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Its funny how, as one gets older, the themes and plots are actually more enjoyable. I played this for the first time when I was 13. Today after seeing this (now 31yo) I get the feels that didnt in my first playthrough
FFVIII is the one FF that proposed the greatest character growth of all. You can observe, compare, dive into Squall's mind, his relationships throughout the story and his journey to become lord of his destiny, taking his path onto his hands and leave a mark on the world. Seifer and Squall, they started differently, but only one found a fulfilling life. A life of meaning. Seifer had dreams, Squall had principles. Dreams without principle will eventually lead to underhanded shortcuts. Principles will help you stand through the test of time and circumstances.
This scene really captured my heart when I first played this game. I love how two people have a chance to open up their hearts to each other, without the interference of others hanging over their heads, and really explore their relationship further. There's just something captivating about having time alone together and learning more about each other.
Exactly lol: but having been in his exact position before...only having taken a Rinoa away from a Seifer as all real men inevitably do: maybe multiple times at that: this was also Squall realizing: *"Either way: this pussy is totally mine now."* But also this makes it seem to suggest She DID sleep with him: as *she said she had been desperate after her mom died and dad ignored her.* Hence: my guess is this wold confirm Seifer was a fling for attention. Squall was the obsession she was waiting for. Aka: *context doesn't change: except we confirm Seifer got some Attention Sex.* Minus this isn't just bad japanese translation that is lol.
Wait, "real men" get women by picking them up after they're dumped by the previous guy? Also who's to say Squall isn't just a fling for attention, either? We never know how long their relationship lasts.
Seems like they were trying to push in dialogue so players knew how Squall would react to Rinoa's past with Seifer, but it seems kind of half assed, so I understand why they cut it. Still, it's nice to see a basic outline of his reaction. I don't think he'd be jealous anyway, as he basically won Rinoa's affections as it is, beating Seifer in romance.
That's not how girls brains work though. Luckily for our guy it did. In reality the Seifers of the world are the ones that have the most success with women. They love when a guy shows indifference
@@mgway4661 . But it wasnt the opposite? Wasnt Seifer the most romantic and dreamer of both? While Squall showed indifference...He started to show his true feelings for Rinoa once he thought her lost, after Edea's battle.
@@SeventhheavenDK yeah you are right, by the way rinoa describe seifer he was the perfect man, charismatic, romantic, and a nice person to her, heck the reason he went to timber was because of her, he wanted to be her knight. while squall was really bad with her and it was trough time that squall started to change that he and became a better person that he started to warm up to her and treated her better. also seifer wasn't this evil asshole, he was a person that was overconfident and easily manipulate. if you pay attention the reason seifer was the way he was with squall was because squall was his equal in combat and antithesis in his view of life.
At 5:19 shows that rinoa never had intimate relationship with seifer before.Because so many people think that seifer and rinoa had a ln intimate relationship referring to disc 2 play, when squall and his co engage sorceress edea and seifer at galbadia garden, player can trigger short dialogue between seifer and rinoa if player add rinoa to the team.Seifer said they had something between them at the last summer, but with this video, empasize that rinoa never touches(cuddle i think) someone like this before, except her mom (or laguna first crush) in the past.I think this dialogue can be seen at japanese version, because the dialogue mostly original compared with translated version.
Bongguk Pangaribuan Of course she never went intimate with Seifer. They went out for just a summer and both were not just teenagers, but Asia-made teenagers. People are just dirty with their thoughts.
the extra dialogues are "hidden" because they can't be seen in the game, I have used a file extractor to gain them and then I have mounted the entire scene
Have you ever found a scene of Fujin having a nightmare? It happened to me and my friend but we could never trigger it again. It happens when they occupy Balamb.
the expressions depicted here was just a bare minimum, as this wasn't even presented with the animated FMV/CGs. but the power within the song and tiny movements filled this whole scene complete.
Pretty sure there are some other parts in the game changes what they say depending on what you do. Just can’t remember now. Only things I can remember is when they’re in the basketball court Irvine will get the ball in the basket or bounce it off the rim and miss. And other is the music for the concert. First time I did the concert I didn’t match up any of the instruments to the same song.
We learn early in the plot that Rinoa had feelings for Seifer. I don't think they actually 'dated' though - it was a sort of friendly admiration, which Rinoa explains to Selphie along the lines that it might have been love but she isn't sure. By the time the party meets Adel, Seifer totally loses the plot and throws Rinoa to the ground. I'm sure there was no love lost between them.
Well when you have Rinoa in your party and fight Sifer on disc 2 he says "Riona, what are you doing here? You're going to fight me too? Remember a year ago we..." and then she cuts him off by yelling "Shut up". So clearly something happened between them. We don't know what but it is something Seifer remembers.
floooooooooooooooood yea I remember that too. And looking at this hidden conversation, this makes me believe that they were dating. Well, its all in the past anyway, lol
floooooooooooooooood A left over material from Macross Plus, when Guld/Seifer 'touched Myung/Rinoa with 'all 21 of his fingers'. Obviously, Rinoa don't want the game to be re-released under CERO C or D rating, so she told Seifer to be silent. Anyway. The whole Zack-Aerith-Cloud also a mix of the original Macross TV series. When I mean a mix, I truly mean a mix. Anyway. Zack is also based on Sonic the Hedgehog, while Cloud is also based on Miles 'Tails' Prower. Tails of course later on pick up a green haired chick with his Messiah Tornado…, oops! Sorry, X-Tornado.
