@@johnp139 The problem is that the supports weren't sufficiently protected. Any bridge is going to suffer a catastrophic failure when hit by a ship this big.
WOW! So hard to watch 1:34 a construction cone still standing upright after the drop of the roadway. RIP to the one who placed it as well as to your co-workers.
The road crew were ILLEGAL ALIENS from Mexico and Central America......................."doing the work NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO DO, working hard to raise their families in America.''😆
Here is opinion as a Master of Merchat ship 1. Power blackout, lost propulsion and steering. 2. Steering was in manual mode. At the time of power went off, the rudder was in STARBOARD POSITION as the result of steadying the ship. As the matter of fact steadying of the ship, the helmsman has to keep the rudder to port or stbd. As of result, ship slightly turned to stbd right away after power went off with speed 8.5 knt. 3. Pilot instructed to let go port anchor in order to ease the speed momentum. 4. Power back to normal, The Pilot instructed full astern as we can see the black smoke comes out from funnel. As the result of full astern with right turn Engine, bow tends to swing to stbd makes worst of the situation and heading to one of key bridge main pillar.
@@nitehawk86 in this case "lost power" originated from a journalist that saw the lights go out. Journalists are dumb af. There is only speculative evidence that it lost propulsion. Just keeping it real instead of galloping off with the latest, uneducated, conspiracy BS.
Master of a merchant ship, I'm a 9 year Navy veteran, Quartermaster 2nd Class (SW) and Certified Master Helmsman. Rudder doesn't go Port or Starboard. It goes Left or Right. Engine Orders are Port or Starboard. It's actually in the manual. Basic Seamanship I learned that first week after graduating from Boot Camp.
They were in process of repairing the bridge. Looks like it has a fairly new coat of paint. I have read the Dali had major electrical problems in dock and was not ready to go back to sea but it left anyway.
Why does the Port Authority of Baltimore allow a container vessel 300 meters long, almost 50 meters wide and loaded with 10,000 containers to sail along the port's exit channel without being supported by at least 2 or 3 tugboats until open sea to avoid emergency situations, and even more so with the obstacle of a bridge built in the 70s designed for navigation at that time when there were no ships with the large dimensions that exist today? ►► Here you can see how from the port of Mugardos (SPAIN) where I work, a gas carrier with a capacity of 150,000 cubic meters and 300 meters in length is supported at all times by 4 tugboats from more than 4 nautical miles at least to access a estuary whose narrowest point of the channel measures the same as the span of the Baltimore Bridge through which the container ship crossed. It's not a question of money, it's a question of something simpler: SECURITY. And this is how we do it in Spain -> ua-cam.com/video/p1nlAoFBWWw/v-deo.html
Ship's have very limited control when tugs around as the larger ships will cause wakes which can damage the tugs when moving too fast. The 2 tugs that moved the Dali out of the berthing area were already leaving the area but they did try to race back when Dali called in trouble.
@@GardenDude1 You don't have to wait for it to happen, you must always prevent it, and even more so today when we are talking about a 100,000-tonne, 300-meter-long ship. I am sure that the Baltimore Port Authority will change its protocol with these types of ships starting today. I am from Ferrol, ES and every time a gas carrier of this size enters, it is supported upon arrival and departure by 4 tugboats, a pilot and a police patrol boat.
1. The Dali lost steering (rudder) but the single screw engine was running. The ship was experiencing power outages while underway. 2. Dali was moving forward at 7-8 knots when the exhaust cloud was seen on the video. This was caused by reversing the engine to slow or stop the vessel. 3. Like any single screw vessel it pulled hard to starboard (right hand direction) when thrown into reverse but kept moving forward. Even in reverse a nearly 1,000 ft. container ship will not stop on a dime. The rudder was not available to counteract this pull to starboard. This is what caused the hard right turn toward the supporting pier. 4. The Dali ran directly into the pier.
from what I saw in the video I would surmise that the Dali lost her main power plant which killed the engines and rudder, wind and current moved the ship, when the lights came back on I would say that a backup diesel gen had come online (notable due to the number of lights illuminated changing) the black smoke getting heavier was the main plant coming back online and them trying to crash stop the ship and the main plant went down a second time just before impact. I would guess that there was probably something along the lines of contaminated fuel or a fuel delivery issue.
So in reality if the Pilot and Master did nothing the ship would of continued straight ahead under the bridge. Why go into reverse if there was nothing in front of them which judging by their course was straight ahead. Does not make sense.@@TheBurcham1
@@Antony_JennerBank effect from the dredged merging channel likely helped pull them off course. Still though, until we get the final report in a few years this is all just going to be idle speculation.
I realized where Grandpa Biden spent taxpayers' money! They didn't go to new bridges in Baltimore, not to new railroads!!! They went to war in Ukraine, where they were stolen. Jovelins are sold on the black market!! That's the whole secret! Don't dig a hole for someone else, you'll end up in it yourself!!!
Well whatever the insurance premium or however the shipping industry goes, one must realize that whatever the increase they impose on who ever is responsible, that cost increase will trickle down to us, the consumer. I agree whomever is ultimately responsible does get zapped a fair amount especially for the loss of lives.
I was reading articles on bridges in the United States. The sources agree that 42% of all bridges are less than 50 years old. Many of these articles agree that bridges need to be replaced when they get to be 50 years old. In Louisville there is the Sherman Minton bridge built in the 1960’s. It is closed structurally unsound. No replacement in sight.
It depends on how well built and maintained they are. The Golden Gate and George Washington bridges are nearly 100. The New River Gorge Bridge is nearly 50. The Brooklyn Bridge is nearly 150. None of these bridges are being called to be replaced. But as landmarks they are all extremely well maintained. The older ones were massively overengineered. I would actually be more concerned about younger bridges. The Fern Hollow Bridge was built in the 70s and maintenance was documented to be ignored. The NTSB even said in the report that it should have been closed long before it collapsed. Super container ships like Dali simply didn't exist when the Francis Scott Key Bridge was designed and built. Ships of today are 10x larger than ships of the 50s. But the NTSB report will tell us if maintenance or planning was lacking. Should the bridge have had heavier barriers around the piers? Would it have helped with a ship so large?
