Les Paul Vs ES-335 - That Pedal Show
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- Mick has a 335, Dan has a Les Paul - what about you?
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Welcome to the show! Dan and I recently did a Strat Vs Tele episode - • Strat Vs Tele - That P... - and we enjoyed it more than we thought we would. So it's on to a couple of our favourite Gibson fiddles. That would be the venerable Electric Spanish 335 in my case (Mick here) and the truly legendary Les Paul Standard for Daniel.
This isn't really a video for those of you who know these guitars inside out, though you may enjoy it anyway. Moreover it's aimed at those of you who have an interest in one or the other and/or have been maybe thinking about taking the plunge. Just how much do they differ, given they have more or less the same hardware and electronics complement?
Now clearly, there have been MANY different Lesters and Threethirtyfives down the years and their sounds can vary radically. So don't be all up in our comments section about that. We have what we have and that's what we're using. Two guitars, a bit of fun.
Both of these guitars are 'modern' Gibson reissues of classic year 1958, interestingly enough the same year the ES-335 debuted and the Les Paul Standard turned sunburst.
Sorry we never got to playing the Goldtop… despite promising to at least twice!
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Interesting bits and go-to sections:
- Intro playing: 00:00
- What are we doing today?: 01:15
- Today’s guitars: 02:30
- Clean tones: 04:25
- Tuning and intonation?: 09:45
- What Mick loves about the ES-335: 12:35
- …and with more gain, 335 & Les Paul: 15:40
- What about feedback?: 20:46
- Mid-focussed fusiony stuff?: 24:15
- Mid-gain rock?: 30:50
- Knock the volume pot back: 33:25
- Both pickups - Clapton? And woman tone?: 38:50
- Fuzz? 45:33
- Harmonious Monk!: 49:15
- Woss yer fave then?: 53:20
Guitars in this episode:
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 (2017 model) - Mick’s video at: • Gibson Memphis 1958 ES...
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Pal Standard (2002 model) - Dan’s video at: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
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Let’s try and get through this without it ending in me browsing reverb and wishing I was wealthier
Fat chance, eh?
Not a chance.
If you looked at my Reverb browsing history it'd have Friday afternoon written all over it!
I know… I just bought a lefty 335 style Eastman… nice, but Not quite the same thing as a 335 but less than half of the cost… I really wish it were a 335
Too real
To me, this channel is “That Tone Show.” I love it when you guys venture beyond pedals.
Yes yes yes.
One of the saving graces of today's UA-cam
@@FuzzyDancingBear my entire feed is nothing 5150 iconic and prs se silver sky. This is nice
They seem to have really good knowledge of how to use the amp and guitar and not just rely on pedals.
Es335 style is more comfortable sitting.
Here’s what I find in these “shootouts” and when I do them with my own gear and with friends. It basically comes down to what you’re comparing it to and eventually it becomes swings and roundabouts. If you have two guitars that are tonally similar like these two then generally the guitar with a little more higher end appears better. That’s why they call ES’s “burst killers”. But if you then take that 335 and compare it with an SG, the SG is the shoutier guitar and appears to win out. Compare the SG with a V and the same thing happens. Now come full circle and compare the V with the Les Paul and they’re not tonally similar enough that all of the sudden the V starts sounding a bit like a tin can next to the Les Paul. If they’re tonally close the brighter guitar wins, if it’s not close the warmer guitar wins. My .02
I love cranking my full hollow. The feedback is just another, fully controlable, feature of the guitar. I'm the knob.
YES!
You *are* a knob
Plus feeling the air move through the sound holes 😍
@@JasonClute that too 👍
@@cannibalsausage5767 I did say.
Mick: "Catherine is womaning the cameras" Catherine: "ooh yeah!"