@@fahriza88 I think they just banged! If I were Squal, upon learning that Seifer had inserted his "gunblade" into Rinoa's bonus hole, I'd have dropped her like a rock and run away with Quistis. I'm pretty sure she can get very wild with that whip of hers:)
Uhm, why should he be jealous on a guy who just spoke a few words to her in the last Weeks, while shes sitting on his lap, looking in his Eyes, stroking his cheek and telling him, on her own way, that shes in love with him ... Just a few seconds before a first Kiss. (If it wouldnt be a Guy like Squall.)
that's as far as you know....but, remember how Seifer rushed in to try and aid her, abducting the president in timber? something tells me there was some history there we never got to see.
+Solid Shepard I think it's better we don't to see,i get the feeling square was planning some sort of love triangle,final fantasy stories don't need stupid love triangles,especially this one
+Solid Shepard I think it's better we don't to see,i get the feeling square was planning some sort of love triangle,final fantasy stories don't need stupid love triangles,especially this one
Also there is a comment from sifer at dollet : "One day I will tell you about my romantic dream" and the first time they meet Rinoa was eager to see Seifer on the team...I'm definetly sure that something between the 2 had happened :3
Wow, this was so interesting to see! I guess a lot of us who played it on Playstation would never have known. Thank you so much for uploading this. It cleared up a lot for me. ^_^
Im reading comments here that keeps on saying this romantic scene has been cut? Which part in the scene actully ? Bcuz... I think so cuz its like 7 years ago.. I played this game & i think i had this scene in the game. What actually has been cut so not to hastened the romance of squall & rinoa & not out of characters???
1:37 Me:we're standing Me:Guts! Fredrick:we're captured by Seifer! Shawn:let me out here Aru:here's the key... Shan:we gotta get Shawn Back! Year 21XX Gemini Man:Shan? Spark Man:bring me back Me:we gotta go- Snake Man:But how? 2:50 Me:This is our base Fredrick:Survive? Bonzo:we cannot survive without stuff Shawn:me neither Kenzo:back again Fredrick:not us... Bonzo:try again Me:I knew the past years... 20XX Nothing Past Ends Here
I really wish I could have connected with Rinoa, I think I would have enjoyed the story a bit more. Though that’s because I’m a bias card carrying member of the Trepies Objectively speaking, quite a striking scene
Rinoa : Ever since my mom died and dad became too busy, I've never longed to touch someone this much That means she never in a relationship with seifer right? But why i read on ff fandom it said she dated seifer when she was 16. Oh god i am confuse
No idea if this is real or not. I will admit it does suddenly feel out of character for the both of them, glad it cut. However, I do know there are a few points in the game where it's possible to get different dialogue depending on some of your previous actions. The two I can remember for sure are when Laguna and Rinoa's mom (I forgot her name) in the hotel room. And the other was after the concert with Squall and Rinoa.
are there other points in the game with varying dialogues? ive beaten this game many times and ive found that events play out very slightly differently in the past sequences from one playthrough to the next.
hmm, I played FF 8 on PC, and I've never seen this either.. was it .. edited? I mean, the last part (Squall's thoughts) look familiar to me, wasn't it the scene when Rinoa was in a coma, and they were in the infirmary??
I looked up FF VIII extras, and pretty much all of them are in Italian.. too sad.. will you ever add subtitle to those videos, that'd be awesome hehe :)
I just don't understand. How did she become a sorceress in the first place? Did Ultimecia possess her or did Rinoa unintentionally accepted the sorceress power? How did Esther find out about Rinoa the sorceress?
She inherently has something in her that makes it possible for her to receive sorceress powers, then she received them from Edea upon her defeat in Galbadia Garden (Ultimecia’s possession of Rinoa also happened at the same moment). Esthar probably found out about her after she released Adel from the tomb.
When Edea lost the fight against SeeD during the battle of the Gardens, her power jumped into Rinoa on instinct. Along with her power, came Ultimecia (more about that later). Dr. Odine observed Rinoa while she was comatose before she went to the lunar base. Odine probably figured out that her stasis was likely due to her body absorbing Edea's powers, and then transforming/acclimating to those powers. That's how Esthar knew she was a sorceress. (END GAME SPOILER) Edea's power, and by extension Rinoa's power... is actually Ultimecia's power. At the end of the game Ulti dies and passes her power on to Edea. Since it is Ulti's power, she can easily link with it and possess Edea and Rinoa through it, until Rinoa got strong enough to overpower Ulti's influence and thus made the power her own.
