I'm an AA and no matter where I move, I want to be useful. Things don't have to be perfect if we can contribute and help build parts of Africa. Many AA will come with intellectual and monetary support. Not to make the natives feel bad or uncomfortable but to contribute.
Genevieve Baldwin Exactly. I don’t want to go to the motherland and siphon whatever I can get from them. I want to put my two cents in to making it a better place.
Throughout my life I've lived in three African countries and the US. I prefer life in Africa over the West hands down...I think this global move back to the continent is largely attributed to where we are on the Most High's calendar. All things are returning to their natural order and intended purposes. With that said plus the global village movement creating this sense of a homogeneous culture/people where there are no definitive lines it's forging duality. You find one group that wants to follow the movement and enjoy all it affords and on the other hand there are those of us that cling to our ethnic backgrounds, cultures that do in sense separate us and push towards maturing the African experience.
You are so lucky I think the ANCESTORS are calling the DIASPORA home for those that hear the call from with in. You have an amazing history and culture language when I have a chance will be coming and finding our where my ANCESTORS came from!
Myriam Pierre Thank you much for your words hey!! Yes, you’re correct the ancestors are calling their children home actively, one just needs to be in tune with the spiritual clock/calendar of the Most High. Answer the call and allow the Ancestors to hide you home, they’re always speaking to and assisting us!
Great discussion. My husband is from Ghana and we are moving there next year. This definitely opened my eyes and made me more aware of my perceptions and expectations. Thank you.
The brother in the purple sweater is speaking from a jealous position, an indirect passive aggressive position. Bottom line he’s jealous masking it in intellectual debate. He’s right about cultural immersion though. Look, from the outside looking in, it’s the stagnant and crowded western economies that has been built to shut out the diaspora permanently has put gasoline on the conversation. Living in Africa part time, investing full time as an entrepreneur is another option. Also, the branding of the continent has drastically improved. Imagine an African Dream. 🙌🏾
Azu was super disrespectful to Elvina. The host should have intervened and put Azu in check. Would he have sat back if he was the target of personal attack? Instead of arguing his point or perspective, he chose to personally attack Elvina and associate her with European colonizers. I would have never tolerated his behavior towards a fellow guest.
I agree he's personally attacking her to get his point across. He said she isn't experiencing Africa because she has a driver maid etc. 1. People have grown up in Africa and they have all those things. 2. Africa is different to Europe in the sense that you can't just dive in to things, you can't just go to the the local markets because people will sense that you haven't grown up there and they will finesse you on prices etc. He honestly made no smart points from the beginning to where I stopped watching.
Excellent conversation with topics raised that maybe uncomfortable to have, but necessary. The diaspora needs to be aware of the issues that may come with returning. Some people may not accept you but I think that most people will. There will always be those that are jealous of your opportunities, wealth, education etc, thats human nature. So, by having this dialogue we can mitigate the problem before hand, so we can move forward and develop Africa. We are in this together.
I think Azu was not fully acknowledging that the economic threshold for having house-help in West Africa is much more within reach. Lots and lots of local people in Ghana, Ivory Coast and Nigeria (very much like in Jamaica) don't have to have much money to hire household assistance. So sad that he saw Elvina's examples as a reason for going after her for "being like a colonial master." Especially when she was actually making the point that that way of life led her to mix with the people more than if she led a more arm's length, automation-reliant life in the Western world. Repatriating to the Continent should not have to mean taking a vow of austerity. Anyway, it's good that members of the Diaspora are having this conversation.
When I was in Ghana for four months in 1971,there. Were approximately one hundred African Americans inGhana just in that time period of time.We were fascinated with Africa in the1960sand seventies. What I There were returnees all over.That one guy is too negative.We must not discourage each other like he is doing.He is dead end.
The only lady in the panel seems to have a good grasp of the issue under discussion. For the simple question as to why are African/ black people moving back lately, his response is too vague, whereas the lady hit the point on the head- knowledgeable she is.
