transformation compared to the others that Erlang lets you get a few free hits off out of pity
Yellow Loong Clutched Erlang for me. I countered all his attacks, stunning him in the process and doing massive damage while also having the longest longevity of all the transformations
It really doesn't. The only reason why Erlang doesn't do anything is because he knows you need him to attack you to get it's stacks, but otherwise it's good for defensive stats in some situations
Another amazingly informative video. I had no idea about Ebon Flow's Windwalker form! Your advice to only use some of these transformations after having 3 focus points charged is priceless. Also I didn't realize how defensive Golden Lining is with those crazy dodges and that slick parry ability. Up until now I've basically been using transformations as an "oh shit" button to extend my health bar and hopefully get out some DPS, but I might need to change my approach and use them more as a burst phase. Thanks, Samurai
I appreciate the comment and you are the first one who said something like this. More power to you brother. And yeah, this game has its own level of deepness, Windwalker is a beast and Yin Tiger is lovely! But LOONG IS A MONSTER!
In that state, I suggest you use a loop of dodge+light attack+dodge+light attack, where the boss cannot even fight back and the damage is higher than continuous light attacks
@@xcs-g9h ohhh haven't tried this combination. But isn't that it will cost more might? but sure will test this as well. If it will result to more dps, way to go!
I saw a video of a test vs. the stone monkey boss. In the beginning, four focuses directly transformed into windwalkers, and only used light attacks to hit 3/5 of the blood volume. Using the cycle of dodge + first light attack, they hit 4/5 of the blood volume
1 note about Azure dust is that it also has not bane attached to it. meaning those bosses that adapt to the bane you are using (i think we all know which boss this is) doesn't grow in strength from it - he also says a funny line :)
You can pair the weavers needle vessel with violet hail the strategy is use is summon clones freeze the boss with immobilise activate the needle (the needle will apply eggs instead or you attacking to apply eggs) transform and start self torment till health is gone and the use hive mind for a massive damage after that use self torment again for the last time and run up and explode for the explosion of eggs and transformation damage.
@@JRPGSamurai it could most likely be a bug but it doesn’t feel like it as the needle and violet hail we get in the same area and the claw/dagger does resemble like the needle just a bit for the violet hail i would hope it isnt a bug but its like a hidden feature with azur dome where you can take the elemental damage and dish it out back.
Now that I think about it, there are a lot of hidden bugs in this game and it could be one of them. But its cool but make no sense haha, its fun to think to lay eggs and use the needle like a funnel in gundam series.
Azure Dome should be S tier becouse of the resurrection spell which btw dont cosume your resurrection in human form. So you basically have 4 health bars if you use resurrection instead of clones. NOTE: The passives you get from transformations (if you spend sparks on them in the skill tree) are always active regardless of which transformation you have currently equipped.
@@blackwidow7804 hey man, all of this were mentioned in the video. Advanced players also have little used of revives so there it goes. Specifically mentioned that these are key qualities of it.
@@JRPGSamurai The best thing about Azure Dome is the damage, bringing one of the highest damage output in the game, the revive ability also instantly fills your focus meter allowing you to get one extra charge attack in before the transformation runs out dealing a lot of damage. You say that ‘advanced players’ have no use of the revive, but that’s the best thing about it, you can use about 2 charge attacks, intentionally die, then use another charge right before your transformation ends, in total being the highest damage output in the game aside from Yellow Loong. Yellow Loong only does good damage if you manage to get 3 focus points, while Azure Dome does great damage even without the heavy attacks.
Golden lining is easily my favorite. The attacks are quick and they follow the enemy, so their movement doesn't matter much. And seeing through attacks works on any boss with any move. Kind of op really.
I love how much this game has hidden, that requires experimentation...as I never knew that Red Tides had 3 different heavy attacks based on the direction you dodged before executing, I thought it only ever had the explosion one
Glad horse guai got a high ranking that electric whip is badass and has range and he's never talked about enough. Probably cuz the noobs missed his transformation all together
Umbral abyss is one of my fav, his attack can freeze bosses, he can heal through his attacks, while being very mobile. Also his heavy attacks send out long projectiles....i just evade backward far away from boss and spam heavy attack...it will still hit the boss.
@@JRPGSamurai yeah they should give you the full tutorial of each transformation...so many hidden moves that i didnt even know. now ill try the horse, tiger, fist monkey and that dragon to see how strong they are.
@@happyduke99 Indeed, especially Red Tides, during my first playthrough, in the middle of it, I just discovered its varying heavy attacks. My goodness. Have fun trying them out!