The Squall-Rinoa-Seifer thing is nothing. One point during development, Rinoa's actually Edea, who in turn is actually Squall's real mother. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/cd/Ending_FFVIIIStoryboard.jpg See THAT storyboard for the ending! The 'Mysterious Woman' (Edea, or Rinoa in the final version) and Squall're talking to each, then something came out after Squall made a Shooting Star wish, both became very happy and hugged each other just like Final Fantasy VIII's logo. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/cd/Ending_FFVIIIStoryboard.jpg So Squall met a woman/Rinoa, befriended her (I will not comment further), then at near the game's end, she got lost. At the ending, a way much older woman/Edea tried to comfort his 'lost', suggesting to wish upon a star. Squall made a wish, two even. 1. He wants to find Rinoa again. 2. He wants to find his mother too. Squall then commented that he's being greedy, while laughing at the thought of him being a bad child (Page 16, Frame 1). Edea/Rinoa then replied by saying he's always a good boy. Squall looked at her, then quickly finds out that Edea's actually Rinoa, much more, she's actually his mother! He then grabs her (Page 16 Frame 2). Squall and Rinoa/Edea/Julia/Raine/Mother felt ackward at first (P16, F3), then decided to hug anyway (P16, F4). Page 16, Frame 5 supposed to turn into a logo. But then they added an extra scene of Balamb returning back to Earth from the Moon (the Moon is off-limits in the final version). If you can see it, page 14~17 had NO penciled page numbers. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/cd/Ending_FFVIIIStoryboard.jpg Page 13's Rinoa and Page 14's 'Rinoa're different enough. 14's Rinoa looks like a woman in her early or mid 30s. The art styles're also different. Compare also Page 5's Edea to Page 14's 'Rinoa'. You can also see that Irvine proposed to Edea (Cid's gone at P5, F5) while Quistis made a move on Cid (Page 4). Unlike in the final version, where Edea's already married to Cid. This Time Travel story is roughly the same plot from Dragon Knight IV. Older Takeru who lost his entire team, travelled back in time to guide his youngself and the rest of the team for a better fuure.
I was like 9 when this game dropped my aunt had just got a mill of a lawsuit that happen on my 7 bday she took me shopping and i saw this game it was like 80$ that was alot of money back then she also got me mad clothes but i was happy just wit this game it opened up my mind at a real young age i wish they can remaster i feel attached to this game the songs every sound graphics wow makes me feel like a baby again 😿
I remember this scene being amazing when I was a kid, especially when Eyes on Me started playing. Seeing it now...the dialogue definitely has not aged well, especially Squall’s. He’s annoyingly clueless.
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can I ask how did you managed to make this? thanks!!!! is this for real. so, this like a glitch? are you sure there really is a scene like this? seriously the ok, ok I believe you dialogue of squall is a bit off imo.
I will personally blame this Squall-Rinoa-Seifer due the Macross influence in this game. Rinoa's this game's Minmay, while Ragnarok's SDF-1 Macross & VF-1 Valkyrie. See also Blue No. 6 ≈ Ragnarok ≈ Laguna 6 ≈ Ragunaroku ≈ Aoi no Rokugou ≈ 青の6号 ≈ Blue Submarine No.6 ≈ ラグナロク Though Squall and Rinoa're based primary on Macross 7 Trash's Shiba and Enika (who're based on Hikaru and Minmay). Then there's the Macross Plus - Pacific Rim thing: Isamu/Squall/Raleigh, Myung/Rinoa/Mako, and Guld/Seifer/Stacker. Projects're actually unofficially co-developed by companies and organisations together. Even if they're unofficially related to each other, including so called 'rivals' and 'enemies'. Example: Do you know SEGA, Microsoft, Sony, Apple, and Nintendo co-developed the Dreamcast, Gamecube, XBOX, and even PlayStation 2? Columbus/District of Columbia/DC's one of Apple's internal codenames. While Dolphin is the code name for Deep(er) Blue related project (aka Apple-IBM-Motorola's PowerPC). See also stuff like Secret Space Program. Even Final Fantasy VII including even further past ones (VI, V, IV,…) had Macross influences in them. Starship Troopers' Rico → Macross' Hikaru → Final Fantasy VII's Cloud Strife. 1999's Final Fantasy VIII shared various materials with a cancelled 15th anniversary (1997) Macross project, codenamed Macross 15 aka Macross F (Hex F≈15), not to be confused with the later project 10 years later. Though recycling materials is 'The _Name_ of the Game'. Will be waiting for FF=255… Transformable Ragnarok after all got recycled into World of Final Fantasy's XG/Xenogears. Closer near to FF8's release, parts of Ragnarok got recycled into 2001's Gundam SeeD's Arch Angel. Other RPGs and games related to the 1990s' 'Macross F' project: Beast Breeders, Bulk Slash (Baruku Surasshu, a variant of Barukirii/Valkyrie), Dragoon/竜機伝承 2 (RPG), Panzer Dragoon 2, Skies of Arcadia / Eternal Arcadia, Tales of Eternia, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Final Fantasy VII ~ IX, Grandia (Macro≈Big≈Grand≈Max≈Final. See also Big Order) & Rockman DASH / Megaman Legends & Sonic Adventure & Shenmue (from first & 2), Phantasy Star Online, Burning Rangers, and so on… By the time of Ys: The Ark of Napishtim, they already moved into Zero. Compare the siblings of Beast Breeders, Dragoon 2, Di Gi Charat, Zero, Ark, 7th Dragon, and Frozen. Yes, that Frozen… 'Her' codename is that city in Alaska. Then there's Sonic the Hedgehog's _F_lame of Disaster. pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp9fgNHUEAESVRd.jpg Have I mentioned that SEGA or 'SEGA' co-designed the Macross 7's logo? Final Fantasy VII's original Macross 'cousin'. pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl8rhy4UYAAoXip.jpg Its logo variant can be seen in the Mega LD's logo. Mega LD (MLD) is an extension of the Mega CD (MCD) project, it itself an extension of Mega Drive (MD). Mega Drive's named after both Broadway and Megaroad-01 (MR-01).
