That's odd, I usually don't see that plane's wings flex like that. I have to wonder if it was just practically empty with next to no fuel, flying one of those Sydney to Melbourne runs people complain about. That would explain the wing flex.
For all those commenting about the late gear extension of the Atlas B744: this obviously was a post-maintenance acceptance flight, where in some cases, the GPWS must be checked by getting the “too low gear” auto callout. This is briefed and part of the programme. End of story. Best regards from an ACTUAL B744 Captain and Instructor
You can't prove that though, can you, so the other comments are just as valid as yours - as for your profession, of course you are, on your PC with MS flight simulator
Thanks for the clarification....to be honest I couldn't quite believe it either. Isn't normal procedure on an ILS approach to select gear down at the outer marker? Well, it was in my day but then I was flying when Pontius was a pilot. I quite agree that when under testing conditions normal procedures are not followed. Plus even at 500 feet, at normal rate of descent, even though it looks a bit hairy, still enough time to extend the gear- but not to make a habit of it!
Atlas usually land in Ezeiza, Argentina, and I happened to be next to the airport a few months ago...I finally managed to see a 747 in real life! Everyone knows it's a huge plane, but seeing it in real life is madness! 😍
You'll see lots of 747-400Fs in major cargo hubs! Checkout kalitta K4, Suparna Y8, Atlas 5Y, Hong Kong Air Cargo HKAC, Singapore SQ, all ex-LAX/JFK/ORD for regular freighter flights!
And amazingly, ordinary people go anywhere in the world in comfort for what amounts to a few days' pay ... not so long ago an Atlantic crossing was a risky 2-3-week journey you only did once in a lifetime, with your life savings.
To this day I'm still in childlike awe of wide body/jumbo aircraft... The C5 Galaxy, the 747 series, A380s, Super Guppies... all incredible feats of engineering.
Obviously no problem with late landing gear, clean approach and land.
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The pilot most likely was a bit short on landing speed and decided to hold off on the drag from the gear instead of bumping up the throttles.. FAA frowns because if there is a gear malfunction you have less time to abort then you would over 1 angle..
It wasn't a clean approach, because the aircraft was mot ready to land when it should have been. That was not a by-the-book landing, and there's a good reason why pilots are supposed to go around if the aircraft is not ready to land below its minimum height above the ground.
@@nigeldepledge3790 Not doubting that, what I said was, to the uninformed ie, me, it looked ok. Just by chance passing BHX this afternoon I saw a plane dip out of the sky with landing lights on, some way off. Pilot obviously wasn't happy as lights went out and he climbed back into the cloud, presumably for a go around.
Agreed. Throttled way back, they got the runway made, no reason to create a bunch of drag and need to throttle up all over again. Just float that sucker in.
That A380 was on the east west runway in Sydney, taking off into our winter strong westerly winds. I've seen 737's do almost 30 degrees striaght up there.
At the begin of the takeoff run you can see a windsock in the background. One red or white ring indicates 3 knots. Fully extended 15 knots. In this case I would guess the wind was gusting between 3 and 15 knots.
@@tonytheflyerIt is not about that a certain aircraft type is operating out of a certain Aerodrome, it is about where they are effing going! If it is a short hop of 20 minutes or a holiday flight to Hurghada in Egypt or the Canary Islands. And those flights are ALWAYS fully booked! And then there is the weather, wind, wind direction. load, time of day aso For crying out loud, read up on the Air France incident with their 340-300 out of Bogotá, or back in the day, German airline LTU with their MD11doing DUS-LAX - departure time was scheduled before 10am, as otherwise during the hot summer months June, July and August it was just to warm to Sontheim flight nonstop, so often Winnipeg was chosen for a re-fuelling stop over.
@@wakeupcall2665 It wasn't my intention to write a whole text book on the affects of density altitude and weight on takeoff and landing performance and operating procedures from smaller airports, I was only pointing out the fact that the B738 is capable of operating out of runways shorter than 6,000 feet.
If Knight Industries made the 747 the cockpit alarm be like: "erm Michael, aren't we forgetting something?" Michael is busy combing his hair in the rear-view mirror. "Whatssup Kit?" "We're only a few hundred feet above the runway Michael. Is there anything you'd like me to do? Anything you think I should *lower*?"
@fluchterschoen Mr T was afraid of flying too! But if you look up "KITT hates flying" on UA-cam a video titled "KITT goes flying: should pop up. Watch it! He tells Michael he's afraid of flying! 😂
If they're empty and on training mission, yes. But if they're loaded, they'll take a huge length of runway to get going, same with a C17 or loaded A380
eurowings " dear passengers we know you will have some dislocated disks on your back but we are in this together, keep flying with us i promise this next attempt will be butter smooth- by the way wasnt me but the co-pilot he is just a young man and he´s still learning how to land"
Oh yes, it seems the Eurowings employed like "late flare/no flare" technique here in this little mishap, but there may be more to it (downdraft perhaps), than poor / wrong pilot's technique.