That made me laugh too. However, for a little while at the start, I got the impression Mick seemed a bit self-conscious in front of the camera? Maybe having ‘the boss’ there had this effect, but I did wonder what Mick was thinking when he said they ‘needed’ to acquire a Gibson SG for their collection in front of Catherine. Then again, maybe that’s just because I can imagine getting ‘that look’ from my Mrs if she heard me saying I was thinking of buying another guitar!
Cute dog
@@stephendixon8575 I think it was the stress of lockdown slamming down the next day
Equally wonderful sounding guitars, but noticeably different tonal qualities. As a Fender single coil guy, I gravitate toward the 335 over the LP because it does tend to have a more open harmonic sound. As Clapton (and many others) proved, however, you can sound equally amazing on a Tele, Strat, 335, or LP if you have the skills to adapt to the playing characteristics of each guitar. And I've proved you can sound equally bad on all four. 🤪
😂
Here’s the thing: My dad ran a store, and received new guitars every week. Everything sounded warmer and rounder in his hands than in mine. The difference was greater than 335 VS Les Paul. So much so, that I had to go to the amp to match his tones. Chasing the right guitar will just lead you round in circles. Try chasing the right tone instead, and let that lead you to the guitar that fits your playing.
I bought a Tele a few months ago, passed it around among myself & 5 friends, and it made 4-5 pretty different sounds. Pickups and speaker and EQ certainly shape the tone, but the player is the same from instrument to instrument
I’m playing a squire standard. Solid axe but nothing fancy. I’ve always wanted something more fancy like an American made fender.
One day my teacher borrowed it and I realised just how much of the potential in the guitar i wasn’t reaching.
Players really affect the sound immensely!
I think you guys are missing the point. Most are here to see if there is a tonal difference
I'm so tired of guitar players parroting this nonsense as if it's fact. It's this 'iTs aLL iN YoUr fiNGeRs' that's been passed around as gospel for decades and I'm sorry to tell you but guitars and gear do/does make a difference tonally.
You can absolutely chase tones AND get them. I've been doing it since the mid-90s. As a teen, I heard Clapton, Hendrix and Page all playing through Marshalls and chased that tone for years until I found out that it wasn't in anyone's fingers, it was in getting a 1967 Superlead and realizing that the newer ones sound nothing like the old ones. The second I turned that amp up, I knew right then and there that the right amp was EXACTLY what I was looking for.
And for guitars, I've always loved Gibsons but never found any new ones that I cared for. Then I found a beat to hell '67 335 that was FINALLY the tone I was looking for - still literally nothing to do with my playing or fingers.
Les Paul (or classic recordings of them) had always been my favorite guitar tone but again, none of the new ones sounded like what I wanted. Of course every hack and music store clerk parroted the gospel of 'it's in your fingers' nonsense but when I was finally able to afford a converted (50s P-90 LP routed for humbuckers) THAT WAS IT - I had finally found a Les Paul that sounded like the old recordings I'd always loved.
So no, kids, it's not in your fingers, it's the gear. Don't give up, you'll eventually find a guitar that works for you, tonally - and it doesn't have to be a $20,000 guitar; my '67 335 cost me far less than a new Custom Shop costs.
@@WetOldeThere's literally **zero** difference tonally between a Squire and an American made Fender. It is the same wood, same electronics and same pickups (unless we're talking Custom Shop) - the only difference is going to be fit and finish. The Squire might not feel as good or you'll have cosmetic issues, but tonally, they are the same thing.
Catherine(Katherine) thank you for womaning, and for all you do in support of this addiction we deal with.
Thanks Denis, I’ll pass that on. (The K is correct). We literally could not do it without her. :0)
Great team. Sorry for the “C”. Wasn’t certain. My Friday mornings are for only one thing. Coffee and TPS!
Love the fact that you guys (primarily) play classic guitars (Teles, Strats, LPs, 335s) and tube amps. Don't ever change! :-)
around 13 minutes in, Mick switched to the middle position on a clean tone and i immediately thought "That's THE classic blues sound"
It’s not quite as close of a comparison but I’d love to see a Gretsch vs es-335/330
That would be cool!