Having been in his exact position before...only having taken a Rinoa away from a Seifer as all real men inevitably do: maybe multiple times at that: this was also Squall realizing: "Either way: this pussy is totally mine now." But also this makes it seem to suggest She DID sleep with him: as she said she had been desperate after her mom died and dad ignored her. Hence: my guess is this would confirm Seifer was a fling for attention. Squall was the obsession she was waiting for. Aka: context doesn't change: except we confirm Seifer got some Attention Sex. Minus this isn't just bad japanese translation that is lol.
There's an underlying pagan-satanic sympathy here in making the sorceress/witch the object of pity for being an, as is portrayed, innocent victim of unjust persecution.
It's merely my personal conclusion. I completed the game a few times back in the days. Thinking back now just drew my attention to this pattern. You know just, back in the pre modern days or even just by default a common godly person would abhor anything and anyone involved with sorcery/magic/witchcraft. But here for instance, the witch (Rinoa) is portrayed as an innocent object of persecution in which the main protagonist (Squall) is there to protect her no matter what. And this is essentially what the story revolves around. The innocent witch and her loyal knight that is there to love and protect her. It's very typically satanic in its subversion. But this pattern is very commonly observable in mainstream entertainment once you get the hang of how it all operates. The everyday atheist or satanist wouldn't really notice or care. But people devoted to God would certainly get what's up and going on with all this.
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Its funny how, as one gets older, the themes and plots are actually more enjoyable. I played this for the first time when I was 13. Today after seeing this (now 31yo) I get the feels that didnt in my first playthrough
Indeed
20 years later I still didn’t enjoy it. I bought it on iOS and can’t even finish the game. What a waste of money.
@@alimichalkan8046 Maybe don't play it on iOS?
FFVIII is the one FF that proposed the greatest character growth of all. You can observe, compare, dive into Squall's mind, his relationships throughout the story and his journey to become lord of his destiny, taking his path onto his hands and leave a mark on the world. Seifer and Squall, they started differently, but only one found a fulfilling life. A life of meaning. Seifer had dreams, Squall had principles. Dreams without principle will eventually lead to underhanded shortcuts. Principles will help you stand through the test of time and circumstances.
Sadly is the only character they developed at all in this game (Maybe Rinoa a little, too).
@@SeventhheavenDK What about Laguna?
Squall does not look feeing love with Rinoa at the beginning. That's why Rinoa starts to love squall.
This scene really captured my heart when I first played this game. I love how two people have a chance to open up their hearts to each other, without the interference of others hanging over their heads, and really explore their relationship further. There's just something captivating about having time alone together and learning more about each other.
Just goes to show, I completed this game over a decade ago, and 10 years on, I'm still learning about it.
Exactly lol: but having been in his exact position before...only having taken a Rinoa away from a Seifer as all real men inevitably do: maybe multiple times at that: this was also Squall realizing: *"Either way: this pussy is totally mine now."*
But also this makes it seem to suggest She DID sleep with him: as *she said she had been desperate after her mom died and dad ignored her.* Hence: my guess is this wold confirm Seifer was a fling for attention.
Squall was the obsession she was waiting for. Aka: *context doesn't change: except we confirm Seifer got some Attention Sex.* Minus this isn't just bad japanese translation that is lol.
Benjamin Keith Seifer: enjoy your sloppy seconds Squall lol
Phoenix1664 Same here I beat ff8 a decade ago as well I'm still learning something new from it myself
Wait, "real men" get women by picking them up after they're dumped by the previous guy?
Also who's to say Squall isn't just a fling for attention, either? We never know how long their relationship lasts.
Seems like they were trying to push in dialogue so players knew how Squall would react to Rinoa's past with Seifer, but it seems kind of half assed, so I understand why they cut it. Still, it's nice to see a basic outline of his reaction. I don't think he'd be jealous anyway, as he basically won Rinoa's affections as it is, beating Seifer in romance.
That's not how girls brains work though. Luckily for our guy it did. In reality the Seifers of the world are the ones that have the most success with women. They love when a guy shows indifference
@@mgway4661 . But it wasnt the opposite? Wasnt Seifer the most romantic and dreamer of both? While Squall showed indifference...He started to show his true feelings for Rinoa once he thought her lost, after Edea's battle.
matthew gallaway You sound like you have no luck with women😂😂😂😂
@@SeventhheavenDK yeah you are right, by the way rinoa describe seifer he was the perfect man, charismatic, romantic, and a nice person to her, heck the reason he went to timber was because of her, he wanted to be her knight. while squall was really bad with her and it was trough time that squall started to change that he and became a better person that he started to warm up to her and treated her better. also seifer wasn't this evil asshole, he was a person that was overconfident and easily manipulate. if you pay attention the reason seifer was the way he was with squall was because squall was his equal in combat and antithesis in his view of life.
