Top 5 Red Cards
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- These 5 Red Cards were ground-breaking and reshaped our gameplay. _______________________________
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Honorable mentions: bit.ly/4bXedaj
No Dockside Extortionist in the honorable mentions?
Maybe pin it like Jamin said in the video :)
Did you guys forget fury?
Lava Axe
No fireblast? Boo!
3:41 Ok, they're just teasing us at this point. BRING ON THE SERIES!
It's coming soon! 🤠
@@CardmarketMagic i only got 5 days of holiday left, do i get to see the first match before getting back to work? :x
I wonder what you will show us as the best Green Card 😁some random stuff like channel or the real goat? @@CardmarketMagic
16:00 It's clearly Shock the Monkey.
Yes this.
Came here to post this
There's also the very nice alternative of Choke the Monkey.
💯
“Fox the fox
Rat on the rat
You can ape the ape
I know about that
There is one thing you must be sure of. . .
Darling, don't you monkey with the monkey!
. . . Don't you know you're going to shock the monkey?” 🙊
@@sethdaley2821 I also came here to post this
3:34 The improvement from Shock to Lightning Bolt is 50 %, not a third.
The math is weak with the world
It is a 33% reduction from bolt to shock though, and a lot of people get confused with those asymmetrical bits sometimes.
@@Seltaeb_ Yeah, they do. I work as a teacher, and I see it a lot with my students.
@SelvesteDovregubben reciprocal fractions equaling equal distance from 100% does just feel like one of those intuitive math facts to be fair.
Unfortunately it's never that easy for long.
Only if Shock was printed before Bolt
Carl putting Thoralf's english on blast with subtitles *chef's kiss*
Haha when was this??
You mean his English on BLEST?!
4:43 blest black cards xD@@thomaskiser3886
@@thomaskiser3886 his discussion of "blest back cards" during the Underworld Breach segment, haha
@@DNGNDriver thank you!
Comparing Ragavan to Jackal pup gave me an idea for a video concept. (And maybe you've done this before). But the idea is upgrading old competative decks with modern power crept equivalents. So you would want to keep the general spirit and functionality of the deck the same but swap out cards with their modern power crept equivalents. You could even do some sort of funny time traveling bit.
Isn’t that just Vintage
I would love to see this. Sometimes, I look up old tournament decks and see how I would upgrade them to be more modern.
Would that just be changing MonoR decklists from the past to newer MonoR decklists? I mean ... its always the same deck.
@@robert8984 Naw, there'd have to be some rules. Such as, you have to replace each permanent with the same permanent type.
Or perhaps the spells have to have the same cost as the ones before.
I think the powercrept version of Jackal Pup would be Goblin Guide, Ragavan is played in different strategies
Before hearing the list:
1. Underworld breach
2. Wheel of fortune
3. Lightning Bolt
4. Ragavan
5. Faithless looting
4/5. Pretty good!
One red card that isn’t mentioned in the article but that is so good it was banned in legacy is goblin recruiter
I remember back in M10 when Lightning Bolt returned to Standard. It was such a moment of joyous moment for players.
remember the bolt flavor text in m10?
If only we have a way to know what is better, bolt or ragavan... Like with a deck with only bolts vs a deck with only ragavans or something.
That might be my favorite episode ever from this channel.
I love how every once in a while, when somebody flubs a line, instead of editing it out the editor does the exact opposite and highlights the flub for all to see! I absolutely love this. It gives such a casual and relaxed vibe to y'all's videos. Love y'all's content. All around great stuff!
i actually have a fun Ragavan story! my first time playing UR Murktide, in the second round of the fnm I was playing against a weird combo deck that used a 1 of Emrakul as the win condition. We make it to a game 3 and on turn 2 I dash a Ragavan, he connects and exiles the Emmy. Opponent does some thinking to figure out if theres any way he wins that game, then extends the handshake and concedes!
