the fun part is that all the books set after it in the enterprise line of books go out of their way to get rid of all the stuff in this finale. Like having Tucker actually be alive due to section 31 and having the federation not actually being formed yet since well the Earth-romulan war has not happened yet either.
@@Nostripe361 Yes, the official canon rewrites to erase this horror continue to this day. It was, without exception, the worst, most unpardonable Star Trek episode of any televised series in history. I can only assume someone high up really, really hated this series.
It interfered with the real story and killed off Trip. The parts w/o the holoprogramme were not bad. Cut it out and have Trip live and it would have been better. The bit about the scene between Troi-Data and the Pegsus story were non-sequiturs. T'Pol was not even told about the fake death scene-it's likely Archer and the others know she'd try to talk Trip out of the mission so maybe that's why Archer didn't give her the note by Trip til right before the speech. You can see the look in her rounded eyes and know she was surprised before Archer hugs her. They holoprogramme cut off why and what happened to her and Trip as well as the speech itself.
Trip's death was so bad, that one of the novels retconned it so that it was all part of a plan by Archer to fake Trip's death so he could go undercover as a Romulan (it makes sense, trust me).
I think for the very first time in Star Treks history, the entire fan base should agree on one thing. "These are the Voyages" is so bad it shouldn't be considered cannon.
somecallmejames Yeah, I'm not much for major retcons and for considering novels as conon. I make an exception for Trip's death. It's the only thing that makes "These are the Voyages…" being a _TNG_ hologram rather than a true _Ent_ episode even a little stomachable for me; Trip dieing is still the "official" story in the 24th century, so that's the history as Riker and the computer know it. P.S. And even then, just barely able to stomach it if I think of it that way.
The reasons, if not a defense, of "These Are the Voyages": The show's cancellation was announced rather suddenly, just as they were beginning to hash out plans for Season 5 (which, yay, would have been rather Shran-centric, but boo, would have revealed T'Pol as part Romulan.) With short notice, they had to slap together a series finale when they'd been planning a season finale. So they leant into something that had happened in all the sequels. The first episode of TNG shows Dr. McCoy. The first episode of DS9 has Sisko confront Picard (which was quite effective and rather necessary.) The first episode of Voyager is set partly on DS9, in Quark's, no less. So they wanted to give us a similar structure, with the challenge being that ENT was set before all the other shows, meaning they couldn't have given us an opener as the other series had had. So they were playing off precedent. They just did a horrible job of it.
Episode 3. Very first M class planet and he immediately launches an away mission, including himself. No probes, drones or even extra scans from space. Unlike the last episodes, he had time to be cautious. It felt like his idea was explore new worlds, was find new tourist spots. Not a good start.
It was the sole reason why I felt capable of grinding through all the long walks to the various daily objectives on New Romulus, just such a perfectly serene theme.
The worst thing about "Two Days and Two Nights" is how they spend THREE episodes building up to Risa, and then when they finally get there we get... that.
I love " 2 days and 2 nights in Raisa" We had a blast gambling and drinking and gambling and drinking and cavorting and drinking and sweet-talking the alien "Ladies" and drinking and retching and drinking and playing chicken with a photon torpedo we rigged to play "federation roulette" and drinking and disarming the photon torpedo and drinking after we had to emergency beam it out and drinking hoping Star Fleet wouldn't notice a missing photon torpedo from our automatic database update and drinking while we got chewed-out by that huge Admiral with the brown and purple mole on his right forehead and drinking to celebrate that we were not being sent to the brig. Man o man, what a fun time. The hangover was worth the excitement. It will make a great story to tell over , what else, Drinks!!!
Personally I like the first two seasons of Enterprise more then the last two. As a Trekkie you had to love this series, because lots of things are visualized that are only mentioned in previous series of the franchise. Also it focused more on the "discovery" aspect of the show. This whole exploration thing was new for humanity, and the crew of the NX-01 are the very first humans who are going that far. I also loved the intro. I was kind of sad that the show was hated by the majority of viewers. I think they wanted something in the TNG time period (or slightly beyond). But really: After Nemesis they had no option. All the enemies the Federation faced were defeated. Peace with the Klingons, alliance with the Romulans (after Shinzons death), the Dominion nearly destroyed, the Borg highly damaged by the nano virus,... hell, even Species 8472 had no chance against the Voyager... The only episode you mentioned I struggle with is "These are the voyages", because I find it inadequate to have characters from another series in the last episode of Enterprise. The cast of Enterprise was good, and they did not deserve that. Enterprise was not that bad, but I as I wrote earlier, I think the spectators wanted something else. However I dont like Discovery, because of the story telling and all that plot holes.
I'm with you on this point Ascender2306. The first two seasons are about Humanity' s first steps into space beyond the solar system, so its totally plausible that they would have these moments of discovery, trials and set backs as opposed to those critics who say the lack of any major story arc makes it suck.
I agree for the most part. _Enterprise_ was rocky at times, but pretty good and it felt like a true prequel to me. I'm kind of mixed about whether I feel the first two or latter two seasons are better. The last two have far better writing, characterization, pacing, stories, etc. but the first two really hit the exploration and naïvety of humans so well, as you correctly pointed out.
What I did not like about the last two seasons was the whole Xindi-stuff and bad CGI-effects (Insectoids). Personally I would have loved to see more of the Suliban or the Klingons and Romulans. Personally I think that Voyager should have been like the last two seasons of Enterprise. Running short of supplies, modding and repairing the ship with spare parts and scrap with a crew with heavy losses...
@@Gentleman...Driver ~ I liked the intro too. I saw a comment on IMDB (before they got rid of their forums) that said they didn't like it because it sounded too much like the theme song for a show about a small town boy growing up and moving to the big city. When I read that, it made me realize (and reply) that _that_ is exactly what Enterprise was.
I am going to say two things in the defence of my criticism of enterprises's first two seasons. 1) The writers wanted something else with things like that 'Borg' episode in season 1. If you are doing your own thing, do your own thing, don't pretend to have Next Gen episodes (see 2 days 2 nights and the finale). 2) Daniels! While the Time Agency narrative could have been interesting; its execution was not.
Why is nobody talking about Aquisition? The idea that the Ferengi found Starfleet 200 years before first contact and nobody knew it because their sensors happened to be down and the entire crew was blind is the stupidest example of plot convenience I've ever seen. At least the Borg episode made sense, with a tie-in to First Contact and a bit of easily explained time travel. The Ferengi episode is pure stupid.
Lets Have A Discussion That's coz the original concept of the ferengi was changed. 1st thay where to be new a enemy for the federation to deal with. But pepole didn't take them seriously so they changed them to what we know today.
I actually like A Night In Sickbay. Because a few weeks before it was first broadcast in the UK on Sky One, I had a bad day at secondary school, the weather was cold, wet, windy, and dark. I also had a pet Budgie at the time which me and my step father took to the vet to get a check up, and when the vet handled him he screamed blue murder, at the point I broke down in tears because I could not take any more depressing stuff happening that day. A few weeks later A Night In Sickbay broadcast and cheered me up no end.