1:48 I see a ship has a hole in a pretty good size one in the Bow Port wing The ship is not seaworthy right now it will have to return to port, and offload all of the containers, so that it can get to a dry dock to get repaired the hole is too big for the ship to make it through the sea to its destination, it’s too damaged. Even the Coast Guard would deem it not see worthy.
Here's what happened. When the power went down the pilot lost steerage as it is a fly by wire system. He then called for full astern. That is the plume of black smoke from the funnel. That was a mistake. When the ship engaged full astern it began what we call a prop walk. The stern moves to port and the bow moves to starboard. There was too much way on the ship to stop before the bridge. It was doing 8kts prior to the power outage and 6kts when it hit. If the pilot had not engaged astern it would have continued on its course through the middle of the span.
I partially agree, While the propwalk will turn the vessel depending on screw rotation direction regardless of movement direction (reverse is more severe), the reported ±15kt northerly wind and tidal flow would have pushed the vessel off course (XTE - cross track error) to starboard as shown by the AIS track. The video exaggerates the turn rate due to paralax error (the angle of view) which misleads many viewers. I do not believe the main engine shut down (my understanding is she is "direct drive" on the main and she maintained 8.5 kts before the emergency backing was ordered, again look at the AIS track) but the ships electrical generators did go down at least twice and possibly a third time upon collision with the pylon . Of note, just seconds prior to impact, while there was electrical power she makes a significant turn of the bow towards port, I think this may be from the bow thruster in a last ditch effort to avoid the pylon. It is possible that the crew attempted this thruster correction prior to the second power outage and may have been a factor in the second power outage due to overloading the compromised electrical power system. Sal, from 'whats going on with shipping' noticed that on the initial recovery of electrical power that the forward mast head light was not illuminated for several seconds indicating to me she did not have a full power recovery.
don't read too much into the AIS track. At least not in the publicly available ones. they don't get updated frequently enough to be precise. On board track recorders will give a more precise view. @@dirtyeric
The more disturbing recent reports are that some 400 tons of combustible material were loaded in some of the containers. I hope that there is no damage to the containers that carried that and no leaks into the bay.
They should have learned from the Tampa accident in 1980 and installed barriers to protect the bridge! Would have been cheaper in the long run! I do have to say that I'm amazed that we can see this footage and the rescue/recovery operation and will get to see the salvage operation as well. Condolences to those who lost their lives and to their families and to crew of the MV Dahli who had to experience this tragedy 1st hand.
There are concrete dolphins on site. I don’t know why people keep stating this lie that there is no protection. Use your eyes. At 0:55- 1:09 a boat is tied to one dolphin on the right of the screen. At 1:30 you can see a dolphin protection for the northern pier in the distance. But as stated a ship this size would take out most dolphins and the bow protrudes far out in front of the hull so they may have slowed the inevitable by a few seconds that’s all.
I worked at the Port Of Baltimore, my only question is, why were there no tugs escorting her past the FSK Bridge. She had 2 tugs assist her off Seagirt berth, they left her once she made the main channel. If it isnt law, then it needs to become law, tugs must escort ship past FSK Bridge outbound, and ships must have tug escort from Fort Carol to berth inbound. Its just a common sense approach to safety.
My question would be to the port authority as to why there is minimal pier protection on all the support piers. if they knew that knocking one pier out would take the whole fricken bridge down put in more protection leading up to the bridge supports.
After the new bridge is built I hope they change their policy and require the tugs escort the ships all the way out of the channel AND under the bridge. (Current practice is to dismiss the tugs after major turns and going straight)
That will only cost you more because the tugs are paid by the shippers. If the shippers have to pay more, then the price of the transported goods go up. Alternatively, more modern pier protection would likely be better. The vessel would've just run aground instead of hitting the bridge.
@@cjsebesNot my idea. Seems other harbors already require tugs to escort until they leave the harbor. They don't care about passing costs on to consumers. It will be the insurance companies driving this subject.
That would greatly increase shipping costs and cause large delays because there aren't NEAR enough tugs on the waters to escort every ship in the waterways. That idea is really a non starter.
Ships attached to tugs cannot exceed 2-3 knots (ish) to avoid capsizing the tugs meaning that all ships in the harbor would be forced to a literal crawl. The amount of congestion that would take place and now requiring a harbor literally swarming with tugboats to get 2 per ship would easily cause delays, cost way more than one would think, and if anything potentially cause even more of a hazard assuming tugs are racing and weaving between ships to get places. The greater hazard may or may not be something of actual concern, but the other points still stand. I do wonder of a busy port is still a more dangerous port.
Nothing will happen until the debris is removed, which could be days, weeks, or months. Figuring out how the get the bridge off the ship, it’s a huge structure, and then out of there, is not a weekend job. Then the boat needs to refloat and get moved out of there. Then the rest of the bridge debris needs to be cleared out of the channel. Then they figure out how to reopen it.
Dali with same crew and captain crashed into docks in Antwerp Belguim 2 months before. This crew should not have been allowed to port here. Ship inspections were shotty and suspect. This crew had a long history of incompetance togather.
@@Cobalt135hmmm my bad. I believed a DJI ban was just passed for all government agencies.. and next they are coming after our drones. So I’m a little confused then, if they are banned for government use, why are they still flying them? Better yet… when they ban my drones, can I still fly them? Or is this a “do as I say, not as I do” sort of thing.
Well placed explosive cutting charges cut steel like butter. Call Controlled Demolition Inc for this job! Too much stress on steel to cut by torch safely.
At 0:58 I'm shocked at the construction of the substructures,those concrete piers contained with a open box, plus no collision protection against any ship..
it was also dwarved by the ship, fully loaded, looked to be better than half the mass of the collapsed portion of the bridge. that sort of construction is standard, filling that box would've actually weakened it. not placing adequate bollard piers at the channel entrance is more of a problem
Pictures of the result, which is not a very surprising one when a ship nocks a support column from under a bridge. In footage from just before the collision we saw all lights on board go out. Only the lights? How about power steering/ navigational and communications systems? Was ik logical at the point of the outage for the ship to be aligned for disaster? Or should she already have been aligned for a safe passage underneath? How about redundancy and back up systems? Has the crew been heard? Has the captain or the shipping company come with a statement? All the interesting things are to be found out below decks and on the bridge imo. But okay, let’s say they’re just warming up for that.