@@ThatPedalShow yes this! Country Gentleman or a Falcon!!
Agreed!!
Agreed, I've often had that debate with myself when considering what sort of semi-hollow body to add to the arsenal.
I know it's not quite the same thing, but I have a Epiphone Sheraton II Pro and a Gretsch 5420T and I'm really loving the feel of my Sheraton. The tone is very different compared to the 5420T. I love both of them. So my answer is get both and don't compare. They bring different things out of your playing. P.S. My Ibanez Artist acts as my Les Paul, but needless to say, it's not a Les Paul. It does have its own thing though. I definitely don't play it enough.
335 for me, every time. That hollow body gives it much more twang than the Les Paul, and when overdriven it is absolutely THE guitar tone of rock n' roll.
Mick's playing around 13 minutes in is the same reason I love my 335. Also, an interesting aside, lots of my favorite older jazz/blues records like Grant Green, Kenny Burrell, Wes, they were using tweeds and/or pushed tube amps with their Gibby hollows. I think those are pinnacle tones even though Jazz started getting into that sterile clean territory later on, those early records have amazing tones. Grant Green especially with the 330 (p90s I know) yet its still that thing, never gets old for me. Now you have Julian Lage playing through tweeds and pushed fenders and its a refreshing move back to those rootsy sounds
especially in that middle position! As a drummer, I find playing with guys on 335s so much more comfortable. I spent a lot of years in an electric blues band where both guitarists played 335s as their main axes (one through a Matchless and one throug a Mesa Blue Angel!) and it was glorious. (though I think my ideal would be one with a 335 and one on something with P90s)
I've been watching your show since the beginning. This episode is one of your best. Well-paced and EMPIRICAL!
Les Paul more of a "thwack" 335 more of a "thwunk" both awesome
I like that a lot. Nice!
I'd say 335 more of a Thwap!!!!
My fave position on an LP is the middle, which gets left out of a lot of YT videos. And I don’t mean the out-of-phase tone; just a normal middle position. Nice and open and airy - more like a 335 in fact.
Page used the middle position a lot! Hence why I use it a lot. Amazing sound.
The middle, yes! I'm with you. A little overdrive in the neck position is very nice and heavy also.
Funny you say this cause I normally either play bridge or neck, but I store my LP with the switch in the middle position. Every time I plug in the guitar, the first few notes are usually in the middle position. And I always have to think, "That sounds sweet." I have to do it more often.
middle position with two P90s is heavenly.
As the owner of two Les Paul’s... get yourself a strat. Much better guitar for that type of tone. And get a Tele for good measure. And a jazzmaster. And basically anything Fender make.
This really shows the tones that can come from just one guitar. More people need to learn to play their guitar , pedals ares the icing on the cake. Great show guys , as much as is good on 10. Some times is nice to take the back seat and dime it down and enjoy the ride !!
Don't even need to watch this...335.
Don't worry guys! I'm still gonna watch it.
Mick: "a little bit more reverb"
Dan's face: "oh yeah, it's all coming together"
Amazing theme, guys! I’ve wanted to see this battle for ages! Cheers!
Love the off the cuff episodes, the energy of you two just having fun playing is uplifting. Keep having fun gents!
And the Lord said to Abraham "Give me a tele, a 335, a Marshall Plexi, and a Memory Man and I shall rule the world".
It's spelt Metalzone bruh
@@AtomMotherHeart lol. DS1 forever
And the Lord said: "Bruh I'm a Sabbath fan so you'll get an SG, a treble booster and a Laney AND THOU SHALL LIKE IT!"
Maybe, but he told me “Give me a Les Paul and a Hiwatt, and all the lands before you shall be yours.”
The lord said to me, "you're getting an Epiphone Dot and a used Hot Rod Deluxe because you're broke, son."