Star Trek literature actually reversed Trip Tucker's demise, faking the whole thing so he could go undercover in the Romulan Empire and sabotage the development of a faster warp drive. Not canon, but still an entertaining must-read. It all starts with "The Good that Men Do" and continues into the Rise of the Federation novels. I say to hell with the finale and jump right into these books.
Vanishing Point was my choice for the worst. They took Hoshi, an already poorly-written character, and portrayed her as unreasonably meek and emotional. They wrapped up the entire episode as a dream. It's not even train-wreck bad, like Threshold or The Omega Glory. It's just a dumb, limp episode which showed the utter lack of passion and inspiration that Enterprise's production entailed.
Are you sure you have the right episode Jeffery? The episode is bad, I agree but it was not a dream she was actually caught in the pattern buffer I think, so it was blamed on the actual transport system. What ever it was it was a poor episode for an under utilised character (obviously with the exception of the mirror universe episode which gave us Empress Sato).
I thought the episode Dear Doctor, was not only the worst episode of Enterprise by far, but also the worst thing to come out of the entire Star Trek franchise, with nothing else even coming close. That episode was pure evil. I would have been happy to see the entire ship be blown up after that.
Can't believe you didn't include 'Progenitor' or however it's spelled. The episode where Archer goes off on Trip at length for daring to imply that a worlds sex slaves may be entitled to someday dream of their own freedom. Then blames him for the tragic suicide of 1 of the said slaves (Yes they are! Is it forced? Yes? Then yes!) The episode where I would be in the brig for beating the $#@% out of the Captain...
Star Trek: Enterprise was a good show, with an intriguing premise and a LOT of potential. Sadly this potential was wasted in many stagnant episodes which left me with that taste of "already seen, already done". In many cases the basic plot was the same already used in previous TNG and VOY episodes, just with different characters and settings, but basically the same (to mention a few: Vanishing Point; Dawn; Horizon; The Breach; Chosen Realm; Doctor's Orders). This laziness and unwillingness to boldly go "where no previous Trek series has gone before" remain, imho, the main failure of the Berman-Braga management of the show. Aside this, I still like the show as a whole, because there were very good episodes and by the time of the fourth season it was really starting to take a good direction (even if I think that was possible with far less self-referentialism). I always liked the characters, particulary Archer, Trip and Phlox, sadly for many of the others there was not much development and some of them where just left behind (let's say... Travis the Chauffeur).
With the finale episode of Enterprise, i felt they always intended for the series to end with the formation of the federation, but the cancellation cut it short. It would have been nice if enterprise continued for at least two more seasons. Tell the story of the Earth-Romulan War and how that lead to direct formation of the federation. Have a season 5 set up an eventually war with the Romulans and in a season 6 have the actually war and then have these are the voyages, but have it make more sense. And if trip is killed, make it have a larger impact, like I don't now saving the ship from a warp core breech or something along that line (Think Spock in Wrath of Khan). But that is just my opinion.
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but Rowan's criticism that Archer wouldn't apologize is more that a simple apology wasn't enough; the aliens had all kinds of elaborate rituals.
@@synthetic240 it was also after having gone through an elaborate appology for the first "offense." it's that these people seem overly offended and impossible to please
The dark mirror or whatever that episode is about what would happen if humanity stole Vulcan technology at first contact and turned into an evil empire? I only watched halfway and it still made me want to cancel my Netflix subscription it was so bad
Also if you wanted the finale of Enterprise to be a holodeck simulation by Riker, why not have it set during his days as Captain of the USS Titan? That would’ve made much better sense considering the actors age, plus we would’ve seen his new starship on screen for the first time.
Two days and Two Nights had that wonderful moment of Phlox getting woken up by T'Pol bending over him pedantically with her cat suit. Kinda like a Seven of Nine "Resistance is Futile" in Harry Kim's dreams...
As long as you don't mention any of the episodes where the stars have to sit around in Decontamination and oil each other up. That seemed important to plot development. Either that, or it was more proof that Berman/Braga were sexually abusive to their stars for limited payoff.
My least favourite episode was the AIDS analoge one. The disease transmitted through mind melds and the Vulcan response of “it’s a side effect of that lifestyle” That felt too heavy handed for me
Your fifth episode in your outrageously well-reasoned video essay happens to be my favorite template for writing. My work speaks for itself. Volumes. "The Not Good, the Bad and the beyond Bad." Cheers.
Definitely not the worst, Voyager has that slot. The "Threshold" episode where they are seeking Warp-10 speed and Paris and Janeway turn into lizards and mate in a mud hole has to be the worst.
It is only bad because of how it makes the whole series a holographic reenactment. Without out Riker, the Episode would be one if the better ones I think.
It is a terrible series but there is some good in it. Enough perhaps to salvage a bottom 5 rating. We see some historical moments and we get the generational Enterprise flybys with their respective captain overlays. But, you are right, the one character in all of Star Trek I despise is Riker, even more than Wesley. What is worse is that there are two of him. But, the bad part of this episode is that it was a TNG episode and not an E episode. Fans were cheated.
Vox Sola, Acquisition, Oasis, Desert Crossing, The Communicator, Dawn, Extinction, Exile and Observer Effect were all episodes I found cringy. But especially the finale, it reminded me of an old episode of Andromeda! They should have just ended the series with Terra Prime.
The thing that still urks me to this day is how after an entire season of dealing with the Xindi, they get back and then are thrust to WWII, and there's not a peep again about them except for a few throwaway references. What about a peace treaty or something? SOME kind of recognition that there was a serious conflict and that there would be consequences.
Hmm, I'm surprised Precious Cargo isn't on here. Apart from Night in Sickbay it's hands down my worst Enterprise episode. Agree with most of the rest of the list, but think you're a bit harsh on Two Days Two Nights. Sometimes an episode doesn't have to be about much other than just character interactions as far as I'm concerned. The Archer plot was serviceable, Trip and Malcolm's bit was forgettable but gave us some nice bromance that Enterprise was often lacking, and Hoshi's story was genuinely quite sweet. I didn't mind it at all.
@@malefitz6886 it’s been awhile for me watching Enterprise. Was that the episode where Trip has a romantic subplot with a cryogenically kidnapped princess?
While this is "in no particular order," I find it fitting that A Night in Sickbay happens to be #1. What a miserable betrayal of Archer's character. At least "These Are the Voyages" has that moment where Riker consults Holo!Trip after Trip has "died."
Even with the bad episodes, I still liked I better than voyager. Enterprise didn't have any characters that truly annoyed me the way janeway did. And it was great to see how the crew finds their footing in a new world and becomes the leader of the federation in a pretty natural and believable way.
Rogue Planets with life would be such an interesting physical phenomenon, that it was very disappointing that in Enterprise this was just like a normal planet with trees and so on, just at night. LOL. So stupid, even worse than the snail woman.
I think the best way to have TNG ERA characters observe and interact with NX Enterprise crew members would be Section 31 members observe ing the events of Regeneration before the events of Q Who in an attempt to learn more about some similar tech found in a debris field located somewhere in the Neutral Zone. The episode could've been a follow up to Regeneration.
