+RockmanVX Oh hi, Peter. Sorry, man. I don't know you. Don't bother me. Peter, you betray me you're not good, you just a chicken! Cheep, cheep, cheep, cheeeeep.
You know what would have made this movie amazing? An end credit stinger, the limo driving away with "just married" on the back, and then the girl says "oh, by the way, I'm sterile." Womp-womp.
So, I actually went through an emotionally abusive relationship. And while it's not quite full on abusive in the movie, there were just certain things Clay does and says that's just eerie. The way he wants to control the pace of the relationship, control the extent of it and what they do, and the whole box she made actually bugged me a lot because it was solely to cater to him when he's shown no interest in really catering to her. The nail polish line freaking floored me. Forcing others to basically pay for his own past mistakes, this whole movie- and bare in mind I'm pretty conservative on my own- was a freaking horror movie made more horrifying by the way they portray it with a "happy" ending.
Yeah after going through an abusive relationship mentally. I can say that. Anything and everything in this movie. Somehow seems like what I went through was just water under the bridge. It's weird.
San Dan i remember being equally angry as well when i saw this movie too, this movie can make the human race finally work in harmony as we smash copies of this movie together
This movie would have been so much better if there had been a credits scene of him digging a hole and then jumping ahead in time to him opening a new antiques shop in a new town and another quirky girl enters. Basically if it had revealed Clay was a serial killer.
That would have been so believable, especially given the line about the aunt pretending to be dead. He acts like a murderous stalker out of a Mary Higgins Clark thriller.
No joke, if that was the ending, this would become one of the best thrillers ever made, kind of like how Straight Story's ending changed it from bad to great.
Yea, I usually agree with them on how horrible these faith movies are, but this one wasn't that bad. (War room and Saving Christmas were the absolute worst)
I disagree that the most taboo moment was a kiss on the cheek. The most taboo moment was when the most stuck up misogynistic character makes out with his ex girlfriend while he won't even allow himself to be in the same room as the girl he supposedly wants to have babies with on the first date. (Talk about a run on sentence).
+Katiara Blackdawn It is extremely sexist and unrealistic. As for a job... I don't know, and I'm not going to consider possibilities, because that would be giving this plot way more attention and thought than it deserves. +fahd s Truly "chivalrous" or "good" guys would just be able to behave themselves around women. If they don't want a reputation as someone who sleeps around (fear of that rep is why this sort of thing is taught)... then they should be modest and decent human beings, and not give reason to think that's what they do. Because, as you've said, this is just too extreme (in fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would hurt this Clay guy's reputation way more if people heard "He forced me out of my own home because he's a religious pansy nutcase" than if they heard "He came over and fixed my stove.").
I think Cinema Snob is right in saying there's a happy medium in the Christian response to "Fifty Shades of Grey." I can understand how more conservative people are unsettled at the way some modern movies and TV glorify cheap sex and superficial examples of love, but probably the worst way to react to that is to try and teach people that censorship is the way to go. Rules, rules rules. NO sex. NO kissing. NO dating. NO arguing. One of my top five favorite films is "You've Got Mail" with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. You realize - there's no sex and only one single kiss between the two main characters in the entire film, yet it's not because they made rules or even had dating guidelines in their heads. They legitimately developed a strong bond through communication and an unlikely friendship that led them to a place of romantic connection. I like seeing movies like that, which herald true, genuine connections between people.
Completely agree. "You've Got Mail" is basically what this movie should have tried to be. That is how you build a good relationship and it doesn't focus on sex. Yet it feels so much more solid and well done than this horrible movie. They didn't have dumb rules in that movie, the relationship just built up over time and it worked. The guy staring in this movie should be embarrassed that he made such a horrible thing and tried to make it sound good. Nothing in this movie was old fashioned outside of the bad parts of old fashioned. You know overly controlling and not giving women any say in what they do. The MC in this movie is a monster.
True, you show me any couple who never argues, with an overly accepting partner, and I get a strong sense of impending doom. Healthy couples argue constructively, compromise, and forgive, not just go along for the sake of a "happy relationship."
+Tenebyss That has happened a lot. Look at the Pierre Kirby page, it credits him for appearing in a bunch of Brad's videos because Brad gave Pierre Kirby credit.
I absolutely love all the comments here from Christians and conservatives backing them up on this being insane. First of all, it says some great things about them that they'd sit and watch two snarky atheists bash a Christian film to begin with, and more so that they would agree with them. It gives me hope that there's a middle ground for all of us.
This is one of the best Midnight Screenings because it's almost two different videos in one... Brad reviewing the movie, and Dave riffing a review of a movie.
The thing about these movies is summed up when Brad says, "I've known so many religious people, and this doesn't happen," (I paraphrase). If people agree with the absurd mentality of these kinds of movies in the name of Christianity, then they're just bad Christians.