One of the problems is greed. They keep building these ships bigger and bigger to hold more containers. They need to put a limit on size or bring the manufacturing back to the US
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@@dougaltolan3017 it is a big ask. However, they should have had dolphins. Quote from Newsweek: "Dolphins are protective objects-sometimes equipped with their own fender system-designed to protect a structure from impact from a marine vessel." So they needed, and didn't have, something like a crash protector on a freeway, only much larger.
@@grmpEqweer please don't quote journalists... (no I'm not on a "MSM bad" rant) Theres a saying: If you can: do. If you cant: teach. I like to add "if you cant teach: be a journalist" As I said, the impact had the energy of a ton of tnt. If there had been dolphins, the front of the ship would crumple and the deck and everything on it would just carry on and demish the bridge support. Yes, there should be some sort of protection, but there will always be an an accident big enough to break through it.
This was a fracture critical bridge, no structural redundancies. There are 17,468 of them in the US. Of a total of 615,000 bridges in the country. From a good NTSB briefing. I was astounded by the numbers. No bridge can withstand losing a main support. Edit due to comments
It was what you could call a balanced bridge for the reason that it all fell just about simeoultaneously, but at the same time a 100,000 ton ship just took out the main load bearing support/foundation of the bridge and extra structural reinforcing can complicate the construction of the bridge in possibly some negative ways. Even if the bridge were super reinforced and only the structure surrounding around the main support was damaged, there is a decent chance the whole bridge would still be scrapped since some intensely high stresses and loads as well as some unwanted shifting of the rest of the bridge supports/structure could take place.
The bridge pylons were not adequately protected. If this had been done (as previously and repeatedly recommended by engineers), the bridge would not have collapsed. That cost pales in comparison to the monies that will now be spent to fix this mess. And, I wouldn't be at all surprised if other jurisdictions with at risk bridges add dolphins or other protection systems asap.
now find the money to build every bridge redundant to all contingencies. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this is not how the world works, sherlock
@@wtxrailfan stil. the ship was only laden with about 150k tons of cargo. light load, eh? give me a break; no bridge in the country would withstand one of these hitting it at .5 mph, and thats the ENTIRE POINT: bridge isnt supposed to be hit by boat.
Dear Chirhu, what does steering wheel hydraulics have to do with it? Do you watch TV at all? News Every month in the USA there are train crashes with chemicals. Have you heard anything about the Boeing Corporation? Why are you telling us about the hydraulics of the rudders on the ship if you are not an expert!?
uh huh. "misguided opinions"? Starting with yours? There's nothing wrong with friendly/respectful discourse and offering your own common sense or informed opinions based on the current state of the information you have.
@@ocoolwow Wrong? What if I just keep repeating my opinion over and over, until everybody is sick of it? I mean, eventually... Won't that make it right? I know what's right and what's not right. Trust me.
I appreciate the frugality, but the NTSB still using an ancient Phantom drone instead of a much more capable newer model makes me wonder if this department is underfunded
If they have to get down low to the water, it makes more sense to sacrifice a lower quality drone, than it does a high end camera or something, it gets the job done and less worry about being near the water level
They r like every dept not directly pushing DEI or helping in Biden's reelection. But, truthfully, it's always been underfunded. My neighbor is a senior investigator.
Grandpa, you are doing everything right! You are confidently leading the country to collapse! Keep it up Joe, you are a real sailor, even though you sometimes fall down the stairs
Singaporean-Indian owner/management company that manages the ship ( Singaporean firm Grace Ocean Pte. Ltd and Indian manager, Synergy Marine Group) Big company, they manage many ships, they are good at what they do and their pricing is affordable. Need to look into their bureaucratic practices, how they fix things, how they deal with repairs and what is the paperwork/real work balance. The ship has a good history according to it's official maintenance report. We'll see what was the sequence of events that lead to catastrophic power failure at a very important moment.
@@akashpatel8410 Ok then, I'll make an edit in my post, my apologies "The owner is Singaporean firm Grace Ocean Pte. Ltd and and manager is India Synergy Marine Group"
DJI makes the best drones period. I was suprised to see that old dji phantom because most state and federal agencies are banned from flying any Chinese owned drone. All drones are made in China anyhow.
Why is that Biden said American taypayers our going to rebuild the bridge why isn’t the ships captain and the company responsible to pay for the whole damn bridge
I had that same question, but after talking with my coworker we came to the conclusion that the US and Federal Agencies will foot the bill to rebuild the bridge ASAP, and then the federal government will sue/battle the shipping companies insurance policy/company for the majority of the bill. It'll move quicker that way
Sad, very sad. Now I'm afraid to drive across the Richmond - San Rafael bridge in California where you get stuck for hours while the bridge shudders and trucks blow over in the wind. Need some engineering comment reassurance!
How long can you tread water? Cause I'm gonna say that if you're on that bridge when a giant container ship hit's one of it's main supports, treading water is going to be your main survival skill. Might want to keep a floatation device on the passenger seat.
Dean Winters was on the bridge! A favorite saying of mine comes from the Led Zeppelin album, Houses of the Holy, the track is 'The Crunge', and in it Robert Plant asks (as Messrs Page, Jones and Bonham provide overdriven backup music) 'Have you seen the bridge?? Where's that confounded bridge!??' That lyric has been with me since the Baltimore Bridge was built!! Now, I need to take a bath with my Maersk floaty toys!!
Das wird jedenfalls richtig teuer werden für alle , Schiffe die nicht in den Hafen können Schiffe die Auslaufen wollen, dann Leute die über Brücke pendeln,usw
The bow is actually pushed down onto the seafloor by all that weight, so not "technically" afloat. What's amazing - and a tribute to the Korean engineers and shipyard workers is that with all this damage, she hasn't flooded at all. Very stout, strong ship.
They have a lot of thick metal up front to protect the ship if it hits something. It's not really designed to protect the deck so much as the lower hull, but it is a benefit nonetheless. It's also a bit barrower there so the bridge folded around it to an extent, although it's amazing to me to see a section of relatively intact roadway and even concrete center barriers sitting flat across the ship. It's definitely strong to take such a hit.
