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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2021
- From Best motoring series 2004
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Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 GSR
Engine 4G63 1994cc 16v DOHC 4
Max Power 280ps/6500rpm
Max Torque 40.8kgm/3500rpm
Weight 1410kg
Drivetrain F4
Subaru Impreza STI RA
Engine EJ20 1994cc 16v Flat 4
Max Power 280ps/6400rpm
Max Torque 42.0kgm/4400rpm
Weight 1350kg
Drivetrain F4
Honda NSX-R
Engine C32B 3179cc DOHC 24v
Max Power 280ps/7300rpm
Max Torque 31.0kgm/5300rpm
Weight 1270kg
Drivetrain MR
BMW M3 CSL E46
Engine 3245cc 24v DOHC 6
Max Power 360ps/7900rpm
Max Torque 37.5kgm/4900rpm
Weight 1430kg
Drivetrain FR
Honda S2000
Engine F22C 2157cc 16v DOHC 4
Max Power 250ps/8300rpm
Max Torque 22.2kgm/7500rpm
Weight 1260kg
Drivetrain FR
Mazda RX-8
Engine 13B-MSP 654cc X2
Max Power 250ps/8500rpm
Max Torque 22.0kgm/5500rpm
Weight 1310kg
Drivetrain FR
Honda Integra DC5 Type-R
Engine K20A 1998cc 16v DOHC 4
Max Power 220ps/8000rpm
Max Torque 21.0kgm/7000rpm
Weight 1180kg
Drivetrain FF
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Sick of all the comments suggesting it was rigged because M3 couldn’t pass NSX.
This is not the usual 5-lap flat out battle, but a 20 minute mini-endurance in the summer.
This took place in extreme heat. Air temperature 32C, track temp 43C. Drivers are reporting during the race the temp inside the car at 40C or sometimes 50C. Of course no one is using air conditioning.
You can see each car equipped with an oil temp (“O.TEMP”) and water temp (“W.TEMP”) monitor and the subtitles keep showing these figures as 油温 and 水温 along with the lap time.
All drivers are managing their driving not to push too hard to get overheated.
At 6:27 the O.TEMP of the M3 hits 140C and the big blue lamp flashes and Ryo Michigami, the driver, had to back down.
The narrator is saying in the 2001 endurance race, though the air temp was different, the oil temp on the M3 only went up to 111C and kept a steady pace at 9 seconds, so perhaps the cooling is tougher with the CSL with beefed up power.
Then at 10:38 the temp meter malfunctions. O.TEMP doesn’t change from 140C - not updating from the peak value as the PEAK indicator doesn’t go out - and W.TEMP value is unavailable.
At 12:45 M3 is doing 7-second laps closing down on the NSX who’s doing 8-second laps, and gets right behind at 13:45.
But at 14:11 the O.TEMP hits a new high of 142C as he ran behind closing in on the NSX for several laps, and Michigami decides not to push further, remarking the lamp isn’t working.
Really cheap of anyone to insult Ryo Michigami’s competence or suggest it was fixed.
This... So much this...99% of the people in these comments are just straight up brain damaged, specially that 1 honda fanboy who thinks any other manufacturer are dogshit lmao.
He could have passed the NSX in the beggining. But he chosed not to.
@@thesis4349 And here we have evidence of said brain damage
@@CurtisSmalHes one of a huge majority. I cant get over how stupid a lot of people are on here.
Fun fact this was filmed at Very hot summer in Japan
That's why it's an endurance race ✌️🙂
I dont understand why so many people arent getting it. So worried about the results and 'this car shouldve won' etc.
As an Evo fan I'm more impressed with the RX8 keeping the temps low as it is a rotary.
@@vitalhygiene3546 no turbo =no intercooler
@@vitalhygiene3546
Unfortunately, none of the rx-8s have a turbo or intercooler.
This race is not allowed to be modified.
The rx-7 is a turbo engine.
Just for the record Rx8 doesn't have forced induction or an intercooler it's a na rotary. An na cars don't run intercoolers why would they.
@@vitalhygiene3546 Incorrect. The RX8 does not have an intercooler, nor forced induction, nor intercooler. You are just plain wrong.
The RX8 does have 2 factory oil coolers, otherwise it would be a cauldron of boiling oil! :)
現在、この車たちを集めて完全メンテして走らせると億掛かるかも
Mitsubishi evolution destroying hope's and dreams in the first corner 😂
Lmao the shitbox evo started at front otherwise it would've finished at the back. Mitsubishi are slow shitboxes compared to Honda..
@@hondasarefaster5914 I don't think it's a fact(Except in the case of NSX).
