Why I bought a Surface Pro 4 in 2020 (Revisited)
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- 6 months ago, I set out to find the ultimate premium college laptop, for less than the price of my 13 inch MacBook pro. Here’s why I bought a used Microsoft Surface Pro 4 as my daily college laptop.
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Intro: 00:00
Basics: 00:40
My Surface Pro: 01:50
Screen and Portability: 03:22
I/O Ports: 04:17
Battery Life: 04:51
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Should you Buy? 09:10
Special Announcement: 09:58
Outro: 10:48
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Don’t mind me, just using this video to justify my purchase to myself
How is it now?
Purchase = Justified.
literally same- and it was worth it like bruh i got a free stylus and a free keyboard? that's an amazing deal also the keys sound amazing! also am i the only one who got the keyboard and pen for free?
I got my keyboard free as well! I loved my surface. You definitely made a great call grabbing one.
I recently sold my Surface Pro 4 to a family member who needed a budget windows laptop super quick, so I’m using something else now(and it’s still working great for them). But not a week goes by where I don’t miss it a bit.
My old high school had given us all Surface Pro 5's to use for the school year, but at the end of the year they let all us seniors purchase the tablet, pen and keyboard for only $100. Sweet deal.
That’s such an awesome deal. Congrats on the steal!
Where do I need to go to school now?
@@payme4243 lmao
wow so lucky!
Name of school?
I've had the Surface Pro 4 since 2017 and still using it. And still working fine.
I’ve found that as long as you take care of your stuff it tends to lay very well. Especially tech these days. Processors age soooo much better than they used to.
Me 2!
My battery won't last more then 2 yours now
Same!
Is it still worth buying now? Got a deal for 260€
I have an Surface Pro 4 i5 8/256 and its holding up, thanks to this video it makes me feel better about starting the new year with it, Thank you for your advice and knowledge
Ty for the vid my man this was exactly what I needed!
No problem! Glad I could help!
The video edits in this are on point. Why doesn't this page have more subscribers?
I got his laptop yesterday and I’m loving it so far. Great review
Awesome! Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Again ! Love your next level editing and great content 👍🏾 🇱🇰
Thank you so much! Been trying to do better so I really appreciate your support👍
Also I subscribed because out of all the videos I watched for help on what to buy for school this was the perfect one thanks again 🤙🏾🤙🏾
I've been using a hand-me-down, it's still a great tablet/computer and it's incredibly portable. My only problem is the battery life, but even then I usually have it plugged in.
Great information thank you!
Great vid brotha!
excellent review, thank you, I just picked one up for light chrome work 🤙
Loved it! Want to be as good as you are someday with these videos haha. Keep it up!
Thank you so much. Comments like this are very humbling as it was not long ago all of this was very new to me as well. Glad you enjoyed it and I greatly appreciate your compliment!
How do you only have 4k subscribers? Your quality and information given in your videos are amazing! You deserve to be in the millions.
THANK YOU FOR THIS SIR!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it, Hope it was helpful!
Funny you should mention the Pro 7, I've literally just bought a used one off eBay for the price you paid for your 4 three years ago, amazing how quickly these things depreciate in value, much wiser to buy them used it seems!
Nice one! I've got one since 2016. Still great! My battery is according to the report still 91%. Which is amazing! I've used it a lot, I still love the writing and touch capabilities of it. If the battery ever decides to die, I'll replace it anyway!
This help me a lot my son just gave me his surface pro 4 with pen and case and some extras. Love it
Great video quality my guy, way to hustle while in school.
There's one problem : you deserve more subscribers
I agree!!!!!
Found one on offerup for$275 and am here to see if it's usable in 2020. Thank you so much dude! Also thanks for putting us on to the baggage thing aswell.
No problem! Hope all goes well for you!
dude great video!
Honest review. Thank you. I will be getting one next week, i7, 16 gigs, 500 ssd used but 👍
Welp I saved a lot of money and headache worried about flickergate but ima look into the warranty, thanks and don’t stop doing video reviews
I was today years old when I found the Microsoft Surface Pro 4 I bought on Ebay had a MicroSD card slot. 🤯
Hey man,
Like your editing style and you're right checking charge cycles. The SP4 is a great form factor and is so versatile, I have fallen in love with it too.