It’s as is you fellas stepped into my head and said “let’s do an episode just for this guy!” These are two of my favourite guitars and I own both... and both are equally loved ! Thanks for the episode fellas 🤘🏽
Since the Strat Tele show, I seriously prayed this was on the docket!!! I’ve been contemplating one over the other for quite some time now.
I will absolutely end up with both, but this helps narrow down which comes first. Thanks for the help? Haha!! Excellent stuff fellas!!
Get both. I have both. No regrets.
I love the chemistry between Dan and Mick. There's no apprehension about touching each other's knobs.
I’m sure they have no apprehension about touching each other!
And even with a semi.
No homo
Shampoo is better! I go on first and clean the hair!
Conditioner is better! I leave the hair silky and smooth!
You deserve a medal for this reference. Wasn’t expecting it hahaha.
Stop looking at me swan
Great show, as ever! You absolutely hit the nail on the head at 37:45, talking about the difference in dynamic range/intrinsic compression between 25.5 and 24.75 inch scale length guitars. LPs really shine when you let them breathe by not attacking the strings quite as hard.
The thing I love about the Gibson layout is rhythm on neck rolled back a touch and flick the pup switch to bridge for full-on lead. With an amp just at it’s pretty-break up. Perfect.
This is _so_ handy for me. I've always been a Fender player too. I have had a Dot for years, but only this week picked up an LP (copy - my first LP) this week! Fantastic see the comparisons A/B'd like this - and the volume roll-off hints too! 🙂
I am lucky enough to own two guitars similar to each of these; the Les Paul was a 60th birthday present last summer, the the 335 I have owned for thirty years but just returned from a 20 year loan spell to my nephew last week! Your show has inspired me, again, this time, to look for what each of these iconic instruments can do and where to fit them into my reemerging repertoire. Great show lads, keep them coming!
Great counterintuitive tips about turning down the vol. on LP. Nice goof at the end of episode Dan. Keep killing it guys!
As a pro sax player infiltrating the guitar world, I am compelled to say the following: I learn so very much from you guys and I really dig this channel. Enjoy hearing each of you play too. I own a 335 and a Les Paul and this video reiterated - quite enjoyably, I might add - what I've gleaned from my own pursuit, which is that there is much that is alike in the performance of each of these classics but so much, nuance in particular, that is unique to each that one should own at least one of each in a complete collection. Please help me explain this to my wife...
335 is the thinking man's gibbo! 😊
Some of the best tones you've gotten i think. Although I say that almost every video. Bless you two for keeping real guitar tone alive
Mick and Dan, Thank you guys for this video. You guys are like two scientists talking shop regarding guitars. You guys are so experienced and are actually sharing your life's experiences with us. Enjoyed listening and watching you. Thank You again. Love from Mumbai, India.
So what you're telling me is ... I need both in my life ... sounds reasonable enough to me, I'll go let the wife know ... if you don't hear from me again, I'm dead.
Until seeing this video I could not tell the difference between the sound of those two guitars after adding some gain! Clean sounds I could tell them apart, but overdriven or distorted sounds, I could not! At all! You guys opened my eyes! Thank you!
That was so interesting and answered a lot of questions. Great job great sounds and playing. All the best from Australia.
Fantastic episode ! I learned a lot and discovered new tones in my 335 with mick’s advice. Thank you !
Both sounded good, but I prefer the 335 by miles. I think it's just have a better tone, and I prefer the looks of it.
@@vandal_dk Thas sexist! You sexist! ;)
How many miles exactly?
@@justsomeguy7650 a fuck ton
Would you feel that way no matter what you’re using the guitar for? I ask because, for my taste, my choice would depend on what I was playing. If I was playing straight up blues lead guitar, or jazz, or even just clean open chord rhythm stuff, I would go with the 335. But if I were playing ‘70s hard rock in the vein of Zeppelin or AC/DC, with a lot of heavier power chords and/or riffage, I would choose the Les Paul without hesitation. (I would actually want an SG over both the other two because I prefer the inherently brighter tone of the SG). But I’m curious to know if you would just choose the 335 for any and all situations, or if you might pick differently depending on what you were playing.