Thanks for the great footage. Always enjoy your uploads. From a non-pilot, non-copilot, non-flight engineer or navigator or any other titles involved with flying a plane.
Ryanair 737 was loaded heavy with passengers and fuel that's why whole runway needed. I experienced that before on an Eastern Airlines flight. I heard the ground crew say give this flight extra fuel it's loaded heavy. From my window I could determine the end of the runway and it was close.
I remember one of the space shuttle landings where the gear came down about what seemed like five seconds before the wheels touched the runway. It was controlled by the onboard computer system and it drew a lot of attention.
@@SDRob01 … Yeah! It sure is cool looking, though I’ve never seen one in person. All I’ve seen in person were UH-1H (Huey) helicopters and OH-58 helicopters, when I was in the U.S. Army in the 1980s. And I road in a DC-10 a few times while going to Germany and back, etc., while in the Army in the late 1970s. That was fun!!! One DC-10 wouldn’t lift up, so we had to do an emergency landing on an island off of Bangor, Maine. They fixed it and we were off again.
A friend of mine was on American Eagle flight 4539 from Toronto to Boston in June 2007. Apparently the pilots got three greens in the regional jet while preparing to land but they were inaccurate. The plane touched the runway at Logan and sparks flew - but the pilots were able to go to full power and get it back in the air. After using an emergency method for lowering the gears, the plane made a safe landing.
The alert should be just "Landing gear, landing gear." Given the circumstances, it would be clear to the aircrew why they were receiving that particular alert.
They would not receive an excessive descent rate or terrain closure rate warning in that situation. Their rates were not excessive. They would receive a TOO LOW - GEAR clearance notification and think “rats, we will need to explain this”
based on a ~50sec clip to the point of touchdown, they could have gone 160KTS / 3600sec * ~50sec / 3 * 1000 = ~740ft altitude, or 140KTS / 3600sec * ~50sec / 3 * 1000 = 648ft, alternatively, if you do it from the moment the gear was down to the moment of touchdown, and if we use 150kts being the average of 160kts and 140kts, then ~150KTS / 3600 * ~36sec / 3 * 1000 = ~500ft, in other words in all likelihood the aircraft was above 500ft even if you waited in the clip until the gear was extended, given the ~36sec between then and touchdown and it was probably going >150kts, the rule of thumb used by pilots given the standard ~3deg glideslope is distance from the runway in NM divided by 3 multiplied by 1000 equals FT you should be at above airport elevation, e.g. 9NM out / 3 * 1000 = 3000ft, but you can use an aspect of that by guessing the aircraft speed and thus time to cover distance thus altitude at the start.
Actually I took that video, and with the reference to Terminal Chart and runway marking, it is estimated that only about 820 meters runway were used at the moment the main wheels off the ground.
AtlasAir... either ignored landing checklist.. or did the late gear down because of winds or something.. cargo jet so perhaps not the same procedures as commercial airliners.
We do exactly the same like any other Jetliner. There is no procedure to be not configured at 1000 FT latest. These guys most probably will have a cup of coffee with their boss.
@@stadt-mensch6302 Perhaps it was a check of the warning system following landing gear maintenance? Conditionally approved, but only if favorable landing conditions were present? Don't know -- just thinking out loud.
The first one when the ground proximity warning went off: Pilot 'I knew there was something else I had to do. Good job we have warning systems to remind us'.
The Aerosucre pilot trainer nods approvingly that the Atlas Air pilots ignore the stupid aircraft warnings. The 'too low gear' warning should only be used for when the crew is running low on drugs.
There was a pilot from a former swiss airline, with a long career, even flight instructor. Was asked by an unexperienced co-pilot if it's possible to retract the gear on the ground and the captain said no, it's not possible and levered the switch, the gear retracted and the airplane was a wreck. He had several more incidents and was every time allowed to keep his license and his position as flight instructor of the airline. Some years later he was responsible for a fatal crash were all died, Melanie Thornton was also on that plane.
"Landing gear too late" actually would be the description of a belly landing - but yeah, it always has to sound like catastrophic, so you need a "too". Its always "too late", "too high", "too low" or you have too ... few clicks.
It was fake- good eye. I am a little stunned at how many people think that was a real and come up with all sorts of plausibility theories to support their confirmation bias.
The only time when it's too late to extend the landing gear is AFTER they have landed. As long as they extend the gear any time BEFORE the landing it's not too late. The really important thing is as long as they get the gear down before they land - anything else is just gravy.
I bet that was a fun ride in that A380 taking off. Several years ago flying on a Delta 757 out of Atlanta to O'Hare they did a full power takeoff. Plane was half full, doubt it had a full load of fuel due to the short hop. That was freaking nuts, I swear we were flying up at a 45 degree angle trying to get above a line of thunderstorms.
