Does older hardware still have value and is it worth flipping?? Flipping junk Episode 3
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Personally I've bought the magnetic dust screens and cut out a motherboard io backplate. I've done it a few times in the past on flips. It works pretty well.
I put together all my scraps and booted Ubuntu on it to learn it. This is a growing market, people learning coding, people with privacy concerns who need a machine to learn the Linux basics on (me), and people who want to try new things but don't want to spend $100s on software, an untapped market.
IKR? I had been using Windows for literally 30 years and I decided to try Linux (well, not for the first time ever, but this was my first REAL try as a full-time OS) and I gotta say I love it. Still have a few issues but it's fun to learn, and now that gaming support has evolved it's actually a viable replacement for Windows with about 90% success rate. Besides if I have issues there's ChatGPT that can help me troubleshoot, I cut and paste a log file or console output and it tells me what's wrong and how to fix it.
That's why Mint has been popular for years. It is Ubuntu based, and not so commercial and dodgy. I would rather build from the ground up, myself. I use Arch, btw.
AA 2nd Gen Intel processor combined with a 1080 Ti can still handle today's AAA games at 1080p and might even manage 1440p with some setting adjustments. Sure, there's no ray tracing support, but not everyone prioritizes that. I recently revived my old 2600K (overclocked to 4GHz on all cores) and paired it with an EVGA 1080 Ti SC2. It’s not on par with my 5950X and RTX 3080 setup, but it's definitely better than letting it go to waste.
Great review! Perfect for lighter gaming with just the right touch of RGB flair.
Just needs the RGB RAM.
Kubuntu linux can put a pep in any old PC's step.
lol. I use a 2007 iMac as my daily driver😂. Runs great too, I have Monterrey in it but I’ll be switching to sequoia using open core soon.
It's great to see older hardware still being used. Not everything needs to be a top of the line or even mid-ranged PC for daily stuff.
If you don't need macOS, you can always install a Linux distro. I've got a MacBook Pro 2012 that I have both macOS (Sonoma with Open Core) on and Debian 12, but I use Debian 12 the majority of the time. I only use macOS when I need something specific to it, which isn't often.
Nice,those can even run Windows or Linux as long as they have some amount of ram and an ssd
@ I dual boot Monterey and mint. I just use it for web surfing and most of all it is my tv, I don’t have cable I have sling/hulu plus all the sites that are showing bootleg movies/tv shows, and that gets me literally anything that I could want to watch. The iMac streams it all with zero effort but I worry about burning out newer equipment because I use it so much, but this is cheap to fix/replace
@@95Comics How much do old iMacs or Airs roughly go for used, these days?
Its a great value for learning older hardware or if your like me that started on the vic20, trs80 and has followed pc's since 1980s has great appreciation for how all this type of hardware has evolved than ya great value. Some older games will work great on these type of mixed pc's and some new games will work at lower resolutions. But honestly these are a great way to learn on how to build, tweak or add extra components to and see how much you can push it without burning the bank. The other thing as well is using roms and emulators , so you could load a ton of games from all sorts of systems onto a cheap ssd and turn around and sell it that way or add an extra gpu using crossfire or sli if the mobo allows it.
Pretty much the hardware I'm running right now, don't really care enough to really upgrade at the moment.
Not everything has to be a gaming PC. In the past I've sold many an office PC, sure the profit may be slimmer but it lets you get rid of hardware that otherwise you wouldn't. Some people just need a PC for office work and internet.
Another thing that might sell older PC's is if you tell people it is good for emulation not new consoles but older. You can sell the computer as is. But if they want it for emulation they can buy a hard drive or SSD with the emulation build on it. That way you keep yourself from getting in trouble selling PC's that have games downloaded on the hard drive or SSD. (But just a suggestion.)
Im still gaming on a sandy bridge and 580. Old hardware can still be good
Still have value? Depends on who wants it.
I'm sure kids who don't have a lot of money would love to have any kind of gaming PC, even if the parts are a decade old.