If you go back and watch Trip's death, when he is on the stretcher in sickbay, he winks at Archer and lays down. I had to watch it several times to see what happened there.
The problem with "These are the Voyages" is that it wasn't meant as a series finale, it was supposed to be a season finale. They had plans for a fifth season and there were ideas for further episodes. They were going to have the Romulan War take place which is what Star Trek really should have had and something they tried twice to do including Enterprise. But the show got cancelled which it shouldn't have. One episode I don't particularly like to rewatch is the season 1 episode where Trip gets pregnant, I can't remember it's name.
I think an honorable mention should be "Cogenitor," even if only for being so controversial. Many believe it was one of the worst Star Trek episodes ever, while others think it's perfectly fine. I dislike it because it portrays Archer in such an awful manner, and how he acts so out of character & hypocritical. That chastising of Trip at the end? Coming from Archer, it's a complete joke.
At first I thought there weren’t any shitty episodes of Enterprise from what I remembered. While watching this I was reminded that there were actually a few.
These Are the Voyages could have been a decent mid-season episode and trip should not have died and the series should have continued considering they were building toward the Romulan War
My favourite episode of Enterprise is Doctor's Orders even though it's the same story as the Voyager episode One I love the creepiness of it, the idea that Phlox is at first unaware he's talking to people who aren't real Plus, being all alone in a deserted spaceship is ideal for feelings of paranoia and isolation
I forgot Trip "dies" in Enterprise. The holodeck scene should have been on the Enterprise E, not D. Marina and Johnathan looked a bit too aged to be back on the old D.
"Breaking the Ice" for having Archer endagering the life of two of his crewman because of pride, and being convinced to accept help to their rescue only by an appeal to his pride.
The WORST episode was the last one! It skipped ten years into the future with NO explaination, no promotions for the crew & come to find out it was a Holodeck session that took place during a Next Gen episode!!!
on the bright side, it gave the writers an excuse to retcon Trip's death. Which is weird, the only thing to happen in the episode is an event that in Beta continuity didn't happen... in Beta canon Shran even rejoins the Military
Daedalus was disappointing to me because it didn't involve a Daedalus class ship. Secondly, I chalked the bad acting of the guest star to his disabilities.
That's what we all do, I guess. Which is why I sometimes think "Discovery" is just there to break us. Every week people on the internet go "Oh, but you see these inconsistencies could be explained if they were just ancient Klingons" or "It all takes part in a separate timeline and they will only enter the prime timeline when they leave the Mirror Universe which is why we never heard of Spock's sister before" and shit. And then nope, that a D7, folks. That what they apparently look like in 2256. You know what I mean?
I personally found "These are the Voyages" to be generally a good episode, yes it could have been a Mid-season one, and yes the death of Trip could have been done differently or not at all, they killed off one of the best characters in the show, and yes the episode could have done without the Riker and Deanna holodeck part in it, I agree on that. For me it did not ruine the general feel of the episode, but it could have done without it. The TNG episode "The Pegasus", is one of my favorite episodes, but to see (older) Riker and Deanna trying to play there younger versions, was a bit to much. I would have loved to hear Archers speech , because to my opinion, the whole episode builds up to it, and not to hear it was a let-down for me. The ending however I loved, seeing the Enterprice Nx-01, Enterprice-D and Enterprice fly past with the famous words “These are the Voyages” always makes me come close to tears (sorry if my grammer and spelling is bad)
One of the minor nitpicks I have from “These Are The Voyages” is the way they used stock footage from the TNG episode “Ménage à Troi.” There is a scene in Ten Forward and, as the camera pans, we see Riker and Troi… and then we see a much younger Riker playing 3D chess with the Ferengi.
That last ep WAS terrible. A Total let down to what had been up to that point, a really GOOD developing ST chapter! (S 3 & 4) CBS had a golden opportunity to document 1 of the most pivotal periods in ST 'history', the Earth/Romulan war and the forming of the UFP, and they totally BLEW it!
Sadly, we didn’t get to see the two most pivotal events in Star Trek lore - the Earth/Romulan War and the birth of the Federation - depicted onscreen. Instead, we had to go to the bookshelf in order to find out what might have been, and have it play out in our minds as we read the 9(?) ENT retcon novels. However, at this late date (and considering who’s running Star Trek now) I’m not holding out much hope that we’ll see the Earth/Romulan War and the birth of the Federation depicted onscreen, either in a live-action or animated miniseries, anytime soon.
One thing I've never understood about space travel shows is why the protagonists are always apologizing to some new species, but those people NEVER feel a need to apologize, or even consider that some of THEIR behavior may be offensive. I mean, imagine if these were klingons they were dealing with, and they caught an attitude. That planet would become a smoldering dead zone, offense and all, and the Klingons would high five each other afterwards. I mean, is ass kissing a required course in Starfleet Academy?
The worst was the final one. It was insulting to both the regular cast and the viewers to make Riker and Troi so central to the story. One of the worst endings to any series.
“Dear Doctor” - I hated this one so much, it flipped my perception of the show from “okay, with some problems” to “terrible, with some good points”. It never recovered.
This is interesting. I loved Enterprise overall and think it is heavily underrated. And especially the episode you hate is one of my favorites. First, because Flox plays a major role in it and second, because it shows the struggle Archer goes through when making a tough and - in my opinion - in the end right decision.
When I rewatched Enterprise a few years ago I decided... this theme is notably bad, so I looked up a list of top 10 - 20 worst TV show themes. I got to #2 and I was disappointed that somehow ENT was just so unwatched the maker of the list didn't know it existed to add it to the list. Oh wait it was #1. I laughed my head off.
Hey! The Enterprise theme isn't THAT bad, and it sure as hell isn't as embarassing AAAAASSSSSSS...... *A BRITISH TAR IS A SOARING SOUL! AS FREE AS A MOUNTAIN BIRD! HIS ENERGETIC FIST SHOULD BE READY TO RESIST A **_DIC-TA-TOR-IAL_** WORTH!*
What, "A British Tar" from Star Trek: Insurrection/THE *WORST* FILM TO BEAR THE STAR TREK NAME?! Nah, I'm joking. It's obvious you're talking about the Enterprise theme. P.S. His Nose Should *PANT,* and His Lips Should *CURL~*
No. *Wrong.* Stuff HAPPENS in Star Trek Beyond, the new characters (Krall and Jaylah) are badass, it feels like the original series, and it doesn't openly violate Roddenberry's Ideals. Star Trek: Insurrection is literally just action, cringe-worthy dialogue, awful comedy and lousy special effects, with the lamest villains of the franchise (The Son'a) who you end up ROOTING for when you realise this film is set during the _Dominion War_ arc on Deep Space Nine, awful supporting characters in the form of the smug, self-centered Baku, embarrassing moments that will put Uhura's naked fan-dance in Star Trek V to shame, and an anti-technology aesop which completely VIOLATES the principles of Star Trek. It IS the worst Star Trek film.
its a case of relativity. I mean outside T'Pol who are you putting above him? Merryweather is just there. Reed is Reed. Archer is acceptable. Phlox sometimes really wants to be vented into space (Dear Doctor, fuck you). Hoshi is fine.