Idk man. Get yourself an R7 smoke a doob and think about it. I love my 335 but a good Lester will set you free. Play on, play on.
I feel like the Lester’s clean tone is slightly under-appreciated, because a lot of players typically think rock and roll sounds when they reach for a Les Paul. I’ve gotten some great ambient tones out of a LP for the kind of music I play.
the guy from Caspian plays a les paul and he got an amazing tone everytime
Agree 100%. I love the '59 reissue pups on my '14 LP Traditional, and like my Strats, play most material on the neck only pickup engaged. The clean tone is sooooo sweet on that...just a touch of reverb and the tone is perfect.
think of the most etherial band of all time: Sigur Ros. he used a Les Paul on those classic albums
Always interesting, always something new to learn and appreciate. Thanks guys.
I am blessed to have both guitars myself. For clean, I much prefer the woody and open tone of the 335. For hard rocking, the tighter sound of the Les Paul. They both sound great with mild distortion, and for blues, they both sound great with the Les Paul having more grit due to the pickup selection. But check out Freddie King and Clapton with the 335 and you will hear how great it sounds. Larry Carlton is the king on the 335, and for his mild breakup, the 335 can sound amazing. I play mine through a Boogie Mark VII and its one of the best sounds of any guitar. What is not talked about as much in the video is the larger 335 is a lighter guitar and the access to the higher frets is easier than the Les Paul which can be clubby above the 15 fret.
I’ve always been a big fender guy, but in September I bought an SG. I replaced the pick ups with low output Seymour duncans, and it is now my number one.
Yes! We MUST get a humbucker SG.
I love my 61 reissue SG
Me too! Been a Tele and Strat guy for years. Then bought an SG and a DC and I play those two almost exclusively live. The Fenders stay at home
Angus Young has low output pickups as well. 7800 and 8100 I think from Seymour Duncan. Or he did the last time
I checked.
@@Fr3ddyUK yeah I use a SD jazz neck with an aged alnico 5 magnet and a SD jazz bridge (not the jb) with an aged alnico 2 magnet. The alnico 2 mag in the bridge helps to smooth the mids some. The jazz bridge is a criminally underrated bridge pickup. NGL
Man I'd love to see this revisited with an SG. Lovely playing and tones gents.
All this time later, I still watch and also listen to this video once in a while to both see and hear these beautiful guitars. Still magnificent.
I was so inspired, I bought a nice Japan Tokai that looks so much like that Les Paul, earlier this year. But that ES-335, I’m on the hunt for something I can afford…
Excellent comparison! Both you guys have such nice vibratos too. Great touch sensitive dynamics also. Well done.
Room 335, Larry Carlton....Everything you ever need to know about how amazing a 335 can sound!
Bark and bite with the LP..... Grrrrrowwwwwl with the 335, with a touch of butter!
BOTH = Legendary!
Yes!! The vol knob on Gibsons to control the attack and gain! Also similar with the tone controls... back it down to 6 or 7 and turn the treble up a little on the amp. Very good for tweaking the attack and having more control over the amp from the guitar. Soooo much blending can be done on a Gibson to find all the different shades which translates to mood and emotion.... great show guys 😎
Just got a 335 style. Been struggling with eq and dynamics (as a SC player). This helped so much. I feel like I’m starting to understand now. You chaps are the best! Cheers
Finally got to watching this one. As described , the LP is playing the notes and the 335 saying them.
Oh that’s nice!
Im a strat guy myself. All my heros play them. But the 335 is beautiful and versatile.
Thanks again for thinking forward and keeping TPS as part of all our Friday's, probably THE reason to be excited on a Friday now!
