This video got me emotional, I don't even skate, but I do wana make some. Thanks for this deep dive into the history and future of a board on wheels. God bless! 😊🙏🏻❤
Man that Monty Nolder deck he held up triggered some memories, my first deck was a Monty Nolder pro model with a sick totem pole graphic, must have been in '89 or '90, as far as I remember it had better pop than most of my friends decks, may have been a Paul Schmitt deck.
I've been riding the Landyachtz dinghy blunt recently and I believe its a beautiful compromise between the 70's-2000's can bomb hills, slide, cruise, hit the park and anything else you could think of
I had tensors for my first setup then used royals. Next set of trucks I got was indy 159s and they grind the best so far but as a result of being able to grind crust they get down to the axle pretty fast here in scotland. Got ace af1 66s now and I think they work just aswell as indys but I'm gonna go for thunders next because you very know if you dont try. I might try every truck just to go back to indys.
Independents were are a Bennett base plate & kingpin geometry with a pyramid shaped Tracker hanger, add Powell Hardcore bushings and a GrindKing inverted/recessed heat tempered (virtually unbreakable) Allen head king pin and one has the perfect all round skateboarding truck ever assembled. And riding independent trucks since they came out 1978-79 still have my first pair I’ve been riding Indy169’s and 159s set up like that since 1989 when GrindKing king pins came out.
i changed from indys to trackers back to indys .thunders then back. i mentioned san diegos and they were good but they dont make them any more . now its indys or nothing. i will try that guys trucks if they come out though but until that day its indys no doubt even if they are made in china now still the best
“If good design tells the truth, a healthy balanced interaction between the user and designer, then bad design tells a lie, a lie usually directly related to either poor and inadequate vision or the getting of or abuse of power.” Robert Grodin Truth And Design
back in the 90s there was a truck called san diegos and they were different. they were really good and that was during my peak years. i guess they didnt catch on. i still skate at 49 but nothing like i used to but i always wanted something different then all my friends had. sometimes it would be shitty (skull skates hacket) and sometimes it was really good like the san diego trucks. it seemed like i quit and everyone wanted exactly the same thing only different widths and i think that has everything to do with the stagnation. i bought a current popsickle deck and i have it up for sale because i still dont like them. i still skate risers and big wheels.
Those trucks wont matter because most skaters like grooves in the trucks, and if the trucks have holes, then you cant obtain grooves. Second thought Lighter isnt better always, Heavier trucks help in the same way, As light trucks.
@@switchback3638 i like to think i have a good mind for engineering and understanding most forms of engineering but I cant see someone wasting 1000 a truck for something made out of a 3D printer.
You forget that it only matters going back into A.I and adding in new requirements and getting back a design that solves that groove issue ....It will throw out a design that perfect for locking in if that is putting into A.I .... what will happen at some point he will some radical variations of truck designs and have pro skaters bust them in for a week and take all that feedback and then feed it back into the A.I to have truck that ticks the boxes as better tuck ....not just lighter but one that has the perfect balance as in the weight is uninformed or places in positions that makes it better ..... A.I what it doing in engineering is incredible i think big step going to come from turning and that has yet to be explored to the fullest ..way bushing interact with trucks and what A.I could do for creating trucks that light loose and tight when you want it to be by repsonding to speed etc
@@TRAVIESO_NA ive had 2 pairs of tensor mags and first pair hanger pivot point snapped on a nollie back 180 on flat. and ive never snapped trucks or decks in my life and im light as hell. i bought my second pair and tbh i havent skated them much but if this happens again ill deffo say dont get mag lights.
that wasnt a diss it was a point that must have been lost on you (thats also not a diss) he simply meant that he wasnt prone to look at things the same way someone who skates does
What they really need is a board that can have bigger wheels and no wheel bite but be closer to the ground. DEEP wheel cut outs w/o losing strength is core. We already have magnesium trucks and light trucks that grind better than titanium. Rodney Mullen is the real master he is just low key.
@@insanogeddon ah, okay then. Dropped longboards were my gateway into skateboarding, and they’re really fun to push over long distances. But, yeah, once I caught the skate bug, I ended up preferring more typical skateboards. :)
@@swr410 Drop downs are weirdly dangerous you start to THINK you can roll over anything you can't obviously see and the drop locks/catches your front foot. They are good on groomed surfaces to get people into it but I find an old school banana board with ~66mm wheels, wedges, and cut outs is best for newbies they are just too cheap to be promoted much.. thin enough to thread obstacles, big wheels, better turning, and easier to get a foot off to take some of the fall.