Extinction and Hatchery are two episodes that should have been on this list. Extinction gives These are the Voyages a run for its money as the absolute worst.
Swish Fish...That woman he had the romance with came back in a later episode, of course- But I thought it didn't amount to much. They could have made more of it.
Your first episode is the one that got me looking to see what people thought of as the worst episodes. I just picked up the series on DVD cheap at a thrift store and started rewatching it. I came to a night in sickbay and found it completely cringeworthy. I didn't mind the sick dog part, but the Dr stuff and even worst the T'Pol stuff was almost unwatchable. A female Vulcan crew member was a great idea, but between her outfits and mannerisms, I had trouble accepting her. (BTW, I liked 7 0f 9 because she was written well and at least there was a Borg excuse for her catsuit). I actually didn't mind Rogue Planet, but I didn't focus on the romance aspect and more on the hunters, especially since I recognized the voice of one of the actors from an episode of Babylon 5. Telepathic shapeshifters is kind of a cool idea. I agree, 2 days and 2 nights wasn't great. I guess it kind of hits you with the opposite of what you expected for a Riza outing, but it could have been more. I haven't gotten to season 4 yet, but I'm happy to see the finale in the worst list. What a insult that was. So here I am 6 years later watching this video because I thought A Night in Sickbay was the cringiest Star Trek episode I'd ever seen.
"The Andorian Incident" was what made me quit _Enterprise._ Archer rats out Vulcan, Earth's only intergalactic ally, to their sworn enemy and gets no repercussions for it. The show treats it like he was right to do that. I just could not watch the show after that since I saw it as too immature. I'm lucky since I missed the rest of these awful episodes.
my biggest problem with this show was this... t'pols uniform... or lack thereof... when she joined up with starfleet, she just put some stickers on her pink outfit thing she was already wearing for a year...
Episodes like "These Are The Voyages." is exactly why the series failed. It was pure crap. Just like the entire Xindi arc. Just like how Vulcans suddenly think that humans stink with no mention of it anywhere in trek beforehand. And ironically, they gave us NEW when they should have been exploring the OLD. They didn't even try that until the fourth season and by then it was too late. Season four, should have been season three. But they gave us the Xindi, another "new" race instead. That probe that cut a swath through earth, should have been a unidentified Romulan device. A proper precursor to the Romulan War. But NOPE! The writers were clueless as to what the trek fans expected and did not understand the era they were writing about until it was too late.
They honestly should have set it during Riker's first mission on the Titan. It would've allowed for the actors being...well...older. And it could've added some needed drama.
I actually like "A Night in Sickbay", mainly cuz Porthos is central to the plot. Definitely agree about "These Are the Voyages..." though. I love the relationship between Riker & Troi, but why did they have to be in the ENT finale? Even Jolene Blalock wasn't thrilled about that. Also, why have it set during a TNG episode with Archer and crew only appearing in the holodeck? 11 years after TNG ended, Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis had clearly aged a bit during that time. So why not have their plot set sometime after Nemesis, which was released 3 years earlier? And I actually thought that's what it was gonna be when I heard Riker & Troi were in the ENT finale.
"These are the Voyages" is the only TV show I know of that reduced the main cast to the level of Guest Stars 😠
Agreed that pissed me off. What a bad last episode.
the fun part is that all the books set after it in the enterprise line of books go out of their way to get rid of all the stuff in this finale. Like having Tucker actually be alive due to section 31 and having the federation not actually being formed yet since well the Earth-romulan war has not happened yet either.
@@Nostripe361 Yes, the official canon rewrites to erase this horror continue to this day.
It was, without exception, the worst, most unpardonable Star Trek episode of any televised series in history. I can only assume someone high up really, really hated this series.
The last two episodes of Green Acres were used as backdoor pilots for other potential series. Neither succeeded.
It interfered with the real story and killed off Trip. The parts w/o the holoprogramme were not bad. Cut it out and have Trip live and it would have been better. The bit about the scene between Troi-Data and the Pegsus story were non-sequiturs. T'Pol was not even told about the fake death scene-it's likely Archer and the others know she'd try to talk Trip out of the mission so maybe that's why Archer didn't give her the note by Trip til right before the speech. You can see the look in her rounded eyes and know she was surprised before Archer hugs her. They holoprogramme cut off why and what happened to her and Trip as well as the speech itself.
Trip's death was so bad, that one of the novels retconned it so that it was all part of a plan by Archer to fake Trip's death so he could go undercover as a Romulan (it makes sense, trust me).
I think for the very first time in Star Treks history, the entire fan base should agree on one thing. "These are the Voyages" is so bad it shouldn't be considered cannon.
Seems to have stuck too, with more recent books by Christopher Bennett running with the idea...
somecallmejames yes, the post finale novels are better with Trip in them.
somecallmejames Yeah, I'm not much for major retcons and for considering novels as conon. I make an exception for Trip's death. It's the only thing that makes "These are the Voyages…" being a _TNG_ hologram rather than a true _Ent_ episode even a little stomachable for me; Trip dieing is still the "official" story in the 24th century, so that's the history as Riker and the computer know it.
P.S. And even then, just barely able to stomach it if I think of it that way.
I'd read that, sounds good
I watched this whole series on Netflix and was so intrigued by Chef. Who the hell IS it? Why do we never see them?
Oh. OK.
The reasons, if not a defense, of "These Are the Voyages": The show's cancellation was announced rather suddenly, just as they were beginning to hash out plans for Season 5 (which, yay, would have been rather Shran-centric, but boo, would have revealed T'Pol as part Romulan.) With short notice, they had to slap together a series finale when they'd been planning a season finale.
So they leant into something that had happened in all the sequels. The first episode of TNG shows Dr. McCoy. The first episode of DS9 has Sisko confront Picard (which was quite effective and rather necessary.) The first episode of Voyager is set partly on DS9, in Quark's, no less. So they wanted to give us a similar structure, with the challenge being that ENT was set before all the other shows, meaning they couldn't have given us an opener as the other series had had. So they were playing off precedent. They just did a horrible job of it.
Episode 3. Very first M class planet and he immediately launches an away mission, including himself. No probes, drones or even extra scans from space. Unlike the last episodes, he had time to be cautious. It felt like his idea was explore new worlds, was find new tourist spots.
Not a good start.
I love the use of ST:O's music as background music for these videos - they add a nice mellow trek feel without being distracting.
It was the sole reason why I felt capable of grinding through all the long walks to the various daily objectives on New Romulus, just such a perfectly serene theme.
The worst thing about "Two Days and Two Nights" is how they spend THREE episodes building up to Risa, and then when they finally get there we get... that.
