The ULTIMATE Helicopter Control Set Up in DCS!
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
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0:00 - Intro
2:29 - Channel Intro
2:57 - Takeoff
4:01 - Landing onto a truck-mounted helipad
6:09 - Landing in confined landing zone
9:23 - Final landing
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In this video I discuss the flight control set up I now have in DCS for flying helicopters which allows for very smooth control inputs and much more precision for hovering, landing in confined landing zones etc.
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Real former Huey Pilot from the German Air Force here: this is exactly what u need. The neutral position of the cyclick is changing continously depending on several factors e.g. flight speed, wind direction and speed, power setting and so on... you can even say that from hover to 120 KIAS you go through a car's stick shift literally from 1st to 5th gear with the neutral position. 1st gear: accelerate from hover to a few knots, 2nd gear: pulling cyclic back after accelerating to a few knots and waiting for translational lift, 3rd gear: pushing the cyclic hard forward if u wont gain altitude while proceeding through translational lift phase and just accelerating, 4th gear: after passing this phase pulling back the stick to maintain attitude and altitude, 5th gear: again pushing forward until reaching 120 KIAS and setting the new neutral with force trim release push button.
If you need the correct procedure for standard, low-level and maximum endurance autorotation, let me know. i will tell u. keep up the nice content and inform us about the force feed back stick. cheers
Hey! Thanks for writing this! Yes, please! If you describe the nuances of the auto rotations that would be epic - I'll make a video with those!
I also have a question for you - with Force Trim switch ON, how much tendency does the stick have to "bounce" back to the middle position? Does it bounce/ move back all the way back to center or just partially? I understand there's still a bit of a light spring effect with Force Trim ON?
DCS does model the Force Trim ON/OFF really well, so when you position the switch to OFF it takes away all tension and the stick moves about freely, so that's the way I have it tuned now. So with Force Trim ON, the stick does want to move back to center when you don't hold it, but not bang on center like a spring, maybe most of the way. Would that be correct? If you have any input that would be great! :)
hey i appreciate the quick response... so in reality the spring package of the force trim is quite strong. it will pull the cyclic to its defined neutral pretty seriously depending how far away you moved the cyclick away from its neutral. for example if you just move 1-2 inches away from center the resistance for you is relatively low and if you take your hands off it will move smoothly to its neutral. but if you move lets say 6 inches away the resistance you have to overcome is progressively higher and also the return to its neutral after taking your hands off is no joke and could also bounce a little around the center. the high force of the spring package is the reason that we switched force trim off (in that case the cyclic has close to no resistance in all directions due to the powerful hydraulic support) while doing difficult maneuvers e.g. hoist operations, landing with one skid on the edge of a roof top or doing vertical landings partially HOGE in confined areas etc. cause your forearm muscles are exhausted very soon, you get stiff and tensed in your whole body and in consequence you lose your fine motor skills which can get all people involved in serious trouble if that makes sense for you. if you give me your ig i can contact you for more content. stay safe@@CommandT
@@moloh2529 Ah thanks for the response. I shall try to fine-tune the stick with this in mind :)
And here's my ig @command_tango: instagram.com/command_tango/
Cheers!
I've only flown R44 but if the cyclic is not in the centre the rotor will shake, which is felt in the stick as well.
This would make more sense if we could see the control your're using.
I will will do that in a future video for sure
@CommandT how long until you can say the controls your using? I'm getting dcs soon and want a force feedback stick but don't want to wait 3 years for it to be made and then spend $1000 on it. I'm really looking forward to this flight stick.
Helicopter being mostly flown with constant micro inputs, you don’t get much from seeing them…
I currently use a WinWing stick with the springs removed and dampers installed that allow me to let go of the stick anywhere and it stays there.
But a good and reasonably priced force feedback stick would be an absolute game changer. I can't wait to hear more about this mystery product!
Neat, can't wait to see what the stick is when its released. I have taken the springs out of my VKB stick and tightened down the dampers, and that gave me the best feel for helicopter flight. But It's a huge pain to disassemble the base to swap between planes and helos. A good force feedback stick seems like the holy grail for flight sims.
Yeah. Absolute game changer!! I’ll reveal more details in the coming months I hope.
Good results makes load cell controls also.
Can't wait to see the product!
FYI, helicopters with a force trim system such as UH-1, AH-64D, Mi-8, ka-32, or Mi-24 behave differently. Moving the hand off the cyclic will cause the cyclic to bounce back to its center position, just like other normal aircraft would do, the further you move the cyclic away from the center, the more force and tension will be required, the cyclic is tensioned by spring that connected with magnetic. However, the difference is: the center position can be changed by pressing and releasing the force trim release button.
If you are using the joystick without a spring and will not re-center on its own, what you are trying to do is basically mimic the behavior by pressing down the force trim release button continuously.
Hence a force feedback joystick might solve this issue, you can move the cyclic freely without much effort by holding the force trim release button, once the desired flight state is achieved, releasing the force trim release button will make the cyclic to stay at the current position, if you trying to move the cyclic again without pressing the force trim release button, some force will be needed.
