Caught doing the 'California roll' can get you fined

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • Getting a ticket from the Mountain Recreation and Conservation Authority is not the same as a ticket issued by a cop or a Highway Patrol officer. It doesn’t count against your driving record or your insurance rates. But failure to pay can impact your credit score and possibly result in debt collectors coming after you. KTLA's David Lazarus reports on May 13, 2024. Details: ktla.com
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  • @rafael82x
    @rafael82x 16 днів тому +1255

    Sounds more like a scam

    • @mikeswanson6145
      @mikeswanson6145 15 днів тому +36

      The conservation of their own pocket books

    • @tommydong8070
      @tommydong8070 15 днів тому +13

      How is it a scam?

    • @Kenny49ERS
      @Kenny49ERS 15 днів тому +6

      It def is

    • @Kenny49ERS
      @Kenny49ERS 15 днів тому +11

      @@tommydong8070 because you don’t have to pay it 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @choleluvstoshop8134
      @choleluvstoshop8134 15 днів тому +27

      it is unnecessary policing at a stop sign where there is NO other cars!

  • @rafimontoya8452
    @rafimontoya8452 15 днів тому +503

    Sound like robbery disguised as safety 😂

    • @Jonathaneve5
      @Jonathaneve5 12 днів тому +9

      If you make a full stop which you supposed to. What’s there to worry about?

    • @reversalmushroom
      @reversalmushroom 11 днів тому +6

      @@Jonathaneve5 This is such a non-issue the park shouldn't care about. Greed on the part of the government.

    • @scream9973
      @scream9973 10 днів тому +2

      @@Jonathaneve5you’re already at about 5 mph and can stop on a dime if theres another car, i dont see the problem?

    • @AwkwardYet
      @AwkwardYet 10 днів тому +1

      @@scream9973 Not hard to you know just stop like youre supposed to

    • @YodatheHobbit
      @YodatheHobbit 10 днів тому +3

      IT LITERALLY SAYS FULL STOP. IT"S NEVER BEEN LEGAL TO NOT. YOUR FRIEND TELLING IT IS WAS WAS LYING.

  • @olivrrrr
    @olivrrrr 16 днів тому +811

    Those cameras will get vandalized soon! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @standtall7646
    @standtall7646 15 днів тому +250

    A CONSERVATION CORPS does NOT have authority to do that. THEY SHOULD BE SUED FOR IMPERSONATING LAW ENFORCEMENT! and IMPOSING ILLEGAL FINES! THIEVES!

    • @thefox47545
      @thefox47545 15 днів тому +11

      Yes but how come they've been getting away with it for 10 years? They must have found some loophole.

    • @MKIVRoller
      @MKIVRoller 14 днів тому +1

      Impersonation law enforcement much

    • @playafly316
      @playafly316 13 днів тому +11

      They are a part of a state agency. Most likely, there's a state statute that was signed into law allowing them to enforce these rules and issue citations for breaking the rules on property under their jurisdiction...

    • @1stPersonStateConsciousness
      @1stPersonStateConsciousness 11 днів тому

      Neither does the government or the state police/highway patrol. This is all a tactic for people to give into police authority by saying these people don't have authority "The highway patrol have that authority" Its all a trick from the system to have YOU ADMIT who has authority over you

  • @TnTHedo
    @TnTHedo 13 днів тому +250

    Go ahead and shoplift $999 without any consequence. "Roll" through a stop sign and suddenly you are held liable.

    • @creepingalien9055
      @creepingalien9055 11 днів тому +17

      It's crazy bro, they really try taking your money at any opportunity

    • @bellinghamfpv
      @bellinghamfpv 11 днів тому +2

      Are there really no consequences?

    • @debbiepreciado1956
      @debbiepreciado1956 9 днів тому +1

      😂

    • @nnbadboy
      @nnbadboy 8 днів тому +2

      ​@bellinghamfpv no it's illegal just not a felony.

    • @michellehawkins1027
      @michellehawkins1027 6 днів тому

      Both are wrong,I wish there were harsher punishments for both. Not this pay a fine and you can keep on endangering others BS.

  • @user-bj8jt1dl6u
    @user-bj8jt1dl6u 16 днів тому +441

    they have nothing better to do I swear.

    • @CALILIFE8251
      @CALILIFE8251 15 днів тому +23

      They just love finding ideas to get money out of peoples pockets

    • @charliecarter1878
      @charliecarter1878 15 днів тому

      @@CALILIFE8251yup

    • @unkono
      @unkono 14 днів тому +7

      It's a money maker.

    • @itsmepappiepaper9704
      @itsmepappiepaper9704 11 днів тому +10

      It isn't hard to be safe on the road. Just be smart lmao. Are people incapable of stopping for 3 seconds so that they dont hit and potentially kill someone?

    • @Kaybaby6668
      @Kaybaby6668 11 днів тому

      At 1 mi an hour 😂​@@itsmepappiepaper9704

  • @LuckyBaldwin777
    @LuckyBaldwin777 15 днів тому +168

    Once they let HOAs fine people for breaking their rules, that opened the floodgates for everyone to do it. This crap needs to be reined in.

    • @WolfDShadow
      @WolfDShadow 14 днів тому +8

      HOA's get away with issuing ticket until someone takes them to court over it is because they force you to sign a contract that you will follow their rules when you move I to the HOA. Notice how house flippers get blindsided by HOA's then state how they try to avoid HOA's because they end up overspending on the renovations having to redo work after the HOA doesn't approve work that was completed before informing the house flipper or contractors even those they sat there watching the work being done and never said a word to any of them that the house was part of a HOA. Hell there are almost daily stories now about how HOA's violate mandatory laws that supercede their rules and law enforcement and courts have to go after the HOA's for refusing to follow actual laws that they are not authorized to ignore.