I went to a private christian college for a time and at that school there were rules about men and women being alone with each other in the same apartment or dorm or whatever. At least in that place, it made sense. This was meant to control the horndog college kids and help them avoid the temptation to fuck. It didn't work usually. Certainly didn't work for my girlfriend at the time and I. But in this movie, we're talking about grown ass adults; a 40-something year old man and a 30-something year old woman! It really isn't right in the context of this movie. This sounds awful. I belong to a church with some pretty conservative ideas about marriage, sexuality, and fidelity, but this is beyond the pale.
What gets me is that religious people assume homosexuality doesn’t exist until it’s a choice. Men and women can’t be alone together because the guy won’t be able to help himself and might not give her consent. But 2 guys or 2 girls isn’t a problem. I can’t imagine how many people had their first coming out or gay experience at a religious retreat. I’m straight, but I’m also not blind. If religion works for you, fine. But if I can mock the very thing that ruined my life, I will. Nothing personal. I just gave up things that hurt me.
you forgot the part where Clay's all "when did respecting women become a joke?" when confronting the stripper. where does this guy get off? you literally told Amber "my rules, my way" when you finally agreed to go on a date. she has absolutely no say in anything
The difference between this and 50 Shades is... A. 50 Shades was based off a really popular book branching from an already popular franchise B. There was way more marketing for 50 Shades. I don't remember seeing ANY commercials or ads for Old Fashioned. C. There are dozens of sexless romantic movies on DVD, Netflix, etc.
As a Christian myself, I am all for a romantic movie where the couple gets to know each other before they have sex, because IMO that trope is overdone, but wow, this movie is horrible!
This "won't be in a room with a girl thing" is incredibly disrespectful to women. It insinuates that the only reason you'd ever be alone in a room with a girl would be to inseminate her.
when he describes how he walked out of the movie, all hunched and stuff and what the guy from the movie theater said to him after hearing he watched old fashion...i had to stop the vid, i was laughing so hard ! XDD i m catholic, was raised in a kindergarten run by nuns (!) and went to a catholic school afterwards....and i was creeped out by old fashion!^^ THATS how creepy this shitty flic was! ^^
28:46 Not sure if anyone else has said this yet but the book they were looking for is called "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" the red yellow green thing came from that.
By the way Brad described the flashbacks to the Girls Gone Wild parts, sounds like the movie portrayed it like the ass to ass scene from "Requiem For a Dream". XD
I work at a theater so I saw the poster for this and even a few clips of it while inspecting the auditorium it was in. It actually looked kinda cute and I do like the idea of a movie that promotes chivalry and good manners in a relationship. ....So disappointed to see that is NOT at all what this movie is about. Instead it's basically shaming anyone who's in a BASIC relationship by claiming that dating is only an excuse to have sex. Also I had no idea it was religious propaganda until this review. The poster gave NO indication of that. It had even won a film festival award! Which one I don't know so that really shoulda tipped me off XD
Yes, I can attest to Old Fashioned being meant to be the christian counter to Fifty Shades, of course it fails horribly. Both movies, from a feminist perspective have the exact same problems. Both involve a girl meeting a guy who disregards what the girl wants in a relationship to impose his non-conventional ideal relationship onto her. In the end, Fifty Shades becomes the film with the better message because (excluding sequels) Ana acknowledges that her relationship isn't addressing her own needs and actually leaves! This movie was trying to be a rebuttal to 50 shades, but in the end, just became the Pure Flix parallel. But this reveals the problem with how the evangelical movement prioritizes relationship qualities. It's not wrong to refuse to meet your partner in the middle so that you both are getting your relational needs met, it's only wrong if you have extra/pre-marital sex.
Summed it up really well. Evangelical purity culture standards of sexual ethics and healthy relationships aren't so much about consent and boundaries and power dynamics and who's getting their needs met equally, as much as "are we doing the correct gender roles" and "is Bad Sinful Sex involved".
Our pastor did the same thing to my mom when she was a volunteer that women can't be alone with a man unless there are more than one of them. My mom is married and in her 50's so... yeah.
I'm amazed that this film has some 10/10 reviews on imdb and people praise it on how much chemistry the characters have and how realistic their relationship is. Were they watching the same thing?
Usually, PureFlix movies are watchable because they're guilty pleasures, and you can laugh at most of them. Then there's Old Fashioned. I literally just finished the DVD, and it was more cringey than funny.
Funniest thing is that Brad has probably seen more of these Christian pieces of crap that should have NEVER seen a theatrical release than actual Christians.
+deathskilledreaper Yeah, there's Rock: It's Your Decision, Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas, and this movie form of WTF. The male lead in this movie is just as bad and unlikable as Jeff from Rock: It's Your Decision.
deathskilledreaper I've seen it on the day it was posted. That's why I've watched this Midnight Screening episode. Just to see Brad out of character after he saw this crap for the first time.
