I wonder if there are some later videos of this Hans's rocker, as it reached 847 Hp and 950 Nm , .... that must be insane fast , at that low weight ....
That was superb! I don't know what the blue banner in German said in the top right corner just before the end though. Amazing to see how much grip the car didn't have at the start with cold tyres and how much that turbo can spin up the rears in 2nd and 3rd. And when he reeled in and past that cheeky De Tomaso Pantera who passed him at the start I cheered! Great stuff. Just a shame he could quite grab 1st from the Porsche although at one point I thought he had him...
this is a dp-Porsche 935. some 911 were modified with the dp (company name: design plastic) bodykit and the engines were changed to single -or biturbo. dp also created the bodykit for the Kremer Porsche 935-K2 and K3.
I guess you mean the Blow Off valve ? All the wastegate does is to bypass exhaust past the turbine housing when desired boost is reached, so it doesnt overboost. BOV releases excess boost pressure, tho I _think_ he is without BOV so this is actually compressor surge :)
@ScarfaceHood Da sind 30 Jahre Entwicklung zwischendrin, ein Gr.5 Wagen mit brachialer Beschleunigung und Stahlscheibenbremsen, mechanischer Einspritzung etc. war extrem schwierig zu beherschen, ..und trozdem gleichschnell wie ein moderner Supersportler von Porsche mit aktueller Fahrwerks -Motor -Getriebe und Bremstechnik...
tolle fahrt.irgendwie ist er die ersten zwei runden den m1 nur warmgefahren.hätte gerne geshen was noch passiert wäre wenn die dichtung gehalten hätte.
Die Porsche 935 waren je nach Ausbaustufe mit 635 (935-I) bis 850PS (Moby-Dick, Kremer K4) angegeben. Vom BMW M1 Schitzer Turbo sagt man, er hätte im Training über 1000PS mobilisieren können und im Renntrimm noch immer gute 850PS gehabt
Sometimes it seems like the fuel is being cut very momentarilly or the blowoff valve is just openning up for no reason. Does anyone have any idea of what could be wrong? example: 5:50
it is hard to see for me, but I think he is hitting the rev limiter. its okay to do this in a turbo car to maintain high boost levels through a powershift, people even do this in their turbo hondas. i think that is what we are hearing
That porsche got a crazy camber on the rear tires! omg i would love to drive those cars... Specially groupe C cars but everyone can't. I hope my dream would become true T_T anyway i'm going to drive a Mazda 787B with clutch on gt5 sadly lol
Das ist mir auch klar. Ich rede allein davon, dass man in den Siebzigern zwar schon deutliche Fortschritte in Sachen Abtrieb und Luftwiderstand gemacht hat, aber eben noch nicht auf einem höheren Niveau....
Oh REALY,! So where was your de tomato after lap 3 then,? Yet again Americans Can't build a decent car they have to come to Western Europe to buy something half tidy, and not to mention Two Western European cars with there own engines in them blitz a poxy Over sized V8, when. 5+ litre CANT outrun cars with half the sized motor in them then it's got to tell you something, yank V8s are Crap...... B.M.W. M Tec.... Because life's to short to drive shit
kartik bajaj Yea realy,!! In what motor sports outside of America was that then, because if your talking about Western Europe they were like the rest of American crap one big joke, even there G.T.40s where in the early days (a British sport car ) and the Cobra yet another British sport car was driven to victory by British born Ken Miles and New Zealander and British World Champion race car drivers, they have been 30 years behind the rest of the world for ages, lotus engineers had to over see the building and production of one of the corvette motors, they maybe alright in the states, but there's a whole wide world outside of the states read to take them on and show them how to build Cars and motors
@@rogerhearn7109 are you dumb or what it's 21st century in todays time qmerican cars is not about straight line speed but also good in handling. Even a camaro is much better in handling in todays time and don't forget mustang they give serious competition to european supercars as well... don't be nit picky try apericiate things
also was den le mans porsche 917 angeht(steve mc queen film etc).der hat doch den rekord über 30 jahre gehalten !!! erodünamik hin oder her. das heck hob sich auf der geraden etwas,der fahrer konnte den himmel im spiegel sehen,da hat man einfach den flügel ein bisschen abgeschnitten und los gings.das war anfang der 70iger soviel ich weiss.
Geiler Klang, auch wenn er den Wagen nicht gaaanz ans Limit gebracht hat...bei 9:33 gibts zudem 'nen netten Gruß ans Getriebe...gibts nix...aber im Vergleich zum Gruppe B S1 Quattro fast schon lahm. Aber: Automobilgeschichte! Da führt kein Weg dran vorbei!
Schon beeindruckend was die Gruppe 5 Autos für einen Vortrieb hatten. Obwohl man in den Siebzigern ja einen großen Fortschritt in Sachen Aerodynamik gesehen hat, waren diese Autos auf den Rundstrecken der Welt nicht schneller als ein Cup Porsche von heute.