@@JRPGSamurai yeah the only reason i know red tides got new moves, is from watch youtube video on how to do some hidden area.....and then i saw the player in the video using that move that i never saw before lol......thank you, i will try them out .....i got them a while ago ....feel bad for benching them lol
Sure, what I suggest is to test it against the dual blade monk in the temple entrance keeper shrine, this bou have some varrying movesets, perfect for practicing the loong or wukong's. Its the place that I am testing them with in this video. Then you can try the blind monks near the dual bladed. Godspeed equi!
16:05 stone monkey is objectively the best transformation,ive almost 4k or 5k dmg with him him and if u are experienced and conservative its even more better,azure dome caried me the entire game and i found most of the bosses even difficult ones sorta easy brfore getting its and one of the most fun ones to used. Yellow loong and stone monkey is both 2 S teir. Ashen slumber should should get A tier its so simple and easy to really high dmg no matter what u do to mostly everything in the games,especially bosses.
Thanks for sharing. Azure Dome is def strong but nothing matches long in terms of burst damage. The clips that you are seeing deals an easy 10k plus in one go, if you count his normal and varied attacks and you can easil hit 8k with his Death Trilogy move. I mentioned this in the video that many people will see dome as the best because of its jack of all trades ability. Ashen slumber on the other hand, fails to compare the ones higher than him. Its easy to use and I mentioned this as well, in fact I used him as well but when I optimized my game that's where he starts to fall off. Red tides has more burst damage than this guy.
Game Science should seriously consider replacing horfrost with non-white instead. Sickass theme song, ice and poison moveset. Hes an ideal transformation
Anything can work. I am not saying that it is a pure trash. The point of this video is explain what they do and stuff and ranked them according to to their effectiveness. The main problem is, people are just focused on NG only. These all changes when you reach higher cycles and you definitely see that Azure Dust fails in many aspects. Its just that there are more better option " If you want to optimize "
I think Azure Dust is underrated. It deals very consistent damage while also being a great mean of stalling. If you enjoy fighting in the monkey form and don’t want to invest a lot in transformations, then definitely try it. In high NG cycle though it becomes overwhelmed by its poor scaling and enemy’s high scaling.
I tend to love the monkey form indeed but mains loong as well. Since you can easily flush your might if you can burst with loong if you really don't like staying in transformation for long. All of these are NG+4 tested and I see Azure Dust's value really diminishes at that point.
Youre not using yin tiger properly. It doesnt matter how bad his normal attacks are, you should never use them. And the same goes for the charge attack. Even if you tranaform without any focus, all you have to do is stand next to the boss and hold block till you're fully charged then unleash windwalker to do some serious damage. The block ability is insane and very few things in the game can go through it. I have tried all the transformstions extensively and I always go back to Yin Tiger because of how reliable and consistent it is. Its near the top in terms of damage potential while also being very easy to achieve said damage. Also versatile in the sense that you can use it as a panic button when the boss goes crazy mode, maybe during some phase change, as you can transform and hold block to soak it up while charging yourself up. Great finisher and I think it should be S tier. Edit: as a side note, I beat Great Sage final boss on my 4th try during 1st play through thanks to this transformation.
Hello man, thanks for your insight first of all. I am aware how to use the Yin Tiger and if you will listen carefully, I mentioned that Windwalker is the way to go. That's why I suggested to access it right away and not stay on the normal form. God knows how I love banking on its perfect guard but I am more into burst damage. I am not saying its bad and its strong actually. But it is clear to see that it can't match the Golden Loong's Burst. We can see it in the numbers. Everything changes in NG+4 and all of the transformation's effectiveness changed a lot. Its easy to see otherwise in NG.
Azure dust is for sure A or S. Besides the ones that detransform and explode. He's pretty much the only one where I can GUARANTEE some damage will happen. When he builds up he ability bar and dive bombs. That might be the only move he gets but that's cool. The Red monkey is the best tho
Well... the strong attack of the Golden Lining doesn’t always land, which I found frustrating. The Umbral Abyss dodges attacks effectively, making it last longer. As for Red Tides, it deals continuous fire damage and is easy to use.
I think its just practice, since I managed to make it land always, the key is always use the finisher when the boss ended its attack animation since it your burst window. Umbral and Red are good transformations indeed.
I just tried all the top tier transformations and here are what I felt about them. Azure dome Pro: amazing damage, huge aoe with fire, can use spells but not recommended, can self heal with attack, can self res and immune to some damage, pretty perfect and fun transformation overall Con: no special dash like the sword monkey and tiger, locked behind the hardest boss Tiger Pro: can tank in regular form, fast attack machine with stagger in ww form, amazing dash, amazing mobility, very fun to play. Con: damage is so so for such a big weapon Horse Pro: amazing damage, amazing aoe, simple to use, visually appealing Con: cant self heal from attack, attack animation and movement felt clunky feel like an old man is using a whip Dragon Pro: high damage, fast movement, great dodge, can counter while attacking, very high damage triple slam attack (highest damage from transformations), can self heal from attack Con: high learning curve, more suited for single target fight a bit annoying fighting multiple enemies at once That is my opinions about the transformations, i hope it helps
Thanks for Sharing Duke, it matches my list. Many people are commenting that Dome is the best but I see otherwise. I tested it multiple times especially when it comes to DPS. The main prob with it is advance players will get little use of its defensive perks, this is the reason why see Loong as an unparalleled transformation.