  • @mrtee3477
    @mrtee3477 16 днів тому +366

    take them to court.

    • @BlueRice
      @BlueRice 15 днів тому +15

      actually the court would like to favor the drivers since the court and their associates then get paid. just like the traffic camera, the court are against it as it doesnt bring revenue to them but third party people makes the money

    • @TradingTheta89
      @TradingTheta89 15 днів тому +6

      Who has time and money for court?

    • @woodriver648
      @woodriver648 15 днів тому

      Jesus, they don't take shoplifters, drug dealers, and a myriad of other FELONS to court. Ain't Commiefornia GREAT!

    • @bambur1
      @bambur1 15 днів тому +8

      let them take me to court. Let them send it to debt collectors. They have zero authority and are overstepping their bounds

    • @woodriver648
      @woodriver648 15 днів тому +7

      You ignore a simple law like stopping completely at a stop sign. What does it save you? Three freaking seconds, There absolutely no reason NOT to stop.@@bambur1

  • @tfustudios
    @tfustudios 16 днів тому +471

    But participating in a sideshow, shooting off guns will not.

    • @ivandragomiloff2356
      @ivandragomiloff2356 16 днів тому +53

      You forgot Crossing the international border and demanding free stuff

    • @Robgeee
      @Robgeee 15 днів тому +2

      Shooting off guns? I didn’t know they did that at sideshows lol

    • @lauralarrabee7870
      @lauralarrabee7870 15 днів тому +2

      Different agencies have different responsibilities, MRCA will do backup on occasion but they mostly police the homes around the mountains. They are state funded and are a legit organization. Mostly at beck and call of the homeowners around the mountains.

    • @gofar12345
      @gofar12345 15 днів тому +10

      Don't forget the super loud, unnecessary vehicle mufflers!

    • @mrtopcat2
      @mrtopcat2 15 днів тому +6

      @@gofar12345 I recently wrote to my representative about that. It seems over the years exhausts are just getting louder and louder AND on more and more vehicles. On weekends it is difficult to enjoy some popular recreational areas any more because of all the noise of loud piped cruisers.

  • @mRahman92
    @mRahman92 15 днів тому +136

    Sounds like someone looking for free money.

  • @teejaybee8222
    @teejaybee8222 16 днів тому +146

    Got one of these. Didn't pay. They put these in the most random places to trick people into rolling the stop. For example, I got mine at the Top of Topanga area on Topanga Cyn Road. They put the stop sign about 25-50ft behind where you actually merge onto the road so you end up going a bit further beyond the camera sensor and they "catch" you in the act. With the stop sign so far back, you are unable to see if cars are coming safely, so any (safe) driver will pull out further than the stop sign so they can see over the crest of the hill before merging. It's deceptive and not in the interest in safety (no pedestrian crossings or other hazards nearby) and all to generate revenue for MRCA.
    I can understand wanting to get some revenue to keep up the park, but this is the wrong way to do it. Do it like any other park and charge parking fees.

    • @pablohassan6897
      @pablohassan6897 16 днів тому +11

      If they have moved the signs back without the relevant approval from the department of transport and infrastructure, and someone is killed in an accident as a result, I'd imagine a HUGE lawsuit would follow.

    • @andrewli1519
      @andrewli1519 16 днів тому +7

      It's the city's job to manage the parks and the roads, and also, u do give me the thought if they (this real or fake organization), just randomly installing stop signs at places were there wasn't one or shouldn't be there, just scare people out of their money. And another thing to, how do they have access to ur credit info? That's a bit strange...

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 16 днів тому

      @@andrewli1519 Anybody can have access to your credit info by paying for the service at one of the credit bureau (eg TransUnion or Equifax).

    • @frankthetank4101
      @frankthetank4101 15 днів тому +10

      Just stop at the stop sign and then creep forward it really not that hard.

    • @stainlesssteellemming3885
      @stainlesssteellemming3885 15 днів тому +12

      How do you get "tricked into rolling the stop sign"? You CHOOSE not to stop.

  • @JoeFlation
    @JoeFlation 15 днів тому +118

    Send me a FAKE ticket, I'll be seeing you in court.

    • @Jonathaneve5
      @Jonathaneve5 12 днів тому +5

      Waste a week of your work…

    • @JoeFlation
      @JoeFlation 12 днів тому +29

      @@Jonathaneve5 I'm retired, It would be entertaining, hope it's you....

    • @Jonathaneve5
      @Jonathaneve5 12 днів тому +3

      @@JoeFlation me what??? Go enjoy your time at court, lol.

    • @JoeFlation
      @JoeFlation 12 днів тому +5

      @@Jonathaneve5 It's "in", not "at", I smell a foreign troll.

    • @Jonathaneve5
      @Jonathaneve5 12 днів тому +3

      @@JoeFlation I’m not an American because I misused a word? Have a good day, sir!

  • @arthouston7361
    @arthouston7361 14 днів тому +145

    The irony is that stopping and then accelerating causes more emissions than a roll.

    • @JoeMama-xu8sb
      @JoeMama-xu8sb 11 днів тому +7

      exactly😂

    • @weskelly4538
      @weskelly4538 10 днів тому +8

      This is the one time I think emissions are not the concern

    • @mist2498
      @mist2498 10 днів тому +3

      ​@@weskelly4538 it aint.. but thats just something that "rolling" helps out with.. aint much but hey its something! And something is ALWAYS better than nothing

    • @arcadion448
      @arcadion448 9 днів тому +2

      Many things are more efficient when you break the law. Cheat on your taxes for example.