@@insanogeddon you have some good points, but also, when i was getting into it a couple years ago, the lower platform was way easier to balance on, learn to footbrake on, and push. My preference for a cruiser is now an old school deck with turny trucks and big wheels, but even after a couple years of near daily skating, I find that fairly tiring to push for more than a few miles. It’s like doing constant squats with the front leg. I kind of think of my drop deck like a bicycle. It’s fun if I intend to push across town, but it’s not enough fun to be a daily activity, IMO.
Weird that no one mentioned that Rodney Mullen invented the popsicle shape and that freestyle skateboarding was real foundation for equal widght of the board and the trucks. Being the most popular shape for about 30 years I thought that these deserved to be mentioned.
I kindof agree,, but.. early downhillers did. I'm riding my first set, after more than 35 years . love them, on a Scram 10.25. rad. not a trick board for me ,, but makes me feel like I'm 8 riding a big fish powell or s.c. deck cheers
I like the creative idea, but for the foreseeable future, there are no innovations needed for the skateboard. The trucks seem like just another skateboard gimmick, which there have been MANY. Make your board lighter, stronger, faster, light up, carbon fiber, magnesium etc etc etc. Time and time again these products fail. The reason being that the current technology we have for a skateboard is perfect, it does not need to be improved. I hope this guy didnt sink too much money into those trucks, aside from saying one set is 1300 fucking dollars lol. Even if theyre made of titanium eventually youll snap into one of those holes and then the trucks are useless. "If it aint broke dont fix it"
That’s the most stagnant way of thinking possible and the complete opposite of what this video is about. They literally talked about the innovation of skateboarding and how it should continue to progress for 40 minutes and you still didn’t get the point?😂
@@solless2504 and yet for the last 30 years the skateboard has barely progressed. Why do you think that is? Because there is no prgression left. The current skateboard is flawless and needs no major redesign. I feel like youre probably the person that created these trucks considering there is ZERO interest in this. Just another gimmick product that someone is wasting time and money on
@@solless2504 @solless im not saying people shouldnt try to progress things. Im just saying that currently, there is nothing to change about a skateboard. Literally nothing. It looks like this guys been talking about these trucks for years. If anyone wanted them a bigger distribution company would already be working with him, and they would be available. The trucks we have are relatively inexpensive, last for a very long time and perform perfectly. Why would anyone be interested in 1300 dollar trucks lmao
@@1stIParkMyCar that’s exactly what they said when they were riding fucking boards with roller skate wheels “this shits perfect don’t change it”. “No progression left” is the fucking stupidest thing you could say with anything😂 if everyone thought like you we’d still be in the fucking Stone Age. The father of modern skateboards is clearly interested in truck innovation and literally said he’s going to keep innovating the skateboard. You’re a plonker😂
@@1stIParkMyCar you clearly don’t understand how production works or understand English for that matter cause he quite clearly explained how the cost would come down when they’re being mass produced and not a fucking prototype.
This is SO AWESOME. What a great telling of skateboarding history by the master himself, Paul Schmitt!
Paul Schmitt is a national treasure who must be protected at all costs. 🙌
This video got me emotional, I don't even skate, but I do wana make some. Thanks for this deep dive into the history and future of a board on wheels. God bless! 😊🙏🏻❤
Man that Monty Nolder deck he held up triggered some memories, my first deck was a Monty Nolder pro model with a sick totem pole graphic, must have been in '89 or '90, as far as I remember it had better pop than most of my friends decks, may have been a Paul Schmitt deck.
Yeah, indeed.....
It was from the nhs factory and was a model from Hosoi Skateboards which was a branch or division of Santa Cruz Skateboads
I've been riding the Landyachtz dinghy blunt recently and I believe its a beautiful compromise between the 70's-2000's
can bomb hills, slide, cruise, hit the park and anything else you could think of
Not gonna lie, kind of got bummed when Mike Vallely’s “animal farm” wasn’t talked about as a piece of history
It's a rip off of the double vision. Rocco bought the deck press from a Vision employee.
That was groundbreaking innovation that sent the popsicle South....
Same as Rodney own design
Trust me:
Straight skip to 7:33
Professor Schmitt starts sharing knowledge, and you jump the extremely boring intro...
Some heros don't wear capes 🔥🔥
would really love to see some skate companies release replicas of the 50s and 60s boards
Indy already designed basically the perfect hollow truck. The perfect truck for what skaters want anyway.