@@hondasarefaster5914 How ? the evo had the fastest rounds overall + it had no splitscreen, nah cuz u just mad and cant appreciate a good car
@@Morsmus na not mad at all and i don't appreciate because lancers are shit cars. My Honda blows the ass off shitbox evo..
@@hondasarefaster5914 stay mad brah
I love to do the same races in forzamotorsport 7, like after watching a video like this, I go ahead and load up the game on my Xbox/pc and pick the same cars that were raced and i either pick the same car that won 1st place or I pick the last place car and then I see what I can do.
Really surprised the evo and STI took the NSX
It not the car it’s the person who drives 😉
@@raineljournet4904 they’re all professional race car drivers the turbo cars took it on the straight and nsx caught up in corners
@@raineljournet4904 Just check the torque, EVO and STI are all over 40, they got turbo, NSX is lighter in weight but it's NA, and EVO MR, STI Spec C, they have actually about 320 hp
I can't trust technique of Honda driver this race.
@@gpxjimmy not only that but with awd, the sti and evo can easily match the nsx’s great handling
Evo wipes the floor with it's rivals once again
Yeah, mitsubishi
Before it rusts away to nothing…
thanks Jack for your videos!!!that was epic!!!
Thank you for commenting Eli! I appreciate it!
@@JackKello thank you m8!;)
Evo!!!💪
Shitbox
Evo💪
Shitbox
That mr tho 😤😮
surprised the subie didn’t just blow up as soon as it lined up with those temps
Then when they sell the cars.. “100% stock, non smoker, never raced and abused” lol while oil temp was 140 degrees and it was this close to say bye
That Driver was holding back in that CSL
cos it started overheating like bi**h?
@@Rwd1011 NSX too
@@flakkanone_0929 The NSX R actually started overheating after the m3.
Mitsubishi always become the best the oldest the first japanese car manufacturer and heavy industry aircraft, ship, rocket ect..
Fucken bullshit, stop talking shit. Mitsubishi are garbage and have never been the best..
If it wasn't for the high temps,the M3 would've won.
Evooo ❤️❤️
Shitbox
That why 10w60 doing great on during hot day.. oil got thicker during high stress.. got for turbo track use
I don't know why the CSL was moving so slow... It literally can keep up with modern sports cars but it's not moving faster on the straights. Hmm...
Its fake, dude… japanese cars always win ))
Seens like he has some problem
It was overheating just like the nsx
The dirver had to drive slow or the engine would fail.
It’s crazy how many people have completely missed the point of this race
NSX and M3 oil temps for up to 280-287 degrees Fahrenheit. I would've been backing off at around 260 if it was my personal car. 280+ is HOT.
it was a race managing oil temps so the N/A cars had big disadvantage since high revving engines have faster moving parts, but the RX8 is different being a rotary which doesn't have pistons and much less moving parts in general so it has less friction in the engine that's why the oil temps where even lower than the water temps.
Na engines have a big advantage in the fact that they dont have turbos which can reach up to 1000 celsius under full throttle conditions. And turbos are mostly cooled by oil and coolant lines.
Na cars suffer more from heat soak than turbo cars with big intercoolers like the evo/impreza as the intake temps rise up.
@@Modi_ yet the exact opposite happened, all the Turbo cars were fine it was the N/A cars that had the high oil temps.
Lancer Evo is a legend. But I need to buy an NSX-R.
Mitsubishi the best very fast very good sterling, Subaru second, Honda, Nissan . Mitsubishi is the best Japanese manufacturer car
Eclipse cross
Stop talking bullshit, shitbox mitsubishis are not fast, they're not the best, they're not first or second best Japanese made car nor is the shitbox subaru...
@@hondasarefaster5914 you could not throw out the truth facts, Mitsubishi is born 1870 and Mitsubishi first car was made in 1917 , Honda only exist in 1948 and first Honda bikes was 1950sbut Honda car born 1963
@@joslyrasitrasitrabeh7825 who gives a fuck about all that, i responded to what you said and i repeat...no mitsubishi are not fast and not the best and definitely not the best Japanese made car...
This is a endurance race. The NSX is still the better and faster car. Stop talking nonsense
So the M3 CSL which runs a 10W-60L oil and has a factory fitted oil cooler, still can't manage thermal oil cooling as well as other japanese performance cars which lack a cooler, like NSX, S2000.
What name ori Canal?
At the normal conditions, they cant challange with CSL
I feel for the drivers who had to drive with those suits in this heat😢😢
That was a spec C STI...he should have taken that EVO
and if it was an RS Evo it would lose, Evos always have the advantage because of the AYC, always have, the imprezas have always been beyond on tech.
