I'd love to see a lightning sign and shadow sin pvp tips and tricks videos similar to this just pvp oriented, especially because I see very little sin pvp help videos
I recommend that when you get ur aransu badge you hold rmb when the 5 second rmb buff is up since you would be doing 130k dmg at about3 time per second because of the badge so your roughly doing 300k dmg every second
do mind badge doesnt proc every hit as it has 0.5s cooldown, also you will do more hits of hs during those 5sec than hs+ds totall, (and i even said u want to get advantage of this buff only for shadow dragon as tiger gets most dps from tiger 05:50 ). But this buff will really shine when we get the new bracelet as it has 460%ap on hs and 120%ap on ds for 10sec after chokebomb. Also rly cool thing that I missed in video just bcz I didint know it, is you have same chi recovery from that 5sec speed buff on every hs as from dragon bracelet which means u will have even less focus problems if u dont have aransu badge.
yes, you will do more dmg with holding rmb on that buff even now as it deals more hits of hs than hs+ds instead in that time. Ofc its viable only for shadow dragon as shadow tiger gets more dps from darkstrike. And this buff will be even better when we get the new bracelet.
with the tiger shadow build, does anyone run into issues with RMB (heart stab) just not coming out some times? I constantly find myself needing to hit RMB sometimes up to 4 times before it comes out, but it's not consistent
I havent managed to find my shadow earring yet after like 10 weeks now, only the ring. Is the dps boost noticeable with earring stage 6 if I wait til I get the earring or should I just upgrade the ring to stage 6 instead, while having chi problem myself (no hongmoon soul yet, still using zakhan soul) Thanks a lot Rai
up to preference which build you want to play. Tiger glory has better solo dps but doesnt have Bluebuff every 1minute, holy fire / alluvion dragon has higher burst but a bit less sustained dps but has bluebuff every 1minute, its totally up to you which build you want to play
hi i just wanna know that when u have dragon with ancestral and aransu, what is the buff you are looking for when holding rmb, the bracelet buff you mean?
Extremely helpful video that made me choose shadow tiger,but I'm having problems acquiring the Glory Soul Badge. I have raven 1,tiger 10,Skyrift Mystic Badge and 1,2,3 VT+4,5,6,7,8 BT ss. Unfortunately I haven't gotten the shadow accs from BT yet. Any tip/help would be appreciated as it feels like I'm doing nothing right now without the glory soul badge,while if I get it my char will start dealing some damage.
What do you think about Simple Mode ? Does the rotation for Dragon same as your ? Or it messed up. I'm new to assasin and getting used to the animation cancel. So atm I'm relying on the Simple Mode
Does it hold for 10s with badges and BT gear or just the usual Rmb F and hold rmb when F buff is up? Causr turning on and off simple mode is clunky. Ty vm
hi there, i've watched some of your videos and they are really helpful, many thanks for that. Im pretty new to the game and assassin is the first and only class i have been playing so far. I am a little bit confused choosing between lightning and shadow sin. I have been playing lightning sin since I started and i've found it very convenient and fast to go into stealth (1 click or hit only). however, in order to stack 5 potions on the target, most of the time we have to press 3 or 4 buttons (the version im playing just has eon and eternity sould badge). I can see a lot of people playing shadow sin end game and their dps is awesome. so my question is if shadow is really better and can have higher dps than lightning end game and that's why many people sacrify their convenience for? thanx a lot.
as i said in my guide, shadow is easier to play since lighting needs to have VT gear to really shine but still requires to maintain your anicancel perfectly, in most scenarios shadow is just better since its out of stealth dps and u dont have to bother timing your skills to deal more dps.
I'm new with sin. I have trouble with chi every time the bb runs out. I cant do rmb f like you did here in the video. I have all the badges for dragon shadow and those bt gears already. Do you have any idea what should i do to maintain the chi recovery? Oh btw since sin is my alt, i dont have hm rmb for him. Is it necessary to have that ? I heard it could help me with the chi recovery but im not sure.