Washington post puts their story saying that the ship crew is thanking God that they didn’t die but what about the people who were driving and working on the bridge that did die. Ultimately the ship and the ships owner are responsible for the repairs for the bridge not the taxpayers. The only way the taxpayers would be on the hook as if the pilot screwed up but I don’t think she did but there’s always a possibility question asked should be was the pilot who was in command of the ship at the time did they have a ultimate class license or was it a limited tonnage class? Meaning, a smaller ship size
A pilot is never in command. A master can allow the pilot to directly issue steering commands, and most often do but the responsibility of the ship never relinquishes from the master. The pilot is only there to serve as an advisor, even though they are required by regulation. The only place in the world where a pilot has legal authority of a vessel is the Panama Canal.
Thank you NTSB for sharing this B-roll.
Serving for half a century, this bridge has become a part of people's lives.
May rest in peace who lost their lives in this tragedy.
Bridges when they reach the age need to be replaced.
It looked like a pretty crappy bridge.
@@johnp139 The problem is that the supports weren't sufficiently protected. Any bridge is going to suffer a catastrophic failure when hit by a ship this big.
@@edl617 The age of the bridge had nothing to do with it! Ya dolt!
Gotta love drones. You get pictures that a few years ago wasn't possible
Hey! I've got that same drone!
They will show you what they want you to see.
@@Riley_rolo yea ok.......
@@Riley_rolowhat do you want to see?
True, but now FPV drones drones provide even better footage.
yall missed the chance to call it NTSB-roll
Underrated comment 😂
NT's B-Roll.
WOW! So hard to watch 1:34 a construction cone still standing upright after the drop of the roadway. RIP to the one who placed it as well as to your co-workers.
The road crew were ILLEGAL ALIENS from Mexico and Central America......................."doing the work NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO DO, working hard to raise their families in America.''😆
Is it really so hard to watch? Lol
Here is opinion as a Master of Merchat ship
1. Power blackout, lost propulsion and steering.
2. Steering was in manual mode. At the time of power went off, the rudder was in STARBOARD POSITION as the result of steadying the ship. As the matter of fact steadying of the ship, the helmsman has to keep the rudder to port or stbd.
As of result, ship slightly turned to stbd right away after power went off with speed 8.5 knt.
3. Pilot instructed to let go port anchor in order to ease the speed momentum.
4. Power back to normal, The Pilot instructed full astern as we can see the black smoke comes out from funnel. As the result of full astern with right turn Engine, bow tends to swing to stbd makes worst of the situation and heading to one of key bridge main pillar.
Power: singular??
There are many power systems on a ship like that, you cannot just lump them all into one "power"
Ship goes dark/blackout then you lost the power or generators.
@@dougaltolan3017 the standard on ships is "power" means "propulsion"
@@nitehawk86 in this case "lost power" originated from a journalist that saw the lights go out.
Journalists are dumb af.
There is only speculative evidence that it lost propulsion.
Just keeping it real instead of galloping off with the latest, uneducated, conspiracy BS.
Master of a merchant ship, I'm a 9 year Navy veteran, Quartermaster 2nd Class (SW) and Certified Master Helmsman. Rudder doesn't go Port or Starboard.
It goes Left or Right. Engine Orders are Port or Starboard. It's actually in the manual. Basic Seamanship I learned that first week after graduating from Boot Camp.
Thanks for sharing this footage with us.
They were in process of repairing the bridge. Looks like it has a fairly new coat of paint. I have read the Dali had major electrical problems in dock and was not ready to go back to sea but it left anyway.
Das wird teuer für alle , nur wegen dieser vollidioten, die zu blöde sind ein Schiff zu führen
repairing the bridge? One channel said "pot holes". so, what is it? the bridge or potholes??
Pot holes
Why does the Port Authority of Baltimore allow a container vessel 300 meters long, almost 50 meters wide and loaded with 10,000 containers to sail along the port's exit channel without being supported by at least 2 or 3 tugboats until open sea to avoid emergency situations, and even more so with the obstacle of a bridge built in the 70s designed for navigation at that time when there were no ships with the large dimensions that exist today? ►► Here you can see how from the port of Mugardos (SPAIN) where I work, a gas carrier with a capacity of 150,000 cubic meters and 300 meters in length is supported at all times by 4 tugboats from more than 4 nautical miles at least to access a estuary whose narrowest point of the channel measures the same as the span of the Baltimore Bridge through which the container ship crossed. It's not a question of money, it's a question of something simpler: SECURITY. And this is how we do it in Spain -> ua-cam.com/video/p1nlAoFBWWw/v-deo.html
This is what I was thinking.. they couldn't have stopped the vessel but they sure could have steered it.
Because it wouldn’t have hit it the bridge, with tugboats
Ship's have very limited control when tugs around as the larger ships will cause wakes which can damage the tugs when moving too fast. The 2 tugs that moved the Dali out of the berthing area were already leaving the area but they did try to race back when Dali called in trouble.
Seemed OK until now. Thousands and thousands of times it was fine.
@@GardenDude1 You don't have to wait for it to happen, you must always prevent it, and even more so today when we are talking about a 100,000-tonne, 300-meter-long ship. I am sure that the Baltimore Port Authority will change its protocol with these types of ships starting today. I am from Ferrol, ES and every time a gas carrier of this size enters, it is supported upon arrival and departure by 4 tugboats, a pilot and a police patrol boat.
I can't believe they are flying a Phantom.
I fly mavic 3s for work. You weren’t the only one that noticed that.
It's a government agency, they don't always have the newest thing despite what some pundits and politicians say.
Supposed to be flying blue list for the Feds. That is funny!
I wonder if their insurance policy covers bridge rebuilding... "nope, sorry, you're on your own, that doesn't fall under our policy."
The bridge *did* fall under your policy.
Taxpayers bro
If insurance doesn't cover the cost the assets of the shipping company will.
Us Gov is paying lmao weèe
Biden already said he’s asking Congress for more resources to get the bridge built back quickly, which means we the people are supposed to pay for it
alright NTSB, work your magic
Astonishing
Wasn't there a recent ban on DJI Drones for federal agency type of work? Weird how it isn't enforced...