Subaru underseer like crazy man then oversteers interesting
All of them do. Its painful to watch. After a few laps its terminal understeer. I dont know why the manufacturer insisted on it being like that. Every race is lost on the cars dreadful handling
@@weallfollowmanutd its cuz the impreza is the only car there thats not track oriented. even the STI is meant for everyday use, especially in low traction areas, but the awd is much simpler than the evos AYC system; id bet the automatic wrx or legacys might to better for track because they have more sophisticated awd systems than their MT counterparts.
Mitsubishi GSR number One best always winners
Pilot s2000 ✌️
NSX-R short shifting not even pressing the accelerator pedal fully
You know they’re pressional race car drivers
@@ramiahwhitney9 and you know the NSX will beat the Impreza, all are professionals but not drive the same way 😉
You know the nsx was riding at 140c oil temps so had to back off
lol this isn't normal race, this is endurance. that's why every car has oil and water temperature. nsx and csl can't push it's limit due to oild temp.
professional driver knows what's best for the car in terms of endurance.
Il est resté au point mort avec la M3 ?
C'était une course d'endurance, où quand l'huile montait trop en température, ils devaient ralentir, sinon tu abîme le moteur.
Tu as pas remarqué qu'ils indiquaient les températures huiles et liquide de refroidissement à chaque tour ? Et qu'il y avait un girofare qui se déclenchait?
Evo destroying hype cars as usual.
Evo is the king of the tracks
yes bro👍
Like fuck fanboy, evo are shitboxes and type r Honda is king of the tracks...k series engines shit on gutless 4g63 garbage..
Not really. The NSX it's still the better and faster car. But this is an endurance with the goal of keeping the temps down.. that's why the M3 and the NSX-R slow down both NA and the Turbos were happy with the cool temps.
@@ToyotaAristo As a fan of Honda don't be so upset and find excuse for getting defeated, NSX is faster than Evo on the straight but not on the corners. NSX can be faster due to the light weight, two doors and twin turbo. Evo and impreza are 4 doors, heavy weight, single turbo and only 280hp for maximum still can able to defeat the two doors sport cars so the doors 4 should be the best.
@@Japsown what??? NSX is not twin turbo and the NSX-R, EVO and RX-7 RS are all 1:04 capable in this track. And the evo is not "heavyweight" in fact its a very light awd car that's why it is fast in short tracks but in Nurburgring is 20+ slower to the NSX-R. The subaru is not even competition to the evo or the NSX.. Name one japanese car with with a better chassis, better driving experience, better aerodynamic, better everyday usability and reliable as a Honda v6.
Evo 🔥
Shitbox
Not sure what happened in this race. Nsx was about to pass the Impreza then backed way off. The M3 was about to pass the nsx then backed way off. You can really see it when you compared their best laps with the worse laps.
Overheating i guess. At @6.30 they even mark the screen with the temp
maybe that's because it got too hot for the car? or just the drivers slowed down for cooling the car a bit
It is not possible that it was too hot far a NA engine and the turbo engines were ok despite the full throttle for 5 laps. It's a joke
@@saffasa I don't know, just guessing from the images in the video. And they clearly show the M3 running hot. I suppose the other engines have better cooling systems?
@@saffasa But I agree, the turbo engines should logically run warmer
secuential vs manual... is not the = league (not equal)
The M3 CSL always comes with SMG. The normal M3 wouldn't be the better choice for this track battle.
There's no way that M3 CSL would have easily beaten the other cars in standard euro trim. Same with the NSX-R it would easily Beag the imprezza and evo on track if all.were standard
i think you underestimate the power of 4wd at Tsukuba
@@brunosuicida6791 yes He does
@@brunosuicida6791 yes. Poor tarmac and a slow circuit needs AWD cars
@@brunosuicida6791 you need to learn more about the NSX , it’s not the car it’s the driver 😉
To an extent I agree. The M3 CSL has a Nürburgring time of 7 mins 56 sec, compared to the EVO 8 GSR time of 8 mins 15 sec. But it also comes down to the track, and the driver...
Poor engine on the NSX. The oil mustve been like jelly at the end
RX−7ではなくて8…
FD RX7 is a different kinda beast. RX7 is much faster than an 8.
E46 M3 CSL's driver was a total joke or he was told to hold back his car. That S54 barely seen it's rev limit, if any at all. These cars are not in the league of the E46 M3, let alone the CSL.
Yes, I agree. It is so obvious that the CSL was holding back, the whole time. And I don't know why they need to do that so obviously? NSX is a really really special, I respect it but the CSL should easily taken it
CSL is an expensive car with an expensive engine.Neither the nsx-r driver push hard cause of the conditions.It wasn't a 3 laps battle full throttle.It was a 20min race in very hot conditions.If they try to push hard all the race the possibilities of an engine failure were really high.That's the reason of the water/oil temperature gauges in each car.When the oil temperature is above 130 celsius the engine is in danger.If it's over the 140 celsius the oil basicaly does nothing to lubricate,it's like water.So the engine failure is very close if you keep pushing near the rev limit.That's the reason they hold back.To protect the engine.And you're wrong about the csl and the nsx-r.Never an e46 csl was better than the na2 nsx-r.