A warrantee for flickergate is a must, as you say. I have been through 2 faulty SP4s, and the warrantee saved me. But now that warrantee is coming to an end, I used store credit and some extra cash to get a SP 2017. I wouldn't recommend an SP4 to anyone, but I am glad that you have had a good experience 😊
I have Surface Pro 4 since december 2019. I overpayed a little, because i payed 600$ but it came with extended 1 year warranty when i bought it. I love this device. When it comes to portability and nice screen Pro 4 beats everything. I have an i5 model with 8 GB of ram and 256 GB of storage. I definitely recommend it to everyone who looks for a nice and portable tablet/laptop. ;)
Thank you for this video I got mine from my sister she barely used it and I was thinking should I buy a new laptop, or should I just buy the keyboard and the pen. I took my decision after this video 😻
U must have subscribers in millions according to your efforts..best of luck. Bruh❤️
Same Story here, I sold my MacBook Pro M1 three weeks ago so I could travel from Germany to the US and have my music production and run myndsily business on a single device. I love it I am watching UA-cam on the Surface Pro 5 now and it will replace the iPad too!
Best decision ever. I am now a huge Microsoft fan. This Tablet is insane! Mine is i5 8GB RAM and functiins better than the M1 Pro..
Great video btw 👌
How about battery for video playing? I will often use it do watch downloaded video lessons for uni and am wondering how many hours it would last me watching them and taking some notes.
Great review. I have a question; if I get one that is core i7 with 8GB RAM, and 256 GB storage will that be good working with Data analysis applications such as Power Bi & Tableau?
When I'm using my surface pro 4 which I got in 2016 under the AC, the flickering problem doesn't happen, but when using it at normal room temperature the problem happens after 2 hours (and maybe faster if using it for editing or 3d modeling)
I still use mine for recording audio, while recording the HD video using the front facing camera. All of my videos were done this way, sometimes using a Sony HD camera and micro SD. The SP4 has better camera quality so it gets more use. The audio comes in on two USB-A ports with RME Fireface audio interfaces. An external Samsung SSD handles most of the softsynths. There’s a MIDI interface for Fishman Tripleplay guitar synth, and Premiere Pro renders most of the video. Recently I’ve moved to Resolve and that has made me want a new SP8. Otherwise the SP4 jams! I7 8 256.
Enjoyed your video. Recently got a 2017 surface pro, loving it, but can't figure out how to switch camera from front to rear camera. Can you or any one splain how to do that. I'm desperate to find that out.
Make a video on Unclaimed Baggage please!!!
Yes 🖕🏻
I purchased a surface pro 4 i7 16gb 1tb. I love it!!
Congrats! Glad you like it!
I did get the pro 3 as an i7. Is there much of a difference?
still using my SP4 in 2022, still going strong as a TV computer
Sounds like a great setup! I have a feeling the SP4 will continue to age well as a value Ultraportable
hi, may i know how to those battery cycle count on surface? thanks
Needed temporary access to a portable device to run an .exe file to modify my car.
I bought this for £60 from eBay - i5.
Absolute bargain.
Now lives on the back seat for films on long trips.
This video was helpful, since I was not planning to spend 1.6k on the latest Microsoft Surface 7.
Thanks a lot!
Why my surface pro 4 screen always flickering
Currently thinking about retiring my launch SP4 (battery is going, which I'll eventually replace) with either a Book 3 (the HEFT), or another SP7. I did purchase the Alcantera keypad, which can still be used with the future models!
I'm thinking about getting one of these for digital photo editing, how is the sRGB on this? Does it provide good strong and accurate colors from the RAW camera files?
Can use this as an external screen for Windows PC?
Can I do react programming on surface pro 4 . i5 6th generation, 4 gb ram .?
Using the Surface Pro 4 to watch this video :) Just some light modifications to the power management to get it working with the ifixit battery. Worth the 3 hours of work on it!
Can you convert writing to text with the pro 4?
Thank you.
Can I run power Bi and tableu on this laptop? I am getting started in data analytics and need an affordable laptop.
Still totin' one in 2021 that's holding up well :)
Is it not slowing down even design - using Adobe suite?
Where can I find the battery/charging count?