    • @anon2414
      @anon2414 9 днів тому

      Full stop is not stated for emissions. Never was.

  • @minlou4639
    @minlou4639 15 днів тому +52

    Tough times when your local park officials have to become scammers. But they think it’s ok because they put signs up letting you know.

  • @logantopper908
    @logantopper908 15 днів тому +27

    I'm surprised nobody destroyed the cameras yet

    • @weeblordgaming6062
      @weeblordgaming6062 12 днів тому +7

      Give it some time

    • @michellehawkins1027
      @michellehawkins1027 6 днів тому +1

      Yeah someone who doesn't care about endangering others by just rolling threw a stop sign,won't care about destroying property.

  • @numlol1
    @numlol1 16 днів тому +87

    I got one of these in the mail from a car I used to lease and was turned in. What i wanna know is why does these tickets bypass insurance rates and impacts credit score? Something really shady is happening here somebody is getting rich in this gray area.

    • @MerlinDaCat
      @MerlinDaCat 15 днів тому +18

      Because they aren't real tickets. Even if it goes to collections they have to prove it's your. Simply don't acknowledge them and they go away.

  • @theultimatetroll2852
    @theultimatetroll2852 16 днів тому +233

    This is a straight up scam you shouldn't have to pay a dime bro

    • @elfm2717
      @elfm2717 15 днів тому +13

      Maybe you should come to a complete stop and get off the phone with ur boyfriend,bro.

    • @tommydong8070
      @tommydong8070 15 днів тому +2

      How is it a scam munkei? That is a stop sign. Would you like to get a point put on your driving record and your insurance cost goes up? Yes, I misspelled that word.

    • @mhaas281
      @mhaas281 15 днів тому +4

      Isn't rolling through a stop sign illegal?

    • @B345T1N355Official
      @B345T1N355Official 15 днів тому +3

      @@tommydong8070Actually the reporter at 1:15 or so clarifies that it is just a fine, you don’t get points on your record and it doesn’t affect your insurance.

    • @choleluvstoshop8134
      @choleluvstoshop8134 15 днів тому +3

      A rigid stop isn't the goal, public safety is! If its safe, people should be allowed roll.

  • @insaneworld8477
    @insaneworld8477 14 днів тому +15

    This is what you call extortion and a scam.

    • @Jonathaneve5
      @Jonathaneve5 12 днів тому +1

      How is it a scam?

    • @ValiantPixel
      @ValiantPixel 11 днів тому +1

      @@Jonathaneve5Because most people who get these notices will think that they are related to their driving record when they are not. It’s an abuse of public perception of these types of fines.

  • @cincoosaan
    @cincoosaan 13 днів тому +14

    Sounds like blackmail, and now I smell a lawsuit.

  • @SCSC-qz7rr
    @SCSC-qz7rr 15 днів тому +40

    This should be illegal! They’re posing as they are som kind of law authority to basically get your money 😡 I hope a huge civil action lawsuit comes out of this!😡😡😡

  • @aftertheheadlines
    @aftertheheadlines 15 днів тому +66

    I live in locally, I have been repeatedly told by police officers they must witness an infraction to issue a citation for a loose leash violation.
    Multiple letters and countless videos of the pitbull nextdoor jumping the fence charging people on the sidewalk, charging dogs being walked on leashes, repeatedly running onto my property to get my little dog, almost running inside my home and nothing can be done until it bites someone.
    One officer told me he was an ‘expert on Constitutional Law’ and they will never accept security video to issue a citation for an infraction.
    I am repeatedly told an officer must witnesses the infraction. I have provided over a dozen videos and nothing.
    Yet when a traffic camera makes money for a city, county, or public park THEN those videos are allowed to hold someone accountable for an infraction violation.
    Public safety vs revenue.

    • @goofyahdemoman1134
      @goofyahdemoman1134 12 днів тому +1

      The government is not for the people, it’s for the money.

    • @weeblordgaming6062
      @weeblordgaming6062 12 днів тому +1

      Well videos can be ai generated

    • @danwentz
      @danwentz 12 днів тому

      Those same cops also use this, where do you think these people got the equipment from?

    • @1stPersonStateConsciousness
      @1stPersonStateConsciousness 11 днів тому

      That kind of citation is for court. This citation is more of a fines citation.

    • @SylviaHolman-ef8fv
      @SylviaHolman-ef8fv 9 днів тому

      Welcome to sunny California.

  • @standardarm63
    @standardarm63 10 днів тому +14

    I'm a full stopper.
    Its about looking right.
    Left, right, and left.

  • @nonyabusiness4151
    @nonyabusiness4151 3 дні тому +3

    In America, at least 75% of STOP signs should actually be YIELD signs.

  • @markdc1145
    @markdc1145 16 днів тому +173

    Time to SHUT IT DOWN!

    • @slumy8195
      @slumy8195 16 днів тому +14

      spray paint can always destroys cameras

    • @joedirt7553
      @joedirt7553 15 днів тому +12

      Baseball bats do a great job as well.

    • @musclesmountainsandmascara
      @musclesmountainsandmascara 15 днів тому +3

      You're what's wrong with the world. Rules are there for a reason. Threatening to damage property not a good look.

    • @Joe_Brown99
      @Joe_Brown99 15 днів тому +5

      @@musclesmountainsandmascara
      Private businesses threatening people is ok though right?

    • @stainlesssteellemming3885
      @stainlesssteellemming3885 15 днів тому +6

      @@Joe_Brown99 Or, you know, people could just actually STOP at the sign.
      Radical idea, I know.