Ryanair wasn‘t THAT late as you might think ! Norwichs runway 09/27 is about 6040ft long. The touchdown zone mark is about 1000 feet off the threshold mark. In the video, the main gear lifts just before the TD-zone mark, so there were enough space. It‘s just the „wavy“ area before the spot, were you guess, that there is no runway (but it is, look/focus the marks in the video)
A similar thing happened with a TUI 737 back in March. Serious software glitch caused a fault with the Auto Throttles. I'm definitely avoiding Boeing these days!!
Everything in these videos looked perfectly fine to me except the hard landing one. I hope you guys are not going to try jump on the click bait bandwagon.
The gear on Atlas Air was down when it was needed. ATC probably asked them to fly an approach speed above the max gear extension speed. Probably happens more often than you think.
@flyaviat-060 I most certainly do agree with u, but the american a/c shows that the u.s. is a very bad idea 👎 & that they do NOT belong on the r/ws of other nations 😢😢😢
The F-15 clip was not a compressor stall. It was an AB blowout(AfterBurner blowout). Somewhat common on the F-100 engines that the F-15 and some F-16 use.
The Ryanair took off amply within take off limits. The last part of the runway was invisible at the camera's position. The wing's shadow, which is ahead of the airplane, suddenly disappears. And at that specific moment the shadow is still on a section of the runway with the painted center line.
Ryanair co-pilot to the pilot: Hey pal, maybe it's time to take off ! Ryainair pilot : Yeah right, forgot I was on the plane, I felt I was still in my car.
That Ryanair takeoff makes me wonder: can you rotate when the runway is on a downslope? Looks to me like the pilot waited until the plane had crested the hill.
Non aviator here: In the first section with the late landing gear deployment, is this not a go around because the pilot had not satisfied all the conditions of a ‘stable approach’ for the landing?
Are the wings in the Emirates A380 mechanically articulated, or is that just the pressure of the air flexing them? I've never seen anything like that before.
Not perspective, but keep in mind that in calculating FAR field length requirements the aircraft is only required to be at 35 ft (IIRC) by the endo of the runway, which is roughly what this one was. OTOH, that's with an engine lost at V1, so it shouldn't have been this close. Maybe a headwind shifted to a tailwind.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Agree as to rotation distance. What I couldn't say, since it isn't clear where the threshold is crossed, was whether 35 feet would have been achieved with an engine out thousands of feet earlier. Based on my work involving airliner performance, my guess is "no" unless perhaps it was a derated-thrust takeoff. BTW, I'm realizing that my wind shift scenario above doesn't hold water. That would likely look like a rotation but no unstick for some period of time. Like the L-1011 I saw at Lambert which pitched up and then spent over a thousand feet waiting for something to happen.
The wing flex from the A380 as it picks up speed is so cool
Really an engineering marvel. Really just shows how strong those wings are!!
Thanks for pointing that out. I never noticed that before. 👍
In the words of jeremy... POWAAAAAAAH
That's odd, I usually don't see that plane's wings flex like that. I have to wonder if it was just practically empty with next to no fuel, flying one of those Sydney to Melbourne runs people complain about. That would explain the wing flex.
@@jhmcd2yeah, it looks like SYD
For all those commenting about the late gear extension of the Atlas B744: this obviously was a post-maintenance acceptance flight, where in some cases, the GPWS must be checked by getting the “too low gear” auto callout. This is briefed and part of the programme. End of story. Best regards from an ACTUAL B744 Captain and Instructor
You can't prove that though, can you, so the other comments are just as valid as yours - as for your profession, of course you are, on your PC with MS flight simulator
That makes sense! Thanks..........Best regards from a non-current PPL holder
Yeah what he said
I’m a commercial pilot and I approve this comment. It was a deliberate act to check the GPWS. Period.
Thanks for the clarification....to be honest I couldn't quite believe it either. Isn't normal procedure on an ILS approach to select gear down at the outer marker? Well, it was in my day but then I was flying when Pontius was a pilot. I quite agree that when under testing conditions normal procedures are not followed. Plus even at 500 feet, at normal rate of descent, even though it looks a bit hairy, still enough time to extend the gear- but not to make a habit of it!
Ryanair: " we pay for the whole runway, we use the whole runway"
lol
They didn't seem to have much flap.
Hey Mickey, did ya ever see such a short runway?
And so wide Patty.
One of my All Time Favorite Comments! 😂🎉
Now we know where the AwroSucre pilots ended up.
"Eurowings, why did you do a go-around?"
"We didn't want to, but the bounce made us." 😆
Ouch 😂
They were doomed starting at the bad approach, too high. You hear the pilot throttle down a lot to save it but he just didn't have the skills
Now that’s cute 😂…
Go around? Bolter!