Azu is correct about saying you need to do your research before going to live there and he was not attacking the woman when he said she was living that lifestyle but most people who return to Africa, don’t live like that with a driver and a housekeeper. Azu is keeping things real. You can’t keep blaming the media.
Attraction is superficial. Africa offers peace, independence and whatever comfort you can afford. Living "surviving" in western countries will never provide peace as a hunan being. Many blacks in western countries are infatuated with a racial power structure they will never be fully accepted in.
The reason why I personally think black people from the diaspora going back to Africa is business & the rise in racism in Europe & America & South America.
This is exactly why we set up the AfricanDiaspora Political Action Committee (ADPAC) www.adpac.net based on the tenets of Powernomics to exclusively benefit African Diasporan socio economic advancement.
The guy in the purple shirt on the end would like to tailor everyone's experience back to the continent to what he thinks their experience should be. He's forgetting that those diasporans who choose to have maids, drivers, cooks etc are creating jobs for those individuals.
This is an interesting watch. All the speakers had valid points, i must say; but I was particularly intrigued by what the speaker, Azu said. He highlighted critical points most returnees would not have considered before making the big move. He's one to look out for on the show. I look forward to more shows like this. Good job guys.
Ok. My purpose wanting to live in Ancestral Africa; to support the economy, to volunteer skills and service for those needing assistance, to participate in athletic activity, to learn planting and farming. To live where I'm not considered 3/5 human since my race is the majority. To live where the country is not anti-family as western cultures are. I applaud Kenya for not compromising on procreation values and Laws of Nature.
The "colonizer comment " was out the line, disrespectful, and a complete lack of emo-intillenge, historical perspective and LOVE- every one need to understand that interaction should must be "on the level" | but NO you can not say to am African descent woman who is making the move back into the continent that she can be mistaken for a colonizer not after these last 400 hundred years NO. Doudou Thiam Born & bred in Senegal and father of African descends kids
Very interesting topic. Want to hear more. I do think someone moving to the continent with a mindset of hiring people for cheap labor, is no different from the slave master. Do your shopping yourself and get a grip on realty your not that wealthy.
Yes but I believe he is also being carefull, Africa present same very unique challenges,you have to be aware of that ,I'm African myself ,grow up in Portugal,I advice anybody going to Africa to make different trips to slowly acommodate there ...Mix with the locals make questions...Do alot of research, corruption,political instability,poverty ,health conditions...It's very part of real life there...
One thing that put me off in these conversations is places or countries like South Africa 🇿🇦 the most industrialized country in Africa with the best infrastructure . quality holiday resorts . even London has nothing on us .our roads. Clinic. Hospitals and hotels are compared with those from Europe and America. So if you want to talk about Africa Ghana 🇲🇲 and Nigeria 🇳🇬 are not the only countries in the continent. Last thing is South Africa 🇿🇦 is the second largest economy in Africa...but since you people don't see any of that ...it's your loss.🙄🤔
The Azuma bloke is a little disappointing Pan Africanism is not a continental African idea it came out of the Caribbean and North America No Marcus Garvey no Kwame Nkrumah, Azikiwe, no Mandela I was a boy in the 70s. Peter Tosh, Bob Marley, the Ras Tafari movement. there was plenty of positive ideas in the past, the Azuma bloke chooses to see whatever he sees.
Not really. He had some valid points and even Elmina agreed. Sometimes diaspora (born) Africans over romanticise the continent or end up acting like colonials. Chibundu Onuzor wrote an excellent article about this topic for The Guardian.
@@KiRetteCouture I didn't say the bloke didn't have valid points I already gave relevant examples, that you conveniently ignored don't understand the bullshit about colonials. Regarding us in the diaspora you need and army to be a colonial entity or at least that's how it was done in the past. I don't hear your interesting views regarding Lebanese? Or Egyptian Arabs or the whites? Just us in the diaspora get the scrutiny. Still looking for the diaspora owned aircraft carriers off African coasts or the all Jamaican military base in Accra. To allay your fears simply lobby your government to throw us who are contient out of Africa so that we can identify you and your mates.