I love " 2 days and 2 nights in Raisa" We had a blast gambling and drinking and gambling and drinking and cavorting and drinking and sweet-talking the alien "Ladies" and drinking and retching and drinking and playing chicken with a photon torpedo we rigged to play "federation roulette" and drinking and disarming the photon torpedo and drinking after we had to emergency beam it out and drinking hoping Star Fleet wouldn't notice a missing photon torpedo from our automatic database update and drinking while we got chewed-out by that huge Admiral with the brown and purple mole on his right forehead and drinking to celebrate that we were not being sent to the brig. Man o man, what a fun time. The hangover was worth the excitement. It will make a great story to tell over , what else, Drinks!!!
Personally I like the first two seasons of Enterprise more then the last two. As a Trekkie you had to love this series, because lots of things are visualized that are only mentioned in previous series of the franchise. Also it focused more on the "discovery" aspect of the show. This whole exploration thing was new for humanity, and the crew of the NX-01 are the very first humans who are going that far. I also loved the intro. I was kind of sad that the show was hated by the majority of viewers. I think they wanted something in the TNG time period (or slightly beyond). But really: After Nemesis they had no option. All the enemies the Federation faced were defeated. Peace with the Klingons, alliance with the Romulans (after Shinzons death), the Dominion nearly destroyed, the Borg highly damaged by the nano virus,... hell, even Species 8472 had no chance against the Voyager...
The only episode you mentioned I struggle with is "These are the voyages", because I find it inadequate to have characters from another series in the last episode of Enterprise. The cast of Enterprise was good, and they did not deserve that.
Enterprise was not that bad, but I as I wrote earlier, I think the spectators wanted something else. However I dont like Discovery, because of the story telling and all that plot holes.
I'm with you on this point Ascender2306. The first two seasons are about Humanity' s first steps into space beyond the solar system, so its totally plausible that they would have these moments of discovery, trials and set backs as opposed to those critics who say the lack of any major story arc makes it suck.
I agree for the most part. _Enterprise_ was rocky at times, but pretty good and it felt like a true prequel to me.
I'm kind of mixed about whether I feel the first two or latter two seasons are better. The last two have far better writing, characterization, pacing, stories, etc. but the first two really hit the exploration and naïvety of humans so well, as you correctly pointed out.
What I did not like about the last two seasons was the whole Xindi-stuff and bad CGI-effects (Insectoids). Personally I would have loved to see more of the Suliban or the Klingons and Romulans. Personally I think that Voyager should have been like the last two seasons of Enterprise. Running short of supplies, modding and repairing the ship with spare parts and scrap with a crew with heavy losses...
@@Gentleman...Driver ~ I liked the intro too. I saw a comment on IMDB (before they got rid of their forums) that said they didn't like it because it sounded too much like the theme song for a show about a small town boy growing up and moving to the big city. When I read that, it made me realize (and reply) that _that_ is exactly what Enterprise was.
I am going to say two things in the defence of my criticism of enterprises's first two seasons.
1) The writers wanted something else with things like that 'Borg' episode in season 1. If you are doing your own thing, do your own thing, don't pretend to have Next Gen episodes (see 2 days 2 nights and the finale).
2) Daniels! While the Time Agency narrative could have been interesting; its execution was not.
Why is nobody talking about Aquisition? The idea that the Ferengi found Starfleet 200 years before first contact and nobody knew it because their sensors happened to be down and the entire crew was blind is the stupidest example of plot convenience I've ever seen. At least the Borg episode made sense, with a tie-in to First Contact and a bit of easily explained time travel. The Ferengi episode is pure stupid.
That's not surprising. Although, the idea of defending Berman made me throw up a little.
Everything about the Ferengi is stupid but I take your point.
I actually loved that episode.
Also phlox seems to know quite a bit about Tribbles yet in the original series they know nothing. Nothing put in a medical database before.
Lets Have A Discussion That's coz the original concept of the ferengi was changed. 1st thay where to be new a enemy for the federation to deal with. But pepole didn't take them seriously so they changed them to what we know today.
I actually like A Night In Sickbay. Because a few weeks before it was first broadcast in the UK on Sky One, I had a bad day at secondary school, the weather was cold, wet, windy, and dark. I also had a pet Budgie at the time which me and my step father took to the vet to get a check up, and when the vet handled him he screamed blue murder, at the point I broke down in tears because I could not take any more depressing stuff happening that day. A few weeks later A Night In Sickbay broadcast and cheered me up no end.
Yeah, I liked that episode and anyone who loves their animal companions could identify with it.
Dear Doctor should be on here. That episode disgusted me to no end, and made me genuinely question the validity of the Prime Directive.
Dear Doctor was one of my favorites.
Why I liked Enterprise overall, I have to agree that it missed the mark often.
Oh god, 'Two Days and Two Nights' might as well have been called 'How Hoshi got her groove on' - and it would have been more entertaining
The only goos thing that came out of We are the Voyages is a throwaway joke in the last episode of Lower Decks Season 1. That is it
Star Trek literature actually reversed Trip Tucker's demise, faking the whole thing so he could go undercover in the Romulan Empire and sabotage the development of a faster warp drive. Not canon, but still an entertaining must-read. It all starts with "The Good that Men Do" and continues into the Rise of the Federation novels. I say to hell with the finale and jump right into these books.
Vanishing Point was my choice for the worst. They took Hoshi, an already poorly-written character, and portrayed her as unreasonably meek and emotional. They wrapped up the entire episode as a dream. It's not even train-wreck bad, like Threshold or The Omega Glory. It's just a dumb, limp episode which showed the utter lack of passion and inspiration that Enterprise's production entailed.
Are you sure you have the right episode Jeffery? The episode is bad, I agree but it was not a dream she was actually caught in the pattern buffer I think, so it was blamed on the actual transport system. What ever it was it was a poor episode for an under utilised character (obviously with the exception of the mirror universe episode which gave us Empress Sato).
I thought the episode Dear Doctor, was not only the worst episode of Enterprise by far, but also the worst thing to come out of the entire Star Trek franchise, with nothing else even coming close. That episode was pure evil. I would have been happy to see the entire ship be blown up after that.
In These are the Voyages i always thought the cast phoned it in because they hated it so much as well.
Can't believe you didn't include 'Progenitor' or however it's spelled. The episode where Archer goes off on Trip at length for daring to imply that a worlds sex slaves may be entitled to someday dream of their own freedom.
Then blames him for the tragic suicide of 1 of the said slaves (Yes they are! Is it forced? Yes? Then yes!)
The episode where I would be in the brig for beating the $#@% out of the Captain...
Star Trek: Enterprise was a good show, with an intriguing premise and a LOT of potential. Sadly this potential was wasted in many stagnant episodes which left me with that taste of "already seen, already done". In many cases the basic plot was the same already used in previous TNG and VOY episodes, just with different characters and settings, but basically the same (to mention a few: Vanishing Point; Dawn; Horizon; The Breach; Chosen Realm; Doctor's Orders). This laziness and unwillingness to boldly go "where no previous Trek series has gone before" remain, imho, the main failure of the Berman-Braga management of the show. Aside this, I still like the show as a whole, because there were very good episodes and by the time of the fourth season it was really starting to take a good direction (even if I think that was possible with far less self-referentialism). I always liked the characters, particulary Archer, Trip and Phlox, sadly for many of the others there was not much development and some of them where just left behind (let's say... Travis the Chauffeur).