@@JRPGSamurai yeah I do agree with you on that one....but remember that most ppl are not that advanced, most of them are probably only at ng+. And I bet to many ppl the azure res mechanics hard carry them through the tough bosses Dragon got higher DPS for sure, but his attacks are more suited for single target....against multiple targets I found it annoying when I try to kill one unit and other units jump in or shoot arrows to damage me. While the azure fire heavy AOE clears everything in one go....so that is why more ppl prefer the azure transformation ....more user friendly
Defenetly you didn't use Azure Dust at all. Azure Dust can easy remove ALL shield from Erlang (he just stops use most of his elemental attacks on you), also you shouldn't use attack on bosses (except Erlang ofc). Just fill meter and cast it twice. The damage is almost good as others in this case. Also just by standing and taking damage to fill your concentration meter you can wait for cooldowns on spells. And you forgot to mention, that most forms require 3 focus point (it's around 1-3k damage depends on your level) to be effective, while Azure Dust no.
He definitely underrated it a bit, but it's still not that good. Great in certain situations but clunky in most. "Its good against Erlang" is a silly argument, that's one boss. Its a nice transformation for plebs as you don't have to sweat too much to get something out of it but that's all. Mid at best.
Hmmm I didn't had that much of an issue removing Erlang's Shield. You can easily as well that the DPS is really lower compared to the others and you can see as well that you can almost do 2 jumps per uptime. This is an NG+4 Cycle and my judgment really changes when playing on higher difficulty.
If you upgrade the transformations with sparks do you only get the bonuses if you have them equipped? Like if I upgrade steadfast for the defensive stats do I only receive the defensive buff when I have the transformation equipped ?
Is the timing on Golden Lining's see through attacks the same as when we're in our regular form? Because I have no issues using see through when playing normally, but can't seem to really execute any in the transformation
In my opinion the Suh's parry is slower compared to Yellow Loong's. Loong's animation will spin quickly and this is the window where we want to receive the enemy attack.
thanks alot for all your useful tips. able to have a video to share the best build tier list? wukong set build, poison build, thunder build, bull king def build and etc.. that will be good thanks in advance.
@@JRPGSamurai can i have a quick question? which is actually stronger poison build or thunder build? which armour i should craft 1st? what about Yaksha. the rest like bull king, gold and pilgrim i have already. why i am asking is because i have limited celestial ribbon so want to get the most worthy armor 1st. i have enough mats to only craft 2 sets of mythical so i need to choose two out of this 3 sets poison, thunder and Yaksha
@@jaydenlim2962 I would suggest going in for the safest bet for now. I would highly suggest maxing out the golden set first and builds the best setup for spirit spamming instead of thunder and poison. Because I haven't optimized my setup yet. Poison builds are lil bit iffy for now and my lightning build needs tweaking because the Loongscale set is poorly designed as of now. If you thunder, I suggest pairing Golden Set with a Stormflash staff in NG+. Or better yet, use the Fuban Staff and use any spirit that you want.
@@jaydenlim2962 go for yaksha if you want more challenge. While centipede is good if you do have the centipede unique armguard. How about you save it for the bull king then.
Hello Matt, well hes fun to use if you are just factoring fun factor. Freezing enemies are more fun with the Snowball Figt. Just ensure you'll cast that ice sheet as soon as you can since he is slo as hell.
Moreover, due to the fast light attack of yellow loong, you can easily detect it by reaction at any time. I have successfully detected it nine out of ten times with loong's detection, while the monkey's own detection may only be successful three times
Hello Bleed, I am not saying that Dust does not work. Its just that these videos are looking at the bigger picture especially when playing in higher cycles. Everything can change at this point and I find Azure Dust's effectiveness very niche compared to the others where you can use them in almost everywhere.
It's funny that you label some of these transformations "good for beginners" even though beginners can't even access them 😂 You have to have progressed way past the beginning of the game to get 99% of the transformations you showcase 😂
What I mean by this is players who are starting their first NG cycle. In my opinion, players who progressed on new cycles like NG+ to 4 are not beginners anymore. Also when I say "beginners" I am also referring for players who doen't have that much of an exp in ARPGs.
