I put the 10K for surface crystal minnows and 18K for diving crystal minnows on trolling rods behind the sailboat and couldn't be happier - uluas, onos, and shibis on a regular basis! Lost the 10K overboard and had to dive in and retrieve it 15' underwater, opened her up and bone dry. Love these reels, absolute beasts.
Ingress Protection (IP) ratings are for liquid resistance not waterproofing. An IP rating of 8 is "Protected against submersion (under conditions specified by the manufacturer)". However, this is not a submersible reel. You can't reel with it underwater because it will take in water. It's only for quick dunks not skishing. IP 8 also does not denote corrosion resistance, durability or longevity of a reel. Those are separate factors that vary from reel makes and models.
Sir what is process to buy a saragosa spinning reel 10000 series I am from India iam live in andaman& nicobar island please tell me the process please answer comment thanks
Good review. Thanks brother. FYI The first number in an IP rating is for dust ingress protection and the second digit is for water ingress protection. The character x is just a placeholder and means nothing. IP ratings have nothing to do with impact resistance unless you are talking about the molecules of dust and water literally impacting the reel. It sounded as if you were saying the reel is stronger from a structural standpoint if it carried an IPX rating and that is not true. It’s good to understand these ratings as I see more and more commercial applications advertising these ratings now. Previously I had only seen these ratings when specifying high end industrial electrical/mechanical components working as an engineer. That being said it’s important to understand what these numerical characters mean. In summary IP ratings explain the level of dust and water protection that an engineered product has. First numeric character after the characters “I” “P”is for dust. The next numeric character is for water. So in an IP65 rating the slot that the numeric character “6” occupies explains an engineered product’s dust ingress protection level. The second slot with the numeric character “5” denotes the level of water ingress protection. Here is a chart from ISO showing what each numerical character means for future reference. Thanks for the video. f2labs.com/technotes/2018/01/05/ip69-vs-ip69k/
Both good, stradic should lay line better. saragosa more easy to service your self.Id go a daiwa bg hq and save some money but you need a special tool to service them, or a spinfisher vi which is half the price water resistant brass gears on( bigger models) easy to service. cheers from Jake
An extra bearing and a drag washer are the biggest internal differences. The gearing is identical. The spool is slightly different, being a little taller. Cosmetics and handle knob on the exterior. For the price difference you could spool a gosa with decent braid.
the x in IPX has nothing to do with impact resistance like you said. Just think about it, how does changing the line roller change design to give it IPX8 as you think. The line roller has nothing to do with water ingress into the body
@@tommo2777 I ended up buying both and I like them both. The saragosa is smoother and better sealed. The slammer feels like a hot rod and I know people love the penn. I think the gosa will last longer. Their sizes are NOT relative. My saragosa 10000 is as small or smaller than my penn slammer 6500. The 10000 is not too big at all. The clicker on the gosa is also the best I’ve ever heard. The slammer has more drag, but I doubt you can hold all the drag that the gosa has to offer.
Thank you for idea 💡 and tips sorry thus is not a waste of time for the newby like me its very big helpful like now so i have idea i learn about the reel and to the other vlog for fihshing like this thank you so much guys keep making the video like this tips idea to help the other like me newby... thank you God bless stay safe
I bought 14000XD last week and then found that there is no clip to tie the line as it is available in other models, have noticed the clip is not available in any of the reels which are over $300 or $400. Is there any particular reasons for not providing a line tying clip on a reel ?
Hi Pankaj, they don't put the the clip on them as it is another point for water to get inside the reel. Also as most of the reels used to cast lures a line clip would be another point to catch line and snap you off.
I am looking for latest model sargosa 6000. So which one is the best for both shore fishing ? Sargosa or stradic ? Brother can you please suggest me a better one for buy
It looks like only some of the sizes have decreased weight of approx. .3 of an ounce, although shimano has the 10000 size listed at 24.3 oz for both sw and swa on their website?
I actually quite like the knob that comes with the Saragosa, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but a if you prefer using a power knob then no reason why you can't put one on. Personal preference I think, not a necessity but not going to hurt!
This is a high speed reel so is probably more suited to cast and retrieve applications. That's not to say you can't use it for slow jigging, but a reel with a lower gear ratio is probably going to be a bit more suitable :)
I hate to say it but... using actual 100 percent whale oil, will lubricate your reel far beyond any existing product and make your reel far beyond smooth, glide like a oil on a hot pan. Will make it feel and work better than any 1000 dollar reel.
Well that was almost a waste of time you reviewing the reel. Hardly anything technical at all. If you want a thorough breakdown of this reel go to Alan Hawks review channel. He is brilliant.
Hey mate each to their own! Alan Hawke definitely knows what he is talking about, but not everyone understands the technical stuff. Some people definitely prefer layman's terms.