@@Kalydosos what??? Look, here's the bottom line. The diaspora have a lot to offer. Africa is their home too. But they can also be arrogant sometimes. Even Elmina hints at that when she talks about 'common sense.' That scrutiny is necessary if we are to come to an understanding and work together. May be you don't understand the 'colonial BS' because you haven't experienced it. It happens. I think you misunderstand the colonial comparison here. It's more about behaviour than physical force. And seeing as you only just mentioned the Lebanese etc but somehow managed to think I don't mind their unfair advantage, I have lived that ish in Cameroon with the French so I know all about it. It's even more reason why we should behave better towards each other and grow stronger.
@@KiRetteCouture So can the Lebs, Arabs, whites and Chinese they have allot more power financially than African diaspora in Africa. A large African Diaspora majority living in the West have no intentions of coming to Africa that's why I have issues with your logic. There are more of the people I listed in the above in Africa than us Ghana has the biggest population of African diaspora and we don't even make up 1%. So I don't know what there is to scrutinise? They can't do anything the Governments that they are running from can and if you had. Any sense of the brutality we have been through you'd understand that and not attack us.
@@Kalydosos no one is attacking anyone. Not me, at least. However I stand by what I said. It's not about numbers. One diaspora African throwing their weight around is one too many. It makes more sense to go somewhere, connect with people and grow with them. Examples of such people exist. Africans on the continent too have and are still experiencing their share of brutality so this is not about to be a contest because we have a common oppressor. Surely, this should motivate us to work with each other.
Since I Have Kept Up With News, People and Subscribe To Some In Africa, I've Learned A Lot. Wish I Could Go. One Thing Is AN African Young Woman Has Explained A Lot About The Healthcare System. She Mostly Spoke Of The Care Because Of The Staff. Mainly That The Female Nurses Are Very Nasty. Another Thing Is AFRICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT AND CERTAINLY DON'T NEED AMERICAN BLACK PEOPLE TO BEING HATE, CONFUSION N FIGHTING TO THE COUNTRY. ALSO, THEY DON'T AMERICANS COMING THINKING THERE'S JOBS WAITING FOR THEM. THEY NEED THEIR OWN JOBS FOR THEMSELVES. SO IF YOU GO, BE FINANCIALLY PREPARED. TAKE A TRIP. ENJOY
This guy is Rude to the lady....at least she is employing some of her brothers and sisters to help her....he is very rude...that is not her intent....I hope all our brothers and sisters don't regard the Diaspora that way.....very disappointing!! No one corrected him....its almost as if he resents her.
I'm an AA and no matter where I move, I want to be useful. Things don't have to be perfect if we can contribute and help build parts of Africa. Many AA will come with intellectual and monetary support. Not to make the natives feel bad or uncomfortable but to contribute.
Genevieve Baldwin Exactly. I don’t want to go to the motherland and siphon whatever I can get from them. I want to put my two cents in to making it a better place.
People like this young lad don’t want to see Africans grow
Africa unite
Once African countries United, the table will change around for Africa & African people all over the world.
You don't go to Africa for comfort, you go to Africa to make Africa better.
Throughout my life I've lived in three African countries and the US. I prefer life in Africa over the West hands down...I think this global move back to the continent is largely attributed to where we are on the Most High's calendar. All things are returning to their natural order and intended purposes. With that said plus the global village movement creating this sense of a homogeneous culture/people where there are no definitive lines it's forging duality. You find one group that wants to follow the movement and enjoy all it affords and on the other hand there are those of us that cling to our ethnic backgrounds, cultures that do in sense separate us and push towards maturing the African experience.
You are so lucky I think the ANCESTORS are calling the DIASPORA home for those that hear the call from with in. You have an amazing history and culture language when I have a chance will be coming and finding our where my ANCESTORS came from!