38:33 : - Can't you fucking be NORMAL!? - Noo, I can't do _that_! God, Brad's inflection on the response in that exchange was so fucking funny ;). Of COURSE he can't be normal, that will never do ;).
Brad and Dave, many cats can take to leashes just fine. My cat and many others even play fetch. Mine "asks" me to play fetch with her about five times a day!
*laughs* I was raised Mormon (it screwed my life up in a lot of ways. still recovering.) And yeah- dudes really aren't supposed to be alone with women. Missionaries are specifically trained *not* to be. And my bro-in-law didn't kiss my sister til they were married... I'm not saying it's normal I'm just saying, yeah, it's a thing in some communities
+MegaRambit Mainly as a means of preserving public image. Most of the time, we don't want to give anyone the possibility of thinking less of us, so we can be a testimony for Christ. This includes being alone with women who we aren't married to. I personally think it's stupid (assuming everyone around you thinks you are a serial rapist waiting to strike isn't a healthy mindset, not to mention it's degrading to women in a few ways), but you are right, this mindset is very much a thing.
I think the dating thing is perfectly reasonable. I didn't want to waste my time on hookups and relationships that don't mean anything either. Some people want commitment.
In my opinion, I rather date someone and get to know them. That's the reason of dating, you got find the meaning in someone. Commitment is another ballpark.
I checked out the trailer for this movie after I saw this video, and even the trailer made me uncomfortable. Oh and Brad is very right about the 40 year old guy with Justin Beiber hair. It was fucking gross.
Brad reminds me, strongly, of a coworker I used to work with. Similar looks and mannerisms that all these videos make me feel like I'm back in Japan talking with said coworker. That aside, this movie did not execute the "old fashioned" theme very well.
Oh my fuck, I think I found the book they used: The dirt on sex by Justin Lookadoo He wrote the book Dateable that was passed around my church when I was in high school. Vile and absolutely in the same lane as this movie lol
I wonder how many people at my old job tried returning this movie. I explained it to some degree to customers and they looked at me in utter confusion.
+Alex Ferguson No, no, no, this is what the fanatics who make these films think proper romance is. This film is not a reflection of the beliefs of the general Christian community.
I understand. But other people will mistaken these movies as what Christians believe that things should be without realizing that these are made by arrogant, angry people who think they're in the right.
Edward and Bella's relationship actually meets ALL of the points listed on the National Domestic Violence hotline for being in an abusive relationship. I'm 100% certain this movie's relationship does too...
I have seen so few religious movies and some of these recent midnight screenings I've seen have made me quite thankful of that fact and I feel like the snob is like jumping on holy hand grenades for us all to save us from this kind of tripe. thanks snob I'm just going to watch Jesus Christ vampire hunter again i just found on utube and is just enough religion for me i think lol check it out.
I'd sit through this Abomination of a movie if only for the chance to see Clay get the shit kicked out of him by The Kerry King looking Bodyguard after screwing the Stripper out of her tips...too bad it never happens. For some reason,if I ever watch this shitstorm I will Rifftrax the Hell out of it with some friends and a Lot -Read volumes- of Drink....(and I don't drink much....) Good video,Brad.
Honestly, I think this would have been how my dad probably wished he'd met my mom. Although, falling off a motorcycle because you're trying to be Peter Fonda in Easy Rider (he was the furthest thing from a hippie) and ending up meeting his wife, who was literally his nurse, probably worked really well for him too. Obviously she left because of all the abuse, after over 20 years. But he even got a girl to break up with me by constantly telling her whenever she went into the kitchen to see my mom that she was "in training." By that he meant having spaghetti thrown at her because he hated that, and because he didn't get his tea with dinner. Timing was everything.
I was raised Christian and I have turned from it and I have huge hate for Christianity. Don't get me wrong though, I've scrolled through the posts of this section and I have seen both "Christian's" and--in the word's of Terry Pratchett--religious people whom believe in people and I approve of the latter very much.
That Hillsong movie actually had a bit of a distributor juggling act. Back in 2014, Warner Bros. was set to release it but then Warner dropped it in early January 2015 before it was picked up by Relativity Media for a 2015 release, but then Relativity got bankrupt and dropped it, anong other movies. Now,according to Box Office Mojo, the Hillsong movie is set to be released by the Patron Saint of Crappy Faith Movies aka Pure Flix in September.
"It's The Room of Christian films!" YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, JESUS!
+RockmanVX haha, what a story, God
+RockmanVX Oh hi, Peter.
Sorry, man. I don't know you. Don't bother me.
Peter, you betray me you're not good, you just a chicken! Cheep, cheep, cheep, cheeeeep.
I'M FED OP WITH DIS WORLD!!
+RockmanVX Oh HAI JUDAS, HOW'S YOUR SEX LIAFE?
+docdave15 Let's go eat my flesh HUAH!