@@curtiswatermanfishing I agree mate but if are are going to be doing a reel review for a fishing magazine you should know something about it. He provides wrong info on the IPX ratings & then goes onto say he thinks that is because of the line roller? Wtf really? like roller stops egress of water into the reel? No idea what he is on about
@@minicopilot1 I am not saying that they are bad reels, but they are over rated. They also suffer from poor quality control like most other reel manufacturers. My 6000 developed a knocking feel on the first outing. I opened it up and found that the brass bush in the osselating gear got stuck in the gear and was spinning on the frame (gear mount). The 8000 still have the annoying wobble in the rotor. I have since managed to balance the rotor, and that makes a huge difference. The 10 000 that is exactly the same reel as the 8000 except for the bigger spool and different main gear( lower gear ratio) has got horrible line lay. Shimano changed the gear ratio but kept the osselating speed the same. The wobbling rotor is less noticeable because of the lower speed. Al three of them have that geary feeling and are just not as smooth as my Daiwas. Unfortunately I can not post the photos that I took of the damaged bush and the 10 000's line lay. If you can find me on Facebook, send me a DM and I will forward the photos.
I put the 10K for surface crystal minnows and 18K for diving crystal minnows on trolling rods behind the sailboat and couldn't be happier - uluas, onos, and shibis on a regular basis! Lost the 10K overboard and had to dive in and retrieve it 15' underwater, opened her up and bone dry. Love these reels, absolute beasts.
Wish it wasn't so windy, just bought the 14000, Cant wait to try the dog out
Need to owe a dog to catch a dog...? Get the Dog
Ingress Protection (IP) ratings are for liquid resistance not waterproofing. An IP rating of 8 is "Protected against submersion (under conditions specified by the manufacturer)". However, this is not a submersible reel. You can't reel with it underwater because it will take in water. It's only for quick dunks not skishing. IP 8 also does not denote corrosion resistance, durability or longevity of a reel. Those are separate factors that vary from reel makes and models.
Sir what is process to buy a saragosa spinning reel 10000 series I am from India iam live in andaman& nicobar island please tell me the process please answer comment thanks
Good review. Thanks brother. FYI The first number in an IP rating is for dust ingress protection and the second digit is for water ingress protection. The character x is just a placeholder and means nothing. IP ratings have nothing to do with impact resistance unless you are talking about the molecules of dust and water literally impacting the reel. It sounded as if you were saying the reel is stronger from a structural standpoint if it carried an IPX rating and that is not true. It’s good to understand these ratings as I see more and more commercial applications advertising these ratings now. Previously I had only seen these ratings when specifying high end industrial electrical/mechanical components working as an engineer. That being said it’s important to understand what these numerical characters mean. In summary IP ratings explain the level of dust and water protection that an engineered product has. First numeric character after the characters “I” “P”is for dust. The next numeric character is for water. So in an IP65 rating the slot that the numeric character “6” occupies explains an engineered product’s dust ingress protection level. The second slot with the numeric character “5” denotes the level of water ingress protection. Here is a chart from ISO showing what each numerical character means for future reference. Thanks for the video.
f2labs.com/technotes/2018/01/05/ip69-vs-ip69k/
What are the differences between Saragosa Vs Stradic SW?
Id say the stradic has a worm drive oscillation were the gosa has locomotive oscillation.
@@hownowbrowntrouttasmania7389 So what that means Saragosa is better or Stradic?
Both good, stradic should lay line better. saragosa more easy to service your self.Id go a daiwa bg hq and save some money but you need a special tool to service them, or a spinfisher vi which is half the price water resistant brass gears on( bigger models) easy to service. cheers from Jake
An extra bearing and a drag washer are the biggest internal differences. The gearing is identical. The spool is slightly different, being a little taller. Cosmetics and handle knob on the exterior. For the price difference you could spool a gosa with decent braid.
Good review mate! Bought this reel in 6000 today, will see how it goes. It's ultra smooth
Hope you enjoy it!
Can’t wait.excited to buy.But still not available here my place.
Shouldn't be too far away!
I just got one and it makes a little noise, is that normal?
the x in IPX has nothing to do with impact resistance like you said. Just think about it, how does changing the line roller change design to give it IPX8 as you think. The line roller has nothing to do with water ingress into the body
Question what rods were you using what this Saragosa fishing from the boat jigging with what name brand and what is rated for
I just bought a zeikel bloodline 4-8. Was $300 got it for $200 in the sale. Keep an eye on their rods although always sold out so be quick
Hi John, in the video I was using the Shimano Game Type J and its a PE4. They're an absolute ripper!
I am leaning towards the saragosa over the penn slammer. Your thoughts?
same what did you buy
@@tommo2777 I ended up buying both and I like them both. The saragosa is smoother and better sealed. The slammer feels like a hot rod and I know people love the penn. I think the gosa will last longer. Their sizes are NOT relative. My saragosa 10000 is as small or smaller than my penn slammer 6500. The 10000 is not too big at all. The clicker on the gosa is also the best I’ve ever heard. The slammer has more drag, but I doubt you can hold all the drag that the gosa has to offer.