Very nice car! There is a real M1 revival going on this year! These 2 M1 Turbo's have got back on track, and we did the same with the BMW March M1 for the first time in 28 years! (the car for what this engine was actually meant, but never happend) Look at my channel for vids!
Du redest hier aber von Le Mans, da brauchte man auch so wenig Abtrieb wie möglich um hohe Endgeschwindigkeiten zu erreichen. Das ist klar, dass die Auto da schwer beherrschbar sind und abheben wollen. Ich meine aber Strecken wie die Nordschleife, auf der man eben viel Abtrieb braucht, den man zu der Zeit aber eben noch nicht so wirklich hatte.... Außerdem stammt deine Rechtschreibung wohl offensichtlich aus dem Kindergarten.
i have never in my life heard anything like this. it is absolutely insane how that sounds, craziest turbo noise i have ever heard hands down
I wonder if there are some later videos of this Hans's rocker, as it reached 847 Hp and 950 Nm , .... that must be insane fast , at that low weight ....
Looks like a real handful certainly in the wet, but once that turbo kicks in and the tires hook up....well, nothing like it. Amazing and good driving.
what a joy to watch this... wow that turbo kicking in.. after a short lag it just flies
It surely does .... !!! 😀
Is brother hans still alive , and is he still racing with his latest tune at 847 Hp/950Nm ?
I love the sound of the waste gate on that turbo!
And especially the Blow-Off valves ....
Alter! Watn geiler sound! Da geht mir doch glad einer ab!
Respect to Mr Wagner for taming this beast!!!
Thank you so much motorsportvideo, this vid is a must(as usually with yours :) )
That was superb! I don't know what the blue banner in German said in the top right corner just before the end though. Amazing to see how much grip the car didn't have at the start with cold tyres and how much that turbo can spin up the rears in 2nd and 3rd. And when he reeled in and past that cheeky De Tomaso Pantera who passed him at the start I cheered! Great stuff. Just a shame he could quite grab 1st from the Porsche although at one point I thought he had him...
this is a dp-Porsche 935. some 911 were modified with the dp (company name: design plastic) bodykit and the engines were changed to single -or biturbo.
dp also created the bodykit for the Kremer Porsche 935-K2 and K3.
Thumbs up is the DRM Mod brought you here.
wow looks like a nightmare to control. Lots of lag, all that boost at the top end. Glad my 335i came with 2 smaller near lagless turbos.
Tolles Video und tolle Hintergrundinformation! Danke
I guess you mean the Blow Off valve ?
All the wastegate does is to bypass exhaust past the turbine housing when desired boost is reached, so it doesnt overboost.
BOV releases excess boost pressure, tho I _think_ he is without BOV so this is actually compressor surge :)
Der Vortrieb ist ganz akzeptabel ;-)
@ScarfaceHood Da sind 30 Jahre Entwicklung zwischendrin, ein Gr.5 Wagen mit brachialer Beschleunigung und Stahlscheibenbremsen, mechanischer Einspritzung etc. war extrem schwierig zu beherschen, ..und trozdem gleichschnell wie ein moderner Supersportler von Porsche mit aktueller Fahrwerks -Motor -Getriebe und Bremstechnik...
Awesome car and driving. Did the 935 and M1 turbo where in the same class when they raced?
Impressionnant.
Beast. Turbo lag, only for heroes!!
GO 935!! both sick turbo cars
turbo laaaaaag........brilliant, excellent! :D
kinda sounds like they developed a boost leak at the end there.
tolle fahrt.irgendwie ist er die ersten zwei runden den m1 nur warmgefahren.hätte gerne geshen was noch passiert wäre wenn die dichtung gehalten hätte.
Very nice! But the NA engine sounds so much better...
@JonesBerg76 Der gelbe Porsche im video ist ein 935, auch aus den siebzigern.
was hatte den der M1 für ne Leistung gegenüber dem Porsche?
kann mir jemand sagen wieviel PS der M1 hatte?
und der Porsche flachschnautzer?
Die Porsche 935 waren je nach Ausbaustufe mit 635 (935-I) bis 850PS (Moby-Dick, Kremer K4) angegeben. Vom BMW M1 Schitzer Turbo sagt man, er hätte im Training über 1000PS mobilisieren können und im Renntrimm noch immer gute 850PS gehabt
what is that yellow Porsche in front?
M88/2 motor?
Yes they did. The M1 Turbos were less reliable though.
Formula.. what ?? THIS IS AWESOME !
is he hadn't broken out the manifold gasket at 15:55 min that porsche would be overtaken.
yes
@dnael: nein, kein Alien! Krümmerdichtung ist kaputt gegangen!
Sometimes it seems like the fuel is being cut very momentarilly or the blowoff valve is just openning up for no reason. Does anyone have any idea of what could be wrong? example: 5:50
it is hard to see for me, but I think he is hitting the rev limiter. its okay to do this in a turbo car to maintain high boost levels through a powershift, people even do this in their turbo hondas. i think that is what we are hearing
was ist bei 03:35 mit Pantera? Nitro? :-)
IL piacere di guidare una F1... Elegantemente carrozzata.
alien at 15:48!