Squall: you mean...Seifer?
Rinoa: Jealous now?
ahahahaha, poor Squall!
Francesco Patton ahhhhhhh
Francesco Patton ~Whatever~
of course he was haha
At 5:19 shows that rinoa never had intimate relationship with seifer before.Because so many people think that seifer and rinoa had a ln intimate relationship referring to disc 2 play, when squall and his co engage sorceress edea and seifer at galbadia garden, player can trigger short dialogue between seifer and rinoa if player add rinoa to the team.Seifer said they had something between them at the last summer, but with this video, empasize that rinoa never touches(cuddle i think) someone like this before, except her mom (or laguna first crush) in the past.I think this dialogue can be seen at japanese version, because the dialogue mostly original compared with translated version.
Bongguk Pangaribuan Of course she never went intimate with Seifer. They went out for just a summer and both were not just teenagers, but Asia-made teenagers. People are just dirty with their thoughts.
Also, girls can lie
If this a misstranslation, i feel glad. Who want bitches to be your wife. I'm not sure if Nojima make a story suck like this.
She says "longed to touch". Not "I never touched", dunno what the Japanese says but the English doesn't confirm that at all.
@@lebagel Yeah, Squall love to marry a bitch
I hope one day they will remake this version because it's so amazing
Agree
this space ship segment.....is my favorite part of any game I've ever played.
the extra dialogues are "hidden" because they can't be seen in the game, I have used a file extractor to gain them and then I have mounted the entire scene
TheFF8fan woooow
thank you very much
you are good researcher
I got these without a file extractor I believe it has to do with options you choose in the game while playing once you encounter Rinoa
TheFF8fan so nobody can play this on ps1? then for who square make this dialogue in ps1 era?
Have you ever found a scene of Fujin having a nightmare? It happened to me and my friend but we could never trigger it again. It happens when they occupy Balamb.
the expressions depicted here was just a bare minimum, as this wasn't even presented with the animated FMV/CGs. but the power within the song and tiny movements filled this whole scene complete.
The extra scene starts at 5:20
"Ok, Ok, I believe you" IT'S A JUST A PANKCAKE REFERENCE
I was just about to comment that lol
Pretty sure there are some other parts in the game changes what they say depending on what you do. Just can’t remember now. Only things I can remember is when they’re in the basketball court Irvine will get the ball in the basket or bounce it off the rim and miss. And other is the music for the concert. First time I did the concert I didn’t match up any of the instruments to the same song.
We learn early in the plot that Rinoa had feelings for Seifer. I don't think they actually 'dated' though - it was a sort of friendly admiration, which Rinoa explains to Selphie along the lines that it might have been love but she isn't sure. By the time the party meets Adel, Seifer totally loses the plot and throws Rinoa to the ground. I'm sure there was no love lost between them.
Well when you have Rinoa in your party and fight Sifer on disc 2 he says "Riona, what are you doing here? You're going to fight me too? Remember a year ago we..." and then she cuts him off by yelling "Shut up". So clearly something happened between them. We don't know what but it is something Seifer remembers.
floooooooooooooooood yea I remember that too. And looking at this hidden conversation, this makes me believe that they were dating. Well, its all in the past anyway, lol
floooooooooooooooood A left over material from Macross Plus, when Guld/Seifer 'touched Myung/Rinoa with 'all 21 of his fingers'. Obviously, Rinoa don't want the game to be re-released under CERO C or D rating, so she told Seifer to be silent.
Anyway. The whole Zack-Aerith-Cloud also a mix of the original Macross TV series. When I mean a mix, I truly mean a mix.
Anyway. Zack is also based on Sonic the Hedgehog, while Cloud is also based on Miles 'Tails' Prower. Tails of course later on pick up a green haired chick with his Messiah Tornado…, oops! Sorry, X-Tornado.
@@fahriza88 I think they just banged! If I were Squal, upon learning that Seifer had inserted his "gunblade" into Rinoa's bonus hole, I'd have dropped her like a rock and run away with Quistis. I'm pretty sure she can get very wild with that whip of hers:)
i love this scene it's my favourite in the whole game i want this song played at my wedding
I haven't played this game since 1999, the memories
+The Law Yes, memories indeed, which brings me to one question I have to ask you: What are you waiting for?! Play it again! XD
Did you play it again? I'm curious...
squall is hilarious funny guy
I'm putting my baby to sleep watching this 😁
yeah, with chreepy choir _Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec_ chant at the end. Wish sweet dreams to your baby
Uhm, why should he be jealous on a guy who just spoke a few words to her in the last Weeks, while shes sitting on his lap, looking in his Eyes, stroking his cheek and telling him, on her own way, that shes in love with him ... Just a few seconds before a first Kiss. (If it wouldnt be a Guy like Squall.)
that's as far as you know....but, remember how Seifer rushed in to try and aid her, abducting the president in timber? something tells me there was some history there we never got to see.