Talking purely in terms of damage and ignoring damage reduction or revive as you have mentioned all over and ranked the forms. IMO, u seriously mis ranked violet hail. That transformation when paired with needle does absurd amount of damage. Paired with fuban staff and centipede build, every strike from needle crits and staggers the enemy. In most cases, pluck of many isnt even needed to digress the boss. Two full burst damage from 4 eggs with destruction exhibits very high damage, easily above 8k. P.S. u can use the scorpion spirit to instantly poison Bane the enemy before using violet hail
@@JRPGSamurai addressed recently? Did u mention this in any other video. I m saying because I want to know more information on poison build and if what I m saying is correct
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The best thing about the Azure Dust transformation, and honestly the only reason I ever used it, it doesn’t agro Erlang during your fight with him so it’s an easy way to get some hits in. That’s the only use I have for this transformation spell
Yeap, I imagine a lot of people have the same take as well.
Azure Dome is easily S-rank. It's the only transformation in the game that can actually kill some bosses completely before it runs out and you can heal up tons very quickly with it. And even high health bosses you can easily take half of their life away.
That changes in NG+4. Its DPS is great but I find loong better in overall burst. I don't need that much of healing as well and I don't prefer the revives. I mentioned as well as that any players can easily see it as S tier because of its spells and support ability but it is will not be the case ofr advanced players.
Completely agree. This transformation counters most of the strongest bosses in the game all the dragons, scorpion kids etc . What makes this transformation even better is the fact it's the only transformation that can't be countered by Er Lang who is hands down the strongest boss in the game.
@@DO02129 lovely
in my opinion Azure Dome is the best transformation, this transformation save-me many times
Agreed Azure Dome honestly is the only S-tier transformation.
You need to test more. Dark Thunder is hands down the most dmg transformation in Wukong. You can stack 5 AOE thunder circles together using ring of fire spell. Killing most bosses in 1 go.
Thanks for the tip!
How does ring of fire affect transformations?
Standing in the fire circle can restore energy, and with full skill points and white fox hair, the limit can release five lightning circles
the fact that I can use Azure Dome for everything in Ng+5, yet have to pull out Golden Lightning for Erlang and Wukong show how good that transformation is.
Yellow Loong is the goat! I dunno he feel special man! his movesets are so satisfying to use. I agree.
People getting triggered Azure Dust is D-tier = relied heavily on Azure Dust to get Erlang's shield down lol
Indeed a niche use, and I did not have a hard time breaking the shield either.
not to mention, Erlang tends to avoid using his transformation timeout tiger attack when you use Azure Dust
Can't you just use the fan vessel to break his shield?
@@MrSefiroh you can use the fan to break Erlang's shield...but it doesn't fully break the shield, only breaks it enough for you to be able to deal the remaining needed damage
Nope, used it before even getting to Erlang. It's the only Transformation who's special tracks direction to the opponent so it never misses. It's far more reliable in doing damage than most of those on the list. Being slow isn't an issue because bosses come directly to you. It just requires some skill to use, not just spamming attacks.
Yellow loong is my fav transformation as well, when i first pulled the 3 focus move, i was completely blown away by the damage
THE GOAT!
many wandering wights were seriously harmed during the making of this video. RIP
I AM SO SORRY! I needed to test them on boss. Not just Wight, Lingxu, Red Tides and Guangmou XD
I feel for them too 🥺
@@pires11d Oh pires! I did not hurt them on purpose XD
@@JRPGSamurai by the way, how did you fight them so many times? Multiple save games, right?
@@pires11d Yeap I have 4 saves in total specifically tailored for different usage and I also retained 2 NG saves for vanilla experience just in case i need some info over there. sleepless nights indeed
When I unlocked them all I went back to chief macaque . Became my fav one
Very fun gameplay!
funny that Asure Dust is what clutches Erlang
Its a meme in my opinion in NG+4 and up cycles.
Yeh I was wondering if that was a bug or not. Maybe it’s just such a shit transformation compared to the others that Erlang lets you get a few free hits off out of pity
@@luisgilchrist XD omg
Yellow Loong Clutched Erlang for me. I countered all his attacks, stunning him in the process and doing massive damage while also having the longest longevity of all the transformations
It really doesn't. The only reason why Erlang doesn't do anything is because he knows you need him to attack you to get it's stacks, but otherwise it's good for defensive stats in some situations
Another amazingly informative video. I had no idea about Ebon Flow's Windwalker form! Your advice to only use some of these transformations after having 3 focus points charged is priceless. Also I didn't realize how defensive Golden Lining is with those crazy dodges and that slick parry ability. Up until now I've basically been using transformations as an "oh shit" button to extend my health bar and hopefully get out some DPS, but I might need to change my approach and use them more as a burst phase. Thanks, Samurai
I appreciate the comment and you are the first one who said something like this. More power to you brother. And yeah, this game has its own level of deepness, Windwalker is a beast and Yin Tiger is lovely! But LOONG IS A MONSTER!