Agree with a lot of the other comments, I'd have installed a lightweight Linux desktop distro instead of hacking in Windows 11 that uses more resources than a lightweight Linux build and the linux build will probably last longer. There's a good chance that Microsoft breaks that hacked in W11 install with a major update at some point. The linix build will be good for at least 5 years if you installed a LTS version.
yeah but some games need anticheat which doesn't work under linux
@@finnbianga4189 so don't play those games and make a statement about whether or not the market wants that. Honestly I don't care about playing Fortnite.
The main purpose of the backplate is EMI protection. Hence why they are metal. Also meaning that 3D printed backplates miss the main purpose.
Nonsense... LOL
Good day sir
some of the better motherboards have built in io shields
first of all really like your videos. today i finished my budget build. mostly i used old pc parts like, 4th gen intel i5 and gtx 970 12gb ddr3 ram and buy cheap sata ssd and it's actually good im not expect like that
I think the backplates are called IO shields.
also mouse barriers ;)
Not a backplate but an I/O shield. 🙂
I've seen suggestions about installing Linux on this computer, I don't think it's a good idea.
The GTX 760 is based on the Kepler architecture. The open source driver Linux driver for nVidia GPUs, nouveau, doesn't support automatic reclocking on Kepler GPUs. The GPU will run at default clock speeds set at boot which are low. At the default clock speeds, most Kepler GPUs will still work on the desktop. However, the gaming performance with the default clocks will be poor.
It is possible to manually reclock Kepler GPUs to boost the frequency and performance. However, depending on the system, manually reclocking may work properly, or it may hard lock the computer. So Linux is a bad choice with this GPU for users who are not experts, the intended purchaser of this system.
For reasons not related to the lack of official support for Windows 11, I don't think Windows is a good OS for this system either.
Using Linux with the integrated video on the motherboard might be the best option with this hardware. The GPU still might be marketable as upgrade for someone with a computer already running Windows.
One problem I just recently had when I attempted to install the last driver update on my GTX 780 ti was that Windows 7 refused to allow it because it was an "unsigned driver" by "Microshaft." I had to turn off signed driver protection when I restarted my PC by hitting the F8 key if I remember and choosing that option. I guess that nVidia isn't bothering to get Microshaft's approval for their unsupported cards' drivers anymore. Also, I like that case! I don't worry too much about the presence of a DVD drive anymore.....not because I don't use them anymore because I DO have a LOT of game DVDs, but because I have a few portable USB DVD drives to just plug in. 👍👍
Again, that was not a scam PC. It's low-end for sure, but not a scam. A scam would be the seller selling it for something ridiculous like $800, but he was selling it for $65, iirc, and you got it for $40.
You're talking to a brick wall. If he says it's a scam it's a scam.....he either filmed this right after posting the first video or he just won't give up on the scam opinion even if everybody told him it wasn't a scam lol
It was a scam.
@@thewickedtim Bro...just quit it with the scam already. Entry level gaming does NOT mean Fortnite! Heck i can go buy a 60$ computer too and then complain i can't run Wukong or Elden Ring which i could consider as "entering the gaming world". Also guess what? He's selling this 3rd gen i5 as "entry level gaming" aswell but for 100$ minimum and it can't run the games i mentioned either. Should i buy it off him and then text him about not being able to play them on the cheap-ass computer i just bought?
@Mirra2003-f9s the difference here being he clearly shows the computer playing specific games and the type of performance the customer can expect from those specific games. The guy he bought the $40 "gaming" PC from did not.
Had he posted the posted the computer for $65 and said "entry-level gaming PC for 15 year old games" I'd be on your side but he was clearly trying to prey on people who know nothing about computer hardware. Which is a scam.
@@thewickedtim sellers don't care what the buyer wants from the rig. As a seller it only matters to list the real specs and put the correct price tag on it. I sold my older rigs too but guess what? I had buyers ASK me if it can run a certain game BEFORE they bought it and all i had to do was say yes or no. This is what he should have done before calling the guy a scammer - ask him if it can play Fortnite and see what his answer would be. It's not the sellers fault if the buyer is dumb. It really doesn't hurt to ask the seller or somebody who knows about this stuff if the computer can run what you want it to run. There are also millions of videos on youtube to see if the said specs can run it or not before you stick your neck out and buy it
I still use two Haswell systems with RTX cards, viable thanks to the AVX2. Xeon E3-1270 v3 with RTX2060S and Xeon E3-1285L v3 with RTX 4060. They still work great with Windows 11, great CPU/GPU pairing for 1440p high settings.