You should have stopped immediately.
Those Emirates A380 pilots likely have been waiting for that opportunity their whole career. Empty aircraft. Little fuel. Full TOGA. Let's climb.
Takeoff roll was just under 14 times the length of the plane.
That was my first thought too - short haul, minimum fuel - let's go for it !
@@dougaltolan3017 which was way more than the 100 meters stated
@@Barry-r3oit was stated that it was 1000 meters. Which is about right.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Yeah, it said 1000 meters.
Happy that Atlas still flies the 747 so I can see them approach our local airport around 1800 feet above my house. It's a beautiful plane.
BWI?
Atlas usually land in Ezeiza, Argentina, and I happened to be next to the airport a few months ago...I finally managed to see a 747 in real life! Everyone knows it's a huge plane, but seeing it in real life is madness! 😍
You'll see lots of 747-400Fs in major cargo hubs! Checkout kalitta K4, Suparna Y8, Atlas 5Y, Hong Kong Air Cargo HKAC, Singapore SQ, all ex-LAX/JFK/ORD for regular freighter flights!
Also pro-tip, all the nonstop freighters EX-USA to Asia ALL make a tech stop in ANC
ATLAS is the largest operator of 74s in the world, if I’m not mistaken!!👍🏽🇺🇸
Ladies and gentlemen this is your Captain speaking. On behalf of Ryanair I'd like to thank you for driving most of the way with us.
lol
The pilot is also a motorcoach captain 😊
haha. it had to be ryannair.
That Ryanair late takeoff looks suspicious. Are you sure it wasn't an Aerosucre 737 painted in Ryanair livery?
"Former Aerosource pilot gets job flying for Ryanair."
Lol
@@blitz3653 Tansta "former Aerosucre pilot".
it was a Short Runway Take off, its normal
Gave it all the beans as well !
These massive aircraft lifting into the sky is a thing of beauty, one of man's greatest achievements; the impossible made possible.
Those four jet engines @ 60,000HP each help somewhat.
And amazingly, ordinary people go anywhere in the world in comfort for what amounts to a few days' pay ... not so long ago an Atlantic crossing was a risky 2-3-week journey you only did once in a lifetime, with your life savings.
To this day I'm still in childlike awe of wide body/jumbo aircraft...
The C5 Galaxy, the 747 series, A380s, Super Guppies... all incredible feats of engineering.
That 47 touched down like a butterfly with sore feet.
Yes, what a beauty
Landing of ATLAS 747 was clean tho..
Ya, p pretty sure that landing was smooth as butter too. I think they had things under control
Supposed to be stable on the approach well before 30 seconds from landing. And that includes gear down.
@@philipbrit13stable call comes at 1000’, not 30 seconds.
@@SolomonSamson747 I said Well Before 30 seconds
If the headwinds were especially strong and fuel was a concern maybe that was on purpose to maintain speed without having to throttle up.
Obviously no problem with late landing gear, clean approach and land.
The pilot most likely was a bit short on landing speed and decided to hold off on the drag from the gear instead of bumping up the throttles.. FAA frowns because if there is a gear malfunction you have less time to abort then you would over 1 angle..
Thank you for that. 👍👍. What looks good to an outsider can be a cover up, lol 🤣
It wasn't a clean approach, because the aircraft was mot ready to land when it should have been.
That was not a by-the-book landing, and there's a good reason why pilots are supposed to go around if the aircraft is not ready to land below its minimum height above the ground.
@@nigeldepledge3790 Not doubting that, what I said was, to the uninformed ie, me, it looked ok. Just by chance passing BHX this afternoon I saw a plane dip out of the sky with landing lights on, some way off. Pilot obviously wasn't happy as lights went out and he climbed back into the cloud, presumably for a go around.
Atlas Air just saving some jet fuel
Possibly because there wasn’t much left in the tanks.
Agreed. Throttled way back, they got the runway made, no reason to create a bunch of drag and need to throttle up all over again. Just float that sucker in.
Atlas FOM says "configured and stable by 1000'". That should have been a go around.
What nickname would you give to the pilot after that landing?
Hauling around Dollar General junk merchandise isn't cheap.
As long as you are still in the air it's probably never too late for some landing gear 😄
Yeah - 'too late' would have been 1:00
To me, a layperson, "too late" looks synonymous with "in plenty of time." 🤷♂
That A380 was on the east west runway in Sydney, taking off into our winter strong westerly winds. I've seen 737's do almost 30 degrees striaght up there.
Well spotted!
At the begin of the takeoff run you can see a windsock in the background. One red or white ring indicates 3 knots. Fully extended 15 knots. In this case I would guess the wind was gusting between 3 and 15 knots.