I had tensors for my first setup then used royals. Next set of trucks I got was indy 159s and they grind the best so far but as a result of being able to grind crust they get down to the axle pretty fast here in scotland. Got ace af1 66s now and I think they work just aswell as indys but I'm gonna go for thunders next because you very know if you dont try. I might try every truck just to go back to indys.
Independents were are a Bennett base plate & kingpin geometry with a pyramid shaped Tracker hanger, add Powell Hardcore bushings and a GrindKing inverted/recessed heat tempered (virtually unbreakable) Allen head king pin and one has the perfect all round skateboarding truck ever assembled. And riding independent trucks since they came out 1978-79 still have my first pair I’ve been riding Indy169’s and 159s set up like that since 1989 when GrindKing king pins came out.
@@paulrevere2928 they started making the grindking kingpins recently again. I’m gonna get a set for all of my trucks
Ace is better. INDY is bud light.
i changed from indys to trackers back to indys .thunders then back. i mentioned san diegos and they were good but they dont make them any more . now its indys or nothing. i will try that guys trucks if they come out though but until that day its indys no doubt even if they are made in china now still the best
Awesome ❤️🔥
The Professor is awesome!
And maybe there's a "professor truck" in the making here?
yep.I am old enough to remember crate bite.
“If good design tells the truth, a healthy balanced interaction between the user and designer, then bad design tells a lie, a lie usually directly related to either poor and inadequate vision or the getting of or abuse of power.” Robert Grodin Truth And Design
well dont forget the part where it cant be so expensive that nobody can buy them. that leaves who knows how much stuff out of getting to the market
what about the egg/football shaped decks? early world industries/blind, etc. Those were the precursor to the actual popsicle shape
Prof. Schmitt is the shit!So is Ryan Clements,Cookiedough and Fuensta
back in the 90s there was a truck called san diegos and they were different. they were really good and that was during my peak years. i guess they didnt catch on. i still skate at 49 but nothing like i used to but i always wanted something different then all my friends had. sometimes it would be shitty (skull skates hacket) and sometimes it was really good like the san diego trucks. it seemed like i quit and everyone wanted exactly the same thing only different widths and i think that has everything to do with the stagnation. i bought a current popsickle deck and i have it up for sale because i still dont like them. i still skate risers and big wheels.
Those trucks wont matter because most skaters like grooves in the trucks, and if the trucks have holes, then you cant obtain grooves.
Second thought
Lighter isnt better always,
Heavier trucks help in the same way,
As light trucks.
The other thing is, Indy and thunder both have Titanium trucks.
Tensor has Magnesium trucks and they are lighter than titanium
exactly, Im also a computational designer myself and that isnt how I would go about making a better designed skateboard truck
@@switchback3638 i like to think i have a good mind for engineering and understanding most forms of engineering but I cant see someone wasting 1000 a truck for something made out of a 3D printer.
You forget that it only matters going back into A.I and adding in new requirements and getting back a design that solves that groove issue ....It will throw out a design that perfect for locking in if that is putting into A.I ....
what will happen at some point he will some radical variations of truck designs and have pro skaters bust them in for a week and take all that feedback and then feed it back into the A.I to have truck that ticks the boxes as better tuck ....not just lighter but one that has the perfect balance as in the weight is uninformed or places in positions that makes it better .....
A.I what it doing in engineering is incredible
i think big step going to come from turning and that has yet to be explored to the fullest ..way bushing interact with trucks and what A.I could do for creating trucks that light loose and tight when you want it to be by repsonding to speed etc
@@TRAVIESO_NA ive had 2 pairs of tensor mags and first pair hanger pivot point snapped on a nollie back 180 on flat. and ive never snapped trucks or decks in my life and im light as hell. i bought my second pair and tbh i havent skated them much but if this happens again ill deffo say dont get mag lights.
Rodney M designed his own somewhere near "Team A' timeline
Aaron wheels Just casually rolling by In the background.
God damn I love skateboarding. So much❤
Take drink everytime he says "you know" or "right"
Professor will not allow anyone else to speak.😂He cannot control him self😂
Poor guy no ones gonna buy those trucks. I love Schmitts little diss of like “he’s not hindered by experience”. Lmao.
that wasnt a diss it was a point that must have been lost on you (thats also not a diss) he simply meant that he wasnt prone to look at things the same way someone who skates does
@@chrhadden in other words op was correct…he dismissed his product
@@Possiblechange you could be right. sometimes i read things backwards in my mind
That 3d printed shit like your going to grind through that and real quick
Pauls decks rock and so do Independents... nuff said
Indy's overturn and are the only truck I've seen snap
What they really need is a board that can have bigger wheels and no wheel bite but be closer to the ground.