Yes, having HM rmb is a huge difference. Also having good amount of crit rate is helping aswell (around 55% ish or more) As i said in video, you can use LMB whenever u feel like running out of chi, this shouldnt occur in the 5 sec after using shadow drain / lighting rod at all but for another 5 sec you might be forced to use LMB You can also change your mystic badge to Skyrift to help you with chi problems as it recovers 2 chi on dark strike hit.
returning after almost 2 years doesn't feel like to much has change a few minor changes here or there, but i feel that cheesing bosses with the perma stealth combo got harder (or my muscle memory isnt fully back yet)
GigglesTheCat everything changed when trove nation attacked. its all about trove now, u either spend 1 year farming of ssp to have gear like me or u spent money on trove and gear up in 1 day just to do raid once a week and sit in mushin rest of the week. 1v1 / 3v3 is dead, F8 is even more braindead, its not the same game it used to be.
I'm thinking on rolling an assassin. With the new glory badge, what do you think about the DPS of the two elements (shadow vs lightning)? Is the lightning still the superior in terms of DPS? IMO the shadow should be better according to the badge + mystic badge + bracelet combination. Choke bomb in every 10 seconds for 10 seconds of 5 poison stacks with 10 seconds of bracelet buff with 10 or 15 seconds of mystic badge proc. It seems OP for me. :) And the raw damage: the RMB deals the same dmg (5.0x AP), the Dark strike deals the same dmg as the Lightning Rod with 5 stacks of poison (8.0x AP). So, what do you think? You've mentioned in your video that the "Tiger shadow" deals less DPS than lightning. Do you have any explanation why?
csisyadam First of all bracelet buff has lower ap scalling, and even the badge difference doesnt negate it in any way, 2nd thing is a bit higher crit dmg that stealth gives, but most important is amount of lightin rods per second you can do compared to dark strikes. Lightin rods can be canceled by hs in middle of their animation allowing you to hit 1.7 lighting rods per second, meanwhile you can barely do 1.3dark strike /sec and that is the biggest difference in terms of dps. As for the reality shadow seems just way better spec in kr since you most of the times have SB in party and your dps is basicly the same as lighting with the exception that you dont have to bother about sitting in stealth.
Great video , im new comer help me to choose my badges for shadow dragon Aransu + ascenstral or with undying Thanks :) I feel like aransu ascentral is better than aransu + undying , but ur advice will highly be appreciate it .
aransu ancestral is way better since u arent getting punished if u fail to hs during holyfire buff on undying, you also wont need to use normal poisonstacking as your chokebomb will always be up due to venom slash reset u get from ancestral, dps wise its also better, 100% uptime on aransu badge and crit dmg from ancestral is enough to make dps same or even a bit higher than with undying
xXxTheMrCarlosxXx you can just lock it and not use it at all, you can also use rmb lmb f to not have chi problems, getting hm heartstab and having decent crit rate will also help u with chi management
Aren't people going to complain that I'm not using party protection? Is it possible to hold chi (focus) without having HM at the beginning and without using smoke screen? They need to make an option to reduce smoke effects or particles. :(
xXxTheMrCarlosxXx smoke screen is not that big of a deal in terms of party protection, ad for fps issues u can try playing on low pc graphical settings and as for chi management with low gear (without vt badge) u need to add some lmbs anyway even without hm hs, it just helps to recover a bit more chi when u crit with hs if u have hm skill on it
There are some things/mods,etc and BNS buddy addons and options- that can help optimize these issues. Try shutting off all other class animations- even if you play with CTRL F on you should have less issues with ur PC thinking about less- See Licod's new optimization guide maybe also.
one more question , i saw that you are doing combo so fluently and almost no delays are happening . When i am doing it it feels so slow , is there a item to make it fast , or i have to train myself?
Slae most likely i have better connection and muscle memory, check how much ms do u have in game, atm u can also use shift+f3 to toggle on simpliefied mode which makes rmb f for u while holding rmb
no, its actually made for ppl that are lazy and have worse connection. For shadow sin its decent but for lighting its garbage as well as most of the other classes too. Its gonna simply do the rmb f for you and whenever u will have rmb atk speed buff its gonna skip F and just hold rmb - for shadow dragon / new bracelet its exacly what u want but for shadow tiger its bad as your dps comes from dark strikes
I just wanted to know if you have some parse of 2 shadow builds, actually i have undying fused badge but after see this i dont know what is better anymore lol
Kei- undying has same dps as ancestral, also both builds seem to have same solo dps with short and long soul, but I belive that with sb long soul is better, on my discord channel there are pinned parses from other sins aswell so feel free to check it out
Rai Ohh yeah i saw them just now it was really helpfull ty! now i want to ask if u think for high ms is better to stay with my actual build or change to ancestral + tiger
you end up going for ancestral anyway when new bracelets come, also rotation with ancestral dragon will be the same as with ancestral haven, as for high ms i feel like ancestral might be a bit better too.
celestial casim if u are looking for stuff like build, if u are lookin for a girl well there i cannot help u much cuz im lookin myself in to that case and cannot find any normal ones ;s
i personaly have a big trouble whit CHI ...i just have bale +9 and the oath neck ...as a shadow build .. its 0 .cuz you lose constant CHI if you dont criticaly hit . so this guide its usefull only whit good items not solak items .
