Hi Tommy. After watching your two videos about those Brazilian pellets ( Rifle rtx) I thought I've got to have a go because I've never seen you so enthusiastic about a new pellet that's not a jsb. Anyway, I bought 250 in .22 which was a hefty £15.00 give or take from i hunter on Amazon. They turned up today and look fantastic but just as you said they're covered in those quite large bits of lead and very oily. Sorry for the long drawn out message, just wanted to confirm that the 22 is the same as the 177. Btw I dug out my ultrasonic jewellery cleaner after seeing your video. Great idea. I'm 63 years old and love watching you younger guys improving technique and showing us old gits how it's done. Also, I only have a couple of springers and my best rifle is a pr900!! Don't laugh. 😁😁😁
Hi mate, that's amazing to hear 😀 the rifle brand pellets (the premium lines anyway 🤣) have so far been one of the best finds of the year on the channel. It's great you've tried them out. Most of us younger guys have been fortunate to have been mentored by some of the best 'old boys' in the game. We all love the nerdy stuff and if we can all learn something new and push the development of the sport forward then that's a win for all of us 😉 Cheers mate!
Hello In my .177 carbine I use the Rifle Round which is from the same manufacturer as the one in the video... In my .22 carbine she liked the Destroyer Rifle and the Flat Head Rifle better.
I spray my pellets with carb cleaner, leave them for a few days then spray silicone spray on them let that dry and they shoot lovely close groups. I would estimate 5-8% closer groups.
This is why I use QYS, no lead flakes at all, consistent weights, and no lube on them what so ever. Makes it easier of you do choose to add your own. I've not added any myself, and I get pellet on pellet at 40 yards. Admittedly I'm using a heavily tuned 97k.
I was using the rifle premium pellets 4 years ago in my regal ,r10 and np-02with much the same results, the only reason I stopped using them was because I couldn't find a supplier that carried them ,now they 're back with re-designed packaging, washing them was a must as my barrels were filthy after 200 shots
One element I would love you to add is chrono data for different pellets. How energy varies with weight and head size would be useful to know, particularly in the context of maintaining sub 12. Great content, thanks.
Hi mate, I plan to do some fairly involved vids over the winter along these lines, power/weight/size And some extensive chrono work. It'll have to wait until the weather's a bit worse though as I'm enjoying playing in the sun too much 😉
Cheers mate, it's great fun in the wind for sure. I definitely need to make a couple of little flags though for filming though.i think it'd be great to have one in the downrange footage too🤔
Thanks for your time and effort, another really interesting one Tommy. For the bit of prep work they might need, these look to be well worth a punt for the price 😁
Hi mate,I'm glad I came back to them. They are fantastic in the wind, almost textbook drift so should be easy enough to shoot well 😀 I'd rather not have to clean them up,but it's not too time consuming so I'd say it's worth it.
Morning TG. Nice set of results with those pellets, classic performance of the RTX in the wind, would be very interesting to see how they perform in some of my rifles that are little less exotic than your ones. They are an interesting shape, looks a bit like a slug with a skirt at the end, so presumably they have less contact in the barrel than a slug does, so will exit with a higher fps, probably a bit friendlier in a choked barrel as well.
Hi mate,I've been really happy with them so far. The Rtx are absolutely text book drift wise. I'm seeing a tiny bit more drop than with my good batches of jsb exacts but for the majority of our usual disciplines, not enough to make any appreciable click changes. The ultra heavies pack a real punch,I'd like to try these in ballistic gel for sure 😉
Really enjoyable video, recently subscribed. I’ve got to be honest, love the logic and testing. You’re a great teacher and it’s given me the bug again. I guess I will be cleaning all my pellets after this 😂😁
Thanks for being a part of the channel mate 😉 I like to be methodical with all this stuff,it helps get cleaner more repeatable results. Many of the pellets are absolutely fine to run straight from the tin tbh, the Rtx are just a bit over lubed . Maybe for extra protection when coming from a warmer climate. Definitely worth a bit of experimenting though. So barrels will definitely see small improvement with a wash and lube,some won't...😉
Is the graphite lube a homebrew? I cast firearm projectiles and also a big bore rifle slugs and I will sometimes lubricate deep hollow point or hollow base pins with an isopropyl graphite powder mixture to promote easy release from the mold. Just wondering if that is what is your lubrication mixture?