I'd like to see how far can that setup can be pushed, like upgrading to either an I7 3770K with overclocking, maxing out RAM capacity and speeds, use an SSD and fastest GPU without a bottleneck, etc... 😅
If MS actually closes the upgrading of older hardware with Win 11 25H2, then that hardware has a very short shelf life.
Not really, you can always go with a W7 installation, or use Linux, for emulation, and many other PC games, all this old hardware is still more than capable, it's not "obsolete" or "useless" just because you can't run the latest shittiest OS in the market.
I have several machines, even older than the one shown in this video still perfectly functional, and gaming capable, of course, don't try to run Cyberpunk on it, but for other stuff is still great, Warframe runs easily on a Athlon 860k with 16gb of ram and a GTX 960, just as an example, and even older: xeon X5460 modded to be used on socket 775 mobo's, with 8GB of ram, and the very same GTX 960, still capable in many games.
It's mostly the latest AAA games that have no optimization or require a really modern feature like Alan Wake remakes that don't run on these machines, and the highest con against them is shitty windows 10/11 experience on them cuz those OS's just LOVE to hog resources for no reason, but as i mentioned, just use a light weight linux distro or W7 and call it a day.
I have a couple of videos uploaded showing performance of one of these machines on Warframe and Genshin Impact.
I'm not worried because I can happily use Win 10 for years to come. I actually STILL use Win 7 in my main PC and except for a few games that require Win 10 to run, I have NEVER had a problem. I DO have a Win 10 machine for those need be. I actually once used Vista for years and never had a problem with that either. I would still like to get into Linux anyway as I really HATE "Microshaft's" constant spying and prying these days. Be well out there! 👍👍
@@arthurmann578 If you wanna try Linux, i can recommend EndevourOS, quite a good Arch based distro.
On the other hand i would tell you to avoid Ubuntu and Manjaro, they have become the windows of linux.
I feel like we are at the end of these 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen processors, and that this time next year will be the end.
Only enthusiasts will have the patience to learn Linux, and with no official support from Windows 11, the average person will not scour forums and youtube seeking a workaround.
I am new to PC myself and just did my first Optiplex myself. I really like the experience of doing and want to explore doing what you do. Im not sure about my local market, though.
Great video! I like that you take time to explain your process and are upfront with what you offer and charge.
I do want to ask, though, how do you power the LED strip that you added? And is it possible on an old office PC like an Optiplex, considering how proprietary most of the components are?
Thanks a lot!
most led strips like these use pata cables or argb from your mobo. Miheal LED Light Strip from amazon is what i used for the inside of my pc in my profile pic they use pata cables.
I wouldn't say CS 2 is a potato game. It's pretty demanding 😄
Great video! I have an I7 980x and Asus X58 Sabertooth MOBO laying around. Going to pair it with an R9 380 and post it for $150 like you stated. I have been doing well selling AM4 with Nvidia graphics cards but have passed on picking up cheap older gen combos. I think i'm to change my approach and see how it works out. Thanks again, subscribed!
2 , 3 yrs hehehe still getting plenty of yrs on my old i7 860 , still running strong used to run my 3d machine and cricut machine =3
it happened to me one time.. i have a ddr2 dell optiplex sff pc. one day i can't seem to start it. i opened it up. Lo and behold.. it smelled mouse pee.. dude shorted my rams.. so at that very moment when im building pc i make sure that there are no entrance for the little rascals.
Throw in a xeon with hyperthreading. It's gonna perfom better than just a plain old 3rd gen i5. Use a stripped down version of windows like ghost specter and finally use inspectre to disable meltdown and specter mitigations. Would definitely squeeze out a bit more performance.
@@yourbluewaffle
Exactly!!!