  • @matthew8036
    @matthew8036 16 днів тому +88

    How are the accessing the DMV database for registered owner info when the are not law enforcement

    • @foxtrotwolf6081
      @foxtrotwolf6081 16 днів тому +1

      You just connect to the DMV. I got in an accident in the 90s and not long after, I got notification from DMV stating they gave registered vehicle list to some law firm. Then, I got another that the law firm got my driving record.

    • @popcorn5130
      @popcorn5130 16 днів тому +5

      "While MRCA Park Rangers are California Peace Officers, they also perform maintenance, interpretation, and fire rescue duties at parks throughout the Southern California region. Automated stop sign enforcement uses camera systems and sensors to detect stop sign violations. A stop sign violation consists of a vehicle not coming to a complete stop behind the limit line. The violation is detected and the camera system records a video image of the entire incident including the vehicle and its surroundings. Automated enforcement of stop signs in heavily used parks makes sense as an additional tool to keep all park users safe, while making drivers more aware of the potential hazards around them.

      Is this a courtesy notice?
      No. This is not a courtesy notice. A California Peace Officer has issued this citation after reviewing the evidence of a driving violation."

    • @B1onicelbow420
      @B1onicelbow420 15 днів тому +10

      @@popcorn5130ok sap. This isn’t helping anybody but their own pockets nobody has been killed by a rolling stop

    • @mikeymarriott
      @mikeymarriott 15 днів тому +8

      Every DMV sells your information now. Standard operating procedure. That’s how carvana can access your information just by entering your tag on their website.

    • @silverblue9286
      @silverblue9286 15 днів тому

      Looks like the park rangers are far and few. Im glad they cut rangers retirement benefits and employee cuts. But heres your rolling stop camera. ​@@popcorn5130

  • @devengudinas1649
    @devengudinas1649 15 днів тому +23

    No cop no stop.

  • @Bricked_iPhone
    @Bricked_iPhone 16 днів тому +53

    I was expecting Sushi

    • @rachelwaln269
      @rachelwaln269 15 днів тому +7

      Lol. I thought it was the name of the latest dance craze 😂.

  • @juliangarcia2010
    @juliangarcia2010 16 днів тому +15

    👎THIS IS RIDICULOUS. For example I remember when I first moved to L.A. parking to the Griffith Observatory was always free now you have to pay for parking. This is what this “Conservationist Group” should do. Charge a small fee for parking. This is beyond shady and deceptive.

    • @hattag3399
      @hattag3399 15 днів тому +1

      There doing the same thing at etiwanda falls the parking used to be free now you have to pay for it people just need money so bad they be finding ways to make it

    • @jameschan9634
      @jameschan9634 15 днів тому +1

      Parking isn't cheap any where. I was at Highland and Hollywood, parking was $20! Heck, Las Vegas casinos charge for parking,! That's nuts, as if they don't have enough cash flow! it's just turned into another cash cow.

    • @Lotty126
      @Lotty126 15 днів тому

      I went to a doctor office in Burbank and there charging for parking as well it was like 10 bucks my poor 10 dollar I could’ve used that to fix my computer.

    • @tod-sm1xk
      @tod-sm1xk 7 днів тому

      Sometimes Mr bean’s idea does come in handy

  • @TheFirmest
    @TheFirmest 16 днів тому +79

    it should be a yield not a stop sign

    • @patrickh619
      @patrickh619 14 днів тому +3

      then they cannot steal money from drivers now, can they?

    • @disan9135
      @disan9135 13 днів тому

      This 🙌

    • @Jonathaneve5
      @Jonathaneve5 12 днів тому

      @@patrickh619if you follow the “stop
      Sign rule…”

  • @MrStumpson
    @MrStumpson 11 днів тому +4

    "I'm the kind of person who would have donated to them, and I never would now"
    With that ticket, he probably gave more to them than he ever would have when donating on his own

  • @c.s.440
    @c.s.440 16 днів тому +19

    Yet, they wont arrest actual criminals 🤔

    • @arvurebantra7639
      @arvurebantra7639 16 днів тому +2

      The parks department is NOT the police.

    • @popcorn5130
      @popcorn5130 16 днів тому

      @@arvurebantra7639 "While MRCA Park Rangers are California Peace Officers, they also perform maintenance, interpretation, and fire rescue duties at parks throughout the Southern California region. Automated stop sign enforcement uses camera systems and sensors to detect stop sign violations. A stop sign violation consists of a vehicle not coming to a complete stop behind the limit line. The violation is detected and the camera system records a video image of the entire incident including the vehicle and its surroundings. Automated enforcement of stop signs in heavily used parks makes sense as an additional tool to keep all park users safe, while making drivers more aware of the potential hazards around them.

      Is this a courtesy notice?
      No. This is not a courtesy notice. A California Peace Officer has issued this citation after reviewing the evidence of a driving violation."

    • @YodatheHobbit
      @YodatheHobbit 10 днів тому +2

      To risk an innocent person's bodily injury is a crime.

  • @justhere4721
    @justhere4721 15 днів тому +9

    It's a moving violation which they're not allowed to give and collect on. Thats why they can only send it to your credit report as an unpaid debt in hopes that you will just pay it.

  • @jeffhuggins64
    @jeffhuggins64 15 днів тому +9

    Mountain Recreation and Conservation Authority management needs to be LOCKED UP..............................................