1. The Dali lost steering (rudder) but the single screw engine was running. The ship was experiencing power outages while underway. 2. Dali was moving forward at 7-8 knots when the exhaust cloud was seen on the video. This was caused by reversing the engine to slow or stop the vessel. 3. Like any single screw vessel it pulled hard to starboard (right hand direction) when thrown into reverse but kept moving forward. Even in reverse a nearly 1,000 ft. container ship will not stop on a dime. The rudder was not available to counteract this pull to starboard. This is what caused the hard right turn toward the supporting pier. 4. The Dali ran directly into the pier.
It wasnt a hard turn at all, look up the gps patch it took... camera angle makes it look hard turn
from what I saw in the video I would surmise that the Dali lost her main power plant which killed the engines and rudder, wind and current moved the ship, when the lights came back on I would say that a backup diesel gen had come online (notable due to the number of lights illuminated changing) the black smoke getting heavier was the main plant coming back online and them trying to crash stop the ship and the main plant went down a second time just before impact. I would guess that there was probably something along the lines of contaminated fuel or a fuel delivery issue.
@@Gooselip I have seen several tracks of the Dali route and each is different. I saw one on a live feed and it showed a sharp turn.
So in reality if the Pilot and Master did nothing the ship would of continued straight ahead under the bridge. Why go into reverse if there was nothing in front of them which judging by their course was straight ahead. Does not make sense.@@TheBurcham1
@@Antony_JennerBank effect from the dredged merging channel likely helped pull them off course. Still though, until we get the final report in a few years this is all just going to be idle speculation.
I hope that shipping line has their insurance premiums paid up.
I realized where Grandpa Biden spent taxpayers' money! They didn't go to new bridges in Baltimore, not to new railroads!!! They went to war in Ukraine, where they were stolen. Jovelins are sold on the black market!! That's the whole secret! Don't dig a hole for someone else, you'll end up in it yourself!!!
Not to mention the insurance company's reinsurance!
couple billion
Well whatever the insurance premium or however the shipping industry goes, one must realize that whatever the increase they impose on who ever is responsible, that cost increase will trickle down to us, the consumer. I agree whomever is ultimately responsible does get zapped a fair amount especially for the loss of lives.
why biden says were paying for it?
I was reading articles on bridges in the United States. The sources agree that 42% of all bridges are less than 50 years old. Many of these articles agree that bridges need to be replaced when they get to be 50 years old. In Louisville there is the Sherman Minton bridge built in the 1960’s. It is closed structurally unsound. No replacement in sight.
It depends on how well built and maintained they are. The Golden Gate and George Washington bridges are nearly 100. The New River Gorge Bridge is nearly 50. The Brooklyn Bridge is nearly 150.
None of these bridges are being called to be replaced. But as landmarks they are all extremely well maintained. The older ones were massively overengineered. I would actually be more concerned about younger bridges. The Fern Hollow Bridge was built in the 70s and maintenance was documented to be ignored. The NTSB even said in the report that it should have been closed long before it collapsed.
Super container ships like Dali simply didn't exist when the Francis Scott Key Bridge was designed and built. Ships of today are 10x larger than ships of the 50s. But the NTSB report will tell us if maintenance or planning was lacking. Should the bridge have had heavier barriers around the piers? Would it have helped with a ship so large?
I wonder what caused the burn markings at the ''breaks''?
1:48 I see a ship has a hole in a pretty good size one in the Bow Port wing The ship is not seaworthy right now it will have to return to port, and offload all of the containers, so that it can get to a dry dock to get repaired the hole is too big for the ship to make it through the sea to its destination, it’s too damaged. Even the Coast Guard would deem it not see worthy.
The bow is also sitting on the bottom right now.
@@stargazer7644I understand the channel is not very deep….
@@cindywiech2675The channel is about 50 feet deep. But the ship isn't in the channel. It is considerably shallower outside of the dredged channel.
Here's what happened. When the power went down the pilot lost steerage as it is a fly by wire system. He then called for full astern. That is the plume of black smoke from the funnel. That was a mistake. When the ship engaged full astern it began what we call a prop walk. The stern moves to port and the bow moves to starboard. There was too much way on the ship to stop before the bridge. It was doing 8kts prior to the power outage and 6kts when it hit. If the pilot had not engaged astern it would have continued on its course through the middle of the span.
My conclusion as well. It IS inexcusable for a captain or helmsman not to know of this behavior when going full astern.
I partially agree, While the propwalk will turn the vessel depending on screw rotation direction regardless of movement direction (reverse is more severe), the reported ±15kt northerly wind and tidal flow would have pushed the vessel off course (XTE - cross track error) to starboard as shown by the AIS track. The video exaggerates the turn rate due to paralax error (the angle of view) which misleads many viewers. I do not believe the main engine shut down (my understanding is she is "direct drive" on the main and she maintained 8.5 kts before the emergency backing was ordered, again look at the AIS track) but the ships electrical generators did go down at least twice and possibly a third time upon collision with the pylon . Of note, just seconds prior to impact, while there was electrical power she makes a significant turn of the bow towards port, I think this may be from the bow thruster in a last ditch effort to avoid the pylon. It is possible that the crew attempted this thruster correction prior to the second power outage and may have been a factor in the second power outage due to overloading the compromised electrical power system. Sal, from 'whats going on with shipping' noticed that on the initial recovery of electrical power that the forward mast head light was not illuminated for several seconds indicating to me she did not have a full power recovery.
Was turning right while the power was off would of still hit it
Who was calling the shots when the ship lost power? Was the pilot giving orders? Or was it the captain of the ship?
don't read too much into the AIS track. At least not in the publicly available ones. they don't get updated frequently enough to be precise. On board track recorders will give a more precise view. @@dirtyeric
The more disturbing recent reports are that some 400 tons of combustible material were loaded in some of the containers. I hope that there is no damage to the containers that carried that and no leaks into the bay.
They should have learned from the Tampa accident in 1980 and installed barriers to protect the bridge! Would have been cheaper in the long run! I do have to say that I'm amazed that we can see this footage and the rescue/recovery operation and will get to see the salvage operation as well. Condolences to those who lost their lives and to their families and to crew of the MV Dahli who had to experience this tragedy 1st hand.
no barrier can resist to the impact with so big ship.. they need to build up a bridge without towers standing in the middle of the sea
There are concrete dolphins on site. I don’t know why people keep stating this lie that there is no protection. Use your eyes. At 0:55- 1:09 a boat is tied to one dolphin on the right of the screen. At 1:30 you can see a dolphin protection for the northern pier in the distance. But as stated a ship this size would take out most dolphins and the bow protrudes far out in front of the hull so they may have slowed the inevitable by a few seconds that’s all.