"If this movie speaks to you in any way, have fun dieing alone" Holy shit I love you Brad
You know what would have made this movie amazing?
An end credit stinger, the limo driving away with "just married" on the back, and then the girl says "oh, by the way, I'm sterile." Womp-womp.
That would horrible, because then the movie would legitimately become a slasher movie
Oh so this is how Mike Pence met his wife
As an American, I'm ashamed of certain celebrities.
As a Texan, I'm ashamed of certain politicians.
As a Christian, I'm ashamed of certain movies.
+David Reeder You're one of the good ones.
Why, Thank You.
Ha! Amen to that!
+David Reeder How thoughtful.
+David Reeder I am a atheist and i approve this message.
Brad making fun of the audience member with his angry/disgusted laugh has to be one of the most delightful insults I've witnessed
+Otto T sounds like how Brian was talking about the guy chucking it up at Grown Ups 2...
I'll go check and compare ~
absolutely agree
So, I actually went through an emotionally abusive relationship. And while it's not quite full on abusive in the movie, there were just certain things Clay does and says that's just eerie. The way he wants to control the pace of the relationship, control the extent of it and what they do, and the whole box she made actually bugged me a lot because it was solely to cater to him when he's shown no interest in really catering to her. The nail polish line freaking floored me. Forcing others to basically pay for his own past mistakes, this whole movie- and bare in mind I'm pretty conservative on my own- was a freaking horror movie made more horrifying by the way they portray it with a "happy" ending.
Hope things are going better now, Jessica.
Hope you’re ok
Yeah after going through an abusive relationship mentally. I can say that. Anything and everything in this movie. Somehow seems like what I went through was just water under the bridge. It's weird.
Brad's actual ANGER over this movie gives me life.
San Dan i remember being equally angry as well when i saw this movie too, this movie can make the human race finally work in harmony as we smash copies of this movie together
@@crimsondynamo615 We will all dance and sing in merriment as all the DVDs burn
Buuurn baby burn DVD INFERNO!
Someone put this movie under "Horror Movies" on Wikipedia, and I fell out of my chair laughing.
BBAgirl1988 well they’re not wrong
No you didn't
Every time I go into Barnes & Noble and see Twilight in the Horror section of the DVDs, I laugh. It's just too perfect.
It doesn't sound like "chivalry". It's passive/aggressive, borderline abusive and controlling behavior.
i'm pretty sure that's how the guy who made this movie is like in real life
This movie would have been so much better if there had been a credits scene of him digging a hole and then jumping ahead in time to him opening a new antiques shop in a new town and another quirky girl enters. Basically if it had revealed Clay was a serial killer.
That one twist would've made the movie brilliant horror/satire instead of just...this totally un-selfaware nightmare.
That would have been so believable, especially given the line about the aunt pretending to be dead. He acts like a murderous stalker out of a Mary Higgins Clark thriller.
No joke, if that was the ending, this would become one of the best thrillers ever made, kind of like how Straight Story's ending changed it from bad to great.
Actually, Old-Fashioned does speak to me. It says this is NOT how a relationship works.
+Annabelle Aldaco Amen to that.
+Princess Ribbon "how to tell if your landlord is insane"
Check out my playlist Still A Better Love Story Than Old Fashioned
Yea, I usually agree with them on how horrible these faith movies are, but this one wasn't that bad. (War room and Saving Christmas were the absolute worst)
But which would be worse - Old Fashioned or Twilight?
just watched the movie with my partner and our theory is that he's a creeper serial killer and his great aunt is helping him disappear the bodies.
Maybe he dismembers them in the workshop. I'd easily buy that he kills women that stand up to him and show individuality....
He's a john doe religious killer
I disagree that the most taboo moment was a kiss on the cheek. The most taboo moment was when the most stuck up misogynistic character makes out with his ex girlfriend while he won't even allow himself to be in the same room as the girl he supposedly wants to have babies with on the first date. (Talk about a run on sentence).
One of my favorite reviews for just how angry Brad gets.
Making a vow never to be in a room alone with a woman (before marriage) is NOT romantic. It is weird as hell lolSeriously, that's too extreme.
+fahd s Its sexist and unrealistic, how does this weirdo expect to get a job?
+Katiara Blackdawn It is extremely sexist and unrealistic.
As for a job... I don't know, and I'm not going to consider possibilities, because that would be giving this plot way more attention and thought than it deserves.
+fahd s Truly "chivalrous" or "good" guys would just be able to behave themselves around women. If they don't want a reputation as someone who sleeps around (fear of that rep is why this sort of thing is taught)... then they should be modest and decent human beings, and not give reason to think that's what they do. Because, as you've said, this is just too extreme (in fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would hurt this Clay guy's reputation way more if people heard "He forced me out of my own home because he's a religious pansy nutcase" than if they heard "He came over and fixed my stove.").
