This is really good advice, it's easy to become pessimistic about a matchup because of a preconceived notion of how it plays out in the abstract, and sometimes that becomes a barrier to just looking at the screen and trying to come up with solutions against the person you are currently playing. I forget that too sometimes, and playing Baiken definitely contributes to that, as we focus so much on practicing and perfecting offense and setplay and it leads to a lot of very linear thinking.
Even if a matchup is 1/9 you still have to work for your one win on the set instead of letting someone freestyle on you all day If a matchup is winning or losing you still press the buttons, and a lot of people seem to forget that
Good video, the editing felt quite natural. What I missed was a more concrete example of what a plan actually is, and how it could look like. For example, what was your plan in the Nago vs. Baiken matchup? LK's Frosty Faustings video was very insightful because he explained his "odd" decisions and also laid out his gameplan against Happy Chaos. I kept waiting for a: "For example, I approach this by ..." but it never appeared. While the plan is usually quite obvious against outliers like HC and Axl, I struggle with defining it in more "muddy" matchups that don't have an obvious solution.
Well that's for the player to figure out. But Hotashi did mention a few things like more f.S, more H kabari, longer less commital pokes in neutral that can still net good reward on counter hit and keep your safer and unpredictable, as opposed to just doing IAD j.S over and over.
So sometimes I forget that Hotashi is insanely good. Realizing three minutes into the video that the Baiken he was blitzing was Lakey really helped remind me of that fact
As afausr player who ends up doing only 2p, item, and bag in neutral, this vid was eye opening. Thanks for the help. It might be slowly clicking for me.
11:20 something that came up that is pretty interesting to me. I don’t get why people are hung up on the whole ‘well LK wants to play a different character because he thinks it’s a bad matchup.’ This idea that has been formed is horrible because now we think baiken v nago is super unwinnable lmao. I don’t get why this just automatically dooms the matchup as a whole. In reality, they can be finding something to make their life easier in the matchup lol.
One of the biggest problems with saying LK is looking for another character for the match up is because he is a pro player and it's his incentive to never lose a game. He can play the match up. He just has to find every benefit he can to win, even if it means playing other characters. And using that logic foe normal players is insane.
Really glad I caught this stream. I've been feeling a little lost with how I've been playing lately and your criticisms have carried me miles in analyzing my own play and what I should work on incrementally.
If you’ve built up bad habits like this Baiken has you just need to replace them with new, good habits. If I have a bad habit I make it my goal to NEVER use it again for maybe a few hours or a day when playing and try to focus on other stuff. You’ll probably not win since you abandoned a strategy that works sometimes but it’s good for getting over autopilot or bad habits
I've got Lakey on my team in the GER team league. He's already really good, thanks for playing with him and giving the straight-forward advice. Definitely going to utilize this myself too, get myself a bit better. Great Vid!!
Another Baiken player identified me either being extremely passive or shooting to close space, a lot like Lakey does to handle these matchups. The advice still holds up months later, and it makes sense that it seems to be a common hurdle for Baiken. Waiting (hoping) for other players to make a mistake helped at the beginning but I've been working on preventing heavy pressure before it happens especially with how the game has changed in Season 3. I'm glad you touched base on this topic, feels very applicable to where I'm at personally. One question, was this a scheduled Metafy session, Twitch viewer battles or chance encounter?
It's kinda weird comparing lk mindset switching char to this MU, sure lk might be be learning another char but you know for sure he has a plan for what to do if hes ever in the MU.
In my experience (as Nago) neutral vs Nago is: Step 1 - block the spin Step 2 - block the mix Step 3 - you didnt block the mix, did you?... Step 4 - wait you didnt even block the spin?!
"my shit playstyle" step one my dude, fix your mentality. You're rank 1949 as of this video. you are in the top .5% range of players in the game. give yourself a freaking break dude. Secondly: @Hotashi, what would be very interesting and more helpful, is to see how one creates a gameplan. the baiken player clearly does not have one or they would respond with there plan, or would have linked a flow chart to chat. I for one would love to see a nago pro-player create a flow chart plan for baiken (with what he knows about the fight) from a perspective of a nago player. hand is broken, im chalk full of drugs, i apologize for my typing and grammar, but i really needed to say these two things.
So instead of giving up on neutral because it is not in your favour, you try to make it good enough to justify the other strengths of your characters
neutral being disadvantaged doesnt outright make a matchup bad either, it could still be even or even winning
No dislikes? Here before lord knight
This has reached me as a baiken player. thank you hotashi for inventing neutral in fighting games
This is really good advice, it's easy to become pessimistic about a matchup because of a preconceived notion of how it plays out in the abstract, and sometimes that becomes a barrier to just looking at the screen and trying to come up with solutions against the person you are currently playing. I forget that too sometimes, and playing Baiken definitely contributes to that, as we focus so much on practicing and perfecting offense and setplay and it leads to a lot of very linear thinking.
Even if a matchup is 1/9 you still have to work for your one win on the set instead of letting someone freestyle on you all day
If a matchup is winning or losing you still press the buttons, and a lot of people seem to forget that
Good video, the editing felt quite natural.
What I missed was a more concrete example of what a plan actually is, and how it could look like. For example, what was your plan in the Nago vs. Baiken matchup?
LK's Frosty Faustings video was very insightful because he explained his "odd" decisions and also laid out his gameplan against Happy Chaos.