In that state, I suggest you use a loop of dodge+light attack+dodge+light attack, where the boss cannot even fight back and the damage is higher than continuous light attacks
@@xcs-g9h ohhh haven't tried this combination. But isn't that it will cost more might? but sure will test this as well. If it will result to more dps, way to go!
I saw a video of a test vs. the stone monkey boss. In the beginning, four focuses directly transformed into windwalkers, and only used light attacks to hit 3/5 of the blood volume. Using the cycle of dodge + first light attack, they hit 4/5 of the blood volume
@@xcs-g9h this strategy sounds interesting, thanks for the suggestion
1 note about Azure dust is that it also has not bane attached to it. meaning those bosses that adapt to the bane you are using (i think we all know which boss this is) doesn't grow in strength from it - he also says a funny line :)
hahah lol!
You can pair the weavers needle vessel with violet hail the strategy is use is summon clones freeze the boss with immobilise activate the needle (the needle will apply eggs instead or you attacking to apply eggs) transform and start self torment till health is gone and the use hive mind for a massive damage after that use self torment again for the last time and run up and explode for the explosion of eggs and transformation damage.
What a strategy, its insane to think that the needle can fester enemies with eggs. Thanks for the tip!
@@JRPGSamurai it could most likely be a bug but it doesn’t feel like it as the needle and violet hail we get in the same area and the claw/dagger does resemble like the needle just a bit for the violet hail i would hope it isnt a bug but its like a hidden feature with azur dome where you can take the elemental damage and dish it out back.
Now that I think about it, there are a lot of hidden bugs in this game and it could be one of them. But its cool but make no sense haha, its fun to think to lay eggs and use the needle like a funnel in gundam series.
Azure Dome should be S tier becouse of the resurrection spell which btw dont cosume your resurrection in human form. So you basically have 4 health bars if you use resurrection instead of clones.
NOTE: The passives you get from transformations (if you spend sparks on them in the skill tree) are always active regardless of which transformation you have currently equipped.
@@blackwidow7804 hey man, all of this were mentioned in the video. Advanced players also have little used of revives so there it goes. Specifically mentioned that these are key qualities of it.
@@JRPGSamurai
The best thing about Azure Dome is the damage, bringing one of the highest damage output in the game, the revive ability also instantly fills your focus meter allowing you to get one extra charge attack in before the transformation runs out dealing a lot of damage. You say that ‘advanced players’ have no use of the revive, but that’s the best thing about it, you can use about 2 charge attacks, intentionally die, then use another charge right before your transformation ends, in total being the highest damage output in the game aside from Yellow Loong. Yellow Loong only does good damage if you manage to get 3 focus points, while Azure Dome does great damage even without the heavy attacks.
Azure Dome is prolly my favorite of them all
@@Suho-Sung_Ragnarok Way to go Suho. Good Transformation.
Golden lining is easily my favorite. The attacks are quick and they follow the enemy, so their movement doesn't matter much. And seeing through attacks works on any boss with any move. Kind of op really.
@@designsbysell S tier indeed. My only top Transformation objectively as well.
+1 to azure dust for humoring Erlang.
I love how much this game has hidden, that requires experimentation...as I never knew that Red Tides had 3 different heavy attacks based on the direction you dodged before executing, I thought it only ever had the explosion one
Yeah its is so fun experimenting at times, and there are a lot to optimized.
Glad horse guai got a high ranking that electric whip is badass and has range and he's never talked about enough. Probably cuz the noobs missed his transformation all together
He is a monster. Those thunder stacking mech is is fun and powerful.
Umbral abyss is one of my fav, his attack can freeze bosses, he can heal through his attacks, while being very mobile. Also his heavy attacks send out long projectiles....i just evade backward far away from boss and spam heavy attack...it will still hit the boss.
Yeah when I first tried it, it was super fun and loved it right away but when I tried loong my goodness.
@@JRPGSamurai yeah they should give you the full tutorial of each transformation...so many hidden moves that i didnt even know. now ill try the horse, tiger, fist monkey and that dragon to see how strong they are.
@@happyduke99 Indeed, especially Red Tides, during my first playthrough, in the middle of it, I just discovered its varying heavy attacks. My goodness. Have fun trying them out!
@@JRPGSamurai yeah the only reason i know red tides got new moves, is from watch youtube video on how to do some hidden area.....and then i saw the player in the video using that move that i never saw before lol......thank you, i will try them out .....i got them a while ago ....feel bad for benching them lol
@@happyduke99 Its alryt and enjoy them on your own time. Stay awesome buddy.