This would run Roblox, Basic Minecraft, some League of Legends and stuff like that
Easy buddy, you'll get called a scammer by the "pro" here... LOL
You forgot the "potato pc" gaming set:GTA V, Roblox, Minecraft.
I like that ASUS case with 5@ 5.25 bays and 2@ 3.5. I would use it to mount some HD enclosures and connect them through an external cable. For test use of course...
This was a set up yo bought for $65 I thought, so still $50 isn't bad if you part it out. There's not much upgrading you can do with that motherboard. It's DDR3 so yeah, that is about old and don't really care to invest in that and would not spend $150 for it. I got an Elite Desk G4 with 256G ssd, I5=8500k, 16GB ddr4 ram, a monitor and keyboard and mouse for $150. I got a GT 735 (i think) but a low profile gpu 4g ram but it barely fits in those jewel cases for the Elite desks cases. So it's ddr4 and the cpu is 6cores 6threads so this is older but absolutely wouldn't go back as far as the ddr3 but this might be worth $30 and maybe $50 if there's a monitor and keyboard/mouse combo. Those probably won't be able to run the internet in a few years, and I'd presonally just make them emulators and put old games on them...they'd be good for that...most definitely.
Router, could it be made into a router?? I have an old per AMD FX Gigabyte could it work? I wouldn't be using Windows anymore. Could you do one on this or get back to me?
It could work, but the FX is pretty high TDP. It could definitely work. It may not be the most energy efficient option available, but it could work.
I have a couple of MSI 970A Gaming Pro Carbon boards I have FX 9590's for, but I'm not going to use the 9590's. I'm going to opt for the FX 8300 to reduce power consumption and use them for some alternative use other than standard usage purposes. There are still some uses for them. If you don't mind using a little bit extra electricity, they'll work as a router.
Have my P8 Z77 deluxe with i7-3770k since new in 2013. Running strong, using MSOffice, Teams, UA-cam, Steam gaming. Asus GTX 1070 and 32GB of Corsair Vengeance, and of course best upgrade anyone can do for older systems is an SSD for OS and even Storage. Oh and a good PSU is paramount for longevity of any system. Great everyday computer. Good video btw, thanks
I'm not your target market, but personally I would use a potato like this with Linux. Maybe set it up as a router or a streaming device. Especially if I could get a micro ATX board and case. Old machines are far from useless.
@@PropaneWP not a good idea.
It has a powerful PSU.
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises What do you mean?
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises What in the world are you trying to say?
@@chrismay2298
The PC in question has a cpu ,with about 735 watt.
Even if it's ONLY 500 watt,it's still an overkill for a router.
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises Eh? You say CPU but I guess you mean PSU. I never really talked about that precise PC, which is why I said a different mobo and case would be better. The PSU doesn't matter too much either way, as long as it's cheap and works.
I have a case with that exact same model motherboard in it. I have it paired with a core i7 3770 with 16 gigabytes of ram. It's fun to pull out and play with Once In awhile.
my current everyday driver is an i5 3rd gen, geforce 1050TI with max 8gb system ram. i need a massive upgrade.
I have an area with 6 pcs set up I call the minecraft lounge. Most are 3rd gen i7.
You DO know, that you can set in the 1155 Xeon in there?
For cheap?
He KNOWs very little. Standard "fake it to make it" guy. This channel will be gone in less than a year.
Do you re-image the PC after testing before you sell it?
Just Sayin... how about exploring the middle range, Hp G3 , Lenovo mini's. Don't need 10 videos. But a look would be interestingly enough. Thanks.
I'd probably use that for a windows xp or linux pc for older games.
Definitely a viable use for it.
i5 750 oc 3.2Ghz+ r9 270x msi hawk 2GB[no oc]=120 fps[chosen limit] medium to high settings in CROSSOUT !!!!!
I have an old Toshiba Satellite A205 laptop that a neighbor gave (it's from 2007). I am seriously considering dropping a dual core CPU in it. Right now it has Core 2 Duo in it in a PGA 478 socket. Do you think that might make it a little more useful?
Umm, a Core 2 Duo is a dual core CPU. That's what the Duo means.