@@hendrik1745
On a cold frosty morning with a bit of fog - air temperature 2 degrees C
it would take off in even less runway length.
It is fake- watch again closely.
I love how 3 minutes of aviation doesn’t show clickbait titles and actually show the clip
Yeah. There's a special (solitary confinement) place in heaven for this "channel".
I agree, but it would be nice to know WHY these issues happened.
Never mind. I should have checked the description first.
"Ready to copy phone number for possible Ryanair employment"
funny..be more original
@@BigGurk Sad..be more karen
@@The-Cat Hilarious..be more cat-like
@@The-Cat Interesting..be more honest
@@The-Cat u think ryanair jokes are fun?
Kelsey’s first trip as a captain. 😂
I was just going to say "Kelsey strikes again" hahahahahaha!! Well done 👏
74 gear fans are every where L.O.L
Lolllll
@@garyb6219 you don't think he flies both the 400 and -8?
@@OMG_No_Way I mentioned in my comment on how I saw Kelsey waving at the camera, and this video must have been taken when he was still an FO.
That Emirates A380 stole the Ryanair pilots lift !
The Atlas Air gear lowering was not too late. Even with gear warnings the pilot can choose to wait to lower the gear at his / her discretion.
@@billmorris2613You accidentally put your comment as a reply to someone else's unrelated comment instead of putting it in the main comment section.
AtlasAir CEO :Figure a way to cut fuel cost"
Pilots "nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnow"
Great response from the Eurowings pilot! Immediate go around without over rotating saving it from tail strike!
Anyone wondering, the runway at Norwich Airport (EGSH) is 6,040ft so pretty short for a 737-800.
The longest runway at Santos Dumont (SBRJ) is about 4,300 feet, and B738's operate from there routinely.
Almost twice what the A380 needed according to the video! (Yes, I realize that's not the norm.)
Interesting, from where did you get those figures?
@@tonytheflyerIt is not about that a certain aircraft type is operating out of a certain Aerodrome, it is about where they are effing going! If it is a short hop of 20 minutes or a holiday flight to Hurghada in Egypt or the Canary Islands. And those flights are ALWAYS fully booked! And then there is the weather, wind, wind direction. load, time of day aso
For crying out loud, read up on the Air France incident with their 340-300 out of Bogotá, or back in the day, German airline LTU with their MD11doing DUS-LAX - departure time was scheduled before 10am, as otherwise during the hot summer months June, July and August it was just to warm to Sontheim flight nonstop, so often Winnipeg was chosen for a re-fuelling stop over.
@@wakeupcall2665 It wasn't my intention to write a whole text book on the affects of density altitude and weight on takeoff and landing performance and operating procedures from smaller airports, I was only pointing out the fact that the B738 is capable of operating out of runways shorter than 6,000 feet.
If Knight Industries made the 747 the cockpit alarm be like:
"erm Michael, aren't we forgetting something?"
Michael is busy combing his hair in the rear-view mirror. "Whatssup Kit?"
"We're only a few hundred feet above the runway Michael. Is there anything you'd like me to do? Anything you think I should *lower*?"
Michael Knight was too busy running on a California beach in slow motion to rescue a 22 year old female who can’t swim. 🤷🏻♂️
Poor KITT doesn't even like to fly.
@@vespurrs aren't you thinking of Mr T? 😂
@fluchterschoen Mr T was afraid of flying too! But if you look up "KITT hates flying" on UA-cam a video titled "KITT goes flying: should pop up. Watch it! He tells Michael he's afraid of flying! 😂
Eurowings Discover pilots must’ve discovered how to perform a hard landing and do a go around 😂
😂😂😂
It's just Eurowings, without Discover
i can imagine the plane's screaming "ouch, my ankle hurts" 😅
Former naval aviator on the flight deck forget that it was not a carrier landing.
Kinda forgot about the flare 🤦♂️
A380 doing its best C-5 Galaxy impression. I swear those things only use like 200 feet of runway.
If they're empty and on training mission, yes. But if they're loaded, they'll take a huge length of runway to get going, same with a C17 or loaded A380
It is fake event. Watch closely.
@@shaunfogarty5744 I did, so what's fake exactly?
eurowings " dear passengers we know you will have some dislocated disks on your back but we are in this together, keep flying with us i promise this next attempt will be butter smooth- by the way wasnt me but the co-pilot he is just a young man and he´s still learning how to land"
Atlas Air pilot did grease that landing.
Finally, someone who uses “grease” and not “butter”.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183as soon as I saw the comment I thought of you 😂😂😂
@@MeppyMan 😂😂😂
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183yeah…we in the biz NEVER say butter
"hey copilot!", "yes, pilot", "isnt that lever supposed to be down?"', "well, if you want to land, yes", "oooops!"
Don’t give up on your day job. You won’t make it as a comedian. 😂😂
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Tough crowd
@@Belgianbanshee nah, it’s tough love.