A very good video should explain this: ua-cam.com/video/gKBLKjo2E7Y/v-deo.html
FFBeast controls - the most suitable devices for flying helicopters in simulators
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Hey, I’m well aware of this. I have this set up correctly now. I will demonstrate in my new video soon 👍 I have initially set the stick up as if Force Trim was off but now I realise that this is modelled well in DCS so I have it set up where the stick has a slight spring effect switch force trim ON, and loosens up like it should with Force Trim OFF. I’ll demonstrate on a new video soon 👍
@@CommandT Amazing, can't wait to see!
Glad you found something better than an overpriced TM. Can’t wait to see your review!
Hi Command T,
Can you please provide the DCS curve settings for the cyclic steering lever and foot pedals, thank you. Pet
Oh God I can't wait to purchase a gaming laptop and download this game
What ground object is that truck helipad in the mission editor
I kinda want a stick like that but im afraid of crashing/getting shot down and getting hit in the balls from FFB 🤣
Haha! When you crash or die all signals are lost so your balls will likely be ok.
man you have that shit dialed in. nice
i have been looking for a force feedback base for a long long time. I will buy one as soon as it gets out. No matter the price
Yeah there’s not much to choose from. This one I have now is just stupidly awesome! I’ll share more when I can.
So adding more negative curves may also help with spring loaded sticks?
I’m not sure how that would work??
No spring forces are linear
This is gonna be wild for simmers who have never felt control pressures or understood what trim really does irl. Something the the fs community has really but hurting for!
Indeed!!
How does this stick compare to the Microsoft Sidewinder FFB2?
I have no idea as I never used the sidewinder
Hey! Awesome vid!
Where in the editor do you find that truck with the helipad?
It’s not in the mission editor. It’s a mod you have to download. I’ll find and attach a link here for you when I can 👍
Tnx really apreciate it! @@CommandT
@@CommandT link?
Found it eventually. Part of an old Upuaut mod pack on the forums
I love the challenge of landing on that truck. What is it called? I would like to add it to my mission
Found it eventually. Part of an old Upuaut mod pack on the forums
HI, nice demonstration, looks pretty good! Is this stick made by an american company? I was trying to find this truck with the helipad? I did not find it in the static objects...Thanks!
It’s a mod. Unfortuntaly I don’t remember the name of the mod off the top of my head. It might be here: forum.dcs.world/topic/103564-addon-tents-watchtower-uh-1-cargo/
The stick is made in Europe/ Poland
Thanks for your effort! So it a static objects folder- do you rember where you have to place in which folder- I can not check it right now. Thanks!
My first thought, based on the £800-odd estimates mentioned in other comments, was this is a VPForce Rhino, but I believe they are already purchasable?
But I also believe Brunner are due to come out with a MkII version of their CLS-E this month.....
Either way, this looks fabulous!
It’s none of those. New player in the field 👍
@@CommandTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH!!!
So long as it's not Turtle Beach, I'm certainly interested in hearing more.... I'm guessing you're under NDA, then?
@@Sarrienne It's not so much an NDA, it's just that it's not finalised yet so I don't want to make anything up. I will share details when they come and once people can actually order it.
I am excited to hear more about the FFB-stick, but afraid it is yet another "one-man-garage build", for an outrageous price. Hope I am wrong...
How is your engine exhaust different sir?😅.
In ME remove the exhaust cover
@@benwils0n Thank you will try it out.
and what about the warbirds?
So that’s where it really really shines!! No more of this “accelerated stalling by accident” nonsense. You feel a) the vibration through the stick as the airflow starts to break up over the wing and buffet, and b) the awesome natural airflow spring effects that make the stick very tight off centre at speed and it requires a lot of force to manipulate the flight controls with high deflects at high speeds… and on the ground the stick moves freely. It’s awesome. Really awesome
@@CommandT look like it make the fly real, with sense. You are annoying, becoz of yu i will have to buy it !! 😂🙏🙏👍 And by the way, thx for your great work🙏
will it cost 2 grand?
No. My guess is maybe half that but I’m not sure atm.
Most of the problems you use to have weren't fixed by getting a force feed back stick, they were fix by getting rid of that warthog rubbish literally the worst possible stick for helicopters
Totally agree!
agree
100% full disagree with you on a molecular level. Any spring-loaded stick, not just the WH.
No the warthog has a very bad design its centered by pushing down on the whole gimbal witch makes for a very large transfer area of dead zone or zero tension so you get a large center bump, i flew with a 3d pro for years then a warthog with 50mm extension an f 18 grip an yes the warthog looked cool an felt good but it was by far worse to fly with an tried all the mods no spring upsidedown small spring white grease you name it. now i use a virpil warbird base 120mm extension an that same f 18 grip the biggest improvement to my flying came from decent pedals vkb m5 now im flying it, not reacting to it @@CommandT
@@LEAD-DISPENSER That's fair enough, you've obviously got your own experience, but even with all that you've said I still think the stick I am now using ups the realism times 10 on any non force feedback stick, not just my old Warthog.
Price?
I was told 800-900 euro. That’s subject to change once the final product is ready. I can’t say more than that at this point.
@@CommandT THX
the fact that you dont say anything about 'the thing' is just a tease.... frustrating
Yeah, sorry. I can’t. Not yet. But I am very very excited to share more when I can.
Yeah I second that. Really curious about this.
Bro makes the most annoying, unsatisfying, hyperbolic, click bait title videos every time.
If you say so 😅