Hi mate,at this stage it is a bit of a home brew yeah. I need to spend a bit more time keeping an eye on things like potential seal damage and barrel corrosion before it goes public.dont want to be sitting on long term issues,not that I can foresee any but I'll spend some more time using it first before saying what it is 😉
What has happened with the lead ban that was proposed some time ago? I thought by now we would have seen an influx of lead free pellets. Those RTX look like contenders to replace the JSB.
Another great video.Thank you. Im from Brazil and ive been comparing rifle pellets against JSB and H&N. All the premium line are performing amazing. I think you shoul try the Super Magnum 10.03gr. They are a little bit more lead residual in the tin, but once cleaning and select they are really good.
Hi mate, thanks for joining us in the UK 😉 I shall see if I can find the 10gn . It would be great to find an alternative to my favourite jsb heavies at 10.34gn. I'm very impressed with the tolerances of manufacture of the premium ranges. When I get some more,I will test with much more detailed weighing and sorting,and a quick wash and lube 😉
Greetings from Buenos Aires. RIFLE pellets; one single word: excellent product; and excellent price compared to top brands. Now, understand those heavy are good for PCP. I´m using PREMIUM Flathead Light (7.41 gr) and Heavy (8.18 gr); plus Round (8.33 gr) with my springers: excellent performance as well ... !
@@tillysgunstocks That´s an option. But I don´t recommend copper coated: more expensive and not quite good for the rifling. Try to look for AIR BOSS Field Target (domed; made by Apolo).
@@tillysgunstocksI ordered some from Barra they are called the clyde pellet in .25 cal and be advised, the tins looked like they had been in a train wreck, all due to insufficient packaging, 4 tins totally demolished, 2 so bad they would have had to cut them open. taking pics of them to send back to barra.
I don’t clean or lube pellets. Maybe I should. I had a shooter tell me he washed his ammo is a strong mixture of ivory dish soap and let them air dry. Enough of the soap mixture remained and acted as a lube. I do lube bigbore slugs. I use a mixture of isopropyl alcohol and liquid lanolin. 25% lanolin 75% alcohol. Put it in a spray bottle and spritz projectiles. If you reload centerfire, this is probably a better case lube than a bullet lube but it is slick enough to allow case & projectile resizing of brass & softer lead projectiles. I cast using mixture of pure lead and wheel weight lead. The projectiles are harder than pure lead but soft enough for HP expansion at velocities I get out of my airforce texans (.308 & .457).
Hi mate, some pellets will definitely respond well to a little bit of prep work, the Rtx are just a bit grotty for me and I can't risk the lead flakes getting blown into the action itself. I'm glad I tried it though as they show some real potential. I would say though... I'd be very very cautious using some traditional dish soaps/washing up liquids to clean pellets as they potentially contain some salt😬 That's a sure fire way to cause corrosion issues. Things like car shampoos are very similar but without salt, same with leak detector sprays Vs washing up liquid 😉
@@motorgearhead back in the day when I was apprenticing as a plumber it was always drummed Into us never to use washing up liquids for anything other than the dishes or for beading silicone. I've seen some nasty corrosion in cylinders that have been leak detected in a bowl of soapy water too. Probably best to be safe than have an issue mate😉
Does the black graphene lube get on your fingers and then all over the place? I've tried simple graphite treatment of the barrel and dusting of pellets and they seemed to shoot tighter groups but it became too messy to bother with.