Azure dust is very good agaist erlang because He think that The transformation is só ridículos that He stops
The other reason is that Azure Dust builds focus by being hit, so Erlang just stops attacking to keep you from building focus
Its a very niche Transformation so yeah.
Justice for ashen slumber, he is great
Not saying he's not its just that there are better options. But using any of the transformations here is viable.
Honestly I used fire tides up until chapter 5 and then I used the yellow loong summon for the rest of the game, I love the fast pace.
Me too. Also did a thunder build. Can’t go without yellow loong.
Red Tides is surely lovely. But Yellow Loong is GOAT!
THE GOAT!
@@JRPGSamurai I didn’t know focus points moved over now I’ll actually try some of them like the bird monkey. Thought he was useless before this.
@@typicalw1248 Yeah there are a handful of transformations that can do this. Game changer indeed and have fun!
Good tier list and video Mr. Samurai 😍
Thanks Asche as always.
Thanks for posting Samurai
Thanks Si!
Do you know any way to practice the see through parry? I can pull it off but not consistently
Sure, what I suggest is to test it against the dual blade monk in the temple entrance keeper shrine, this bou have some varrying movesets, perfect for practicing the loong or wukong's. Its the place that I am testing them with in this video. Then you can try the blind monks near the dual bladed. Godspeed equi!
16:05 stone monkey is objectively the best transformation,ive almost 4k or 5k dmg with him him and if u are experienced and conservative its even more better,azure dome caried me the entire game and i found most of the bosses even difficult ones sorta easy brfore getting its and one of the most fun ones to used.
Yellow loong and stone monkey is both 2 S teir. Ashen slumber should should get A tier its so simple and easy to really high dmg no matter what u do to mostly everything in the games,especially bosses.
Thanks for sharing. Azure Dome is def strong but nothing matches long in terms of burst damage. The clips that you are seeing deals an easy 10k plus in one go, if you count his normal and varied attacks and you can easil hit 8k with his Death Trilogy move. I mentioned this in the video that many people will see dome as the best because of its jack of all trades ability. Ashen slumber on the other hand, fails to compare the ones higher than him. Its easy to use and I mentioned this as well, in fact I used him as well but when I optimized my game that's where he starts to fall off. Red tides has more burst damage than this guy.
Game Science should seriously consider replacing horfrost with non-white instead. Sickass theme song, ice and poison moveset.
Hes an ideal transformation
I agree, but I think Transformations are for beasts only feature. He became a spirit instead.
I beat yellow loong with Azure dust. It’s all about your play style
Not hard, as azure dust you‘re basically invincible against yellow loong
You can beat the game with literally anything. The point of videos like these is to say how to beat it easier
Anything can work. I am not saying that it is a pure trash. The point of this video is explain what they do and stuff and ranked them according to to their effectiveness. The main problem is, people are just focused on NG only. These all changes when you reach higher cycles and you definitely see that Azure Dust fails in many aspects. Its just that there are more better option " If you want to optimize "
I think Azure Dust is underrated. It deals very consistent damage while also being a great mean of stalling. If you enjoy fighting in the monkey form and don’t want to invest a lot in transformations, then definitely try it.
In high NG cycle though it becomes overwhelmed by its poor scaling and enemy’s high scaling.
I tend to love the monkey form indeed but mains loong as well. Since you can easily flush your might if you can burst with loong if you really don't like staying in transformation for long. All of these are NG+4 tested and I see Azure Dust's value really diminishes at that point.
@@JRPGSamurai Golden Lining is the undisputed #1 in high NG cycles for sure. Or better even, the only viable transformation.
Agree 300%
Youre not using yin tiger properly. It doesnt matter how bad his normal attacks are, you should never use them. And the same goes for the charge attack.
Even if you tranaform without any focus, all you have to do is stand next to the boss and hold block till you're fully charged then unleash windwalker to do some serious damage. The block ability is insane and very few things in the game can go through it. I have tried all the transformstions extensively and I always go back to Yin Tiger because of how reliable and consistent it is. Its near the top in terms of damage potential while also being very easy to achieve said damage. Also versatile in the sense that you can use it as a panic button when the boss goes crazy mode, maybe during some phase change, as you can transform and hold block to soak it up while charging yourself up. Great finisher and I think it should be S tier.
Edit: as a side note, I beat Great Sage final boss on my 4th try during 1st play through thanks to this transformation.
Hello man, thanks for your insight first of all. I am aware how to use the Yin Tiger and if you will listen carefully, I mentioned that Windwalker is the way to go. That's why I suggested to access it right away and not stay on the normal form. God knows how I love banking on its perfect guard but I am more into burst damage. I am not saying its bad and its strong actually. But it is clear to see that it can't match the Golden Loong's Burst. We can see it in the numbers. Everything changes in NG+4 and all of the transformation's effectiveness changed a lot. Its easy to see otherwise in NG.