Great show for me personally, I play a Deusenburg Fullerton Elite (a slim 335 inspired thing and still my suggestion for Dan's jazzbox) which I have struggled with finding a fuzz. I use a TWS throttle into a Laney Lionheart 2x12 and the best way I found is to gain stack and roll the tone pot.
Waffle over, great show and thank for being you, even when it's been tough. Inspiration
Some of the most jaw dropping tones! You guys reminded me why I’m a humbucker guy at heart! Love both guitars so much...but if I had to choose just one....335...especially that one!
I always loved how Terry Bickers of the House of love played his 335, although his is a CMI copy. He never went near the blues on his. A very underrated guitarist.
Couldn't agree more. Fantastic tone and feel.
Both are iconic and great sounding guitars. Robben Ford and Larry Carlton helped me to fall in love with the sound of 335s in the 70s. Such a versatile guitar.
If I could only have one...335. I'd rob it from Ford.
So you robbed Ford?
@@abubakr6939 -LOL, fat fingers did me in again. I will say if there's anyone whose playing I've tried to steal from its Robben Ford.
@@mattgilbert7347 - LOL, me too, his 335 back in the day was a beauty (I fixed my spelling error too).
I own styles of both (an LP studio & D’Angelico 335 style) and have always loved each. They’ve always been my second or third in line after something w/P90’s and then a Jazzmaster. Each of them are truly unique and this video, like all videos showing the fascinating nature of guitars, is reason to grab one of each 😊. You guys are the absolute best. And because of that, I’ve settled into knowing that each week I have VCQ Monday, Wednesday I have practice and Fridays I have a new TPS show. I truly hope all is well and everyone is healthy, all my love to you legends. Talk again soon.
Most enjoyable and informative guys, thanks you.
I’ve loved Les Pauls since I was 13 and had a bunch over the years. Pretty much 10-11 years ago finally bought a 335 and it’s just become the one guitar I’ll never sell. Had Les Pauls again since and I want to love them but I haven’t found the one.
These comparisons are fantastic! And totally reconfirm why the 335 is the one for me even though the LP sounds great too.
Thanks for a great video.
I’ve had the same experience. Started with a Les Pauk Studio, then a Traditional, then a Custom Shop ‘57 historic. Each had something that bothered me despite the Custom Shop being essentially perfect.
It confirms that I absolutely love hearing people playing those guitars, but I'm not as connected to the instrument as I am with my strat...to the point that tone seems way less important than feel. Great video btw !!!
Totally this. Completely agree
Thoughts on this episode as I watch:
1. 335's clean sounds have more space in 'em. Like , not that there's reverb to the sound but there's definitely less punch to your ears and more "sweep" to them. The 335 steps forward but the LP is right in there (to its possible detriment).
2. As a producer you'd be well minded to know when to point to a 335 or a LP for a part.
3. With the 335 in everything up to mid gain... you can be more relaxed about how you approach the strings. Its airier so you have space to "choose" when to dig in. With the LP Dan is having to work harder to be more sensitive. Even a slight lick of adrenaline could push it too far. I think the LP teaches the guitarist a different lesson about themselves; how to tread lightly.
4. The 335 invites you to dig in a bit to get the dynamics but the LP laughs at you: Dig as hard as you like and it'll take it.
5. Once it starts getting gainier you have to work harder with the 335 to keep it up. You can live in the world of gain with the LP
6. In a mix, with more gain, the 335 will sit back and fill in a great pad or rhythmic cushion that he song can sit on...the LP drives harder though. It is so much more aggressive that it barks orders at the music. The 335 is a competent supporting team player, the LP is a boss.
7. I never play humbuckers on 10 either... didn't analyse why (specifically) 'til now. Coil splits go up near 10 (where available) but HBs stay down about 8. Tone pots too seldom see 10 on my LP. There's so much in those pots... the sweet spot is always back a bit 'til it starts to go "goo!"