The bridge construction began in 1972
@@crosshairs3 I think the bow hit the bridge steel before the ship hit the inadequate dolphins.
INCREDIBLE how STRONGLY BUILT that ship is... going through concrete peelers this size as if it was nothing.
I saw a cut away diagram of the "concrete BLOCKS'' support structure.🙄
The engineering and scheduling of resources for the salvage will be written about.
not as big as other incidents id like to add and yes itd be written on how America once again doesn't learn from its past mistakes.
Someone said that this is going to be the case that gets studied in engineering colleges, just like Challenger was in the 80's and 90's.
@@nitehawk86 we can hope so as massive improvements will come from it as a safer port is a better one
Hard to believe that damage was done by a vessel traveling @ 8mph..crazy
I worked at the Port Of Baltimore, my only question is, why were there no tugs escorting her past the FSK Bridge. She had 2 tugs assist her off Seagirt berth, they left her once she made the main channel. If it isnt law, then it needs to become law, tugs must escort ship past FSK Bridge outbound, and ships must have tug escort from Fort Carol to berth inbound. Its just a common sense approach to safety.
My question would be to the port authority as to why there is minimal pier protection on all the support piers. if they knew that knocking one pier out would take the whole fricken bridge down put in more protection leading up to the bridge supports.
I would assume it's because there has been no reason to do so for several decades, until of course a boat crashed into the bridge.
Agreed, and I think most are. We have the know-how to prevent this, we just didn't use it...
But tugs cost money for safety past the bridge. .
I agree
I heard in a report that this ship hit another bridge last year or the year before
Why did he not drop the anchors
The port anchor is down.
So, its ok for a federal agency to fly a Chinese drone???? Only the public can't use them, I guess.
I thought the U.S. National/American Security Drone Act of 2023 banned the use of DJI's for federal government?
Not a DJI!
This is historical footage. Too bad there is a smudge on the bottom and right sides of the drone lens. 😪
Should leave it in place as a memorial
Busted. Dji all day. Thought y’all couldn’t use them??????
The ship has a lot of damage but it is above the water line. I feel terrible for the people that lost their lives in this tragedy.
Bow is resting on the hard ground below, it can't sink any lower.
2:52 Peak Design anchor links :)
Absolutely insane
After the new bridge is built I hope they change their policy and require the tugs escort the ships all the way out of the channel AND under the bridge. (Current practice is to dismiss the tugs after major turns and going straight)
That will only cost you more because the tugs are paid by the shippers. If the shippers have to pay more, then the price of the transported goods go up. Alternatively, more modern pier protection would likely be better. The vessel would've just run aground instead of hitting the bridge.
@@cjsebesNot my idea. Seems other harbors already require tugs to escort until they leave the harbor. They don't care about passing costs on to consumers. It will be the insurance companies driving this subject.
From here on this port needs tugboats to be with every large container ship that in in this harbour. Thats very obvious to me
its insane this didn't happen sooner. its such a narrow entrance.... its the states dude they wont change anything
That would greatly increase shipping costs and cause large delays because there aren't NEAR enough tugs on the waters to escort every ship in the waterways. That idea is really a non starter.
Ships attached to tugs cannot exceed 2-3 knots (ish) to avoid capsizing the tugs meaning that all ships in the harbor would be forced to a literal crawl. The amount of congestion that would take place and now requiring a harbor literally swarming with tugboats to get 2 per ship would easily cause delays, cost way more than one would think, and if anything potentially cause even more of a hazard assuming tugs are racing and weaving between ships to get places. The greater hazard may or may not be something of actual concern, but the other points still stand. I do wonder of a busy port is still a more dangerous port.
Nothing will happen until the debris is removed, which could be days, weeks, or months. Figuring out how the get the bridge off the ship, it’s a huge structure, and then out of there, is not a weekend job. Then the boat needs to refloat and get moved out of there. Then the rest of the bridge debris needs to be cleared out of the channel. Then they figure out how to reopen it.
@@Turboy65bingo and the extra expense to the ships operators, they will just divert to cheaper US ports and Baltimore will loose more business
Finally!
Dali with same crew and captain crashed into docks in Antwerp Belguim 2 months before. This crew should not have been allowed to port here. Ship inspections were shotty and suspect. This crew had a long history of incompetance togather.
speechless
Weird.. That almost looks like a dji phantom.. being used by the NTSB.
What else would they use? DJI is at the top of the game.
@@Cobalt135hmmm my bad. I believed a DJI ban was just passed for all government agencies.. and next they are coming after our drones. So I’m a little confused then, if they are banned for government use, why are they still flying them? Better yet… when they ban my drones, can I still fly them? Or is this a “do as I say, not as I do” sort of thing.
Yep they were supposed to be banned by them. Wink wink.
I wonder if the hull has a hole in it?
It might but from what I've heard the dali is on the bottom due to weight
how do you even clean up this, need to cut the steel without endangering your self
marine cranes, tugboats and barges bro
Well placed explosive cutting charges cut steel like butter. Call Controlled Demolition Inc for this job! Too much stress on steel to cut by torch safely.
At 0:58 I'm shocked at the construction of the substructures,those concrete piers contained with a open box, plus no collision protection against any ship..
it was also dwarved by the ship, fully loaded, looked to be better than half the mass of the collapsed portion of the bridge.
that sort of construction is standard, filling that box would've actually weakened it.
not placing adequate bollard piers at the channel entrance is more of a problem
Pictures of the result, which is not a very surprising one when a ship nocks a support column from under a bridge.
In footage from just before the collision we saw all lights on board go out. Only the lights? How about power steering/ navigational and communications systems? Was ik logical at the point of the outage for the ship to be aligned for disaster? Or should she already have been aligned for a safe passage underneath?
How about redundancy and back up systems?
Has the crew been heard? Has the captain or the shipping company come with a statement?
All the interesting things are to be found out below decks and on the bridge imo. But okay, let’s say they’re just warming up for that.