+Solid Shepard I think it's better we don't to see,i get the feeling square was planning some sort of love triangle,final fantasy stories don't need stupid love triangles,especially this one
+Solid Shepard I think it's better we don't to see,i get the feeling square was planning some sort of love triangle,final fantasy stories don't need stupid love triangles,especially this one
Also there is a comment from sifer at dollet : "One day I will tell you about my romantic dream"
and the first time they meet Rinoa was eager to see Seifer on the team...I'm definetly sure that something between the 2 had happened :3
Seifer meant it as a man's romance.
Not like actual romance.
Kinda hard to explain it exactly. But you get the point.
I think the title for most romantic FF goes to FFVIII. But then again it's been a decade since I last played it.
Wow, this was so interesting to see! I guess a lot of us who played it on Playstation would never have known. Thank you so much for uploading this. It cleared up a lot for me. ^_^
Im reading comments here that keeps on saying this romantic scene has been cut? Which part in the scene actully ? Bcuz... I think so cuz its like 7 years ago.. I played this game & i think i had this scene in the game. What actually has been cut so not to hastened the romance of squall & rinoa & not out of characters???
Dammit, this is the part of the game where I always breakdown, For all my playthroughs, I think I only finished the game once!
they should have just kept this as the original story..... i liked it way more
+starzz323 I agree, Squall seemed human for a second XD
Ricardo it’s so weird how squall kneel down to Riona like he was about to proposal to her.
@@kavitator5083Kavitator most hilarious comment I've ever seen haha.
There was no love triangle in the Japanese version.
Please anyone please remake this interaction with our current technology.
Would be cool if this scene in remake version ahhhhh i love these two thoughhh
The past doesn't matter eh? so Seifer must be the tip of the iceberg maybe zone too lmao.
and i guess they are the first touch screen that fully responsive back in the day lol
1:37
Me:we're standing
Me:Guts!
Fredrick:we're captured by Seifer!
Shawn:let me out here
Aru:here's the key...
Shan:we gotta get Shawn Back!
Year 21XX
Gemini Man:Shan?
Spark Man:bring me back
Me:we gotta go-
Snake Man:But how?
2:50
Me:This is our base
Fredrick:Survive?
Bonzo:we cannot survive without stuff
Shawn:me neither
Kenzo:back again
Fredrick:not us...
Bonzo:try again
Me:I knew the past years...
20XX
Nothing
Past
Ends
Here
I really wish I could have connected with Rinoa, I think I would have enjoyed the story a bit more.
Though that’s because I’m a bias card carrying member of the Trepies
Objectively speaking, quite a striking scene
Rinoa : Ever since my mom died and dad became too busy, I've never longed to touch someone this much
That means she never in a relationship with seifer right?
But why i read on ff fandom it said she dated seifer when she was 16.
Oh god i am confuse
Rinoa definitely spent time with Seifer, and there was probably an understanding between them, but they never physically touched each other.
No idea if this is real or not. I will admit it does suddenly feel out of character for the both of them, glad it cut. However, I do know there are a few points in the game where it's possible to get different dialogue depending on some of your previous actions. The two I can remember for sure are when Laguna and Rinoa's mom (I forgot her name) in the hotel room. And the other was after the concert with Squall and Rinoa.
are there other points in the game with varying dialogues?
ive beaten this game many times and ive found that events play out very slightly differently in the past sequences from one playthrough to the next.
Rinoa's giant lap always took me out of the romance of it haha.
This was in the original game. No hidden messages here.
hmm, I played FF 8 on PC, and I've never seen this either.. was it .. edited? I mean, the last part (Squall's thoughts) look familiar to me, wasn't it the scene when Rinoa was in a coma, and they were in the infirmary??
[..AMI ON TOP..] this game has alot of secrets boy
Remake it pleaseee,, i will definitely buy whatever console just to play the remake,
I need more dialogue for Squall in the upcoming remake
I looked up FF VIII extras, and pretty much all of them are in Italian.. too sad.. will you ever add subtitle to those videos, that'd be awesome hehe :)
I have posted other hidden things about this game. You can find them searching "Final Fantasy VIII EXTRA" (but many of them are in Italian Language)
I just don't understand. How did she become a sorceress in the first place? Did Ultimecia possess her or did Rinoa unintentionally accepted the sorceress power? How did Esther find out about Rinoa the sorceress?
Edea transfer her power to Rinoa
She inherently has something in her that makes it possible for her to receive sorceress powers, then she received them from Edea upon her defeat in Galbadia Garden (Ultimecia’s possession of Rinoa also happened at the same moment). Esthar probably found out about her after she released Adel from the tomb.
When Edea lost the fight against SeeD during the battle of the Gardens, her power jumped into Rinoa on instinct. Along with her power, came Ultimecia (more about that later).
Dr. Odine observed Rinoa while she was comatose before she went to the lunar base. Odine probably figured out that her stasis was likely due to her body absorbing Edea's powers, and then transforming/acclimating to those powers. That's how Esthar knew she was a sorceress.
(END GAME SPOILER)
Edea's power, and by extension Rinoa's power... is actually Ultimecia's power. At the end of the game Ulti dies and passes her power on to Edea. Since it is Ulti's power, she can easily link with it and possess Edea and Rinoa through it, until Rinoa got strong enough to overpower Ulti's influence and thus made the power her own.