I kept waiting for a: "For example, I approach this by ..." but it never appeared.
While the plan is usually quite obvious against outliers like HC and Axl, I struggle with defining it in more "muddy" matchups that don't have an obvious solution.
Well that's for the player to figure out.
But Hotashi did mention a few things like more f.S, more H kabari, longer less commital pokes in neutral that can still net good reward on counter hit and keep your safer and unpredictable, as opposed to just doing IAD j.S over and over.
So sometimes I forget that Hotashi is insanely good. Realizing three minutes into the video that the Baiken he was blitzing was Lakey really helped remind me of that fact
As afausr player who ends up doing only 2p, item, and bag in neutral, this vid was eye opening. Thanks for the help. It might be slowly clicking for me.
Oh yeah, you gotta toss some fS, some HS, Lunge, j2k and other goodies in there.
11:20 something that came up that is pretty interesting to me. I don’t get why people are hung up on the whole ‘well LK wants to play a different character because he thinks it’s a bad matchup.’ This idea that has been formed is horrible because now we think baiken v nago is super unwinnable lmao. I don’t get why this just automatically dooms the matchup as a whole. In reality, they can be finding something to make their life easier in the matchup lol.
It's just a different approach to the same problem.
One of the biggest problems with saying LK is looking for another character for the match up is because he is a pro player and it's his incentive to never lose a game. He can play the match up. He just has to find every benefit he can to win, even if it means playing other characters. And using that logic foe normal players is insane.
Lakey’s a very strong player. Good to see them progressing to greater heights
And yes, they are a Winty Gengar. At least from an I-No perspective
Really glad I caught this stream. I've been feeling a little lost with how I've been playing lately and your criticisms have carried me miles in analyzing my own play and what I should work on incrementally.
As a Millia, this is exactly how I play and I don't know how I would go about fixing it.
If you’ve built up bad habits like this Baiken has you just need to replace them with new, good habits. If I have a bad habit I make it my goal to NEVER use it again for maybe a few hours or a day when playing and try to focus on other stuff. You’ll probably not win since you abandoned a strategy that works sometimes but it’s good for getting over autopilot or bad habits
@@Bridget_gg appreciate it. Sometimes it's a matter of just needing to think faster somehow.
Always digging the Homestuck tunes
Your music taste is fucking beautiful
Strive and The Seatbelts go so well together
Snappy editing. Very cool love it. Glad Hotashi is in better health again.
gotta give this gamer the corporation
Really loved the editing. Super cool and fun. Keep it up!
I've got Lakey on my team in the GER team league. He's already really good, thanks for playing with him and giving the straight-forward advice. Definitely going to utilize this myself too, get myself a bit better.
Great Vid!!
Gonna have to catch your stream sometime, would love to get this kinda of critical review at some point.
Love the educational vids!
iad j.s is such a powerful tool that a lot of Baiken players use it to climb the tower, myself included. gotta break that habit to level up.
Hey Hotashi, is it possible for us to get a song list for the video?
top left my man
Great vid, Mr Hotashi
That's a big plan
Analisys
lakey cooked me at frostys. Didnt expect to see him in one of your vids
Hey editor!
There's a typo in Analysis* in the thumbnail :)
Thanks for the vid
i like brisket
Another Baiken player identified me either being extremely passive or shooting to close space, a lot like Lakey does to handle these matchups. The advice still holds up months later, and it makes sense that it seems to be a common hurdle for Baiken. Waiting (hoping) for other players to make a mistake helped at the beginning but I've been working on preventing heavy pressure before it happens especially with how the game has changed in Season 3. I'm glad you touched base on this topic, feels very applicable to where I'm at personally.
One question, was this a scheduled Metafy session, Twitch viewer battles or chance encounter?
Ok now show me a good gameplan against Testament as Sol
Don’t be ass then you win
Amazing video
11:17 Idk why chatter is bringing LK into this.
song at intro?
LK beat testurluck nago in bracket very recently. Obviously takes a lot of skill baiken is hard as shit.
How do you apply for these gameplay reviews
engagement comment
It's kinda weird comparing lk mindset switching char to this MU, sure lk might be be learning another char but you know for sure he has a plan for what to do if hes ever in the MU.
good shit
Johhny main here just bout him today hoping to get good with him is he a good character?!
do it for him
Was that the fucking Shinobi main menu theme or am I twerking
how does he have that round start animation
Mods
In my experience (as Nago) neutral vs Nago is:
Step 1 - block the spin
Step 2 - block the mix
Step 3 - you didnt block the mix, did you?...
Step 4 - wait you didnt even block the spin?!
"my shit playstyle"
step one my dude, fix your mentality. You're rank 1949 as of this video. you are in the top .5% range of players in the game. give yourself a freaking break dude.
Secondly: @Hotashi, what would be very interesting and more helpful, is to see how one creates a gameplan. the baiken player clearly does not have one or they would respond with there plan, or would have linked a flow chart to chat. I for one would love to see a nago pro-player create a flow chart plan for baiken (with what he knows about the fight) from a perspective of a nago player.
hand is broken, im chalk full of drugs, i apologize for my typing and grammar, but i really needed to say these two things.
tsoob mhtiroglA
:)
Homestuck music, modern MTG player...
Maybe this Hotashi guy is alright