Good video, what is the performance of its video recording like?? Cheers 🇬🇧👍
I can buy a 2nd hand one with the pen and keyboard for 260€ should i do it? And do you ever have problems with flickergate and the battery bulging?
Are u using that to edit this and other videos still?
I bought one when it was like a year old just b4 SP5 came out. (Always feel like I messed up. Shoulda got the IPad Pro as at the time they were the same price)
I honestly never use it. Was thinking about selling or trading. Where do I find that battery cycles info? Guess I could try googling it.
Sounds like I should try selling it to college kids or is the 2 year difference now to far? It is pretty old now.
how did you check the battery cycle?
I bought a i7 model with 8GB of ram and a 512 Samsung ssd. It has only 230 cycles, it’s amazing.
I bought a surface pro 4 with 256 gb 8gb ram & imtel core i5 for my son whos 10 as a chriatmas gift this year. Hes really into drawing so i figured it would be ok enough for him to draw on and play around with. Did i totally waste my money ?
Good video and good buy, its kinda funny because i have the exact same scratch on the back of my surface pro 3
The scratch of champions👌
Thought I'd have a look around for another Windows device, after purchasing a Dell Inspiron 3542 laptop (Intel Core i7, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD) back in 2014. It had Windows 8.1, but upgraded to Windows 10 Pro, and still works very well. At the time I paid about A$1,000.00 for it new (looking mainly at 'specs per buck'). After purchasing a Samsung Tab 2 10.1 (3G cellular) and its internal memory (solid state) of 16GB, thought I'd find something SSD for the Windows OS.
Just last month, I went to an auction which had several of the Surface Pro 4, with most carrying your recommended specs of 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM, Intel Core i5. The type cover was included and the purchase at the hammer was A$380.00, with a buyers' premium of 15% bringing it to A$427.00. I had not yet watched your presentation, but I see someone was quite happy with their purchase all of 7 months ago.. Great value in 2021 as well..
Soon I’ll get to look at a Surface Pro 4 from a coworker that they barely used (Apple people). They said they were talked up a processor, but not what processor they ended up getting. Would even an i5 be worth picking up?
Just picked up a i5 / 8GB / 256GB model on eBay for $80 . The Gen3x2 m.2 hurts, but it handles all my daily work tasks and video playback with no issues. Had to score a pen ($30) and charger ($26) separately and I still haven't decided on a Type cover but so far I am more than happy with this unit in 2022.
Which one is better? Surface pro 4 (i7) or thinkpad x1 tablet (gen2) i7?
Hi everyone. I was wondering if someone could please help me solve the flickering screen of my surface Pro 4, I7 16G RAM computer. Lately, my computer screen starts flickering within 10 min of start. Recently, I deleted the Intel (R) Iris (R) Graphics ( under the Display adapters) and upgraded as suggested under MS problem solving tools but did not resolve the problem. I will highly appreciate your inputs/suggestions to resolve my compter flickering screen. Thank you very much
Bought a used SP5 that had a faint crack in the screen. Fantastic device and wayyyyy better than budget laptops at it's price point.
I just purchased a used one and the screen is flickering 😔
What brightness you find nice?
Can Surface Pro 4 can really replace the works of a laptop for my office task like word file, excel, power point etc.., Zoom and teams meeting, presentation and sometimes video editing? Thank you in advance.
I managed to pick one up the i5 8gb 128gb ssd model. The charge cycle is 722 tho, should I get something else, I just need something for school.
I bought the SP4 i5/8/256 version on launch day. I hated it from day one and barely used it. I hate that I cant have it in my lap and work. I tried the Brydge keyboard and cracked the display. So after replacing that, I barely touched it until two weeks ago when I installed all my vehicle diagnostic software on it and started using it as a workshop tablet.
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lol, i have the m3 config. I got it when i was 8 and it still holds up 5 years later. It is amazing. It can play roblox at low graphical settings, and it gets the job done. I used to always take pictures with it as well.