  • @gofar12345
    @gofar12345 15 днів тому +8

    California is something else 😂

  • @yamiru3417
    @yamiru3417 11 днів тому +2

    imagine driving a manual, always rolling because your stall the car. and getting a ticket because you didnt want to stall the car

  • @clippertalk
    @clippertalk 16 днів тому +89

    If it’s for public safety, they shouldn’t hide the cameras

    • @aftertheheadlines
      @aftertheheadlines 15 днів тому +6

      Private Citizen video of an infraction vs municipal money making video.
      I have turned in to police and animal control dozens of videos of the pitbull next door jumping the fence at the sidewalk and charging people walking by, jumping the fence and attacking a dog being walked, charging my property where I had to install a gate to stop it from running to our rear cottage. Tolerating at least five different men running in my backyard to retrieve the pit.
      Both animal control and police saying nothing can be done until the pitbull bites someone.
      I was told by multiple officers they cannot issue a loose leash violation because it is an infraction and must be witnessed by an officer. I asked how my video doesn’t suffice as evidence and was told by one officer he was an expert in Constitutional Law and then he schooled me about the infractions. Of course if the pit bites someone they will ask for the same videos.
      My point, video from the public for public safety video doesn’t suffice for an infraction citation, yet for traffic cameras making money for the City or County they do suffice.

    • @collinsmuerte
      @collinsmuerte 15 днів тому +7

      Giant sign says "Photo Enforced" soooo, you know camera are in the area LMAOO

    • @mhaas281
      @mhaas281 15 днів тому +4

      Camera is not hidden. It's in a enclosed case for it's protection and there is a big yellow sign telling you about it

  • @stratfordbaby8572
    @stratfordbaby8572 9 днів тому +3

    If it's not a ticket then they can't do anything against your credit score. That's a scam. They don't have the power to fine you.

  • @Awesome_Aasim
    @Awesome_Aasim 6 днів тому +3

    Stop signs suck. Replace them with yield triangles and priority diamonds in 90% of cases. The only time a stop sign should be used is when visibility is so low so as to compromise safety at the junction.

  • @t500010000
    @t500010000 16 днів тому +25

    OMG that ticket ain't real?! Not paying 😂😂😂

    • @thefox47545
      @thefox47545 15 днів тому +3

      The ticket may not be real but the collections agency is. How that works I have no idea.

    • @lifedeather
      @lifedeather 12 днів тому

      Rip ur credit score

    • @ribstogo12
      @ribstogo12 10 днів тому

      However, the stop sign is very real.

  • @1000ranch
    @1000ranch 6 днів тому +1

    You don't get caught on stealing up to $900 but got fined to roll a Stop sign. That is CALIFORNIA!

  • @NightSociety
    @NightSociety 15 днів тому +14

    Looks like better suited for a 'Yield' than a stop sign

  • @anonymousmc7727
    @anonymousmc7727 11 днів тому +3

    I bet those cameras have lots of copper in them😂

  • @jgmgreen01
    @jgmgreen01 15 днів тому +4

    it will get ticketed, but we won't pay the "fine"
    THIS IS A SCAM

  • @s8x.
    @s8x. 14 днів тому +11

    meanwhile crime the highest it’s ever been and they focused on this😂😂😂😂

  • @Touch_Finger
    @Touch_Finger 16 днів тому +16

    This is theft.

    • @mhaas281
      @mhaas281 15 днів тому

      Don't break the law don't get a fine. It's that simple.

    • @bigdavedayday1581
      @bigdavedayday1581 15 днів тому +4

      Or scam

  • @MauriceOrtiz-ut8yi
    @MauriceOrtiz-ut8yi 15 днів тому +9

    I did that once, when I was a younsterin front of a police squad car waiting for similar violators and I noticed him as I was engaged in the roll so I immediately pulled over, had my license and registration ready and waited for my citation. When he got to my window I told him I stopped because I broke the law. He let me go saying, " next Stop sign stop twice." I couldn't believe my good fortune and his kindness.
    I imagine he's been long retired and I hope he's in good health.

  • @syntehtix
    @syntehtix 15 днів тому +2

    About public safety, a car sitting idle (vs rolling safely through a stop) will put more toxic emissions into the air. As insignificant as it may seem, and as much as major corporations contribute more than the rest, every little bit counts.

  • @Slyfox1775
    @Slyfox1775 16 днів тому +5

    But you can walk into a store and steal less then 900$ of goods !

  • @KTM22Ride
    @KTM22Ride 16 днів тому +55

    How can I tell who's driving the car? Giving a ticket to the registered owner not driving it is wrong.

    • @popcorn5130
      @popcorn5130 16 днів тому +6

      There are laws called Owner's Liability that put the onus on the listed owner... unless that owner identifies who the driver was. 😉 In my state, they use Owner's Liability with illegally passing school buses, the "Move Over" law, failing to yield to emergency vehicles, and some others. 😁

    • @ronbelanger4113
      @ronbelanger4113 15 днів тому +5

      Don't loan out ride to fools.

    • @dextersmom5694
      @dextersmom5694 15 днів тому +6

      The bottom line is “rolling through a stop sign” is still illegal

    • @Baebon6259
      @Baebon6259 15 днів тому +3

      @@popcorn5130 I guess owners of stolen vehicles are also in for the ride since CA doesn't give af.

    • @jameschan9634
      @jameschan9634 15 днів тому +3

      @@popcorn5130 so, that law means you weren't driving, but a moving violation goes on your record and it affects your insurance?? That's just wrong.

  • @efeG24
    @efeG24 15 днів тому +5

    Thats extortion wtf😂

  • @dylan132
    @dylan132 3 дні тому +1

    I would never pay any fine that a police department didn't issue me.

  • @stevefritz5182
    @stevefritz5182 8 днів тому +1

    In Mexico, if you don't do this you screw up the entire flow of traffic. You are more likely to get a ticket for stopping than for not.

  • @kevrolld
    @kevrolld 7 днів тому +3

    California drivers are this bad?! Yikes

  • @edwarddickson7731
    @edwarddickson7731 15 днів тому +4

    MRCAs truck will get ticketed so MRCA will have to pay $100 to MRCA😂. What a deterrent!!