Myriam Pierre Thank you much for your words hey!! Yes, you’re correct the ancestors are calling their children home actively, one just needs to be in tune with the spiritual clock/calendar of the Most High. Answer the call and allow the Ancestors to hide you home, they’re always speaking to and assisting us!
Great discussion. My husband is from Ghana and we are moving there next year. This definitely opened my eyes and made me more aware of my perceptions and expectations. Thank you.
YOUR IN-LAWS WILL WELCOME AND BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH THEM IN GHANA.
The brother in the purple sweater is speaking from a jealous position, an indirect passive aggressive position. Bottom line he’s jealous masking it in intellectual debate. He’s right about cultural immersion though. Look, from the outside looking in, it’s the stagnant and crowded western economies that has been built to shut out the diaspora permanently has put gasoline on the conversation. Living in Africa part time, investing full time as an entrepreneur is another option. Also, the branding of the continent has drastically improved. Imagine an African Dream. 🙌🏾
What a lame analysis? Did you say jealous? Weird!
Azu was super disrespectful to Elvina. The host should have intervened and put Azu in check. Would he have sat back if he was the target of personal attack?
Instead of arguing his point or perspective, he chose to personally attack Elvina and associate her with European colonizers.
I would have never tolerated his behavior towards a fellow guest.
I agree he's personally attacking her to get his point across. He said she isn't experiencing Africa because she has a driver maid etc. 1. People have grown up in Africa and they have all those things. 2. Africa is different to Europe in the sense that you can't just dive in to things, you can't just go to the the local markets because people will sense that you haven't grown up there and they will finesse you on prices etc. He honestly made no smart points from the beginning to where I stopped watching.
He was a real jerk.
Thank you
I am on my way, started a gas station 2/2019. It is fun and exciting, and it needs to be done.
Excellent conversation with topics raised that maybe uncomfortable to have, but necessary. The diaspora needs to be aware of the issues that may come with returning. Some people may not accept you but I think that most people will. There will always be those that are jealous of your opportunities, wealth, education etc, thats human nature. So, by having this dialogue we can mitigate the problem before hand, so we can move forward and develop Africa. We are in this together.
I think Azu was not fully acknowledging that the economic threshold for having house-help in West Africa is much more within reach. Lots and lots of local people in Ghana, Ivory Coast and Nigeria (very much like in Jamaica) don't have to have much money to hire household assistance.
So sad that he saw Elvina's examples as a reason for going after her for "being like a colonial master." Especially when she was actually making the point that that way of life led her to mix with the people more than if she led a more arm's length, automation-reliant life in the Western world. Repatriating to the Continent should not have to mean taking a vow of austerity.
Anyway, it's good that members of the Diaspora are having this conversation.
When I was in Ghana for four months in 1971,there. Were approximately one hundred African Americans inGhana just in that time period of time.We were fascinated with Africa in the1960sand seventies.
What I There were returnees all over.That one guy is too negative.We must not discourage each other like he is doing.He is dead end.
There are over 10 000 now in ghana
The only lady in the panel seems to have a good grasp of the issue under discussion. For the simple question as to why are African/ black people moving back lately, his response is too vague, whereas the lady hit the point on the head- knowledgeable she is.
Azu is correct about saying you need to do your research before going to live there and he was not attacking the woman when he said she was living that lifestyle but most people who return to Africa, don’t live like that with a driver and a housekeeper. Azu is keeping things real. You can’t keep blaming the media.
Attraction is superficial. Africa offers peace, independence and whatever comfort you can afford. Living "surviving" in western countries will never provide peace as a hunan being. Many blacks in western countries are infatuated with a racial power structure they will never be fully accepted in.
There is nothing like living 'African'; poverty and suffering are not actually an African way of life.
Thank you
The reason why I personally think black people from the diaspora going back to Africa is business & the rise in racism in Europe & America & South America.