@@cdnron75 sorry. I misspoke. I meant to say it has a core 2 Duo right now. It is a T2330 1.6 GHz CPU. I actually meant to say I am thinking about putting a 2.18 GHz dual core CPU in it.
@@mikestanley9176
Do it.
Just double check the heatsink.
It MUST stand the heat of a stronger cpu.
The 750TI still getting the driver updates.
Because of being a "failed in testing 950" 😅
these build is good for flipping
I have found that only 6 core CPU's and above have any value when reselling PC's. Customers want options so I only do Intel 8 series and above because of Windows 11 lucky AMD has that option built in. Windows 11 and Older hardware is called TPM module and I have a bunch from China for this reason, as long at the board has a TPM module plug then all you have to do is pay about 10 US for the module and you can upgrade to 11.
how are you supposed to use the front ports if the front of the case is closed ?
If you have a MB and CPU that can overclock, matching RAM is actually very important! x58 Owner advice!😆
Window 11 killed used pc.
Linux
Have you ever built a fully water cooled PC?
How much should i sell a intel i 7 4790k abd a 1650?
I just sold a 4th Gen i7 CPU with RX 580 a few days ago for $250. Profit was low. I spent $167 on the build.
i know a kid stuck his finger in there cos there was not io sheild back plate and lost his finger it got chopped off by a fan, and a man put his chopper in there and it got cut off to he has to p down a tube now
Just now assemling a mini ATX with I7-4790,16 gb of DDR3,256 GB ssd,and 2 x500 gb hdds.
And an GeForce GTX 750 TI.
Oh,and since it "gaming pc" ,it gona had 2 RGB fans.
And try to sell for about 170 usd.
Of course there's money to be made when you get stuff for cheap, call the seller a scammer even though he made you a good deal, then flip if for triple. Eventually the people in your area are going to catch on and quit selling you stuff...
guys Im running a amd a8 9600 and a rx580 the whole thing cost like 130 bucks used
Wow, that's one of the first AM4 processors! It predates Ryzen!
Wouldn't a cheap, first or second gen Ryzen be more cost/performance efficient now, though? I picked up a 3600 for cheap, and it's my daily driver/gaming machine.
@@KimPossibleShockwave its not that good tobe honest i just took it because it was a free cpu and im planning on upgrading to Ryzen 5 1600x, a8 9600 does it job but it heavily bottle neck the rx580
@@ch4rs Still, free is free, heh.
What motherboard do you have? You don't have to go for a 1600X if you can get something like a 3600 for the same price, if your board supports it.
I heard Windows is trying to "fix" the way W11 can install on older hardware and I kinda don't want to take my chances. Decided last week to look for newer hardware that W11 supports ... but it makes a much more expensive build. Hope it will still sell for a profit, we'll find out soon enough.
Calling a PC that was selling for well under the sum value of the individual components a "scam". Lol.
You guys are low iq people who don't understand English. How many more times does he have to say "CALLING IT A GAMING PC WHEN IT CAN'T LAUNCH GAMES IS A SCAM".... which is TRUE. That CPU is missing some SSE4.1 instructions and won't launch at least 90% of games made after 2011, why are you bots confused.
What did the guy actually say back to you when you were telling him it was a scam PC?
He said in the previous video the seller told him to ***** himself and blocked him after he kept spamming him with messages about it not running Fortnite
@Mirra2003-f9s Kept reading these comments about this "scam PC" for $40. I think honestly any PC is okay for $40.
@@techwandoUS Well yeah,probably the only one not worth it would be an LGA 775 Pentium or Core 2 Duo as they are not worth much for either retro gamers or those who want to still use them today. Even an old Athlon XP,Pentium 2/3/4 system would probably cost more than those 40$ because they got value for collectors even if they are technically useless today
I'm always buying old stuff. ALWAYS. I never buy anything new.
What are the Intel ones up to now? 14th gen? Pft. Newest I own is 3rd gen, and it does everything I want it to. And I only have plans for a 4th Gen, and a 9th gen (i9) when the time comes. I don't want anything that won't run Win7 and/or prior. Hell, I still have a 386 and a 486. Everything has a use.