The surface pro 4 legit starts screen flickering whenever I play roblox to 3 hours or more depending on how long I have left it untouched overnight please help I did virus scans turning off windows error messages deleting software that seems sus and even uninstalling and reinstalling the display driver. I think it’s an overheating issue, but pls help
Is 200 cycle counts good? The full charge capacity it 44mWh vs the 45mWh design capacity. I think that's an insane deal
They are selling me a new one version 5, adding as a bonus a tempered glass and a UVG case for 600 bucks, no keyboard or pen. After seeing this vid and reviewing the differences between versions 4 and 5 I think I am going to pass on that offer, should I?
Do you still have the unit, sir?
I have a question... So, I've got surface pro 4 (8gb ram and 256gb of ssd) with keyboard but without the pen for 420$ (it's used model) and the screen is glitching, idk why, and i bought it just for drawing, and then I've got this idea: should I buy new samsung tab s6 lite for 350$ or should I buy a surface pen for 120$, again, I BOUGHT THIS JUST FOR DRAWING, sometimes i go in like instagram or discord, but that's it. I can't sleep well knowing that i don't have s single working samsung product in my house, i just love samsung that's why I would switch
You def deserve more subs
Ancora tra i migliori 😊
I also bought SP4 2020. There are many problems with SP4. One of them has a terrible flicker problem.
So I replaced the screen. The thought of buying the sp4 was because I was able to replace the SSD. For reference, I bought a 1TB SSD, but in the end, I only changed the screen without replacing the SSD.
I never had to use 1TB in SP4.
Another problem is noise. The fan starts making noise just by opening and using the Chrome browser.
Eventually, I couldn't stand this and bought the sp6 again this year.
Fanless is one of the good reasons to consider. In this case, you need to buy SP5 or SP6.
I had the flicker gate...MSFT replaced it with a refurbished unit even though I was 2 years out of the warranty period. Replaced in Sep-2019. I bought mine in Dec 2016
Hey, Thank you for this! Is it good for adobe lightroom?
It’s great! I actually used it quite frequently for Lr Classic👌
Very useful, thank you! I saw one refurbished by a third-party seller, maxed out (i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD) for a bit over USD$800... which is a bit much considering how you said "don't pay more than $500 for it". Should I consider another option? I need something decently powerful and light.
That 1TB SSD is definitely nice! The i7 models tend to be a bit better taken care of as well. Although if you want to prioritize the i7 and 16GB of ram for a better price, just find one with lower storage like mine, you can always just add more with a microSD later like I did.
I wouldn't see anything wrong with using a SP4 in 2020 as I wouldn't see a big deal using the SP3 in 2020. We get so carried away about what are needs should be and forget we're basically satisfying our lust instead. Yes, I did get a SB2 and love it to death even after over 2 years of use. I still have my SP3 (sold the SP4) and the SP3 is still a darn good product even today! By the way...the SB2 was definitely a lust buy! :D
Pienamente d’accordo. Io ho pensionato un portatile dopo 20 anni😊
I know this video is 1 year old at this point but i still wanted your opinion.Surface devices in my area are super rare but i found a surface pro 4 i7 8gb ram and 256gb storage for ~350$.Should i buy it?
EDIT:I forgot to say that it has the cover and pen
Thank you for this review! Today I just bought one for 15,300 PHP (304 USD) including shipping fee. Although I think I got a longer battery cycle since the previous owner told me that the battery life is 2-4 hours depending on usage. Is it worth it to buy a new battery that costs 40$ online and replace it?
Kumusta naman po ngayon performance nya? Hehe. Thanks
my sp4 is out of warranty and have flicker issues
Bro how to check the battery count and other things coz im also buying it
Open up command prompt, and type /batteryreport
I bought a sp4 last year and it cost me around 550 usd including pen, typecover and case. I got the i5 with 256gb storage and 8g of ram. It was almost brand new, having been used once only. Lately i've been having the screen flicker problem and I really think it is common to all sp4 but the intensity varies from devices to devices and you also won't notice it unless you use the device for hours in a row. Mine only starts to flicker after an extended period of usage without long breaks (around 7 hours) was it still worth it? Absolutely because apart from that this hybrid is an amazing machine and performs really well just be aware that risks are high and if you plan on using your device non stop for a long time you might see some issues. That is why i would recommend to go for sp5 instead to still get a good price and without worrying about that problem that can occure anytime
thank you for your advice!