    • @2ification
      @2ification 15 днів тому

      Mrca’s acting like they above the law

    • @hattag3399
      @hattag3399 15 днів тому

      I hope they have employee discount

  • @michellehawkins1027
    @michellehawkins1027 6 днів тому +1

    Love how this guy's holding his kid accountable. Probably thinks speeding is just fine as well. My kid would not be driving for a while if I found out they rolled through a stop sign, and they would have paid the park for doing so as well.

  • @vincentcastor5978
    @vincentcastor5978 9 днів тому +2

    If you can clearly see there is no other car or pedestrian around, it does not matter if you stop completely or roll through cautiously at 2mph. What would stopping completely change, if no one is near you.

  • @user-cr5il4wz8d
    @user-cr5il4wz8d 16 днів тому +12

    I cant believe the state and law enforcements are in cahoot with these similar to HOA allowed to fine people

  • @ronbelanger4113
    @ronbelanger4113 15 днів тому +36

    Rolling through a stop area has always been illegal.

    • @choleluvstoshop8134
      @choleluvstoshop8134 15 днів тому +8

      If we care about the environment as we say we do; we don't want cars sitting, idling at a stop sign when its safe ti go forward slowly.

    • @thefox47545
      @thefox47545 15 днів тому +10

      Sure, so is going 1 mph over the speed limit. But you have never done that, ever, right? If you have you should turn yourself in because you're a criminal according to the letter of the law.

    • @goofyahdemoman1134
      @goofyahdemoman1134 12 днів тому

      Stopping at a stop sign barely affects the environment…
      What about traffic jams? Those pollute WAY more.

    • @goofyahdemoman1134
      @goofyahdemoman1134 12 днів тому

      You almost have a fair argument, but you fail to consider that not stopping at an all way when somebody else has the right of way before you is an EASY way to end up causing an accident, where even going 5 mph over isn’t dangerous, especially if you’re actually a good driver.

  • @dwoodinnyc
    @dwoodinnyc 15 днів тому +2

    Where are those cameras again? Can someone please post the location so we can all go take a look for ourselves.

  • @cnc-maker
    @cnc-maker 15 днів тому +5

    1) They have no legal authority to issue traffic citations in CA.
    2) Stop light cameras are illegal in CA, and it could be argued that this is an extension of that.

  • @itsrandolphbischhh6592
    @itsrandolphbischhh6592 15 днів тому +17

    "Adult kid" wtf is that 😂

    • @user-wt5bf4rw7e
      @user-wt5bf4rw7e 14 днів тому +1

      A child that is over 18 years in age, try to keep up.

  • @bilguana11
    @bilguana11 15 днів тому +2

    Also, the sign at THE TOP OF TOPANGA is located well before a driver can see all oncoming traffic, so to be safe, a drive must stop twice.

    • @ribstogo12
      @ribstogo12 10 днів тому +1

      Agreed! It's almost like that's why there's a stop sign there 🤔

  • @mia1shooter
    @mia1shooter 4 дні тому +1

    The big question is...who authorized this?

  • @rustynail2065
    @rustynail2065 16 днів тому +9

    Nothing a can of tree tar can’t fix. 😂

  • @riceball777
    @riceball777 16 днів тому +9

    This happen to me as well as red light tickets all send via mail and I have learned that there are no consequences if you just ignore and don’t pay these tickets. There are only consequences for moving violations when they are given to you in person when you are pulled over by a police officer.

    • @AccountInactive
      @AccountInactive 15 днів тому

      Except when they're issued by an officer later and put a lein/suspension on your registration.

    • @WolfDShadow
      @WolfDShadow 14 днів тому

      They were talking about red light cameras the other day on the radio, turns out the cities who actually upgraded their cameras to be compliant with the requirements to have the tickets be enforceable if you even challenge the ticket you already lost the case because they have high quality photos of both your places on the car and a photo of the driver you could use as a head shot when trying to get modeling and acting gigs so their is no question who was driving or if you ran the light. They also only cam issue tickets to cars going straight through a red light not turning even if there is no right turn on red signs around.

    • @riceball777
      @riceball777 14 днів тому +1

      @@WolfDShadow bases on my research I personally have choose to ignored these types of tickets and there are no negative consequences. Meaning there is nothing happens to the owners of the cars driving history or credit or insurance. No points on record. The tickets are just a scare tactic to get people to pay with no real consequences when you just ignore the tickets. You only loose when you pay the ticket or show up to court to try to fight the ticket.

  • @therichtershow
    @therichtershow 14 днів тому +1

    this is normal in other countries... you slow down near a stop sign, if you see there's no cars coming, then proceed, no need to make a full stop for nothing.

  • @jasonmichaelshipp2978
    @jasonmichaelshipp2978 11 днів тому +2

    The California Roll is sushi

  • @jtpalooki7757
    @jtpalooki7757 16 днів тому +3

    Just another HOA toe power grab!

  • @PelonMusk
    @PelonMusk 14 днів тому +3

    Unenforceable. Certainly would NOT affect your credit.

    • @WolfDShadow
      @WolfDShadow 14 днів тому

      People that they send the collection agencies after don't realize if they challenge it to the credit bureaus they will win because the collection agency can't prove they LEGALLY own the debt since there was nothing filed with the courts, if the courts would see the tickets they would throw them oit faster than that company can print out the bogus tickets in the first place based on the quality of the photos alone, not including the fact you can't make out the driver in the photo to prove who ran the stop sign.