If we talk of Digital money, Africa is the pioneer
Zimbabwe has thrived in eco money for years🎉
It's so much more than just what I'm hearing from this panel. It's like I can see the mental fog they are struggling with.
Especially the guy in purple...smh
This is exactly why we set up the AfricanDiaspora Political Action Committee (ADPAC) www.adpac.net based on the tenets of Powernomics to exclusively benefit African Diasporan socio economic advancement.
The guy in the purple shirt on the end would like to tailor everyone's experience back to the continent to what he thinks their experience should be. He's forgetting that those diasporans who choose to have maids, drivers, cooks etc are creating jobs for those individuals.
He knows that even a lot of local Africans have all all of that too
The sharing of information, the invitation, understanding shared issues, what can share and teach each other.
Azu Nwachukw as the only non Westernised panel member was BANG on the money in his comments.
The ignorance oozing from this nigerian dude.....😂😂😂
His thought process is just wanting.
This is an interesting watch. All the speakers had valid points, i must say; but I was particularly intrigued by what the speaker, Azu said. He highlighted critical points most returnees would not have considered before making the big move. He's one to look out for on the show. I look forward to more shows like this. Good job guys.
Ok. My purpose wanting to live in Ancestral Africa; to support the economy, to volunteer skills and service for those needing assistance, to participate in athletic activity, to learn planting and farming. To live where I'm not considered 3/5 human since my race is the majority. To live where the country is not anti-family as western cultures are. I applaud Kenya for not compromising on procreation values and Laws of Nature.
@@Blakademik Have not moved or visited yet getting "house in order." Distance running for me is a lifestyle and passion Kenya is called the mecca.
ABSOLUTELY. STAND TO WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES
lOVE IT ...KEEP IT COMING
That igbo guy would not say anything good about Nigeria .Few Africans want to go back home if those leaders put things in order.
The governments of Africa sent out invitations to come home...... plus Africans in America talk to African Americans and tell us to at least visit
Great video 👍!
Azu, thank you! So much to navigate. The Cameroonian g'vt is still not committed to its diaspora. This debate was kind of hilarious.
Excellent video
The "colonizer comment " was out the line, disrespectful, and a complete lack of emo-intillenge, historical perspective and LOVE- every one need to understand that interaction should must be "on the level" | but NO you can not say to am African descent woman who is making the move back into the continent that she can be mistaken for a colonizer not after these last 400 hundred years NO. Doudou Thiam Born & bred in Senegal and father of African descends kids
We all don't need to climb an economic social ladder, investing, the dollar chase.
Very interesting topic. Want to hear more. I do think someone moving to the continent with a mindset of hiring people for cheap labor, is no different from the slave master. Do your shopping yourself and get a grip on realty your not that wealthy.
shy not agreed
It isn't the music
Disrespectful Azu | Sad-level of emo intelligence and historical perspective is Zero
Azu is paranoid...he's not making sense am not feeling him unfortunately his analysis doesn't add up, am shocked all these are coming from An African.
Yes but I believe he is also being carefull, Africa present same very unique challenges,you have to be aware of that ,I'm African myself ,grow up in Portugal,I advice anybody going to Africa to make different trips to slowly acommodate there ...Mix with the locals make questions...Do alot of research, corruption,political instability,poverty ,health conditions...It's very part of real life there...
That Azu is ignorant and don't know what he is talking about.
He said afrobeats that was the reason people started to pay attention to the continent! 🤦🏿♂️
Lmao
One thing that put me off in these conversations is places or countries like South Africa 🇿🇦 the most industrialized country in Africa with the best infrastructure . quality holiday resorts . even London has nothing on us .our roads. Clinic. Hospitals and hotels are compared with those from Europe and America. So if you want to talk about Africa Ghana 🇲🇲 and Nigeria 🇳🇬 are not the only countries in the continent. Last thing is South Africa 🇿🇦 is the second largest economy in Africa...but since you people don't see any of that ...it's your loss.🙄🤔
Go build up Africa. Visit for yourself.