It’s Captain and First Officer. Nobody calls them pilots…at least those of us that work on them don’t.
That Eurowings smack was a bit terrifying.😮
Oh yes, it seems the Eurowings employed like "late flare/no flare" technique here in this little mishap, but there may be more to it (downdraft perhaps), than poor / wrong pilot's technique.
Did the plane make it back ok?
That was some hellacious windshear!
I think the Atlas was just fine piloting.😊
RyanAir- We go that extra length
We paid for the whole runway , we'll use the whole runway 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1/3 of my 3 minutes watching a completely unremarkable landing by the Atlas Air 747. I want my minute back.
indeed.
Time is a illusion. You never had a minute.
Remarkable to those that fly..quite a serious breach of SOP
You'd only waste it, anyway!
Ryan-Air pilot: "WE PAY FOR THE FULL RUNWAY!"
Ryan-Air pilot - Maybe I shouldn’t have smuggled that extra thousand pounds of contraband.
Thanks for the great footage. Always enjoy your uploads.
From a non-pilot, non-copilot, non-flight engineer or navigator or any other titles involved with flying a plane.
Ryanair 737 was loaded heavy with passengers and fuel that's why whole runway needed. I experienced that before on an Eastern Airlines flight. I heard the ground crew say give this flight extra fuel it's loaded heavy. From my window I could determine the end of the runway and it was close.
I remember one of the space shuttle landings where the gear came down about what seemed like five seconds before the wheels touched the runway. It was controlled by the onboard computer system and it drew a lot of attention.
That Emirates planes landing gear looks so tiny compared to the plane size. Looks weird!
Yeah but once you seeing in real it's something
And think: That landing gear has to endure hard landings and RTOs. 😎 Impressive engineering
@@MBEATZ331 … I’m sure it must be fantastic to see in person.
@@SDRob01 … Yeah! It sure is cool looking, though I’ve never seen one in person. All I’ve seen in person were UH-1H (Huey) helicopters and OH-58 helicopters, when I was in the U.S. Army in the 1980s. And I road in a DC-10 a few times while going to Germany and back, etc., while in the Army in the late 1970s. That was fun!!! One DC-10 wouldn’t lift up, so we had to do an emergency landing on an island off of Bangor, Maine. They fixed it and we were off again.
I thought that with the engines, as well, they seem small for such a large aircraft.
1:46 Ahh Ryanair, you don't disappoint.
🤣🤣🤣
A friend of mine was on American Eagle flight 4539 from Toronto to Boston in June 2007. Apparently the pilots got three greens in the regional jet while preparing to land but they were inaccurate. The plane touched the runway at Logan and sparks flew - but the pilots were able to go to full power and get it back in the air. After using an emergency method for lowering the gears, the plane made a safe landing.
That RyanAir takeoff may not have been safe, but it made for an incredible piece of footage!
Maybe that Atlas Air Pilot was a former Space Shuttle Captain? They deployed their Landing gear at around 290 feet so he got plenty of time at 500....
Ha ha, like the audible reaction from the plane spotter for Eurowings clip 1:15. "Ouch!". LOL.
0:33 They must've heard "WOOP WOOP Pull Up Pull Up WOOP WOOP Pull Up Pull Up" and thought it was the end for a moment
The alert should be just "Landing gear, landing gear." Given the circumstances, it would be clear to the aircrew why they were receiving that particular alert.
They would not receive an excessive descent rate or terrain closure rate warning in that situation. Their rates were not excessive. They would receive a TOO LOW - GEAR clearance notification and think “rats, we will need to explain this”
WOOP WOOP
Amazing the blow that Eurowing’s gear was able to absorb without breaking.
Love that chrome-moly.
Whoever invented the pogo stick with wings was a genius!
Three of these appeared to be perfectly normal landings of take offs. I think this channel is conning us.
The A380 is a quick aircraft down the runway! Usually they're slow to maximize passenger comfort.
Quick? She seems so slow in that video...
@@katho8472 Yes because she's huge😀🙏!
How did you measure the distance from ground on your camera to ascertain it was too low? Just a question.
based on a ~50sec clip to the point of touchdown, they could have gone 160KTS / 3600sec * ~50sec / 3 * 1000 = ~740ft altitude, or 140KTS / 3600sec * ~50sec / 3 * 1000 = 648ft, alternatively, if you do it from the moment the gear was down to the moment of touchdown, and if we use 150kts being the average of 160kts and 140kts, then ~150KTS / 3600 * ~36sec / 3 * 1000 = ~500ft, in other words in all likelihood the aircraft was above 500ft even if you waited in the clip until the gear was extended, given the ~36sec between then and touchdown and it was probably going >150kts, the rule of thumb used by pilots given the standard ~3deg glideslope is distance from the runway in NM divided by 3 multiplied by 1000 equals FT you should be at above airport elevation, e.g. 9NM out / 3 * 1000 = 3000ft, but you can use an aspect of that by guessing the aircraft speed and thus time to cover distance thus altitude at the start.