Great Video! Great person! Thank you very much.
Thanks man this was very helpful!!! Just what I needed :D
I'd love to see a lightning sign and shadow sin pvp tips and tricks videos similar to this just pvp oriented, especially because I see very little sin pvp help videos
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Finally its out sensei :D
nice video sir :)
I recommend that when you get ur aransu badge you hold rmb when the 5 second rmb buff is up since you would be doing 130k dmg at about3 time per second because of the badge so your roughly doing 300k dmg every second
do mind badge doesnt proc every hit as it has 0.5s cooldown, also you will do more hits of hs during those 5sec than hs+ds totall, (and i even said u want to get advantage of this buff only for shadow dragon as tiger gets most dps from tiger 05:50 ).
But this buff will really shine when we get the new bracelet as it has 460%ap on hs and 120%ap on ds for 10sec after chokebomb.
Also rly cool thing that I missed in video just bcz I didint know it, is you have same chi recovery from that 5sec speed buff on every hs as from dragon bracelet which means u will have even less focus problems if u dont have aransu badge.
So would u say hold the rmb for the 5 seconds if u have aransu badge now or wait till we get the new braclet to do that
yes, you will do more dmg with holding rmb on that buff even now as it deals more hits of hs than hs+ds instead in that time.
Ofc its viable only for shadow dragon as shadow tiger gets more dps from darkstrike.
And this buff will be even better when we get the new bracelet.
Hello, what is the name of the costume that your character is wearing?
Nice
with the tiger shadow build, does anyone run into issues with RMB (heart stab) just not coming out some times? I constantly find myself needing to hit RMB sometimes up to 4 times before it comes out, but it's not consistent
use simplified mode or just make a simple rmb + f macro
I havent managed to find my shadow earring yet after like 10 weeks now, only the ring. Is the dps boost noticeable with earring stage 6 if I wait til I get the earring or should I just upgrade the ring to stage 6 instead, while having chi problem myself (no hongmoon soul yet, still using zakhan soul) Thanks a lot Rai
hey, so what do you recomend for a bt geared not fused badge shadow sin, holy fire + dragon or tiger + glory ?
up to preference which build you want to play. Tiger glory has better solo dps but doesnt have Bluebuff every 1minute, holy fire / alluvion dragon has higher burst but a bit less sustained dps but has bluebuff every 1minute, its totally up to you which build you want to play
hey im new to the game tell me where i can get the soul shield u're using ?
hi i just wanna know that when u have dragon with ancestral and aransu, what is the buff you are looking for when holding rmb, the bracelet buff you mean?
your burst with dragon bracelet is always the same, the buff mentioned is at 5:32
Extremely helpful video that made me choose shadow tiger,but I'm having problems acquiring the Glory Soul Badge. I have raven 1,tiger 10,Skyrift Mystic Badge and 1,2,3 VT+4,5,6,7,8 BT ss. Unfortunately I haven't gotten the shadow accs from BT yet. Any tip/help would be appreciated as it feels like I'm doing nothing right now without the glory soul badge,while if I get it my char will start dealing some damage.
glory is a must, as well as the bt earring in that scenario u just gotta wait and gather money meanwhile, do ssp or daily dungs or farm f20 ;3
What do you think about Simple Mode ? Does the rotation for Dragon same as your ? Or it messed up. I'm new to assasin and getting used to the animation cancel. So atm I'm relying on the Simple Mode
yea Simplified mode is good for Shadow Dragon
so the Simple Mode does the same rotation as you with badge and everything ?