Yeah, I think that would actually be more creepy and off-putting. I'd be thinking, "Is this guy a sex offender or something?"
I think Cinema Snob is right in saying there's a happy medium in the Christian response to "Fifty Shades of Grey." I can understand how more conservative people are unsettled at the way some modern movies and TV glorify cheap sex and superficial examples of love, but probably the worst way to react to that is to try and teach people that censorship is the way to go. Rules, rules rules. NO sex. NO kissing. NO dating. NO arguing. One of my top five favorite films is "You've Got Mail" with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. You realize - there's no sex and only one single kiss between the two main characters in the entire film, yet it's not because they made rules or even had dating guidelines in their heads. They legitimately developed a strong bond through communication and an unlikely friendship that led them to a place of romantic connection. I like seeing movies like that, which herald true, genuine connections between people.
+mintyhobbit But who doesn't like seeing those movies? Besides the people that made this movie.
Completely agree. "You've Got Mail" is basically what this movie should have tried to be. That is how you build a good relationship and it doesn't focus on sex. Yet it feels so much more solid and well done than this horrible movie. They didn't have dumb rules in that movie, the relationship just built up over time and it worked.
The guy staring in this movie should be embarrassed that he made such a horrible thing and tried to make it sound good. Nothing in this movie was old fashioned outside of the bad parts of old fashioned. You know overly controlling and not giving women any say in what they do. The MC in this movie is a monster.
It seems the success of the romance is due to a relationship that starts with mutual respect.
True, you show me any couple who never argues, with an overly accepting partner, and I get a strong sense of impending doom. Healthy couples argue constructively, compromise, and forgive, not just go along for the sake of a "happy relationship."
Somebody crossed "How Can I tell if I'm Really In Love" with "Rock It's Your Decision"!
+Tareltonlives Crossed with "The Room"
+Sho'Nuff Da Masta "I WISH!"
Tareltonlives UR TEARING ME UHPART!!!
+Tareltonlives So its "Really in Love, It's Your Decision". "Or Rock, Your Really in Love". whatever.
Check out my playlist Still A Better Love Story Than Old Fashioned
The redhead at the flower shop in this is gorgeous as hell, and consistently makes fun of the romance in this. So there's a ray of sunshine
Oh i agree. I especially like her funny face expressions.
Of course you love her, she’s sarah
Wikipedia now has Brad cited as a review of this movie lol
+Tenebyss That has happened a lot. Look at the Pierre Kirby page, it credits him for appearing in a bunch of Brad's videos because Brad gave Pierre Kirby credit.
I love how Brad is sort of famous
+Tenebyss Where?
+Tenebyss And it later got updated to mention the Snob review.
Think someone took his review bit off, what I find funny is that Wikipedia has also listed it as an 'American Horror film'
"Star 80 is a better romance than this movie!" *died from laughter*
I absolutely love all the comments here from Christians and conservatives backing them up on this being insane. First of all, it says some great things about them that they'd sit and watch two snarky atheists bash a Christian film to begin with, and more so that they would agree with them. It gives me hope that there's a middle ground for all of us.
This is one of the best Midnight Screenings because it's almost two different videos in one... Brad reviewing the movie, and Dave riffing a review of a movie.
The thing about these movies is summed up when Brad says, "I've known so many religious people, and this doesn't happen," (I paraphrase). If people agree with the absurd mentality of these kinds of movies in the name of Christianity, then they're just bad Christians.
I went to a private christian college for a time and at that school there were rules about men and women being alone with each other in the same apartment or dorm or whatever. At least in that place, it made sense. This was meant to control the horndog college kids and help them avoid the temptation to fuck. It didn't work usually. Certainly didn't work for my girlfriend at the time and I. But in this movie, we're talking about grown ass adults; a 40-something year old man and a 30-something year old woman! It really isn't right in the context of this movie. This sounds awful. I belong to a church with some pretty conservative ideas about marriage, sexuality, and fidelity, but this is beyond the pale.
What gets me is that religious people assume homosexuality doesn’t exist until it’s a choice. Men and women can’t be alone together because the guy won’t be able to help himself and might not give her consent. But 2 guys or 2 girls isn’t a problem. I can’t imagine how many people had their first coming out or gay experience at a religious retreat. I’m straight, but I’m also not blind. If religion works for you, fine. But if I can mock the very thing that ruined my life, I will. Nothing personal. I just gave up things that hurt me.
you forgot the part where Clay's all "when did respecting women become a joke?" when confronting the stripper. where does this guy get off? you literally told Amber "my rules, my way" when you finally agreed to go on a date. she has absolutely no say in anything
Respecting women apparently doesn’t include allowing them agency. Can’t be anything but a chaste mother in that world
Clay not being able to be in the same room alone with a woman... This is now our Vice President Pence.
O_o
I could not think of a more telltale sign of a potential rapist if I _tried._
Lindsay......Ellis? I would have *LOVED* to have seen her reaction.