So far in further testing,it's proving really good. The liquid carrier of the graphene seems to flash off a bit and there's no obvious residue or build up on the barrel/pellet probe. I've started to use it on the express for br duty too now. I'll do some comparative testing vids when I get chance 😉
The glove is a target shooting glove with extra grip across the back of the palm(where the butt pad usually sits) and some extra rigidity to reduce my pulse movement on the rifle😉
Hi Tommy. After watching your two videos about those Brazilian pellets ( Rifle rtx) I thought I've got to have a go because I've never seen you so enthusiastic about a new pellet that's not a jsb.
Anyway, I bought 250 in .22 which was a hefty £15.00 give or take from i hunter on Amazon. They turned up today and look fantastic but just as you said they're covered in those quite large bits of lead and very oily.
Sorry for the long drawn out message, just wanted to confirm that the 22 is the same as the 177.
Btw I dug out my ultrasonic jewellery cleaner after seeing your video. Great idea.
I'm 63 years old and love watching you younger guys improving technique and showing us old gits how it's done.
Also, I only have a couple of springers and my best rifle is a pr900!! Don't laugh. 😁😁😁
I have a 35 weihrauch from the 70s am 63 and it's brilliant with 5.5 pellets
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50p size hole
Hi mate, that's amazing to hear 😀 the rifle brand pellets (the premium lines anyway 🤣) have so far been one of the best finds of the year on the channel. It's great you've tried them out.
Most of us younger guys have been fortunate to have been mentored by some of the best 'old boys' in the game. We all love the nerdy stuff and if we can all learn something new and push the development of the sport forward then that's a win for all of us 😉
Cheers mate!
Im 60 and mine shoot out dust @@tillysgunstocks
Hello In my .177 carbine I use the Rifle Round which is from the same manufacturer as the one in the video... In my .22 carbine she liked the Destroyer Rifle and the Flat Head Rifle better.
I spray my pellets with carb cleaner, leave them for a few days then spray silicone spray on them let that dry and they shoot lovely close groups. I would estimate 5-8% closer groups.
A few guys I know do the same, not much work for a nice little improvement in group size 😎
I do the same except for using dish soap Dawn instead of carb cleaner
This is why I use QYS, no lead flakes at all, consistent weights, and no lube on them what so ever. Makes it easier of you do choose to add your own.
I've not added any myself, and I get pellet on pellet at 40 yards. Admittedly I'm using a heavily tuned 97k.
I was using the rifle premium pellets 4 years ago in my regal ,r10 and np-02with much the same results, the only reason I stopped using them was because I couldn't find a supplier that carried them ,now they 're back with re-designed packaging, washing them was a must as my barrels were filthy after 200 shots
One element I would love you to add is chrono data for different pellets. How energy varies with weight and head size would be useful to know, particularly in the context of maintaining sub 12. Great content, thanks.
Hi mate, I plan to do some fairly involved vids over the winter along these lines, power/weight/size
And some extensive chrono work. It'll have to wait until the weather's a bit worse though as I'm enjoying playing in the sun too much 😉
Love shooting in the wind, no choice in Scotland 😮... you're spot on, learn so much by doing so. Excellent content as usual 👏
Cheers mate, it's great fun in the wind for sure. I definitely need to make a couple of little flags though for filming though.i think it'd be great to have one in the downrange footage too🤔
Thanks for your time and effort, another really interesting one Tommy. For the bit of prep work they might need, these look to be well worth a punt for the price 😁
Hi mate,I'm glad I came back to them. They are fantastic in the wind, almost textbook drift so should be easy enough to shoot well 😀 I'd rather not have to clean them up,but it's not too time consuming so I'd say it's worth it.
Thank you for making the video 😊
Thanks for watching 😉
I've always wondered if graphite powder would work as a pellet lube , after all being dry it won't pick up bits of debris.
Morning TG. Nice set of results with those pellets, classic performance of the RTX in the wind, would be very interesting to see how they perform in some of my rifles that are little less exotic than your ones. They are an interesting shape, looks a bit like a slug with a skirt at the end, so presumably they have less contact in the barrel than a slug does, so will exit with a higher fps, probably a bit friendlier in a choked barrel as well.