8. There's a world of gain beyond what you've demonstrated here.... I don't know about the 335 but the LP (with its compression characteristics) is totally available to people in that world.
9. Roll the pots back and spend more time finding the edge with different gain structures on your double humbucker guitars. I think there's a word of possibilities for you boys there and I for one would be delighted to see you find your way through it.
10. You two should fly by the seat of your pants more often.
Your intro has made me smile today. Thanks guys!!
Love both of those guitars. Anyone else think that the 335 sounds a bit like an analog pedal repeat of the Les Paul...
Ooooooh, that’s cool.
A bit of a harsh analogy though, coming from someone who owns several of both
Are ya’ll familiar with the band my morning jacket? They have have some of the best dueling LP v 335 tones of the modern era on a fair number of their songs.
EXCELLENT idea! Thanks! They each do really have their own voice.
I must say… Watching you guys on my flat screen through my stereo system is so much better than on my phone. Anyway, thanks for the episode… And now, I need a 335 in my future, mind you an Epiphone, but still you know what I mean. Have a great and merry Christmas to you all!
Thats weird. For me Gibsons have always stayed in tuned better and have always been easier to set up. Great video. Great playing.
That’s crazy, you must do something different, every Gibson I’ve got pretty much stays out of tune… it seems to go better with completely dead strings though… I’ve had pretty much all my friends bring there LPs to me to see if I can do something with there’s… new bone nuts and keeping the board level helps some… but any humidity change or bending and she’s gone lol… I only tune my fenders when they get new strings though…
@@robertw1871 Ha ha same, love my Les Paul but if you look at it wrong, it goes out of tune. My Strat and P bass can be in the case for months and right in tune when I pull them out.
I’ve got three LP’s and they stay in tune for hours, even overnight. My basement is 50% humidity all year. I find my one strat is more temperamental.
Just came to say Dan's LP looks gorgeous in that lighting. You guys have done a great job lighting the set, looks epic.
love your videos guys. Great content, sick playing, keep em comin'
wow, very, very interesting, and it is so much fun to watch you guys.
Loved this, thanks. Clapton went LP-335-Strat, so that’s interesting. The playing went *almost* Kossoff and my ears went ‘please play those riffs’, I admit. Cheers from sunny Brisbane.
Love them Both . I do hold to the thing of tele players like Les Pauls , and strat guys like 335's . I have lived it both ways ....For 8 years I played a Tele and nothing else ,somebody handed me an LP after breaking a string , it felt like home . fast forward , I now have been playing strat for the last 3 years , Borrowed a 335 and you guessed it feels like home . Answer: As soon as $$ allows ya need all 4 .
Gentlemen, Where was this video twenty years ago when I got my first Les Paul!?!? The experiments with the tone knobs were so instructive. I’ve been trying to get all of those tones with pedals and I now have a lifetime of knob-turning experimentation ahead of me. Thank you!
PS - Warren Haynes called and he wants his tone secrets back! 🤘😊👍
Guys, how did I miss this? I have early 90s Les Paul Std and 335 and I’ve always wanted to see/hear this video. Thanks lads. Manly kisses from Max Power 💋💋💋👍😁👍
I'm not a movie person, and I have dwindling patience for many forms of media, but TPS is something I excitedly sit down for! Ps.. that first bit from dan around 49:00 ish mark genuinely brought a tear to my eye as the feedback began to ring. I had a moment without even holding the guitar.. wow!
Ah, thanks so much Rory 🤓🙏
( Modern ) jazz players who played a Les Paul - Pat Martino , John Abercrombie , Philip Catherine , Michael Sagmeister ...
wonderful inspired playing guys
You both have great tone from your fingers alone, and so you do make these guitars sound amazing
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of any Gibson guitars, in general, even though my first electric was a Matsumoku Epiphone Emperor F, but when I heard Kris Barocis’s ES-330L (?) with the parallel wired pickups and no center block, I immediately wanted one.