I would pay money for her to review this
One or two twists and this could become a horror movie...
+Gregory House TBH probably only needs one or two score changes
lol Wikipedia has actually listed it as such
That probably would have saved the movie.
Can we get 50 Shades listed as one now because the only reason it's considered hot is that Christian is rich as fuck
It already is
The difference between this and 50 Shades is...
A. 50 Shades was based off a really popular book branching from an already popular franchise
B. There was way more marketing for 50 Shades. I don't remember seeing ANY commercials or ads for Old Fashioned.
C. There are dozens of sexless romantic movies on DVD, Netflix, etc.
After watching this and the Snob review of the movie itself, I simply had to go watch Deadpool. There's a real romance movie!
"Cat on a Leash" sounds like a good name for a movie.
Walking a Cat on a leash.
As a Christian myself, I am all for a romantic movie where the couple gets to know each other before they have sex, because IMO that trope is overdone, but wow, this movie is horrible!
I've listened to this several times over since 2019, and it hit me: this man of faith in this movie makes H.P. Lovecraft seem like the Marquis De Saad
This "won't be in a room with a girl thing" is incredibly disrespectful to women. It insinuates that the only reason you'd ever be alone in a room with a girl would be to inseminate her.
No, it's to protect you in court, if 40 years from now a woman accuses you of groping her.
Albert Giesbrecht 😂😂😂😂
@@visaman did you grope someone?
It’s also a view of women that they are irresistible . Men are helpless against They tempt and corrupt men against
Men. Men bear no responsibility. It’s all Eve’s fault.
when he describes how he walked out of the movie, all hunched and stuff and what the guy from the movie theater said to him after hearing he watched old fashion...i had to stop the vid, i was laughing so hard ! XDD
i m catholic, was raised in a kindergarten run by nuns (!) and went to a catholic school afterwards....and i was creeped out by old fashion!^^ THATS how creepy this shitty flic was! ^^
***** either that or offering the audience free barf bags and therapy afterwards ;)
You have no idea how hard I laughed at "this makes A Walk to Remember look like 9 1/2 Weeks"
I let out a a big barking laugh when Brad said, "Do you wanna hear about the bachelor party scene?"
28:46 Not sure if anyone else has said this yet but the book they were looking for is called "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" the red yellow green thing came from that.
Kingsman would be a great date movie
I can tell you from experience, it was ;)
Hey this movie really speaks to me.
"Really? What does it say?"
It says, 'Now I'm gonna hate this movie twice as hard.'
By the way Brad described the flashbacks to the Girls Gone Wild parts, sounds like the movie portrayed it like the ass to ass scene from "Requiem For a Dream". XD
Someone needs to make a fan edit of those scenes spliced in with the ass to ass and shock treatment
... you do that. XD
Can't. Need a laptop after my computer bought the farm
+Mike White Just a joke duse.
+Mike White Just a joke dude.
I thought the final marriage proposal was even worse than the one with the friend. Who on earth proposes in a baby food aisle?!
+Nocturnalux Morons/nutcases who think they're being cute, when they're actually being bloody creepy.
The guy who laughed at the chocolate joke is probably the same guy who laughed at the gastric bypass footage when I was watching Supersize Me
I work at a theater so I saw the poster for this and even a few clips of it while inspecting the auditorium it was in. It actually looked kinda cute and I do like the idea of a movie that promotes chivalry and good manners in a relationship. ....So disappointed to see that is NOT at all what this movie is about. Instead it's basically shaming anyone who's in a BASIC relationship by claiming that dating is only an excuse to have sex. Also I had no idea it was religious propaganda until this review. The poster gave NO indication of that. It had even won a film festival award! Which one I don't know so that really shoulda tipped me off XD
Yes, I can attest to Old Fashioned being meant to be the christian counter to Fifty Shades, of course it fails horribly. Both movies, from a feminist perspective have the exact same problems. Both involve a girl meeting a guy who disregards what the girl wants in a relationship to impose his non-conventional ideal relationship onto her. In the end, Fifty Shades becomes the film with the better message because (excluding sequels) Ana acknowledges that her relationship isn't addressing her own needs and actually leaves! This movie was trying to be a rebuttal to 50 shades, but in the end, just became the Pure Flix parallel. But this reveals the problem with how the evangelical movement prioritizes relationship qualities. It's not wrong to refuse to meet your partner in the middle so that you both are getting your relational needs met, it's only wrong if you have extra/pre-marital sex.
Summed it up really well. Evangelical purity culture standards of sexual ethics and healthy relationships aren't so much about consent and boundaries and power dynamics and who's getting their needs met equally, as much as "are we doing the correct gender roles" and "is Bad Sinful Sex involved".
Our pastor did the same thing to my mom when she was a volunteer that women can't be alone with a man unless there are more than one of them. My mom is married and in her 50's so... yeah.