With the finale episode of Enterprise, i felt they always intended for the series to end with the formation of the federation, but the cancellation cut it short. It would have been nice if enterprise continued for at least two more seasons. Tell the story of the Earth-Romulan War and how that lead to direct formation of the federation. Have a season 5 set up an eventually war with the Romulans and in a season 6 have the actually war and then have these are the voyages, but have it make more sense. And if trip is killed, make it have a larger impact, like I don't now saving the ship from a warp core breech or something along that line (Think Spock in Wrath of Khan). But that is just my opinion.
Confession: I thought "A night in Sick bay" was funny it reminds me of star trek 5 when it tries to take itself serious lol
Great episode. super funny with Phlox telling the captain he should check his intentions towards T'Pol
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but Rowan's criticism that Archer wouldn't apologize is more that a simple apology wasn't enough; the aliens had all kinds of elaborate rituals.
@@synthetic240 it was also after having gone through an elaborate appology for the first "offense." it's that these people seem overly offended and impossible to please
A night in sickbay - the episode I originally liked until someone pointed out how childish Archer was being and then, yeah, it's bad.
2 days and 2 nights had sleepy phlox and Trip and Reed getting mugged. Its a good little comedy episode.
The dark mirror or whatever that episode is about what would happen if humanity stole Vulcan technology at first contact and turned into an evil empire? I only watched halfway and it still made me want to cancel my Netflix subscription it was so bad
Also if you wanted the finale of Enterprise to be a holodeck simulation by Riker, why not have it set during his days as Captain of the USS Titan? That would’ve made much better sense considering the actors age, plus we would’ve seen his new starship on screen for the first time.
Who picked out that Star Trek Enterprise theme? One of the biggest disappoints in all of Star Trek.
It was probably composed by the producer's cousin.
Two days and Two Nights had that wonderful moment of Phlox getting woken up by T'Pol bending over him pedantically with her cat suit. Kinda like a Seven of Nine "Resistance is Futile" in Harry Kim's dreams...
As long as you don't mention any of the episodes where the stars have to sit around in Decontamination and oil each other up. That seemed important to plot development. Either that, or it was more proof that Berman/Braga were sexually abusive to their stars for limited payoff.
"Dear Doctor" and "Vanishing Point" come to mind.
My least favourite episode was the AIDS analoge one.
The disease transmitted through mind melds and the Vulcan response of “it’s a side effect of that lifestyle”
That felt too heavy handed for me
Callan Bingley agree that it’s the worst episode
Your take on it was spot on. Unfortunately you spurred me to watch this train wreck all over again. Thanks bro...
Your fifth episode in your outrageously well-reasoned video essay happens to be my favorite template for writing. My work speaks for itself. Volumes. "The Not Good, the Bad and the beyond Bad."
Cheers.
"These Are The Voyages" is not only the worst Enterprise episode, it's the worst Star Trek episode of all time. not debatable.
...Threshold tho
I wouldn't call it the worst. There are a lot worse episodes in both Enterprise and Star Trek as a whole. But it was pretty bad.
Definitely not the worst, Voyager has that slot. The "Threshold" episode where they are seeking Warp-10 speed and Paris and Janeway turn into lizards and mate in a mud hole has to be the worst.
It is only bad because of how it makes the whole series a holographic reenactment. Without out Riker, the Episode would be one if the better ones I think.
It is a terrible series but there is some good in it. Enough perhaps to salvage a bottom 5 rating. We see some historical moments and we get the generational Enterprise flybys with their respective captain overlays. But, you are right, the one character in all of Star Trek I despise is Riker, even more than Wesley. What is worse is that there are two of him.
But, the bad part of this episode is that it was a TNG episode and not an E episode. Fans were cheated.
Vox Sola, Acquisition, Oasis, Desert Crossing, The Communicator, Dawn, Extinction, Exile and Observer Effect were all episodes I found cringy. But especially the finale, it reminded me of an old episode of Andromeda! They should have just ended the series with Terra Prime.
The thing that still urks me to this day is how after an entire season of dealing with the Xindi, they get back and then are thrust to WWII, and there's not a peep again about them except for a few throwaway references. What about a peace treaty or something? SOME kind of recognition that there was a serious conflict and that there would be consequences.
Hmm, I'm surprised Precious Cargo isn't on here. Apart from Night in Sickbay it's hands down my worst Enterprise episode. Agree with most of the rest of the list, but think you're a bit harsh on Two Days Two Nights. Sometimes an episode doesn't have to be about much other than just character interactions as far as I'm concerned. The Archer plot was serviceable, Trip and Malcolm's bit was forgettable but gave us some nice bromance that Enterprise was often lacking, and Hoshi's story was genuinely quite sweet. I didn't mind it at all.
Totally with you with all you said. Precious Cargo is for me the worst one by far.
@@malefitz6886 it’s been awhile for me watching Enterprise. Was that the episode where Trip has a romantic subplot with a cryogenically kidnapped princess?
@@Nostripe361 Yeah, that's the one.
While this is "in no particular order," I find it fitting that A Night in Sickbay happens to be #1. What a miserable betrayal of Archer's character. At least "These Are the Voyages" has that moment where Riker consults Holo!Trip after Trip has "died."
3:32 I got a little sad because she was a beautiful woman and a charming actress. She died far too young :( Kellie Waymire
Even with the bad episodes, I still liked I better than voyager. Enterprise didn't have any characters that truly annoyed me the way janeway did. And it was great to see how the crew finds their footing in a new world and becomes the leader of the federation in a pretty natural and believable way.
Rogue Planets with life would be such an interesting physical phenomenon, that it was very disappointing that in Enterprise this was just like a normal planet with trees and so on, just at night. LOL. So stupid, even worse than the snail woman.
I think the best way to have TNG ERA characters observe and interact with NX Enterprise crew members would be Section 31 members observe ing the events of Regeneration before the events of Q Who in an attempt to learn more about some similar tech found in a debris field located somewhere in the Neutral Zone. The episode could've been a follow up to Regeneration.
If you go back and watch Trip's death, when he is on the stretcher in sickbay, he winks at Archer and lays down. I had to watch it several times to see what happened there.
The problem with "These are the Voyages" is that it wasn't meant as a series finale, it was supposed to be a season finale. They had plans for a fifth season and there were ideas for further episodes. They were going to have the Romulan War take place which is what Star Trek really should have had and something they tried twice to do including Enterprise. But the show got cancelled which it shouldn't have.
One episode I don't particularly like to rewatch is the season 1 episode where Trip gets pregnant, I can't remember it's name.
Did you forget about 'Unexpected'? If so, I'm sorry for reminding you.
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I was 100% certain that episode would be on here. Not only is it silly, but nothing about the biology makes any sense at all.
The one where Hoshi dreams she is invisible should have been on this list.
Really anything that focuses on her. She was a terrible actress.
I think an honorable mention should be "Cogenitor," even if only for being so controversial. Many believe it was one of the worst Star Trek episodes ever, while others think it's perfectly fine. I dislike it because it portrays Archer in such an awful manner, and how he acts so out of character & hypocritical. That chastising of Trip at the end? Coming from Archer, it's a complete joke.