  • @hansonel
    @hansonel 15 днів тому +2

    I read the title as "doing the 'California Roll' can get you fired" 😂

  • @ricktbdgc
    @ricktbdgc 11 днів тому +1

    I heard, a random man once setup a booth to collect parking fees at a local zoo, and for 25 years made millions on fees. The zoo staff thought it was the city collecting fees so they never stopped him. The parking was free the whole time he was not working for the city. When he was ready to retire, he took down the booth and disappeared.

  • @20alphabet
    @20alphabet 16 днів тому +9

    Oh, you mean the kind of stops cops do?

    • @fabicorona13
      @fabicorona13 16 днів тому +3

      Cops just turn on their lights to blow through lights and then turn them off after.

  • @BlastinRope
    @BlastinRope 16 днів тому +18

    kind of off topic but stop signs in commercial parking lots arent legally enforced, I never stop at them

    • @ThisPageIntentionallyLeftBlank
      @ThisPageIntentionallyLeftBlank 16 днів тому +4

      Also, there’s usually a DOT sticker on the back of enforced signage… not sure if that changed

    • @popcorn5130
      @popcorn5130 16 днів тому +2

      Check your local municipal ordinances -- sometimes municipalities enact ordinances that make them enforceable (as long as your state's statutes allow the municipalities to do so). Also, roads in state parks are not considered commercial -- they are usually considered public highways (check your state's statutes for applicability on state park property)

    • @thebikeman
      @thebikeman 16 днів тому +7

      Not true. Also very dangerous.

    • @stainlesssteellemming3885
      @stainlesssteellemming3885 15 днів тому +1

      @@thebikeman Yep, had my car written off i a Safeway's by someone with the OP's attitude.

    • @ribstogo12
      @ribstogo12 10 днів тому

      You sound like a fantastic driver. Thanks for lowering all of our insurance rates.

  • @courtneyscott6857
    @courtneyscott6857 7 днів тому +1

    Don't do the California roll. Complete stop

  • @Killyang
    @Killyang 10 днів тому

    Instead of worrying about people committing minor traffic violations why don’t the police focus on arresting shoplifters and DAs focus on PROSECUTING them!!

  • @whenthewifedrives
    @whenthewifedrives 15 днів тому +4

    i thought they was talking about sushi

  • @gregmartinez5836
    @gregmartinez5836 15 днів тому +11

    If you completely stop people will HONK at you! 😂

  • @aether9061
    @aether9061 21 годину тому

    Killing someone = 4 years in prison
    Stealing toothpaste = life in prison and fine
    California "roll" = life in prison, fine, credit drop, house revoked, car revoked, custody of children taken away
    😂

  • @davidgreen3953
    @davidgreen3953 3 дні тому +1

    This is why people vandalized stuff..i dont get how a fake ticket can go to collections...

  • @Leonard_MT
    @Leonard_MT 15 днів тому +13

    This just proves that most stop signs in North America should be yield signs.

    • @JohnSmith-xx9th
      @JohnSmith-xx9th 15 днів тому +1

      Does that include Mexico?

    • @Leonard_MT
      @Leonard_MT 15 днів тому +1

      @@JohnSmith-xx9th I'm not 100% sure on stop sign usage in Mexico but considering that they basically also adopted the MUTCD, I think it is likely that Mexico overuses stop signs as well.

    • @WolfDShadow
      @WolfDShadow 14 днів тому

      ​@JohnSmith-xx9th based on how those who have illegally crossed the border drive clearly stop signs are a unknown concept to them.

    • @YodatheHobbit
      @YodatheHobbit 10 днів тому

      If you were in charge of anything millions would die.

    • @Leonard_MT
      @Leonard_MT 9 днів тому +1

      @@YodatheHobbit Oh, I guess Europe is a barren wasteland then. Apparently everyone died there because of yield signs.

  • @ronwade2206
    @ronwade2206 16 днів тому +6

    Here in Arizona we call that a New Jersey stop.

    • @Bryan-od7nv
      @Bryan-od7nv 15 днів тому +2

      The rest of the world knows it as a rolling stop. Not sure why it’s being named after states.

    • @collinsmuerte
      @collinsmuerte 15 днів тому

      Nope, people call it the California stop here

  • @TheHuskyK9
    @TheHuskyK9 11 днів тому +2

    If you aren’t authorized by state government to hand out citations, then you shouldn’t be handing out citations.

  • @laserbeamdaddy
    @laserbeamdaddy 7 днів тому +1

    They can keep on hoping, hold your breath. Even the perpetrators of the scam aren't even following their won rules with that truck rolling rolling rolling

  • @nannerz1994
    @nannerz1994 16 днів тому +12

    I don't quite understand why states feel like they pioneered the rolling stop😂 literally all 50 states and every single country on earth does this.

    • @Keith_from_LBC
      @Keith_from_LBC 16 днів тому +5

      It's quite possible that it's called a "California Roll" when it occurs in the state of California. 🤔

    • @foxtrotwolf6081
      @foxtrotwolf6081 16 днів тому

      I bet no states and no single country passes their driving test doing this.

    • @tonyli2918
      @tonyli2918 16 днів тому +1

      @@foxtrotwolf6081 Most other countries have yield signs instead, aka, 'rolling stop'

  • @Reezy884
    @Reezy884 16 днів тому +33

    There are more important things to worry about than people stopping at stop signs

    • @popcorn5130
      @popcorn5130 16 днів тому

      This is a dipsh*t comment.The system is primarily automated, so there aren't many people "worrying about" it... and it's lucrative (i.e., lots of "entitled" drivers who think they can disobey), so they can afford to have a few people handle the non-automated parts without detrimentally affecting all their other "worries."