I walked by a church this afternoon that had chimes coming from the steeple, "Bringing in the sheaves". Made me think of a religious ice cream wagon.
Christ, I don't think I've ever seen Brad this angry at a movie and he sat through Salo.
Brad's stroke at 3:32 is probably the hardest I've laughed at a Snob video in years
I'm amazed that this film has some 10/10 reviews on imdb and people praise it on how much chemistry the characters have and how realistic their relationship is. Were they watching the same thing?
It's a very realistic ABUSIVE relationship
I feel it’s the director trying to be like Kirk Cameron and boost the ratings to make the movie look good, but failing just as hard
Usually, PureFlix movies are watchable because they're guilty pleasures, and you can laugh at most of them. Then there's Old Fashioned. I literally just finished the DVD, and it was more cringey than funny.
Funniest thing is that Brad has probably seen more of these Christian pieces of crap that should have NEVER seen a theatrical release than actual Christians.
+deathskilledreaper I can vouch for that personally. Seriously.
+JetBalrog No doubt.
+deathskilledreaper Yeah, there's Rock: It's Your Decision, Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas, and this movie form of WTF. The male lead in this movie is just as bad and unlikable as Jeff from Rock: It's Your Decision.
+SpeedyEric1 I'm rewatching the Cinema Snob epic review/beatdown of this piece of crap now. Check it out if you haven't you'll love it I'm sure.
deathskilledreaper I've seen it on the day it was posted. That's why I've watched this Midnight Screening episode. Just to see Brad out of character after he saw this crap for the first time.
38:33 :
- Can't you fucking be NORMAL!?
- Noo, I can't do _that_!
God, Brad's inflection on the response in that exchange was so fucking funny ;). Of COURSE he can't be normal, that will never do ;).
Brad and Dave, many cats can take to leashes just fine. My cat and many others even play fetch. Mine "asks" me to play fetch with her about five times a day!
He he. Brad called the Red, Yellow, Green book the Red, white, blue book. 33:46
I watch this every Valentine's day.
Honestly after watching this and the snob episode, brads mocking of the rick swartzwelder is far better than the actors actual delivery
I know for a FACT that damb book is real, we went thru it in my odd christian singles group where none of us dated any of us
*laughs* I was raised Mormon (it screwed my life up in a lot of ways. still recovering.) And yeah- dudes really aren't supposed to be alone with women. Missionaries are specifically trained *not* to be. And my bro-in-law didn't kiss my sister til they were married... I'm not saying it's normal I'm just saying, yeah, it's a thing in some communities
+MegaRambit Mainly as a means of preserving public image. Most of the time, we don't want to give anyone the possibility of thinking less of us, so we can be a testimony for Christ. This includes being alone with women who we aren't married to.
I personally think it's stupid (assuming everyone around you thinks you are a serial rapist waiting to strike isn't a healthy mindset, not to mention it's degrading to women in a few ways), but you are right, this mindset is very much a thing.
I love this car review and I love the semi-permanent ಠ_ಠ face Dave has during the entire thing.
Talyn has time it’s like he almost can’t believe that this is a real movie
I desperately want a video of Brad and Violet with Red, Yellow, Green discussing their relationship.
just watched the conema snob review... now I'm here.
"His pants in his pockets." 24:33
Also don’t forget “red, white, and blue book!”
I think the dating thing is perfectly reasonable. I didn't want to waste my time on hookups and relationships that don't mean anything either. Some people want commitment.
In my opinion, I rather date someone and get to know them. That's the reason of dating, you got find the meaning in someone. Commitment is another ballpark.
I checked out the trailer for this movie after I saw this video, and even the trailer made me uncomfortable. Oh and Brad is very right about the 40 year old guy with Justin Beiber hair. It was fucking gross.
I love that you can hear him writing the Cinemasnob review in the conversation 😂😄
"Laugh it up Chuckles"
classic
Anyone else wish that "Jesus, Bro" featured a *cat* with a hot chocolate mug in front of its face?
"Star 80 is a better romance movie than this." LOL
I've watched a lot of these reviews focusing on religious movies, and I have to say seeing Dave smile is a nice change of pace!
I hope people don't actually think normal Christians like these god-awful (pun intended) movies. Because we don't.
***** That would really be a miracle.
+tia thomas sadly I live in the bible belt of Tennessee. I can tell you that isn't entirely true
+tia thomas I'm a Christian, and I don't like super religious pieces of shit like this and Rock: It's Your Decision.
+tia thomas My family sure does, though. They've threatened to ground me for saying these movies suck.
+Hayden T do your parents ever get fresh air or sunlight
Brad reminds me, strongly, of a coworker I used to work with. Similar looks and mannerisms that all these videos make me feel like I'm back in Japan talking with said coworker. That aside, this movie did not execute the "old fashioned" theme very well.