I remember this in the game though
the last part of the video is just... creepy
_........Fithos..... Lusec......Wecos.......Vinosec......._
This isn’t how zero gravity works
Yeah, I was confused at how they handled it in the game lmao
This isn't a secret scene I remember it was in the game
Only the Seifer part is the extra one.
why there is music in this scene? I don't remember any music playing back on ps1 game
It was in the game, it’s eyes on me. Rinoa’s mom’s song.
This scene hit me very hard when i first play it.
The Squall-Rinoa-Seifer thing is nothing. One point during development, Rinoa's actually Edea, who in turn is actually Squall's real mother.
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See THAT storyboard for the ending! The 'Mysterious Woman' (Edea, or Rinoa in the final version) and Squall're talking to each, then something came out after Squall made a Shooting Star wish, both became very happy and hugged each other just like Final Fantasy VIII's logo.
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So Squall met a woman/Rinoa, befriended her (I will not comment further),
then at near the game's end, she got lost. At the ending, a way much older woman/Edea tried to comfort his 'lost', suggesting to wish upon a star. Squall made a wish, two even.
1. He wants to find Rinoa again.
2. He wants to find his mother too.
Squall then commented that he's being greedy, while laughing at the thought of him being a bad child (Page 16, Frame 1). Edea/Rinoa then replied by saying he's always a good boy.
Squall looked at her, then quickly finds out that Edea's actually Rinoa, much more, she's actually his mother! He then grabs her (Page 16 Frame 2).
Squall and Rinoa/Edea/Julia/Raine/Mother felt ackward at first (P16, F3), then decided to hug anyway (P16, F4).
Page 16, Frame 5 supposed to turn into a logo. But then they added an extra scene of Balamb returning back to Earth from the Moon (the Moon is off-limits in the final version).
If you can see it, page 14~17 had NO penciled page numbers.
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Page 13's Rinoa and Page 14's 'Rinoa're different enough. 14's Rinoa looks like a woman in her early or mid 30s. The art styles're also different.
Compare also Page 5's Edea to Page 14's 'Rinoa'.
You can also see that Irvine proposed to Edea (Cid's gone at P5, F5) while Quistis made a move on Cid (Page 4). Unlike in the final version, where Edea's already married to Cid.
This Time Travel story is roughly the same plot from Dragon Knight IV. Older Takeru who lost his entire team, travelled back in time to guide his youngself and the rest of the team for a better fuure.
i don't follow. it looks like a storyboard for the ending fmv. can you explain to me what you mean
It is a storyboard of the ending but the main post just recreated his/her terrible fanfic e_e.
Reminds me of the (player influenced) dialogue in Gongaga for Cloud and Aerith (FF7).
how you unlocked the extra... you use a program or modified the video?
I was like 9 when this game dropped my aunt had just got a mill of a lawsuit that happen on my 7 bday she took me shopping and i saw this game it was like 80$ that was alot of money back then she also got me mad clothes but i was happy just wit this game it opened up my mind at a real young age i wish they can remaster i feel attached to this game the songs every sound graphics wow makes me feel like a baby again 😿
Im from the future and i can tell you that your wish for remaster has been fullfilled
I remember this scene being amazing when I was a kid, especially when Eyes on Me started playing. Seeing it now...the dialogue definitely has not aged well, especially Squall’s. He’s annoyingly clueless.
@Dalfi91 ciao... la scena se ti interessa l'avevo montata anche in italiano qualche tempo fa... cerca nei video del mio canale. Tutte le scene tagliate che ho messo finora sono nei video titolati FINAL FANTASY VIII EXTRA
can I ask how did you managed to make this?
thanks!!!!
is this for real. so, this like a glitch? are you sure there really is a scene like this? seriously the ok, ok I believe you dialogue of squall is a bit off imo.
+Yuki Uesugi not sure how, it was in the game I played so it should be on the original disc of ff8, I've never not seen this.
So she was playing with both guys emotions? who are already rivals? Yeah that's a bit shitty.
7:50
I dont want the future.
I want the present to stand still.
I just want to stay here with you.
It s time compression? Rinoa=Ultimecia confirmed!
provpaw2 That would make a lot of girls Ultimecia.
Pretty different to what Ultimecia wants, lol.
Ultimecia wants eternal life. Pretty different than «I want to stay with you Squall»
What a theory🤣🤣🤣, If she Ultimecia than how can she live that long
Is sqall jealous of seifer?
Whatever
5:17 So Rinoa is still a virgin. Good!
nice and solid evidence there, tks mate, with this dialogue, all theories like rinoa got banged or have **x sth are totally wrong.
Completely wrong, and i'm free from the bitches nightmare
what a scene
>tfw no 3.14 gf sorceress to cuddle with
I will personally blame this Squall-Rinoa-Seifer due the Macross influence in this game. Rinoa's this game's Minmay, while Ragnarok's SDF-1 Macross & VF-1 Valkyrie.