In the fuzz section, you can hear the "hollowness" that the 335 gives so much more. Interesting.
Great episode Gents. Another spin on this... I have both a 335 and a Gold Top Les Paul, both with P90's. It's glorious!!
I’m loving these guitar comparison vids, chaps! “Catherine womaning the cameras” killed me too lol
I got some of that attack back in my 335 with the Lollar Low Wind. But my 335 is fairly unique in terms of near bottomless dynamics. I played one of the first 100 Mr 335 and it definitely did not like being hit hard. You really needed to play it lightly and then all that glorious sound was there. 335s are the most variable guitars I've ever seen. Have had 5 of them, all radically different.
Same with Lesters. Only the shape is the same!
They sound almost exactly the same. Either way, I really love how you guys test out gear. It really does require two people when doing a comparison.
They FEEL different
This is no VS, this is just amazing sound from Mick and Dan! Love you guys!
Thanks guys! Seems there is much to learn for a Tele-player like me :) I don't have a 335 but an Epi Sheraton and one big difference is the access to the upper frets. On a SG it is even easier. I noticed the "compression" thing when I brought the Sheraton to a solo gig. I intended to play some rock songs but struggled as I did not get the dynamics that I am used to when using an acoustic during solo gigging. The dynamics is what I need to create solid rhythm play.
I’m kind of an ES-330 guy, but I respect these other ‘variants.’
I'm craving another LP in my life. The next one may just be a 335.
Shot on birthday. What a wonderful late present. Thank you so much. Im touched guys.
It's fascinating how "midrange" is defined by guitars, by amps, by pedals - it's such a wide waveband and can mean so many things. A Les Paul into a Marshall will "have a lot of mids," in the sense that a classic Marshall's Mid control really brings out the grunt and crunch of an LP - but when I plug my PRS Hollowbody into one of my Mesa/Boogies, the lower-pitched and wider midrange of the Mesa is RIGHT where that hollow PRS starts singing. On certain versions of the Rectifier, in fact, the right combination of Gain and Treble can get you very much the same frequency band that's "Mid" on a Marshall. And as Mick well knows, a Tube Screamer fits right into the "mids" of a black-panel Fender, but the mids in a tweed Bassman are nowhere near that rounded and polite. Endlessly fascinating to me, the way "midrange" defines so much about tone but is, in itself, a moving target.
Both great guitars, the 335 is flat out amazing!!!
Quoting Yngwie: “More is more!” Get one of each!
CATHERINE! Great job! Thanks for helping. Masterful camera work Made Dan and Micks struggle with the Gibsons worth watching. Lol
Love the smooth, creamy sound of the ES-335.
It’s kind of amazing how often the best sound on “The Pedal Show” is a sound with no pedals?
Just all personal preference, but yeah, if that’s your preference, cool!
facts! but then the whole platform would have to be rethought, ha
Maybe true, but I think of it as a good thing. A great clean tone, either to be used on its own or as a pedal platform, is the basis of happy guitar playing for me. The pedals adding fun spice on top is just icing on the cake. And that part (the pedals) is oh so fun ... and probably why we are all here.
I believe in order for pedals to sound good an amp has to sound good without pedals.
@@Hehehehhehehehehehehehhe78 All the videos purporting to demo pedals are really just amp and speaker cabinet demos. Once you realize that, it becomes less important what pedals you own, and more important what amp and speaker cabinet you own.
Turning down the volume to get more dynamic is a great trick! I achieved a similar thing with my Les Paul by dropping the pickups a quarter of a centimeter or so. I found it lets the guitar breathe a bit more, and makes it a little easier to handle for this native tele player.
Owning a 335 VOS '58 (sunburst finish) and watching this episode is a good thing.
thank you guys for the super good videos!!!
The grain pattern on Dan's Les Paul is absolutely stunning. Ugh, drool...