@@b101uk9these cargo 747s can have a 165 knot ref speed.
What do you mean @ 1:40 the Ryanair used up the whole runway? There must have been 50 - 60 feet left before those tires hit grass !
In aviation, that’s extremely short…
@@Dangerspeed862 I was being sarcastic.
I always found it satisfying how it looks like the boeing 747 is only using about 20 degrees of flaps to land
That A380 took off inside the runway's touchdown zone. That's crazy!
was still was past 100 meters as stated
@@Barry-r3onobody stated 100 meters. Second time you make that response. The video say 1000 meters.
Actually I took that video, and with the reference to Terminal Chart and runway marking, it is estimated that only about 820 meters runway were used at the moment the main wheels off the ground.
Despite the size of 380.A380 requires much lesser Runway to takeoff and land than most of the Smaller aircrafts. 🙂
@@RahulRk-tr7ot that’s not true.
No issue for the 747. PIlot was just checking and calibrating the ground proximity warning system
AtlasAir... either ignored landing checklist.. or did the late gear down because of winds or something.. cargo jet so perhaps not the same procedures as commercial airliners.
No wonder my parcel came broken.
Kelsey was low energy state, needed to shave some drag.
Must have run out of snacks.
We do exactly the same like any other Jetliner. There is no procedure to be not configured at 1000 FT latest. These guys most probably will have a cup of coffee with their boss.
@@stadt-mensch6302 Perhaps it was a check of the warning system following landing gear maintenance? Conditionally approved, but only if favorable landing conditions were present? Don't know -- just thinking out loud.
I saw Kelsey wave at the camera from that Atlas Air 747. Must’ve been back when he was still an FO.
Late landing gear extension, but not too late
Done for a testing the alarms, most likely, that the gear had not yet been extended for landing.
"UA-cam channel extends the meaning of the word 'too' too much"
The first one when the ground proximity warning went off: Pilot 'I knew there was something else I had to do. Good job we have warning systems to remind us'.
pilot comment above states this may have been an examination run: test to make sure the warnings a 1,000 feet are working well.
The Aerosucre pilot trainer nods approvingly that the Atlas Air pilots ignore the stupid aircraft warnings. The 'too low gear' warning should only be used for when the crew is running low on drugs.
There was a pilot from a former swiss airline, with a long career, even flight instructor. Was asked by an unexperienced co-pilot if it's possible to retract the gear on the ground and the captain said no, it's not possible and levered the switch, the gear retracted and the airplane was a wreck. He had several more incidents and was every time allowed to keep his license and his position as flight instructor of the airline. Some years later he was responsible for a fatal crash were all died, Melanie Thornton was also on that plane.
"Landing gear too late" and yet, they landed safely.
All about getting them clicks!
It certainly wasn't TOO late!
"Another happy landing!" - Obi Wan Kenobi
"Landing gear too late" actually would be the description of a belly landing - but yeah, it always has to sound like catastrophic, so you need a "too". Its always "too late", "too high", "too low" or you have too ... few clicks.
Too late for meeting the requirement of "fully configured for landing and on a stabilized approach" by 1000 ft.
That Atlas Air pilot has done that a thousand times.
That A380 takeoff almost looks "fake" as if in one of those cheap movies someone tied a rope to lift that huge thing off the ground...
It was fake- good eye. I am a little stunned at how many people think that was a real and come up with all sorts of plausibility theories to support their confirmation bias.
Wonder if that's @74Gear in the Atlas?
That Eurowings A321 smacked the runway like it made a joke about its wife or something.
KEEP MY WIFE’S RUBBER OUT YO DAMN ASPHALT!
Ryanair: Can you drive a car?
Prospective employee: Yes.
Ryanair: Good, you're halfway there already.
I can’t believe they didn’t understand the warning..
I think that the altitude that triggers this alert is 500 ft AGL, not 1000 ft AGL.
The only time when it's too late to extend the landing gear is AFTER they have landed. As long as they extend the gear any time BEFORE the landing it's not too late. The really important thing is as long as they get the gear down before they land - anything else is just gravy.
I was expecting to see a landing gear collapse.
@@dentalnovember Or a go-around.
I bet that was a fun ride in that A380 taking off. Several years ago flying on a Delta 757 out of Atlanta to O'Hare they did a full power takeoff. Plane was half full, doubt it had a full load of fuel due to the short hop. That was freaking nuts, I swear we were flying up at a 45 degree angle trying to get above a line of thunderstorms.
Ryanair pilots: We paid for this runway, we're using it all!
Ryanair wasn‘t THAT late as you might think !