Was ist das für ein rotes Auto, was Ihn in Runde 1, vor der Dunlop-Kehre überholt?
DeTomaso Pantera
bmw should build a new m1
That porsche got a crazy camber on the rear tires! omg i would love to drive those cars... Specially groupe C cars but everyone can't. I hope my dream would become true T_T anyway i'm going to drive a Mazda 787B with clutch on gt5 sadly lol
what's the name of that red Ferrari
The Ferrari is a DeTomaso Pantera.
@@motorsportvideo yea u right
turbosounds at it's best.....!!!! :D
:-( The naturally aspirated procar M1 seems far superior (response, flexibility, noise...)
not speed 😎
What is a Yellow car ? It´s a porsche 935 ?
Monsterhunteter Porsche DP 935.
Das ist mir auch klar.
Ich rede allein davon, dass man in den Siebzigern zwar schon deutliche Fortschritte in Sachen Abtrieb und Luftwiderstand gemacht hat, aber eben noch nicht auf einem höheren Niveau....
That Detomaso Pantera flew past! american V8 in a italian car works i guess!! :D
Oh REALY,! So where was your de tomato after lap 3 then,? Yet again Americans Can't build a decent car they have to come to Western Europe to buy something half tidy, and not to mention Two Western European cars with there own engines in them blitz a poxy Over sized V8, when. 5+ litre CANT outrun cars with half the sized motor in them then it's got to tell you something, yank V8s are Crap......
B.M.W. M Tec.... Because life's to short to drive shit
@@rogerhearn7109 why so salty man... all maschine has emotion and to be clear corvette was dominating in motorsport so much that it became a legend
kartik bajaj
Yea realy,!! In what motor sports outside of America was that then, because if your talking about Western Europe they were like the rest of American crap one big joke, even there G.T.40s where in the early days (a British sport car ) and the Cobra yet another British sport car was driven to victory by British born Ken Miles and New Zealander and British World Champion race car drivers, they have been 30 years behind the rest of the world for ages, lotus engineers had to over see the building and production of one of the corvette motors, they maybe alright in the states, but there's a whole wide world outside of the states read to take them on and show them how to build Cars and motors
@@rogerhearn7109 are you dumb or what it's 21st century in todays time qmerican cars is not about straight line speed but also good in handling. Even a camaro is much better in handling in todays time and don't forget mustang they give serious competition to european supercars as well... don't be nit picky try apericiate things
also was den le mans porsche 917 angeht(steve mc queen film etc).der hat doch den rekord über 30 jahre gehalten !!! erodünamik hin oder her. das heck hob sich auf der geraden etwas,der fahrer konnte den himmel im spiegel sehen,da hat man einfach den flügel ein bisschen abgeschnitten und los gings.das war anfang der 70iger soviel ich weiss.
There is a shark lurking in those waters
Geiler Klang, auch wenn er den Wagen nicht gaaanz ans Limit gebracht hat...bei 9:33 gibts zudem 'nen netten Gruß ans Getriebe...gibts nix...aber im Vergleich zum Gruppe B S1 Quattro fast schon lahm.
Aber: Automobilgeschichte! Da führt kein Weg dran vorbei!
Not me, I LOVE IT!!!
Anyone know what happened at 15:48?
BAD ASS
Schon beeindruckend was die Gruppe 5 Autos für einen Vortrieb hatten. Obwohl man in den Siebzigern ja einen großen Fortschritt in Sachen Aerodynamik gesehen hat, waren diese Autos auf den Rundstrecken der Welt nicht schneller als ein Cup Porsche von heute.
It is a 935 by Kremer
No.
It has no Torque at lower RPM !!!
a honda prius owner and a camaro '94 owner.
If Yorkie bars made cars this one would most certainly not be for girls!!!
Very nice car!
There is a real M1 revival going on this year!
These 2 M1 Turbo's have got back on track, and we did the same with the BMW March M1 for the first time in 28 years! (the car for what this engine was actually meant, but never happend)
Look at my channel for vids!
wow *-*
Sounds like a leak...
Two guys who should strongly question their sexuality....
only balless drivers complain about turbo lag having a giant turbo
Prius repellent
ziemlich schwach f ein m1 turbo
treehuggers...
Du redest hier aber von Le Mans, da brauchte man auch so wenig Abtrieb wie möglich um hohe Endgeschwindigkeiten zu erreichen. Das ist klar, dass die Auto da schwer beherrschbar sind und abheben wollen. Ich meine aber Strecken wie die Nordschleife, auf der man eben viel Abtrieb braucht, den man zu der Zeit aber eben noch nicht so wirklich hatte....
Außerdem stammt deine Rechtschreibung wohl offensichtlich aus dem Kindergarten.
vel predator vel praedam
drool
Porsche fans :)