Does it hold for 10s with badges and BT gear or just the usual Rmb F and hold rmb when F buff is up? Causr turning on and off simple mode is clunky. Ty vm
it does rmb hold if u have any speed buff (bb with dragon bracelet / killing intent / soulburn) and uses darkstrike if u dont
hi there, i've watched some of your videos and they are really helpful, many thanks for that. Im pretty new to the game and assassin is the first and only class i have been playing so far.
I am a little bit confused choosing between lightning and shadow sin. I have been playing lightning sin since I started and i've found it very convenient and fast to go into stealth (1 click or hit only). however, in order to stack 5 potions on the target, most of the time we have to press 3 or 4 buttons (the version im playing just has eon and eternity sould badge). I can see a lot of people playing shadow sin end game and their dps is awesome. so my question is if shadow is really better and can have higher dps than lightning end game and that's why many people sacrify their convenience for? thanx a lot.
as i said in my guide, shadow is easier to play since lighting needs to have VT gear to really shine but still requires to maintain your anicancel perfectly, in most scenarios shadow is just better since its out of stealth dps and u dont have to bother timing your skills to deal more dps.
many thanks for your reply. btw, what exactly VT gear you mean?
I'm new with sin. I have trouble with chi every time the bb runs out. I cant do rmb f like you did here in the video. I have all the badges for dragon shadow and those bt gears already. Do you have any idea what should i do to maintain the chi recovery? Oh btw since sin is my alt, i dont have hm rmb for him. Is it necessary to have that ? I heard it could help me with the chi recovery but im not sure.
Yes, having HM rmb is a huge difference.
Also having good amount of crit rate is helping aswell (around 55% ish or more)
As i said in video, you can use LMB whenever u feel like running out of chi, this shouldnt occur in the 5 sec after using shadow drain / lighting rod at all but for another 5 sec you might be forced to use LMB
You can also change your mystic badge to Skyrift to help you with chi problems as it recovers 2 chi on dark strike hit.
Very very helpful. Thanks bud
Always happy to help ^^
returning after almost 2 years doesn't feel like to much has change a few minor changes here or there, but i feel that cheesing bosses with the perma stealth combo got harder (or my muscle memory isnt fully back yet)
GigglesTheCat everything changed when trove nation attacked. its all about trove now, u either spend 1 year farming of ssp to have gear like me or u spent money on trove and gear up in 1 day just to do raid once a week and sit in mushin rest of the week. 1v1 / 3v3 is dead, F8 is even more braindead, its not the same game it used to be.
I'm thinking on rolling an assassin. With the new glory badge, what do you think about the DPS of the two elements (shadow vs lightning)? Is the lightning still the superior in terms of DPS? IMO the shadow should be better according to the badge + mystic badge + bracelet combination. Choke bomb in every 10 seconds for 10 seconds of 5 poison stacks with 10 seconds of bracelet buff with 10 or 15 seconds of mystic badge proc. It seems OP for me. :) And the raw damage: the RMB deals the same dmg (5.0x AP), the Dark strike deals the same dmg as the Lightning Rod with 5 stacks of poison (8.0x AP). So, what do you think? You've mentioned in your video that the "Tiger shadow" deals less DPS than lightning. Do you have any explanation why?
csisyadam First of all bracelet buff has lower ap scalling, and even the badge difference doesnt negate it in any way, 2nd thing is a bit higher crit dmg that stealth gives, but most important is amount of lightin rods per second you can do compared to dark strikes. Lightin rods can be canceled by hs in middle of their animation allowing you to hit 1.7 lighting rods per second, meanwhile you can barely do 1.3dark strike /sec and that is the biggest difference in terms of dps. As for the reality shadow seems just way better spec in kr since you most of the times have SB in party and your dps is basicly the same as lighting with the exception that you dont have to bother about sitting in stealth.
Thanks for the quick reply, that makes sense.
Great video , im new comer help me to choose my badges for shadow dragon Aransu + ascenstral or with undying Thanks :) I feel like aransu ascentral is better than aransu + undying , but ur advice will highly be appreciate it .
aransu ancestral is way better since u arent getting punished if u fail to hs during holyfire buff on undying, you also wont need to use normal poisonstacking as your chokebomb will always be up due to venom slash reset u get from ancestral, dps wise its also better, 100% uptime on aransu badge and crit dmg from ancestral is enough to make dps same or even a bit higher than with undying
Do a video with the new bracelets now. Dps comparison lighting vs shadow
pretty much 540k to 520k
Is there any way not to use the smoke screen? Because it makes my FPS drop badly.
xXxTheMrCarlosxXx you can just lock it and not use it at all, you can also use rmb lmb f to not have chi problems, getting hm heartstab and having decent crit rate will also help u with chi management
Aren't people going to complain that I'm not using party protection? Is it possible to hold chi (focus) without having HM at the beginning and without using smoke screen?