DEEP wheel cut outs w/o losing strength is core.
We already have magnesium trucks and light trucks that grind better than titanium. Rodney Mullen is the real master he is just low key.
Sounds like you’re looking for a double-drop longboard
@@swr410 I was being facetious beside dropped boards are like condoms they take away feeling and control ; p
@@insanogeddon ah, okay then. Dropped longboards were my gateway into skateboarding, and they’re really fun to push over long distances. But, yeah, once I caught the skate bug, I ended up preferring more typical skateboards. :)
@@swr410 Drop downs are weirdly dangerous you start to THINK you can roll over anything you can't obviously see and the drop locks/catches your front foot. They are good on groomed surfaces to get people into it but I find an old school banana board with ~66mm wheels, wedges, and cut outs is best for newbies they are just too cheap to be promoted much.. thin enough to thread obstacles, big wheels, better turning, and easier to get a foot off to take some of the fall.
@@insanogeddon you have some good points, but also, when i was getting into it a couple years ago, the lower platform was way easier to balance on, learn to footbrake on, and push. My preference for a cruiser is now an old school deck with turny trucks and big wheels, but even after a couple years of near daily skating, I find that fairly tiring to push for more than a few miles. It’s like doing constant squats with the front leg. I kind of think of my drop deck like a bicycle. It’s fun if I intend to push across town, but it’s not enough fun to be a daily activity, IMO.
The future is the hoverboard
Weird that no one mentioned that Rodney Mullen invented the popsicle shape and that freestyle skateboarding was real foundation for equal widght of the board and the trucks. Being the most popular shape for about 30 years I thought that these deserved to be mentioned.
you are wrong he didnt invent the freestyle board from the 80s. thats all a popsickle deck is but bigger
Andy Anderson just made the next shape
Pretty sure mike v started the symmetrical noses and popsicle shape.
We don't need lighter trucks. We need trucks that are consistent day to day.
is Professor Schmitt missing a tooth?
Probably from talking constantly 😂He refuses to allow other guy to finish his presentation.
Skating was invented by scooter kids lol 🤣!!!!
Staaaap shhhh
The key words here are "I used to skate"
Whats up with the bearded dork ruins the back ground
I think he drives trucks or something
Nobody ever rode 215 ever !! 169 !!! Do not rewrite history ! I was there !! Really there !! No 215 s
I kindof agree,, but.. early downhillers did. I'm riding my first set, after more than 35 years . love them, on a Scram 10.25. rad. not a trick board for me ,, but makes me feel like I'm 8 riding a big fish powell or s.c. deck cheers
I like the creative idea, but for the foreseeable future, there are no innovations needed for the skateboard. The trucks seem like just another skateboard gimmick, which there have been MANY. Make your board lighter, stronger, faster, light up, carbon fiber, magnesium etc etc etc. Time and time again these products fail. The reason being that the current technology we have for a skateboard is perfect, it does not need to be improved. I hope this guy didnt sink too much money into those trucks, aside from saying one set is 1300 fucking dollars lol. Even if theyre made of titanium eventually youll snap into one of those holes and then the trucks are useless. "If it aint broke dont fix it"
That’s the most stagnant way of thinking possible and the complete opposite of what this video is about. They literally talked about the innovation of skateboarding and how it should continue to progress for 40 minutes and you still didn’t get the point?😂
@@solless2504 and yet for the last 30 years the skateboard has barely progressed. Why do you think that is? Because there is no prgression left. The current skateboard is flawless and needs no major redesign. I feel like youre probably the person that created these trucks considering there is ZERO interest in this. Just another gimmick product that someone is wasting time and money on
@@solless2504 @solless im not saying people shouldnt try to progress things. Im just saying that currently, there is nothing to change about a skateboard. Literally nothing. It looks like this guys been talking about these trucks for years. If anyone wanted them a bigger distribution company would already be working with him, and they would be available. The trucks we have are relatively inexpensive, last for a very long time and perform perfectly. Why would anyone be interested in 1300 dollar trucks lmao
@@1stIParkMyCar that’s exactly what they said when they were riding fucking boards with roller skate wheels “this shits perfect don’t change it”. “No progression left” is the fucking stupidest thing you could say with anything😂 if everyone thought like you we’d still be in the fucking Stone Age. The father of modern skateboards is clearly interested in truck innovation and literally said he’s going to keep innovating the skateboard. You’re a plonker😂
@@1stIParkMyCar you clearly don’t understand how production works or understand English for that matter cause he quite clearly explained how the cost would come down when they’re being mass produced and not a fucking prototype.