Hi mate,I've been really happy with them so far. The Rtx are absolutely text book drift wise. I'm seeing a tiny bit more drop than with my good batches of jsb exacts but for the majority of our usual disciplines, not enough to make any appreciable click changes.
The ultra heavies pack a real punch,I'd like to try these in ballistic gel for sure 😉
Really enjoyable video, recently subscribed. I’ve got to be honest, love the logic and testing. You’re a great teacher and it’s given me the bug again. I guess I will be cleaning all my pellets after this 😂😁
Thanks for being a part of the channel mate 😉
I like to be methodical with all this stuff,it helps get cleaner more repeatable results.
Many of the pellets are absolutely fine to run straight from the tin tbh, the Rtx are just a bit over lubed . Maybe for extra protection when coming from a warmer climate. Definitely worth a bit of experimenting though. So barrels will definitely see small improvement with a wash and lube,some won't...😉
Heyup chap, great informative content, cheers buddy, Jon 👍Hawkes eye TV 👍😁
Cheers mate, definitely a fun couple of vids playing with the Brazilians 😉
Just ordered the thunders in .177 they should be spot on on my squirrel feeders.
I reckon they will be great for the job,if the barrel likes them 😉
My Daystate Huntsman isn’t pellet fussy and I am sure one of my thre rifles will like them. I will let you know how I get on with them.
Thank you for your testing and time
Thanks for watching mate, it's great fun being able to get out and give this stuff a good test in the wind 😉
Great test Tommy,think I'll have to add 'em to my shopping list😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎
Get some tested mate 😉
Be prepared to give them a wash if they need it, through my barrels it's definitely worth that little extra cleanup time😎
Is the graphite lube a homebrew? I cast firearm projectiles and also a big bore rifle slugs and I will sometimes lubricate deep hollow point or hollow base pins with an isopropyl graphite powder mixture to promote easy release from the mold. Just wondering if that is what is your lubrication mixture?
Hi mate,at this stage it is a bit of a home brew yeah. I need to spend a bit more time keeping an eye on things like potential seal damage and barrel corrosion before it goes public.dont want to be sitting on long term issues,not that I can foresee any but I'll spend some more time using it first before saying what it is 😉
I’ll have to try these ! Look
Interesting thanks 👍👍👍
They're pretty cool mate, I'm glad I revisited them tbh. I'm going to run the heavies out to 100yds as soon as the wind drops a bit
Love this content, nice one dude. 😊
I’ve just looked to see how much the pellet head size gauge is you’re using, I can’t believe how expensive they are!
I was expecting a 5th of that 😮
I think it was just under 45 when I got it. It's very useful for using on film as it's well calibrated 😀
What has happened with the lead ban that was proposed some time ago? I thought by now we would have seen an influx of lead free pellets. Those RTX look like contenders to replace the JSB.
Another great video.Thank you. Im from Brazil and ive been comparing rifle pellets against JSB and H&N. All the premium line are performing amazing. I think you shoul try the Super Magnum 10.03gr. They are a little bit more lead residual in the tin, but once cleaning and select they are really good.
Hi mate, thanks for joining us in the UK 😉
I shall see if I can find the 10gn . It would be great to find an alternative to my favourite jsb heavies at 10.34gn.
I'm very impressed with the tolerances of manufacture of the premium ranges. When I get some more,I will test with much more detailed weighing and sorting,and a quick wash and lube 😉
Great. In Brazil the JSB and H&N price are insane. The Rifle pellets are performing head to head with my airgun.
Greetings from Buenos Aires. RIFLE pellets; one single word: excellent product; and excellent price compared to top brands. Now, understand those heavy are good for PCP. I´m using PREMIUM Flathead Light (7.41 gr) and Heavy (8.18 gr); plus Round (8.33 gr) with my springers: excellent performance as well ... !
Hi mate, thanks for joining us here in the UK😉 the rifle pellets are quite new to us here, I think they will become quite popular in time. 😎
@@tillysgunstocks I know. By the way, try APOLO Air Boss (made in Argentina). Can you get them there ... ?