Norwichs runway 09/27 is about 6040ft long. The touchdown zone mark is about 1000 feet off the threshold mark. In the video, the main gear lifts just before the TD-zone mark, so there were enough space. It‘s just the „wavy“ area before the spot, were you guess, that there is no runway (but it is, look/focus the marks in the video)
Ryanair?!?!?!? 2:02
A similar thing happened with a TUI 737 back in March. Serious software glitch caused a fault with the Auto Throttles. I'm definitely avoiding Boeing these days!!
Everything in these videos looked perfectly fine to me except the hard landing one. I hope you guys are not going to try jump on the click bait bandwagon.
You owe us 5 seconds buddy 😂
The gear on Atlas Air was down when it was needed. ATC probably asked them to fly an approach speed above the max gear extension speed. Probably happens more often than you think.
You owe us 5 seconds of aviation.
That ryanair mistake resulted in the highest quality footage of a 737 takeoff
Not gonna lie that Atlas Air 747 landing was beautiful. 😩
I think the landing gear deployment was just fine, less drag. Bob
Got through that landing check list just in time
GENIUS DESIGN
@flyaviat-060 I most certainly do agree with u, but the american a/c shows that the u.s. is a very bad idea 👎 & that they do NOT belong on the r/ws of other nations 😢😢😢
The F-15 clip was not a compressor stall. It was an AB blowout(AfterBurner blowout). Somewhat common on the F-100 engines that the F-15 and some F-16 use.
That Atlas landing in Dallas maybe in hot weather? Hot temps reduce lift a little so waiting to deploy gear would be a thing.
No. Hot weather doesn’t do anything to landing.
Holy schnikies!! I've never flown commercial and not felt the landing gear deploy any later than at the beginning of the approach leg.
00:30 he was wondering why the plane was going so fast.
1:15 he thought he was landing on a carrier.
2:00 he thought he had it floored.
The Ryanair took off amply within take off limits. The last part of the runway was invisible at the camera's position.
The wing's shadow, which is ahead of the airplane, suddenly disappears. And at that specific moment the shadow is still on a section of the runway with the painted center line.
Ryanair co-pilot to the pilot: Hey pal, maybe it's time to take off !
Ryainair pilot : Yeah right, forgot I was on the plane, I felt I was still in my car.
Thank you for driving Ryan Air.
If you check the windsock at 2:20 there is a howling headwind to assist the Emirates flight.
Ryanair- “We pay our pilots for air miles traveled. They are ordered to use the whole runway to reduce the distance traveled in the air!” 😮
Those Ryan Air pilots will be getting an email from Petter/Mentour for a refresher. LOL
1:51 look at the Ryanair engines!😂😂😂
That Ryanair takeoff makes me wonder: can you rotate when the runway is on a downslope? Looks to me like the pilot waited until the plane had crested the hill.
it was normal, the did what pilots call a Short Runway Take off
The downslope is exaggerated by the camera zoom
@@jostmatheI’ve never heard of a “Short Runway Take Off” in 32 years of flying. 😂
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 so you have never had of short field takeoff ?
@@jostmathe sure, I’ve done plenty of short field take offs. But that’s not what you said. I’ve never heard anyone say Short Runway Take Off.
That Ryanair, were his flaps in the take-off position? Looks like a clean wing...
Gear on the 744 looked down & locked well before touchdown to me, but could a go-around be initiated without touching the runway with a full airplane?
What if you have a compressor stall on an aircraft carrier? Ocean ditch/ EJECTION SEAT?
Non aviator here: In the first section with the late landing gear deployment, is this not a go around because the pilot had not satisfied all the conditions of a ‘stable approach’ for the landing?
Are the wings in the Emirates A380 mechanically articulated, or is that just the pressure of the air flexing them? I've never seen anything like that before.
@ Ryanair: is it just the perspective? If not : where do they have the V1 , looong before rotate ?
Not perspective, but keep in mind that in calculating FAR field length requirements the aircraft is only required to be at 35 ft (IIRC) by the endo of the runway, which is roughly what this one was. OTOH, that's with an engine lost at V1, so it shouldn't have been this close. Maybe a headwind shifted to a tailwind.
@@marcmcreynolds2827it was fine. On rotation, I’d say there was still 1000 to 1500 feet left. It would’ve been fine if it had an engine failure at V1.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Agree as to rotation distance. What I couldn't say, since it isn't clear where the threshold is crossed, was whether 35 feet would have been achieved with an engine out thousands of feet earlier. Based on my work involving airliner performance, my guess is "no" unless perhaps it was a derated-thrust takeoff.
BTW, I'm realizing that my wind shift scenario above doesn't hold water. That would likely look like a rotation but no unstick for some period of time. Like the L-1011 I saw at Lambert which pitched up and then spent over a thousand feet waiting for something to happen.