It was aligned in the channel when the power failed the first time. They got misaligned while trying to do an emergency stop.
Plus theur is a cement truck under the bridge
One of the problems is greed. They keep building these ships bigger and bigger to hold more containers. They need to put a limit on size or bring the manufacturing back to the US
These containers were leaving US for colombo, Sri Lanka.
Si el buque presento falla eléctrica, el capitán debe reportar a la USCG y su debe despegar del muelle debió haber salido asistido con remolcadores de altura hasta el fondeaderos a reparar o determinar la falla, prueba de mar
Контенеровоз жалко..где были лоцмана???
Quando se pede a proteção de Deus antes de sair através da oração, seja qual o meio de transporte.
Tragédias poderiam ser evitadas ❗
(Salmo 90,1-16)
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3:26 roadway slab section
Thanks for pointing that out.
the steel structure of this bridge looks so fragile but i’m not an expert, just saying
It’s a chain reaction.
Wow, aren't you smart.
To say that is a major shipping lane the protection of the bridge piers is flimsy to say the least, it was an accident waiting to happen.
The collision had the same energy as a ton of tnt...
It's quite a big ask to protect against that.
@@dougaltolan3017 it is a big ask. However, they should have had dolphins.
Quote from Newsweek:
"Dolphins are protective objects-sometimes equipped with their own fender system-designed to protect a structure from impact from a marine vessel."
So they needed, and didn't have, something like a crash protector on a freeway, only much larger.
@@grmpEqweer please don't quote journalists... (no I'm not on a "MSM bad" rant)
Theres a saying:
If you can: do.
If you cant: teach.
I like to add "if you cant teach: be a journalist"
As I said, the impact had the energy of a ton of tnt.
If there had been dolphins, the front of the ship would crumple and the deck and everything on it would just carry on and demish the bridge support.
Yes, there should be some sort of protection, but there will always be an an accident big enough to break through it.
NTSB dropping the ball
You can’t protect anything against something this massive and heavy
If only they made some sort of guiding boat ,maybe 2 or 3 to get it out of the harbor
I wish I worked for the NTSB
Get a technical education would help.
LOS-dronging? ;w;
This was a fracture critical bridge, no structural redundancies.
There are 17,468 of them in the US.
Of a total of 615,000 bridges in the country.
From a good NTSB briefing. I was astounded by the numbers.
No bridge can withstand losing a main support.
Edit due to comments
It was what you could call a balanced bridge for the reason that it all fell just about simeoultaneously, but at the same time a 100,000 ton ship just took out the main load bearing support/foundation of the bridge and extra structural reinforcing can complicate the construction of the bridge in possibly some negative ways. Even if the bridge were super reinforced and only the structure surrounding around the main support was damaged, there is a decent chance the whole bridge would still be scrapped since some intensely high stresses and loads as well as some unwanted shifting of the rest of the bridge supports/structure could take place.
The bridge pylons were not adequately protected. If this had been done (as previously and repeatedly recommended by engineers), the bridge would not have collapsed. That cost pales in comparison to the monies that will now be spent to fix this mess. And, I wouldn't be at all surprised if other jurisdictions with at risk bridges add dolphins or other protection systems asap.
@@FishingPlanetMobile64NTSB said it was only going 9 mph.
now find the money to build every bridge redundant to all contingencies. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this is not how the world works, sherlock
@@wtxrailfan stil. the ship was only laden with about 150k tons of cargo. light load, eh? give me a break; no bridge in the country would withstand one of these hitting it at .5 mph, and thats the ENTIRE POINT: bridge isnt supposed to be hit by boat.
Is this now the first ship with two bridge decks?
So funny it hurts!
@@nancyaustin9516 It triggered you so mission accomplished.
I know Nancy, she laughs at anything....
JK
Some see opportunity for levity in an otherwise tragic situation!
Personally, that was a fantastic choice to see that which others don't. ....
@roberthevern6169 It's not like my comment was a bridge too far.
That'll buff out
My dad has an awesome set of tools!
No fender system? Didn't the Skyway teach anything?
You can see the wooden fender in drone footage. It got annihilated.
You let me know what would stop a 162,000 ton ship at 8 knots.
Cool lookin’ contraptions in the video.
What happens now?
Tow cranes on barges out to load cut up sections onto other barges. Look up how they move oil rigs out to sea
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that boat salvage and scrapped asap?
Repaired.
I don't like how everything electronic fails and your dead
In the water. Hydrologic steering must always be functional even with out electricity.
And what about Boyeng!? Soon the whole world will laugh at the USA! Are there only old idiots living there!?
Dear Chirhu, what does steering wheel hydraulics have to do with it? Do you watch TV at all? News Every month in the USA there are train crashes with chemicals. Have you heard anything about the Boeing Corporation? Why are you telling us about the hydraulics of the rudders on the ship if you are not an expert!?
The Dutch are coming to the rescue.
What drives the hydraulic pump ?
you're dead
Upgrade that drone
Alot of misguided opinions here.
It's the internet.
uh huh. "misguided opinions"? Starting with yours? There's nothing wrong with friendly/respectful discourse and offering your own common sense or informed opinions based on the current state of the information you have.
@@tjones261there is if you are wrong, now move along
@@ocoolwow Wrong? What if I just keep repeating my opinion over and over, until everybody is sick of it?
I mean, eventually... Won't that make it right?
I know what's right and what's not right. Trust me.
You ain't lying... Lot of insane ppl needing mental health checkups ..paranoia , and PTSD are real and need to be taken care of..
DJI DRONE ! ^,^
I appreciate the frugality, but the NTSB still using an ancient Phantom drone instead of a much more capable newer model makes me wonder if this department is underfunded
It got the job done perfectly.
If they have to get down low to the water, it makes more sense to sacrifice a lower quality drone, than it does a high end camera or something, it gets the job done and less worry about being near the water level
They r like every dept not directly pushing DEI or helping in Biden's reelection. But, truthfully, it's always been underfunded. My neighbor is a senior investigator.
If it works it works. That is how government work.
welcome to government work
boys preparing for new jobs,a new bridge must be build and another ship must be fixed 😁
Grandpa, you are doing everything right! You are confidently leading the country to collapse! Keep it up Joe, you are a real sailor, even though you sometimes fall down the stairs
Wait wait wait how in the heck is NYSB using a DJI when they are suppose to be banned hahah cant make this uk
Wonder if the singapore captain and crew care about the people they murdered by leaving port. They probably already left the country.