There needs to be a DLC where you can play as one of the transformations permanently. Maybe a PvP mode?
I totally agree, playing these transformation is really fun!
Umbral Abyss also heals itself while attacking once you activate Cold Heart
Yeah I noticed this as well. Good bonus.
Azure dust is for sure A or S. Besides the ones that detransform and explode. He's pretty much the only one where I can GUARANTEE some damage will happen. When he builds up he ability bar and dive bombs. That might be the only move he gets but that's cool. The Red monkey is the best tho
Well... the strong attack of the Golden Lining doesn’t always land, which I found frustrating.
The Umbral Abyss dodges attacks effectively, making it last longer.
As for Red Tides, it deals continuous fire damage and is easy to use.
I think its just practice, since I managed to make it land always, the key is always use the finisher when the boss ended its attack animation since it your burst window. Umbral and Red are good transformations indeed.
I just tried all the top tier transformations and here are what I felt about them.
Azure dome
Pro: amazing damage, huge aoe with fire, can use spells but not recommended, can self heal with attack, can self res and immune to some damage, pretty perfect and fun transformation overall
Con: no special dash like the sword monkey and tiger, locked behind the hardest boss
Tiger
Pro: can tank in regular form, fast attack machine with stagger in ww form, amazing dash, amazing mobility, very fun to play.
Con: damage is so so for such a big weapon
Horse
Pro: amazing damage, amazing aoe, simple to use, visually appealing
Con: cant self heal from attack, attack animation and movement felt clunky feel like an old man is using a whip
Dragon
Pro: high damage, fast movement, great dodge, can counter while attacking, very high damage triple slam attack (highest damage from transformations), can self heal from attack
Con: high learning curve, more suited for single target fight a bit annoying fighting multiple enemies at once
That is my opinions about the transformations, i hope it helps
Thanks for Sharing Duke, it matches my list. Many people are commenting that Dome is the best but I see otherwise. I tested it multiple times especially when it comes to DPS. The main prob with it is advance players will get little use of its defensive perks, this is the reason why see Loong as an unparalleled transformation.
@@JRPGSamurai yeah I do agree with you on that one....but remember that most ppl are not that advanced, most of them are probably only at ng+. And I bet to many ppl the azure res mechanics hard carry them through the tough bosses
Dragon got higher DPS for sure, but his attacks are more suited for single target....against multiple targets I found it annoying when I try to kill one unit and other units jump in or shoot arrows to damage me. While the azure fire heavy AOE clears everything in one go....so that is why more ppl prefer the azure transformation ....more user friendly
Indeed and I agree, and I have specifically mentioned this in the video why many people see the Dome as the " best ".
@@JRPGSamurai yeah i guess when it is high up there, it all boil down to self preferernce
Defenetly you didn't use Azure Dust at all. Azure Dust can easy remove ALL shield from Erlang (he just stops use most of his elemental attacks on you), also you shouldn't use attack on bosses (except Erlang ofc). Just fill meter and cast it twice. The damage is almost good as others in this case. Also just by standing and taking damage to fill your concentration meter you can wait for cooldowns on spells. And you forgot to mention, that most forms require 3 focus point (it's around 1-3k damage depends on your level) to be effective, while Azure Dust no.
He definitely underrated it a bit, but it's still not that good. Great in certain situations but clunky in most. "Its good against Erlang" is a silly argument, that's one boss. Its a nice transformation for plebs as you don't have to sweat too much to get something out of it but that's all. Mid at best.
Hmmm I didn't had that much of an issue removing Erlang's Shield. You can easily as well that the DPS is really lower compared to the others and you can see as well that you can almost do 2 jumps per uptime. This is an NG+4 Cycle and my judgment really changes when playing on higher difficulty.
Imo its its just right and I tend to see the bigger picture and not just useful for a certain fight. I mentioned it as well in the video.
If it's only useful against Erlang and not other bosses then it's not really that useful.
@@PeterPing One of my points really.
If you upgrade the transformations with sparks do you only get the bonuses if you have them equipped? Like if I upgrade steadfast for the defensive stats do I only receive the defensive buff when I have the transformation equipped ?
Ah no, you can upgrade their talents and even if the exact transformation is not equipped, you can enjoy the benefits.
Golden lightning full stack attack is the most powerful thing in the game literally drains bosses health pool like 40 percent.
Goat indeed.
Nice tier :)
Thanks Willy!