See also Blue No. 6 ≈ Ragnarok ≈ Laguna 6 ≈ Ragunaroku ≈ Aoi no Rokugou ≈ 青の6号 ≈ Blue Submarine No.6 ≈ ラグナロク
Though Squall and Rinoa're based primary on Macross 7 Trash's Shiba and Enika (who're based on Hikaru and Minmay).
Then there's the Macross Plus - Pacific Rim thing: Isamu/Squall/Raleigh, Myung/Rinoa/Mako, and Guld/Seifer/Stacker.
Projects're actually unofficially co-developed by companies and organisations together. Even if they're unofficially related to each other, including so called 'rivals' and 'enemies'.
Example: Do you know SEGA, Microsoft, Sony, Apple, and Nintendo co-developed the Dreamcast, Gamecube, XBOX, and even PlayStation 2? Columbus/District of Columbia/DC's one of Apple's internal codenames. While Dolphin is the code name for Deep(er) Blue related project (aka Apple-IBM-Motorola's PowerPC).
See also stuff like Secret Space Program.
Even Final Fantasy VII including even further past ones (VI, V, IV,…) had Macross influences in them.
Starship Troopers' Rico → Macross' Hikaru → Final Fantasy VII's Cloud Strife.
1999's Final Fantasy VIII shared various materials with a cancelled 15th anniversary (1997) Macross project, codenamed Macross 15 aka Macross F (Hex F≈15), not to be confused with the later project 10 years later. Though recycling materials is 'The _Name_ of the Game'.
Will be waiting for FF=255…
Transformable Ragnarok after all got recycled into World of Final Fantasy's XG/Xenogears. Closer near to FF8's release, parts of Ragnarok got recycled into 2001's Gundam SeeD's Arch Angel.
Other RPGs and games related to the 1990s' 'Macross F' project: Beast Breeders, Bulk Slash (Baruku Surasshu, a variant of Barukirii/Valkyrie), Dragoon/竜機伝承 2 (RPG), Panzer Dragoon 2, Skies of Arcadia / Eternal Arcadia, Tales of Eternia, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Final Fantasy VII ~ IX, Grandia (Macro≈Big≈Grand≈Max≈Final. See also Big Order) & Rockman DASH / Megaman Legends & Sonic Adventure & Shenmue (from first & 2), Phantasy Star Online, Burning Rangers, and so on…
By the time of Ys: The Ark of Napishtim, they already moved into Zero. Compare the siblings of Beast Breeders, Dragoon 2, Di Gi Charat, Zero, Ark, 7th Dragon, and Frozen. Yes, that Frozen… 'Her' codename is that city in Alaska.
Then there's Sonic the Hedgehog's _F_lame of Disaster.
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Have I mentioned that SEGA or 'SEGA' co-designed the Macross 7's logo? Final Fantasy VII's original Macross 'cousin'.
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Its logo variant can be seen in the Mega LD's logo. Mega LD (MLD) is an extension of the Mega CD (MCD) project, it itself an extension of Mega Drive (MD). Mega Drive's named after both Broadway and Megaroad-01 (MR-01).
Omgggg so cute!!! She sat on him :3
I'm not gonna frustrate everyone, But only to tell the truth, It seems that Rinoa is not a virgin girl any more…… 🙄
😂😂
No he's not
@TheFF8fan ci darò sicuramente un'occhiata ;)
I ship Squall x Derpina (Rinoa)
seems fake...
make a video where you show the program and the file of the game.
it's real I got this exact video in game it has to do with dialogue options once you encounter Rinoa
This game is so good it makes my heart hurt....and as a straight grown man thats really gay to say....
fucking homophob
begone!
curioso sto fatto O.o
Having been in his exact position before...only having taken a Rinoa away from a Seifer as all real men inevitably do: maybe multiple times at that: this was also Squall realizing: "Either way: this pussy is totally mine now."
But also this makes it seem to suggest She DID sleep with him: as she said she had been desperate after her mom died and dad ignored her. Hence: my guess is this would confirm Seifer was a fling for attention.
Squall was the obsession she was waiting for. Aka: context doesn't change: except we confirm Seifer got some Attention Sex. Minus this isn't just bad japanese translation that is lol.
This kinda backs the squall is dead theory
Lo...just no.
There's an underlying pagan-satanic sympathy here in making the sorceress/witch the object of pity for being an, as is portrayed, innocent victim of unjust persecution.
Underheaven8 Please tell me how you got that information!!! Or, at least, what book are you referring to? It sounds interesting :)
It's merely my personal conclusion. I completed the game a few times back in the days. Thinking back now just drew my attention to this pattern.
You know just, back in the pre modern days or even just by default a common godly person would abhor anything and anyone involved with sorcery/magic/witchcraft.
But here for instance, the witch (Rinoa) is portrayed as an innocent object of persecution in which the main protagonist (Squall) is there to protect her no matter what.
And this is essentially what the story revolves around. The innocent witch and her loyal knight that is there to love and protect her.
It's very typically satanic in its subversion.
But this pattern is very commonly observable in mainstream entertainment once you get the hang of how it all operates.
The everyday atheist or satanist wouldn't really notice or care. But people devoted to God would certainly get what's up and going on with all this.
FF8 had the most unlikeable characters in the series.
u crazy