Oh my fuck, I think I found the book they used: The dirt on sex by Justin Lookadoo
He wrote the book Dateable that was passed around my church when I was in high school. Vile and absolutely in the same lane as this movie lol
Re watching this in 2022 and still funny as hell :3
I wonder how many people at my old job tried returning this movie. I explained it to some degree to customers and they looked at me in utter confusion.
THIS IS WHAT MAIN STREAMED CHRISTIANS FILMMAKERS THINK IS ROMANCTIC?! TWILIGHT HAS BETTER ROMANCE THAN THIS GARBAGE AND THAT'S SAYING A LOT!
+Alex Ferguson No, no, no, this is what the fanatics who make these films think proper romance is. This film is not a reflection of the beliefs of the general Christian community.
I understand. But other people will mistaken these movies as what Christians believe that things should be without realizing that these are made by arrogant, angry people who think they're in the right.
Edward and Bella's relationship actually meets ALL of the points listed on the National Domestic Violence hotline for being in an abusive relationship.
I'm 100% certain this movie's relationship does too...
I have seen so few religious movies and some of these recent midnight screenings I've seen have made me quite thankful of that fact and I feel like the snob is like jumping on holy hand grenades for us all to save us from this kind of tripe. thanks snob I'm just going to watch Jesus Christ vampire hunter again i just found on utube and is just enough religion for me i think lol check it out.
He used to make porn, and now he works with wood...
Nice.
You guys are so funny.
This review is worth a repeat once a month imo. I recommend soaking it in with fine wine and dry-aged steak.
I'd sit through this Abomination of a movie if only for the chance to see Clay get the shit kicked out of him by The Kerry King looking Bodyguard after screwing the Stripper out of her tips...too bad it never happens.
For some reason,if I ever watch this shitstorm I will Rifftrax the Hell out of it with some friends and a Lot -Read volumes- of Drink....(and I don't drink much....)
Good video,Brad.
28:05 I thought you were gonna say he made her cut up a baby and eat it. that would've been a dark turn.
Clay's an atheist?
Also, I got so annoyed when Christian's say that atheists eat babies. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
+FireBlast Studios
I wouldn’t put that past Clay Walsh...
@@geoffreysorkin5774 He's a Claytheist... I'm so sorry.
Sounds like the tapes were more like that scene from "Fame" than Girls Gone Wild. Still not as bad as say, "Facial Abuse".
Did you have a Wendy's Old Fayshind Hamburger? XD
"STAR 80 was a better LOVE STORY than THIS!!"
Yes, but what about Twilight?...;)
Triumph of the will is a better romance movie than this
Wait, so the main character made a vow to be Mike Pence?
50:24 : "I got a Coke Zero at the movie theatre, that was all right!", raves the Cinema Snob :D :D
Am I the only one who read the title and thought of the Monty Python segment where Terry Jones sings Old Fashioned Girl as Lev Trotsky?
i did too
Honestly, I think this would have been how my dad probably wished he'd met my mom. Although, falling off a motorcycle because you're trying to be Peter Fonda in Easy Rider (he was the furthest thing from a hippie) and ending up meeting his wife, who was literally his nurse, probably worked really well for him too. Obviously she left because of all the abuse, after over 20 years. But he even got a girl to break up with me by constantly telling her whenever she went into the kitchen to see my mom that she was "in training." By that he meant having spaghetti thrown at her because he hated that, and because he didn't get his tea with dinner. Timing was everything.
well at least he didn't try to fix the air conditioner with prayer....like my moms landlord.........sigh..
That has to suck...watching that during the day must have been hard to sit through.
Just like the Twilight Saga, this movie makes you want to be forever single!
I was raised Christian and I have turned from it and I have huge hate for Christianity. Don't get me wrong though, I've scrolled through the posts of this section and I have seen both "Christian's" and--in the word's of Terry Pratchett--religious people whom believe in people and I approve of the latter very much.
+godihopethisnottaken As a Christian, I hope the best for you, and formally apologize for Old Fashioned's existence.
i'm a christian and i (and a lot of fellow rational christians) make fun of the batshit crazy ones like the guy in this movie.
sidenote: movie budget: 600k national gross: 1,9kk
+ChuckNorrisIsNothing And: won two christian movie awards
I'm a Christian and this movie makes me laugh at how out of touch it is..
That Hillsong movie actually had a bit of a distributor juggling act.
Back in 2014, Warner Bros. was set to release it but then Warner dropped it in early January 2015 before it was picked up by Relativity Media for a 2015 release, but then Relativity got bankrupt and dropped it, anong other movies. Now,according to Box Office Mojo, the Hillsong movie is set to be released by the Patron Saint of Crappy Faith Movies aka Pure Flix in September.
33:32
I think the movie gave Brad a split-second stroke.
if i ever go to Springfield, i hope i see Brad coming out of a bad Christian movie