They need to make an option to reduce smoke effects or particles. :(
xXxTheMrCarlosxXx smoke screen is not that big of a deal in terms of party protection, ad for fps issues u can try playing on low pc graphical settings and as for chi management with low gear (without vt badge) u need to add some lmbs anyway even without hm hs, it just helps to recover a bit more chi when u crit with hs if u have hm skill on it
There are some things/mods,etc and BNS buddy addons and options- that can help optimize these issues.
Try shutting off all other class animations- even if you play with CTRL F on you should have less issues with ur PC thinking about less-
See Licod's new optimization guide maybe also.
What about the rings or the earrings? İs there a specific item? Thanks for the guide btw , it helped me so much!
bt ones are most important for early build so focus on that
one more question , i saw that you are doing combo so fluently and almost no delays are happening . When i am doing it it feels so slow , is there a item to make it fast , or i have to train myself?
Slae most likely i have better connection and muscle memory, check how much ms do u have in game, atm u can also use shift+f3 to toggle on simpliefied mode which makes rmb f for u while holding rmb
Thanks for advice ! But what is the bad part about the shift + f3 mode tho?Will it be more slower then the other one?
no, its actually made for ppl that are lazy and have worse connection.
For shadow sin its decent but for lighting its garbage as well as most of the other classes too.
Its gonna simply do the rmb f for you and whenever u will have rmb atk speed buff its gonna skip F and just hold rmb - for shadow dragon / new bracelet its exacly what u want but for shadow tiger its bad as your dps comes from dark strikes
I just wanted to know if you have some parse of 2 shadow builds, actually i have undying fused badge but after see this i dont know what is better anymore lol
Kei- undying has same dps as ancestral, also both builds seem to have same solo dps with short and long soul, but I belive that with sb long soul is better, on my discord channel there are pinned parses from other sins aswell so feel free to check it out
Rai Ohh yeah i saw them just now it was really helpfull ty! now i want to ask if u think for high ms is better to stay with my actual build or change to ancestral + tiger
you end up going for ancestral anyway when new bracelets come, also rotation with ancestral dragon will be the same as with ancestral haven, as for high ms i feel like ancestral might be a bit better too.
Rai. Ohhh well have to change badges then! Ty for answer me
Happy to help ^^
Where can i get/find these stuff lmao
celestial casim if u are looking for stuff like build, if u are lookin for a girl well there i cannot help u much cuz im lookin myself in to that case and cannot find any normal ones ;s
GoldHunter neitheer sneleatial basin as ii said in guide or toi / market for soul badges
Rai 😂😂😂
Rai sry but i m not english so i dont understand everything
Rai also i dont know the exact names can u tell me exact stats? For the tiger build
Awesome vid, but is it worth playing shadow tiger/dragon with 180ms?
it is definitly better than playing lightin with that ms
Rai ok will upgrade my sin a bit then to test around see if it’s fun.
just get glory soul badge, skyrift mystic badge and you can alrdy see the shadow tiger potential, if u get tiger bracelet it becomes OpieOP
Rai hehehe ok ok, just gonna leave at bt gear since it’s an alt, but must finish act 8 first 😭
Lvlving up from lvl 1 to lvl 55 with gunner took me around 20h straight so it cant be that long if u alrdy have lvl 50 or smthin x)
do you send me your Preset please~
i personaly have a big trouble whit CHI ...i just have bale +9 and the oath neck ...as a shadow build .. its 0 .cuz you lose constant CHI if you dont criticaly hit . so this guide its usefull only whit good items not solak items .
i did talk about rotation on low gear, and u shouldnt have any chi problems with those rotations.
can you share your macros
mouse + keyboard Kappa
Why is the Lighting build the stealth building and why not the Shadow build!? Makes zero sense.
shadow is actualy harder than light ! but ok
Shaolan what makes you think like that :D
First!
you dont need a guide for the easy way to play sin lel
well i can still see some ppl that cant play sins at all so maybe they need one :D
Nice