    • @JohnSmith-xx9th
      @JohnSmith-xx9th 15 днів тому

      Very good point

  • @suhtangwong
    @suhtangwong 9 днів тому

    New law: Every driver who goes 1mph over speed limit should go to jail!
    Well, there goes every cop and the entire city....

  • @emmanuelpichay1808
    @emmanuelpichay1808 9 днів тому +1

    I wonder how they’re giving citation to local law enforcement😂

  • @timothya.olmeda7299
    @timothya.olmeda7299 15 днів тому +8

    Safety concerns with a stop sign that has virtually no pedestrian traffic and very little traffic.

    • @ribstogo12
      @ribstogo12 10 днів тому

      There's a sidewalk there.. and the video even shows a pedestrian walking their dog

    • @timothya.olmeda7299
      @timothya.olmeda7299 10 днів тому +1

      @@ribstogo12
      I said virtually no pedestrian traffic.
      The definition literally means “nearly/ almost.”
      Usually such exercises are conducted on busy streets where heavy foot traffic and road traffic is present.

    • @ribstogo12
      @ribstogo12 10 днів тому

      @@timothya.olmeda7299 I guess everyone rolling the stop will just have to get lucky then?
      If there's ANY chance of pedestrians, you better stop!

    • @timothya.olmeda7299
      @timothya.olmeda7299 10 днів тому +1

      @@ribstogo12
      When did I claim that no one should stop at a stop sign?
      I’ve been driving a motor vehicle for 38 years now, I know traffic laws and obey them, with no infractions.
      My op was directed towards the fact that they chose a place where nothing happens anyways, instead of a place that has more traffic incidents and is more dangerous to pedestrians and motorists.
      This isn’t rocket science here.

    • @YodatheHobbit
      @YodatheHobbit 10 днів тому

      That's the ENTIRE POINT of having it there. So that the rare instance when a person DOES CROSS happens, they don't end up dead.

  • @Dingus99268
    @Dingus99268 15 днів тому +2

    California roll? So they actually stop all the way in other states??

    • @sarahpercifield904
      @sarahpercifield904 15 днів тому

      Every state calls it after themselves.

    • @siberiaball6803
      @siberiaball6803 13 днів тому

      yes jimmy, everybody else is actually not a POS and follows the law as you should too

  • @shawnquinn9534
    @shawnquinn9534 2 дні тому

    I wrote a blog post about this back in 2013... I can't believe the MRCA is still at it. Honestly, most stop signs in the US should likely be replaced with yield signs, even in places like this, like they do in e.g. most of Europe. It's so obvious to me this is for revenue, not safety, and I'm glad the laws in Texas were changed to ban photographic enforcement of traffic laws.

  • @benbazy9238
    @benbazy9238 10 днів тому

    You have the right to go to court on this. If you do, MRCA will not go and the case will be dismissed because in this civil statute they are not entitled to legal fees even if they win so they will not spend $900 to get $100.

  • @BajatheChickenMan
    @BajatheChickenMan 16 днів тому +7

    These cameras need to go, wheres a group of rowdy teens?

    • @randomcommenter395
      @randomcommenter395 19 годин тому

      They’ll only do what makes them look cool and also know they’ll face no consequences for

  • @cdnrednek1027
    @cdnrednek1027 16 днів тому +8

    Really, california roll, is that the new name for running a stop sign. What drugs are yall on now?

    • @MrProy33
      @MrProy33 15 днів тому +1

      It's an old phrase. I heard people calling it that in the 70s, when I lived in Texas.

    • @Jewlawphin
      @Jewlawphin 15 днів тому +1

      Been called that forever. Get out from under your rock 😂

    • @NjD....
      @NjD.... 15 днів тому +1

      Been called a "California stop" in the Bay Area.. not a roll

  • @sonny5982
    @sonny5982 17 годин тому

    Californians are the best drivers in the country we deserve to be able to do our California roll

  • @soulassassin0g
    @soulassassin0g День тому

    I find it funny how the guy said it looked a citation disguised as junk mail lol

  • @ivandragomiloff2356
    @ivandragomiloff2356 16 днів тому +4

    Doing a California roll will get you fined…ok
    Stealing from stores, rioting, burning stuff down, looting, taking and selling drugs, squatting, blocking traffic to protests…will yield no consequences
    Gotcha

  • @pattilemonhouse7911
    @pattilemonhouse7911 15 днів тому +4

    Friend of mine contested an actual ticket for not coming to a complete stop. She had no lawyer, just another friend/witness who was in the passenger seat. On the stand the LEO said her stop wasn't long enough. Judge threw it out. The law doesn't state how long you are supposed to be stopped. Folks should contest tickets more often.

    • @letmein218
      @letmein218 15 днів тому +1

      rookie cop? didn't stop vs stop wasn't long enough...

    • @WolfDShadow
      @WolfDShadow 14 днів тому

      Except the tickets this scam is issuing never are registered to the courts so no way to fight them infront of a judge unless you file a lawsuit against the company since they instead send collection agencies after to to damage your credit score in order to make sure you pay them the bogus tickets.

    • @randomcommenter395
      @randomcommenter395 19 годин тому

      @@letmein218more like corrupt money hungry cop hoping they wouldn’t contest the ticket

  • @RTMonitor
    @RTMonitor 5 днів тому

    Honestly, for me, it's a bad habit to do the California Roll because you'll never know when a pedestrian shows up and have to stop before you'll go forward and double check with the road before crossing.

  • @Dixie_Normiz
    @Dixie_Normiz 7 днів тому +1

    Those cameras are like robo karens.

  • @ALookBackInTime
    @ALookBackInTime 16 днів тому +9

    Usually the same losers that floor it and barely make the yellow light because their lives are going nowhere fast.