Yeah, you'd think that he'd be against aliens enslaving a portion of their population, but no.
At first I thought there weren’t any shitty episodes of Enterprise from what I remembered. While watching this I was reminded that there were actually a few.
Two days, two nights was written to reflect the atmosphere of a vacation, just like Moby Dick is written so dully to reflect the monotony of whaling.
These Are the Voyages could have been a decent mid-season episode and trip should not have died and the series should have continued considering they were building toward the Romulan War
My favourite episode of Enterprise is Doctor's Orders even though it's the same story as the Voyager episode One
I love the creepiness of it, the idea that Phlox is at first unaware he's talking to people who aren't real
Plus, being all alone in a deserted spaceship is ideal for feelings of paranoia and isolation
I thought the “two characters stranded on X” tended to be boring.
I forgot Trip "dies" in Enterprise. The holodeck scene should have been on the Enterprise E, not D. Marina and Johnathan looked a bit too aged to be back on the old D.
"Breaking the Ice" for having Archer endagering the life of two of his crewman because of pride, and being convinced to accept help to their rescue only by an appeal to his pride.
I literally forgot "Rogue Planet" existed...
The WORST episode was the last one! It skipped ten years into the future with NO explaination, no promotions for the crew & come to find out it was a Holodeck session that took place during a Next Gen episode!!!
on the bright side, it gave the writers an excuse to retcon Trip's death. Which is weird, the only thing to happen in the episode is an event that in Beta continuity didn't happen... in Beta canon Shran even rejoins the Military
Archer had no right to be a starship captain.
Daedalus was disappointing to me because it didn't involve a Daedalus class ship. Secondly, I chalked the bad acting of the guest star to his disabilities.
DJRonnieG the character that invented the transporter wasn't actually disabled.
The character was, the actor wasn't.
Yeah I know the actor wasn't wheelchair bound. I tend to use various mental gymnastics to justify some of the things that we see on Star Trek.
G. Waldmeister yeah, I was thinking one thing and typed another.
That's what we all do, I guess. Which is why I sometimes think "Discovery" is just there to break us. Every week people on the internet go "Oh, but you see these inconsistencies could be explained if they were just ancient Klingons" or "It all takes part in a separate timeline and they will only enter the prime timeline when they leave the Mirror Universe which is why we never heard of Spock's sister before" and shit. And then nope, that a D7, folks. That what they apparently look like in 2256. You know what I mean?
I personally found "These are the Voyages" to be generally a good episode, yes it could have been a Mid-season one, and yes the death of Trip could have been done differently or not at all, they killed off one of the best characters in the show, and yes the episode could have done without the Riker and Deanna holodeck part in it, I agree on that. For me it did not ruine the general feel of the episode, but it could have done without it. The TNG episode "The Pegasus", is one of my favorite episodes, but to see (older) Riker and Deanna trying to play there younger versions, was a bit to much. I would have loved to hear Archers speech , because to my opinion, the whole episode builds up to it, and not to hear it was a let-down for me. The ending however I loved, seeing the Enterprice Nx-01, Enterprice-D and Enterprice fly past with the famous words “These are the Voyages” always makes me come close to tears (sorry if my grammer and spelling is bad)
Dear Doctor. What a terrible way to try and let Billingsly shine by giving him a terrible episode.
One of the minor nitpicks I have from “These Are The Voyages” is the way they used stock footage from the TNG episode “Ménage à Troi.” There is a scene in Ten Forward and, as the camera pans, we see Riker and Troi… and then we see a much younger Riker playing 3D chess with the Ferengi.
Good list--tho I am surprised you didn't include that toilet-fire of a Ferengi episode.
The worst part of Rogue Planet is the premise. Planets not orbiting a star would in no way support life or be habitable.
That last ep WAS terrible. A Total let down to what had been up to that point, a really GOOD developing ST chapter! (S 3 & 4) CBS had a golden opportunity to document 1 of the most pivotal periods in ST 'history', the Earth/Romulan war and the forming of the UFP, and they totally BLEW it!
When the series was first announced I only wanted two things out of it: the Earth-Romulus war and the birth of the Federation.
Sadly, we didn’t get to see the two most pivotal events in Star Trek lore - the Earth/Romulan War and the birth of the Federation - depicted onscreen. Instead, we had to go to the bookshelf in order to find out what might have been, and have it play out in our minds as we read the 9(?) ENT retcon novels. However, at this late date (and considering who’s running Star Trek now) I’m not holding out much hope that we’ll see the Earth/Romulan War and the birth of the Federation depicted onscreen, either in a live-action or animated miniseries, anytime soon.
@@MsSissiePooh I agree Steph!
1. "These Are The Voyages..."
2. "Storm Front" (Parts 1+2)
3. "Terra Nova"
4. "A Night in Sickbay"
5. "Precious Cargo"
Dishonorable Mentions: "Marauders", "Acquisition", "Bounty"
Oh wait, I forgot about "Shadows of P'Jem"...I am nowhere near being an ENT hater but come to think of it, that show had an abundance of bad episodes
The death of tucker was so sad and as he said, unnecessary.
One thing I've never understood about space travel shows is why the protagonists are always apologizing to some new species, but those people NEVER feel a need to apologize, or even consider that some of THEIR behavior may be offensive. I mean, imagine if these were klingons they were dealing with, and they caught an attitude. That planet would become a smoldering dead zone, offense and all, and the Klingons would high five each other afterwards. I mean, is ass kissing a required course in Starfleet Academy?
Dude- LMAO Riiiiight !!!
The worst was the final one. It was insulting to both the regular cast and the viewers to make Riker and Troi so central to the story. One of the worst endings to any series.
“Dear Doctor” - I hated this one so much, it flipped my perception of the show from “okay, with some problems” to “terrible, with some good points”. It never recovered.
This is interesting. I loved Enterprise overall and think it is heavily underrated.
And especially the episode you hate is one of my favorites. First, because Flox plays a major role in it and second, because it shows the struggle Archer goes through when making a tough and - in my opinion - in the end right decision.
I see some paint drying this evening. No, no, it's Daedelus.
It HAS been a long road, getting from there to here...
(this is gonna suck.)
When I rewatched Enterprise a few years ago I decided... this theme is notably bad, so I looked up a list of top 10 - 20 worst TV show themes. I got to #2 and I was disappointed that somehow ENT was just so unwatched the maker of the list didn't know it existed to add it to the list. Oh wait it was #1. I laughed my head off.
Hey! The Enterprise theme isn't THAT bad, and it sure as hell isn't as embarassing AAAAASSSSSSS......
*A BRITISH TAR IS A SOARING SOUL! AS FREE AS A MOUNTAIN BIRD! HIS ENERGETIC FIST SHOULD BE READY TO RESIST A **_DIC-TA-TOR-IAL_** WORTH!*
I always imagined it to be Archer singing it with an electric guitar slung round his neck, rocking out in his quarters...