Damn. Thats alotta hate from the Nigerian dude.
The Azuma bloke is a little disappointing Pan Africanism is not a continental African idea it came out of the Caribbean and North America No Marcus Garvey no Kwame Nkrumah, Azikiwe, no Mandela I was a boy in the 70s. Peter Tosh, Bob Marley, the Ras Tafari movement. there was plenty of positive ideas in the past, the Azuma bloke chooses to see whatever he sees.
Not really. He had some valid points and even Elmina agreed. Sometimes diaspora (born) Africans over romanticise the continent or end up acting like colonials. Chibundu Onuzor wrote an excellent article about this topic for The Guardian.
@@KiRetteCouture I didn't say the bloke didn't have valid points I already gave relevant examples, that you conveniently ignored don't understand the bullshit about colonials. Regarding us in the diaspora you need and army to be a colonial entity or at least that's how it was done in the past.
I don't hear your interesting views regarding Lebanese? Or Egyptian Arabs or the whites? Just us in the diaspora get the scrutiny. Still looking for the diaspora owned aircraft carriers off African coasts or the all Jamaican military base in Accra. To allay your fears simply lobby your government to throw us who are contient out of Africa so that we can identify you and your mates.
@@Kalydosos what??? Look, here's the bottom line. The diaspora have a lot to offer. Africa is their home too. But they can also be arrogant sometimes. Even Elmina hints at that when she talks about 'common sense.' That scrutiny is necessary if we are to come to an understanding and work together. May be you don't understand the 'colonial BS' because you haven't experienced it. It happens. I think you misunderstand the colonial comparison here. It's more about behaviour than physical force. And seeing as you only just mentioned the Lebanese etc but somehow managed to think I don't mind their unfair advantage, I have lived that ish in Cameroon with the French so I know all about it. It's even more reason why we should behave better towards each other and grow stronger.
@@KiRetteCouture So can the Lebs, Arabs, whites and Chinese they have allot more power financially than African diaspora in Africa. A large African Diaspora majority living in the West have no intentions of coming to Africa that's why I have issues with your logic.
There are more of the people I listed in the above in Africa than us Ghana has the biggest population of African diaspora and we don't even make up 1%. So I don't know what there is to scrutinise? They can't do anything the Governments that they are running from can and if you had. Any sense of the brutality we have been through you'd understand that and not attack us.
@@Kalydosos no one is attacking anyone. Not me, at least. However I stand by what I said. It's not about numbers. One diaspora African throwing their weight around is one too many. It makes more sense to go somewhere, connect with people and grow with them. Examples of such people exist. Africans on the continent too have and are still experiencing their share of brutality so this is not about to be a contest because we have a common oppressor. Surely, this should motivate us to work with each other.
Since I Have Kept Up With News, People and Subscribe To Some In Africa, I've Learned A Lot. Wish I Could Go. One Thing Is AN African Young Woman Has Explained A Lot About The Healthcare System. She Mostly Spoke Of The Care Because Of The Staff. Mainly That The Female Nurses Are Very Nasty. Another Thing Is AFRICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT AND CERTAINLY DON'T NEED AMERICAN BLACK PEOPLE TO BEING HATE, CONFUSION N FIGHTING TO THE COUNTRY. ALSO, THEY DON'T AMERICANS COMING THINKING THERE'S JOBS WAITING FOR THEM. THEY NEED THEIR OWN JOBS FOR THEMSELVES. SO IF YOU GO, BE FINANCIALLY PREPARED. TAKE A TRIP. ENJOY
This guy is Rude to the lady....at least she is employing some of her brothers and sisters to help her....he is very rude...that is not her intent....I hope all our brothers and sisters don't regard the Diaspora that way.....very disappointing!! No one corrected him....its almost as if he resents her.
I don’t think he was being rude. He was giving his opinion as someone who was born in Africa and has lived there.
I sensed that too...