I am disappointed with the Surface Pro 4. The battery cycle is still good but the battery swelled up just recently. I went on the web to do some research and found out that the Surface Pro 4 had a high rate of fail because of poor design. There was not enough heat dissipation. I enjoyed it when it was working fine but I started to see some screen burn it. They said those were early signs of too much heat affecting the hardware. I think your screen flicker might be part of the heating issues as well. Before the battery swelled up the fan was running intensely even while just watching youtube videos.
Would you recommend waiting until October when the Microsoft Surface Laptop 4 comes out? Heard it might be packin the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U
If you’re looking for Ryzen, absolutely. That’s one thing you just can’t beat in terms of CPU architecture with intel vs amd right now
Still rocking Surface Pro 3 in 2021. Still working well.
picked up just this tablet on ebay with an i7 and 8gb ram for $150, great tablet
Wow ! Awesome deal!
How did you get that kind of deal??
Liam K , got lucky, happens once in a blue moon on EBay
That's crazy you're super lucky man in my country all of them costing $800 used even after 4 years! And funny thing is Ipad or hell macbook air with similar specs couldn't have this high resell price like it used to
about purchasing one 8gb pro 4 about 300€ .. did you have any problem so far? i’ve read something about the screen especially on pro 3 and 4...
i have that windows pc and i got if Christmas 2020 and it makes noises and the screen flickers a lot its brand new
I still have a Surface pro 4 still working today. I used the surface pro 4 to get me through callege. Its one of the longest computers I owned. My GF made it her computer after I upgraded to a new Surface last year but she loves it and won't let me get rid of it lol.
That’s awesome! Yeah I miss my SP4 lol. I really enjoyed it. Sold it at a discount to my sister when she needed a laptop for school about a month and a half ago. Got a good deal on it so it only felt right to pass it on.
Did yoh face flickering problems??
@@aimansadaf2427 Yes it did. I would have to turn it off and wait 30min and it would go back to normal. When I upgraded to a new Surface I never had the flickering problem again and the flickering problem is one of the reasons I upgraded. I believe the Pro 4 is the only one that has the flickering problem. My gf still uses the Pro 4 and doesn't do anything heavy to make the processor get hot so it never really flickers for her.
@@taylornicty1170thanx for the reply. It has helped a lot. I need to use sp4 for web browsing, downloading and study purpose only~ thinking to buy a used one in ~250 usd, i wonder wether it will flicker with the mentioned activity or not~
Hi , really nice video!
I'd like to sell my 4go surface Pro 4 to buy a 8go one with the keyboard and pen
Do you think blender would work fine in that one?
Also please can you do a video on unclaimed baggage and how to buy them? Would be really interesting and much appreciated.
Aside from that, keep the good work!
Hello!
Is the m3 processor a good choice for pro audio stuff?
I would like to use a microsoft surface 4 playing bass live using an audio software(like amplitube) to process my instrument's signal in real time.
Is that processor enought?
Nice video, thanks!
no
Ehhhh. I'd avoid an m3 model at all costs unless you'll only be doing light web browsing.
I just picked up a perfectly restored one for $130. i5, 4GB, 128GB. Couldn't ask for anything better. Quality product, 1080p display.. It'll be perfect for me. I'll be using it to teach myself animation, I'll prob be exporting and doing my projects in 480p, so that shouldn't be an issue lmao.
even my Surface 4 tab year 2015 is still working fine ...just love the Surface ...tho I am now dreaming of owning a Pro, probably next year when the price gets a bit lower for a used one...
BTW flicker gate is display dependant. You CAN get flicker gate on your device after replacing the screen
Gotcha. Thanks so much for the heads up on this. I’m keeping an eye out on mine.
ClipPlayTV i replaced the ssd in my sp4. I dropped the screen accidentally (yeah go figure I didn't break it while opening) when I got my replacement from Ali express it started doing flickergate behavior. And weird freezing. If I remember correctly it's just the display controller inside overheating and getting damaged
rayproductions backup channel you can replace it with the Surface Pro 5 1796 LG display and it’ll solve your flickergate issue permanently. Keep in mind you will need to replace the display cable as well. At the end of the day its worth it. If you need links lmk.
Jonathan Martinez i don't own that surface anymore. But was the surface pro 5 display any better than the 4?