Is the timing on Golden Lining's see through attacks the same as when we're in our regular form? Because I have no issues using see through when playing normally, but can't seem to really execute any in the transformation
In my opinion the Suh's parry is slower compared to Yellow Loong's. Loong's animation will spin quickly and this is the window where we want to receive the enemy attack.
@@JRPGSamurai ah nice, will look out for that cue, and figure it out from there. Thanks!
Let's go Fai! You can do this. Its fun indeed.
thanks alot for all your useful tips. able to have a video to share the best build tier list? wukong set build, poison build, thunder build, bull king def build and etc.. that will be good thanks in advance.
welcome Jayden, no worries, I will be making builds soon and rank them as well!
@@JRPGSamurai can i have a quick question? which is actually stronger poison build or thunder build? which armour i should craft 1st? what about Yaksha. the rest like bull king, gold and pilgrim i have already. why i am asking is because i have limited celestial ribbon so want to get the most worthy armor 1st. i have enough mats to only craft 2 sets of mythical so i need to choose two out of this 3 sets poison, thunder and Yaksha
@@jaydenlim2962 I would suggest going in for the safest bet for now. I would highly suggest maxing out the golden set first and builds the best setup for spirit spamming instead of thunder and poison. Because I haven't optimized my setup yet. Poison builds are lil bit iffy for now and my lightning build needs tweaking because the Loongscale set is poorly designed as of now. If you thunder, I suggest pairing Golden Set with a Stormflash staff in NG+. Or better yet, use the Fuban Staff and use any spirit that you want.
@@JRPGSamurai thanks for your reply. i already have the golden set. now i just need to choose 2 out of 3 sets which are poison, thunder or Yaksha.
@@jaydenlim2962 go for yaksha if you want more challenge. While centipede is good if you do have the centipede unique armguard. How about you save it for the bull king then.
What has baby thanos done to you man
Nothing man, I love him its just that he is the first reasonable boss to showcase these transformations =)
Are they all fully upgrades in the skilltree or is it just the "base versions"?
Why does it matter? The upgrades are the same for all.
They are all maxed upgraded indeed, this is an NG+4 Cycle so bosses are chunky.
Rat should be a spot or tier higher just cuz the exp grind.
No
AHAH! It helps us alot!
I wanted to like the water monk but hes so slow timing his attack blows is not the easiest...
Hello Matt, well hes fun to use if you are just factoring fun factor. Freezing enemies are more fun with the Snowball Figt. Just ensure you'll cast that ice sheet as soon as you can since he is slo as hell.
Red Tides should be A Tier
Dude Azure Dust is top 5 best transformation
Ah no, I tend to disagree, many of us have the same sentiments.
Azure Dust is S Tier cuz it’s the only transformation Erlang won’t attack 😂
XD
How do you parry with gold lining?
Combo light attacks and then use a heavy attack just as the enemy's attack hits you and it'll do a parry attack and give you a focus point.
@@dustinbiester4401 Thank you
Exactly, just like doing a resolute combo with SUH!
@@JRPGSamurai Thank you too
Moreover, due to the fast light attack of yellow loong, you can easily detect it by reaction at any time. I have successfully detected it nine out of ten times with loong's detection, while the monkey's own detection may only be successful three times
Hey man Azure Dust works Erlangs shield and he won’t de transform you from that he just talks shit
Yes! AZURE DUST is OP.
Hello Bleed, I am not saying that Dust does not work. Its just that these videos are looking at the bigger picture especially when playing in higher cycles. Everything can change at this point and I find Azure Dust's effectiveness very niche compared to the others where you can use them in almost everywhere.
@@JRPGSamurai I know I never use it lol it does come in clutch sometimes tho
It's funny that you label some of these transformations "good for beginners" even though beginners can't even access them 😂 You have to have progressed way past the beginning of the game to get 99% of the transformations you showcase 😂
What I mean by this is players who are starting their first NG cycle. In my opinion, players who progressed on new cycles like NG+ to 4 are not beginners anymore. Also when I say "beginners" I am also referring for players who doen't have that much of an exp in ARPGs.
Why cry?
Talking purely in terms of damage and ignoring damage reduction or revive as you have mentioned all over and ranked the forms. IMO, u seriously mis ranked violet hail. That transformation when paired with needle does absurd amount of damage. Paired with fuban staff and centipede build, every strike from needle crits and staggers the enemy. In most cases, pluck of many isnt even needed to digress the boss. Two full burst damage from 4 eggs with destruction exhibits very high damage, easily above 8k.
P.S. u can use the scorpion spirit to instantly poison Bane the enemy before using violet hail
I have already addressed all of these man recently but hey, thanks for the feedback.
@@JRPGSamurai addressed recently? Did u mention this in any other video. I m saying because I want to know more information on poison build and if what I m saying is correct