11 the old will be new again.
What kind of 80's drones is that wobbly thing...LOL..you guys need the DJI mini 2.it can fly through THOES girders like sewing.
Singaporean-Indian owner/management company that manages the ship ( Singaporean firm Grace Ocean Pte. Ltd and Indian manager, Synergy Marine Group) Big company, they manage many ships, they are good at what they do and their pricing is affordable. Need to look into their bureaucratic practices, how they fix things, how they deal with repairs and what is the paperwork/real work balance. The ship has a good history according to it's official maintenance report. We'll see what was the sequence of events that lead to catastrophic power failure at a very important moment.
its official
except for the part about them crashing this Ship within the past 2 Years.
Management company was not indian but from Singapore only crew was indian
@@akashpatel8410 Ok then, I'll make an edit in my post, my apologies "The owner is Singaporean firm Grace Ocean Pte. Ltd and and manager is India Synergy Marine Group"
Unofficial report suggests contaminated ship fuel caused engine failure
Like debris left over at Chernobyl.
using a Chinese drone DJI thats adorable
DJI makes the best drones period. I was suprised to see that old dji phantom because most state and federal agencies are banned from flying any Chinese owned drone. All drones are made in China anyhow.
Why is that Biden said American taypayers our going to rebuild the bridge why isn’t the ships captain and the company responsible to pay for the whole damn bridge
I had that same question, but after talking with my coworker we came to the conclusion that the US and Federal Agencies will foot the bill to rebuild the bridge ASAP, and then the federal government will sue/battle the shipping companies insurance policy/company for the majority of the bill. It'll move quicker that way
Just more money laundering dawg.
Because it's easier to spend somebody else's money.
Chinese drones are America’s top choice. Protectionism won’t change that...
What happened to sanctions? Did the NTSB brought them in the black market? Operated by? CUA? ?
NTSB using a (banned) DJI drone?
they are not banned yet.....
First they have to retrieve the bodies, then open the shipping channel.
if they can.... currents could have take one or more much farther... sometimes the call off the search and a body will wash up after bloating
Yea….. that’s no longer feasible. They will wait for the bodies to come to the surface naturally.
They already gave up on finding the remaining six
The salvage starts tomorrow
@@Abaddon231 Four. They found two in a pickup.
First they need to stabilize the wreckage, then recover the bodies, then open the channel.
is she sea worthy? 😂
Sad, very sad. Now I'm afraid to drive across the Richmond - San Rafael bridge in California where you get stuck for hours while the bridge shudders and trucks blow over in the wind. Need some engineering comment reassurance!
How long can you tread water? Cause I'm gonna say that if you're on that bridge when a giant container ship hit's one of it's main supports, treading water is going to be your main survival skill. Might want to keep a floatation device on the passenger seat.
I wouldn't drive there either
And here I was afraid to drive because cars kill 50,000+ people per year in the USA alone!
@@3rdpig hits one of its main
Well, you are much more likely to be hit by lightning.
Where's the Mayhem Guy when you need him?
Dean Winters was on the bridge! A favorite saying of mine comes from the Led Zeppelin album, Houses of the Holy, the track is 'The Crunge', and in it Robert Plant asks
(as Messrs Page, Jones and Bonham provide overdriven backup music)
'Have you seen the bridge?? Where's that confounded bridge!??'
That lyric has been with me since the Baltimore Bridge was built!!
Now, I need to take a bath with my Maersk floaty toys!!
Impressing pictures !
In my opinion the fundamental cause of this tragedy is embedded in "race to the bottom" economics.
Hope they don't have Stare Farm, they are not paying a single dime.
Funny. I thought the same thing.
But in reality they're insured by loyds of London. Just like almost all commercial vessels
Das wird jedenfalls richtig teuer werden für alle , Schiffe die nicht in den Hafen können Schiffe die Auslaufen wollen, dann Leute die über Brücke pendeln,usw
Thought DJI equipment was not supposed to used by federal agencies due to security risks?
How do you know they're using DJI?
Nvm lol
I haven't seen a phantom 4 in forever 😂
I can't even wrap my head around how that ship is still afloat. A testament to Korean shipbuilding.
The bow is actually pushed down onto the seafloor by all that weight, so not "technically" afloat.
What's amazing - and a tribute to the Korean engineers and shipyard workers is that with all this damage, she hasn't flooded at all.
Very stout, strong ship.
All the damage is above the water line. Any deeper would have been much different situation…
They have a lot of thick metal up front to protect the ship if it hits something. It's not really designed to protect the deck so much as the lower hull, but it is a benefit nonetheless. It's also a bit barrower there so the bridge folded around it to an extent, although it's amazing to me to see a section of relatively intact roadway and even concrete center barriers sitting flat across the ship. It's definitely strong to take such a hit.
Ummm. Y’all supposed to be flying blue list drones. 😂
"I think we can buff that out"...
can someone feed all of the frames into polycam or smoething to generate a 3d model?
You'd think the NTSB would have a nicer drone. Plenty of drone options out there to make 3d scans and take much better photographs/video.
Washington post puts their story saying that the ship crew is thanking God that they didn’t die but what about the people who were driving and working on the bridge that did die. Ultimately the ship and the ships owner are responsible for the repairs for the bridge not the taxpayers. The only way the taxpayers would be on the hook as if the pilot screwed up but I don’t think she did but there’s always a possibility question asked should be was the pilot who was in command of the ship at the time did they have a ultimate class license or was it a limited tonnage class? Meaning, a smaller ship size
A pilot is never in command. A master can allow the pilot to directly issue steering commands, and most often do but the responsibility of the ship never relinquishes from the master. The pilot is only there to serve as an advisor, even though they are required by regulation. The only place in the world where a pilot has legal authority of a vessel is the Panama Canal.
I didn't see a faa transponder on that drone if we have to have them so do you
Джо Байдон построит новый...Украине помогает миллионы долларов...для него это пустяки...
What's with the ntsb helmets? Was the drone built by boeing ?
They're climbing around on a damaged ship with a thousand tons of broken bridge hanging overhead.
Was Biden at the helm?