It's only idiot gamers that are worried about the latest and greatest. Since I'm not a gamer, I'm more concerned with capabilities in other areas. I like drives - lots of them. As many types as I can get my hands on. I like RAID arrays for data storage. The only difference is I don't buy AMD. Haven't bought any AMD hardware since the old Socket-7 days. And never will.
The tl;dr of it all is this: So long as there are folks out there that refurb and resell old shit, I'll be in line to shop.
You may consider AMD if you're ever considering anything Intel that's 13th, 14th, and it's unfortunately even beginning to look like 15th generation, unless there have been motherboard and chipset issues with 15th gen, so far. I've seen indications, unbelievably so after the 13th and 14th gen issues, of...instability issues...again. Again.
@@brianwesley28 There are no plans to. I won't be alive too much longer to worry about it, as my health is rapidly declining. The i9-9920X is likely to be the last computer I'll ever buy.
@The_DreadStorm I hope your heath improves. 🙏
Maybe someone can help, i have d6 on motherboard with videocard 3090 FE, previous card worked perfect motherboard is okay.
Yea, mini servers with Linux.
i5 3570
That wasn’t a scam PC, sure it’s low end but it’s not like calling it a entry level gaming PC is a scam. However the PC I saw earlier on Marketplace (“Basic Gaming PC” - i7-3700, 16GB RAM, no GPU included) was a scam.
It was a scam.
@ nah rofl
Ooof!
"No GPU" yet it was a "gaming" PC? Integrated graphics, or...? The 16GB RAM sounds nice though, even if it's just high range DDR3.
@ lol yeah it’s literally the precise definition of false advertising. Can’t be considered a gaming PC without a dedicated GPU. And of course, it has integrated graphics, but it’s an i7-3700
@@riffdex Ouch.
Well, I guess "technically" it was a 'gaming' PC, given it had an iGPU, but that's like saying a rabbit with a fake horn on its head is a jabberwocki, lol.
I heard something that epic games was not gonna be anymore
Old Nvidia cards work better on Linux...Bazzite OS or Garuda(gaming dragonized edition)
They get new updates for Linux...
If they are complaining that a mouse got into their PC because there was no io backplate that's a them problem! Maybe they should keep their house and yard clean then they wouldn't have to worry about rodents and roaches!
It doesn't matter how clean you keep your house and yard, rodents will try to find a way in when it gets cold outside. Especially if there is construction close by that is displacing them.
@cdnron75 if you say so
@@ObjDriven Lol. It's not if I say so. It's fact. That's how rodents operate. They can get in the tiniest cracks, you just have to find out where they're getting in and fix the problem. I've always kept a clean house and have had rodents before.
not a scam, downvote!
If they're selling for $40 I wouldn't even bother. Not worth your time. If you're not making > $100 it's probably not worth doing.
You bots in the comments defending the scammer are hilarious, you guys must flip garbage like that. Old AMD CPU's are missing SSE4.1 instructions and won't launch about 90% of games made after 2011. Advertising a "GAMING PC" that can only launch 5 ancient games in 2024 IS A SCAM, not sure what you guys are confused about. Even 1st Gen i7"s still work with new games, I know because I recently sold an i7 860 RX 560 4GB PC for $40 that would get a smooth 60fps(v-sync enabled) in Fortnite Perf. Mode High Textures / Far View Distance. Old Intel CPU's don't have the "missing SSE4.1 Instructions" like ancient AMD CPU's.
Hilarious when someone with a massively minority view comes in and tries to talk nonsense to the majority who know better. He didn't get scammed. If he's such a "pro", why would he buy it? How would such a great technician get scammed? Silly.
it sure does . i have done 5 linux mint pc's in the past month and people are loving not having to buy a new pc
All the sheep buy the new latest and fastest phones and pc spending over a 1000 bucks, getting price gouged the whole time, over and over again...only to scroll fbook, or watch youtube videos. You can do that on a 50 dollar phone. You do not need the latest and greatest, fools. Go watch the pc channels that use used parts only...you can thank me later. My $135 1080 ti still killin it!😂