Yes i totaly agree
I do agree too, the CSL has a faster Nürburgring time than all of the other vehicles in this video by a somewhat decent margin. But the CSL's oil temp went up pretty high according to the video, so I'm assuming he decided to back off at that point. I will say though that this isn't the first race where some weird things happened with these guys.
Then that would be the fault of the shitty SMG trans then...
CSL has the wrong wheels - would have worked against it. NSX-R though 👹
8じゃん🥺
Eng sub pls
Struggling to find subs... unfortunately I'm not japanese speaking
Jack Kello thats sad but i imagine you got many japanese subscribers, maybe they could help you out
Yes 😭
西洋人にとってドイツメーカーが負けたのは、プライドが許さないのだろうな。日本語がわからないから熱耐久レースなのも知らない。
Big dislike for Bmw driver, its look hes go on half gas ..
And shift at 6k
@@fortheapex The car is overheating
Also the NSX had the same problems
The limit heat is 140°c if the car pass that they have to slow down and let the engine cool down a bit
@@flakkanone_0929 that's nothing bmw motors runs hot
Some of you lot are so weird. Isnt it clear to you what kind of race this is. Even in Japanese I get it.
Shit was rigged m3 shoulda won
Omg what is wrong with you lot? The test is endurance to see which engine keeps cool the longest/keeps a high average speed. Bloody hell. Keep up!
一般消費者目線では金額を揃えてレースして欲しいな。マークX3.5がBMW320をぶっちぎって周回遅れにしてしまうとか。
五味という評論家はパワー以外全てにおいてBMW320がお勧めと言っていた。一般消費者にとっては価格と信頼性が一番なのを気付かない無責任極まりない自動車評論家。
最近、本当に自動車評論家の質が落ちたと思います。西川淳みたいなのもいるし。
自動車は白物家電では無いというのと、「（ベストモータリングを見るような）一般消費者」という事なんでしょうね。
BMWに独特の価値を見出すかは人それぞれなので、誰にでもおすすめかは判りませんが。
五味氏は電気自動車買え買え論者ですからね
インフラまともに揃ってない、盆暮正月はディーラー系すら店閉めて充電できないとか、
ユーザー目線ではない事をつらつら言いますからね、あの人は
Fake race! NEVER is that oil temperature going to happen at the M3 CSL. I‘ve done motorsports on BMW‘s for years. CSL would have wiped the floor with all the opponents…the old school turbos have more stable temperatures than the NAs🙈😏
It's obvious that the European vehicles are never running 100% on best motoring they drive will npcs lmao
@@fortheapex fun fact this filmed in Summer, means it's super hot in Japan 🤣
That's why the NA is losing a bit
Sorry, this race is absolutely cheated. (1) NSX-R and CSL lose ground on the straights?? (2) Both n/a have higher oil temperatures than the turbos?? NOT possible!! turbos must be tuned in power and cooling system or NSX-R and CSL complete air intakes have been sealed to reduce power via spark reduction and to increase temperatures. NSX-R and CSL belong to the fastest cars on the 21km Nordschleife and after two laps in Tsukuba oil temperatures are exploding??? Sorry guys, no way!!
Oh my god you sound like you are 5 years old 🤣
sometimes only 5yr old can notice the truth
NSX are known to have poor cooling and brakes.
In other races CSL is competing with Gallardo, GT3, and NSX-R ist destroying all of them including 360 Modena...but can’t compete with Impreza and Evo. Nothing against these cars, but this is nonsense.
@@JK-zz4lb look at the OAT and track temperature. I cannot speak about the CSL but I can tell you the NSX suffers from overheating and brake temperature issues on track.
Very inaccurate results as usual on these Japanese Racing channels M3 should've been first Evo second NSX third RX8 4th STI 5th Acura 6th somehow they got it the complete opposite but i guess its a Japanese channel so they have to make the Japanese car win or they will lose their jobs
nsx is faster than m3, this is an endurance race, so they not running to the limits all the time couse they have to manage tires, oil temp and water temp....
This dude is in denial yall 😂🤣🤣
Hahahah talk about ignorance...cant you see both the m3 and the nsx were suffering with their oil/water temps?...
If it was "manipulated" like you are saying why would the nsx be soo far behind and not at the top fighting with the evo?
This race was set in the very hot summer days. Those cars would've burn to hell if not for them not holding back.
I love how they decide 140 is too much for the M3 that uses 10w60 oil but 138 is ok for the rest 😂 BMI is always hilarious when there are German cars there