I've had a look around, it looks like we can only get copper coated versions? Are they the ones?
@@tillysgunstocks That´s an option. But I don´t recommend copper coated: more expensive and not quite good for the rifling. Try to look for AIR BOSS Field Target (domed; made by Apolo).
U need to try some barra 13 grains pellets I order one tin of them
I've not seen them yet, I'll add them to the list to try 😉
@@tillysgunstocksI ordered some from Barra they are called the clyde pellet in .25 cal and be advised, the tins looked like they had been in a train wreck, all due to insufficient packaging, 4 tins totally demolished, 2 so bad they would have had to cut them open. taking pics of them to send back to barra.
I don’t clean or lube pellets. Maybe I should. I had a shooter tell me he washed his ammo is a strong mixture of ivory dish soap and let them air dry. Enough of the soap mixture remained and acted as a lube. I do lube bigbore slugs. I use a mixture of isopropyl alcohol and liquid lanolin. 25% lanolin 75% alcohol. Put it in a spray bottle and spritz projectiles. If you reload centerfire, this is probably a better case lube than a bullet lube but it is slick enough to allow case & projectile resizing of brass & softer lead projectiles. I cast using mixture of pure lead and wheel weight lead. The projectiles are harder than pure lead but soft enough for HP expansion at velocities I get out of my airforce texans (.308 & .457).
Hi mate, some pellets will definitely respond well to a little bit of prep work, the Rtx are just a bit grotty for me and I can't risk the lead flakes getting blown into the action itself. I'm glad I tried it though as they show some real potential.
I would say though... I'd be very very cautious using some traditional dish soaps/washing up liquids to clean pellets as they potentially contain some salt😬
That's a sure fire way to cause corrosion issues. Things like car shampoos are very similar but without salt, same with leak detector sprays Vs washing up liquid 😉
@@tillysgunstocks - thanks, never considered salt being in the mix.
@@motorgearhead back in the day when I was apprenticing as a plumber it was always drummed Into us never to use washing up liquids for anything other than the dishes or for beading silicone. I've seen some nasty corrosion in cylinders that have been leak detected in a bowl of soapy water too. Probably best to be safe than have an issue mate😉
Interesting pellets
I'm pretty happy with them mate, it's great we are getting more viable alternatives to the majority brands 😉
Awesome bro...
Cheers mate 😉
Does the black graphene lube get on your fingers and then all over the place? I've tried simple graphite treatment of the barrel and dusting of pellets and they seemed to shoot tighter groups but it became too messy to bother with.
So far in further testing,it's proving really good. The liquid carrier of the graphene seems to flash off a bit and there's no obvious residue or build up on the barrel/pellet probe.
I've started to use it on the express for br duty too now. I'll do some comparative testing vids when I get chance 😉
I spray my pellets with fairy dust and get tighter groups.
You sound like a certain particularly good UK benchrest shooter I know 🤣
🤣 Präzise zu treffen ist auch eine "Kopfsache", den Placebo-Effekt sollte man dabei nicht unterschätzen!
Are these pellets readily available now in the UK?If so what sort of price are they?
They are mate, they look to be imported by smk so most shops should be able to get them 😉
what's the name of the lube ?
It's a bit of a home brew at this point mate, once I'm happy it won't be a problem longer term I'll put up the details 😉
"yes hun, just watching some videos with hundreds of Brazilian skirts..."
Graphene? Or graphite..? 😮
Graphene apparently mate 😉
Why do you keep putting the glove on don't get not unless you have both on for winter shooting 3lb trigger
The glove is a target shooting glove with extra grip across the back of the palm(where the butt pad usually sits) and some extra rigidity to reduce my pulse movement on the rifle😉
Same crap very time !! Not bothering to watch no more
This isn’t an airport, so no need to announce your departure.
I'll just pin this here for you...
Always a cool story from a non-contributor.
How can the channel bend over backward to appeal to your needs? Cat videos? Air-gunning puppies?