Hi there, Which size of saragosa’s equivalent to penn spinfisher 7500?
youre gonna want something around saragosa 10k bc shimano runs smaller
Thank you for idea 💡 and tips sorry thus is not a waste of time for the newby like me its very big helpful like now so i have idea i learn about the reel and to the other vlog for fihshing like this thank you so much guys keep making the video like this tips idea to help the other like me newby... thank you God bless stay safe
I bought 14000XD last week and then found that there is no clip to tie the line as it is available in other models, have noticed the clip is not available in any of the reels which are over $300 or $400. Is there any particular reasons for not providing a line tying clip on a reel ?
Hi Pankaj, they don't put the the clip on them as it is another point for water to get inside the reel. Also as most of the reels used to cast lures a line clip would be another point to catch line and snap you off.
I am looking for latest model sargosa 6000.
So which one is the best for both shore fishing ? Sargosa or stradic ?
Brother can you please suggest me a better one for buy
What size is the one you are holding
This one was a 5000 size
It looks like only some of the sizes have decreased weight of approx. .3 of an ounce, although shimano has the 10000 size listed at 24.3 oz for both sw and swa on their website?
The listed weights for the old models are wrong
What's it like compared to bgmq
Would you recommend a power knob
I actually quite like the knob that comes with the Saragosa, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but a if you prefer using a power knob then no reason why you can't put one on. Personal preference I think, not a necessity but not going to hurt!
Is is suitable for slow jig?
This is a high speed reel so is probably more suited to cast and retrieve applications. That's not to say you can't use it for slow jigging, but a reel with a lower gear ratio is probably going to be a bit more suitable :)
This reel is for professional angler.
20000sw new version is about 100 grams heavier then old. 935g for the new one old one 820g
Yikes, what was that orange fish with the teeth at 1:55? Wow was gorgeous
Y my gosa's drag is hard to adjust?unlike the other spinning reels. is that normal?
I think its the rubber seal under the drag knob which dose this.
Looks almost identical to the new Stradic SW.
Thanks to you now i know that exists a Stradic Sw. The Stradic just a bit lighter. A comparison is a must between the two.
10 year warranty???
I hate to say it but... using actual 100 percent whale oil, will lubricate your reel far beyond any existing product and make your reel far beyond smooth, glide like a oil on a hot pan. Will make it feel and work better than any 1000 dollar reel.
Shimano always over stated their max drag , other than that they are amazing
Example the stella stated 20+ kilos max grad but in reality max only reach 17kg
Well that was almost a waste of time you reviewing the reel. Hardly anything technical at all. If you want a thorough breakdown of this reel go to Alan Hawks review channel. He is brilliant.
Hey mate each to their own! Alan Hawke definitely knows what he is talking about, but not everyone understands the technical stuff. Some people definitely prefer layman's terms.
@@curtiswatermanfishing I agree mate but if are are going to be doing a reel review for a fishing magazine you should know something about it. He provides wrong info on the IPX ratings & then goes onto say he thinks that is because of the line roller? Wtf really? like roller stops egress of water into the reel? No idea what he is on about
Saragosa 👌🏻💎💎💎🎣👌🏻
Free Shimano Saragosa give away pleaseeee
That reel is far from a 'budget model' Curt 😂😂😂😂
Lmao on the ip rating :))
Sip, mantab gaes,,,,, no money mau beli ,,,haaaaa
I rather buy ajiking
Stella.....👍👍👍
Saragosa......🤪🤪🤪
Each to their own!
We call the Saragosa, "Stellagosa" here in New Zealand lol..
I have both and both are great values
Not worth it
I bought a 10 000, 8000 and 6000 and I agree with you. Overhyped and over priced!
Then what is in this price category of $300-400.00 dollars US?
@@minicopilot1 I am not saying that they are bad reels, but they are over rated. They also suffer from poor quality control like most other reel manufacturers. My 6000 developed a knocking feel on the first outing. I opened it up and found that the brass bush in the osselating gear got stuck in the gear and was spinning on the frame (gear mount).
The 8000 still have the annoying wobble in the rotor. I have since managed to balance the rotor, and that makes a huge difference.
The 10 000 that is exactly the same reel as the 8000 except for the bigger spool and different main gear( lower gear ratio) has got horrible line lay. Shimano changed the gear ratio but kept the osselating speed the same. The wobbling rotor is less noticeable because of the lower speed.
Al three of them have that geary feeling and are just not as smooth as my Daiwas. Unfortunately I can not post the photos that I took of the damaged bush and the 10 000's line lay. If you can find me on Facebook, send me a DM and I will forward the photos.