What, "A British Tar" from Star Trek: Insurrection/THE *WORST* FILM TO BEAR THE STAR TREK NAME?!
Nah, I'm joking. It's obvious you're talking about the Enterprise theme.
P.S. His Nose Should *PANT,* and His Lips Should *CURL~*
No. *Wrong.* Stuff HAPPENS in Star Trek Beyond, the new characters (Krall and Jaylah) are badass, it feels like the original series, and it doesn't openly violate Roddenberry's Ideals.
Star Trek: Insurrection is literally just action, cringe-worthy dialogue, awful comedy and lousy special effects, with the lamest villains of the franchise (The Son'a) who you end up ROOTING for when you realise this film is set during the _Dominion War_ arc on Deep Space Nine, awful supporting characters in the form of the smug, self-centered Baku, embarrassing moments that will put Uhura's naked fan-dance in Star Trek V to shame, and an anti-technology aesop which completely VIOLATES the principles of Star Trek. It IS the worst Star Trek film.
Commander Tucker's PREGNANCY ?
Killing Trip... NUFF SAID....
Got a source on the background music used in the video? It's got a nice epic yet chill vibe to it
The track is called, Sector Space 3 from Star Trek Online
Thank you sir!
The one where Hoshi is dropped off on that planet with that really weird looking alien.
That show epitomizes all the problems that I had with many of the STAR TREK sequel series going all the way back to the NEXT GENERATION.
Wait, you really thought Trip was one of the GOOD characters on the show? Wow.
its a case of relativity. I mean outside T'Pol who are you putting above him? Merryweather is just there. Reed is Reed. Archer is acceptable. Phlox sometimes really wants to be vented into space (Dear Doctor, fuck you). Hoshi is fine.
Extinction and Hatchery are two episodes that should have been on this list. Extinction gives These are the Voyages a run for its money as the absolute worst.
I'd rather re-watch Spock's Brain, Move Along Home, Threshold and Rogue Planet than any episode of Discovery.
ST has a knack for screwing up series finales.
Risa has a good episode?
Captain's Holiday. Eh~~
Let He Was Without Sin. Eh~~
Two Days and Two Nights. Eh~~
Captain's Holiday is fun, though. Picard as Indiana Jones, don't tell me that isn't a good time.
I actually like 2 of those. Not great episodes but I enjoyed them.
Swish Fish...That woman he had the romance with came back in a later episode, of course- But I thought it didn't amount to much. They could have made more of it.
Your first episode is the one that got me looking to see what people thought of as the worst episodes. I just picked up the series on DVD cheap at a thrift store and started rewatching it. I came to a night in sickbay and found it completely cringeworthy. I didn't mind the sick dog part, but the Dr stuff and even worst the T'Pol stuff was almost unwatchable. A female Vulcan crew member was a great idea, but between her outfits and mannerisms, I had trouble accepting her. (BTW, I liked 7 0f 9 because she was written well and at least there was a Borg excuse for her catsuit). I actually didn't mind Rogue Planet, but I didn't focus on the romance aspect and more on the hunters, especially since I recognized the voice of one of the actors from an episode of Babylon 5. Telepathic shapeshifters is kind of a cool idea. I agree, 2 days and 2 nights wasn't great. I guess it kind of hits you with the opposite of what you expected for a Riza outing, but it could have been more. I haven't gotten to season 4 yet, but I'm happy to see the finale in the worst list. What a insult that was. So here I am 6 years later watching this video because I thought A Night in Sickbay was the cringiest Star Trek episode I'd ever seen.
The last episode of Enterprise is the biggest let-down since the last episode of Smallville.
lol rogue planet … reminds me of the "no no no!" moment of chakotey in Voyager kissing the ant alien!
That one with the transporter inventor was pretty good to me
Stigma, that has to be the worst one. So on the nose, so illogical. I don't know how it got out of the writers room.
Honestly, the Series finale of Enterprise should have been Number one. Talk about a disservice to Enterprise fans.
It was #1... That's exactly where he ranked it.
I loath “These are the Voyages”
10. Proving Ground (7/10)
9. Precious Cargo
8. Deadalus
7. Fortunate Son (6/10)
6. Extiction
5. The Forge/Awakening/Kir'Shara
4. Rogue Planet
3. Oasis
2. Hatchery (5/10)
1. The Crossing
Trip was killed when we wanted him to do T Pol.
Is it just me, or is the T'Pol in the thumbnail from Star Trek Timelines...?
Correct
I see at least two people might play the game, correct?
@@SciFiFan2012 make it three
"The Andorian Incident" was what made me quit _Enterprise._ Archer rats out Vulcan, Earth's only intergalactic ally, to their sworn enemy and gets no repercussions for it. The show treats it like he was right to do that. I just could not watch the show after that since I saw it as too immature. I'm lucky since I missed the rest of these awful episodes.
The Vulcans were hardly allies at that point in the series. More like overbearing parents who hated their children.
The montage at the end of the finale was a slap in the face by Braga towards DS9 since he didn't write on it and so doesn't mention it
He also didn't include Voyager, even though he wrote on that. The montage was about the Enterprise, hence no DS9 or Voyager.
@@RowanJColeman Fair enough, I admit I'm not Braga (and Berman) biggest fan
my biggest problem with this show was this... t'pols uniform... or lack thereof... when she joined up with starfleet, she just put some stickers on her pink outfit thing she was already wearing for a year...
Episodes like "These Are The Voyages." is exactly why the series failed. It was pure crap. Just like the entire Xindi arc. Just like how Vulcans suddenly think that humans stink with no mention of it anywhere in trek beforehand. And ironically, they gave us NEW when they should have been exploring the OLD. They didn't even try that until the fourth season and by then it was too late. Season four, should have been season three. But they gave us the Xindi, another "new" race instead. That probe that cut a swath through earth, should have been a unidentified Romulan device. A proper precursor to the Romulan War. But NOPE! The writers were clueless as to what the trek fans expected and did not understand the era they were writing about until it was too late.
@@andrewblanchard2398 Primitive? yes. Stinky? No. That part was just plain foolish.
@@andrewblanchard2398 Like I said. Shit writing. And she was not the only Vulcan in that series to mention it. It was just silly writing.
@@andrewblanchard2398 Then why were you arguing? ???
“what were they thinking” utterly.
They honestly should have set it during Riker's first mission on the Titan. It would've allowed for the actors being...well...older. And it could've added some needed drama.
I actually like "A Night in Sickbay", mainly cuz Porthos is central to the plot. Definitely agree about "These Are the Voyages..." though. I love the relationship between Riker & Troi, but why did they have to be in the ENT finale? Even Jolene Blalock wasn't thrilled about that. Also, why have it set during a TNG episode with Archer and crew only appearing in the holodeck? 11 years after TNG ended, Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis had clearly aged a bit during that time. So why not have their plot set sometime after Nemesis, which was released 3 years earlier? And I actually thought that's what it was gonna be when I heard Riker & Troi were in the ENT finale.
The problem was not with Archer, but with the aliens, who are basically mirror-Edo, or close.
Mirror Edo, yes, I was just thinking that a few days back about Rajiin.