He only had one win condition in the entire deck??? Lol
@@thomaskiser3886 Maybe they were otherwise ahead enough that only the combo could've won at that point, so no combo = no chances to win.
But, don't underestimate how jank the jank people play are.
Emmy as a win con usually only 1 copy. Because you really don't want to draw it.
Tibalt's trickery and Fable done dirty xD
Fable ain't close
Tibalt's Trickery was broken, but only in modern, and only until they fixed the MDFC interaction. Well, it's still banned in modern, but the card remains unplayable outside of that format.
That said, you're right about Fable. Ragavan is honestly overrated as hell here. It's a strong card, but again, only in Modern. Fable of the Mirror Breaker is a powerhouse in every format it's legal in.
@@LibertyMonk I think you have Fable and Ragavan mixed up. Fable's the one only used in weaker formats whereas Ragavan is either meta or banned in every format with MH2 besides Vintage. It's an answer-or-die card.
MDFC had nothing to do with Tibal's Trickery @@LibertyMonk
@@sorin_markov fable has won every pro tour/worlds it has been legal since the new capena championship. Afaik 3 years of consistency makes it a really good card
Great video as always, boys. I would love to see you guys make an appearance on other shows such as Game Knights or Shuffle Up and Play - hopefully there can be a collab soon!
Goblin guide deserves an honourable mention. Its one of the few old creatures with downsides, that are still playable.
I still think of a Goblin Guide as a "newer" card. But I started playing in 96.
Love the content as always, can't remember the last video I missed.
Glad to hear Blue Moon getting a shout out, holds a very special place in my heart as the deck that properly got me into Modern and into the game in general
Carl brought up a great point on the comparison of Bolt vs Shock, which reminded me of another thing you can teach new players thanks to Bolt. And that's Lightning Strike vs Bolt. 1 mama may not look like much, but it can mean a big difference
Love this crew! Keep up the good content
I once played Blood Moon in draft (Amonkhet Invocation) and it really did a good job since my opponent drafted Desert archetype x)
I’ll never forget when Ragavan was spoiled and people dunked on the card. But then immediately realized how busted he was.
Nobody dunked on the card? It was immediately obviously powerful and presaled for 50 € before shooting up to 90
@@ClubbingSealCubmodern players are notably really bad at assessing cards. Hogaak, Sheoldred Apoc, and arclight phoenix were considered shit
@@franslair2199Fury was considered the worst of the Evoke elementals
@@ClubbingSealCubThe wider opinion was that it was broken, but there was a pretty decent section of the player base which thought it wasn’t that good because of Wrenn & 6 and Lava Dart (which was everywhere at the time because UR prowess was the best deck).
This didn't happen though
Depends a lot on the format. In Commander, Dockside Extortionist and Deflecting Swat are definitely top 5. In Cube, Broadside Bombadiers, Fable of the Mirror Breaker and Caves of Chaos Adventurer are top 5.
I thought it would be a top 5 red cards that "changed the game-state" the most, like Scrambleverse and Thieves' auction, not game changing cards 🤣
hope you guys do this for every color!
"Shock the Simian"
An answer to kill Ragavan with a burn spell : "Heat the Ape"
Awesome video as Always ❤
14:00 Before Jackal Pup there was Savanah Lion without any downsides.
I really like your background music in this episode.
I picked a few of these, surprised not to see Splinter Twin or Fires of Invention on there but then at the same time everything that did make the cut makes sense. Glad to see Lightning Bolt getting the respect it deserves, I'd argue it's basically format defining in Modern.
11:55 the crazy thing about this statement is the opposite is but true too. As in the strongest cards in a vacuum don’t get played much. Because of how much you usually have to do to use them.
Teasing the Pauper best deck ever series?! Lets go!
In vintage the go to combo with wheel and time twister is hullbreacher. Also works with orchish bow master and sometimes sheoldred. With hullbreacher you get your mana back worth of treasure plus a black lotus and a lotus petal worth. So you get rid of their hand and get 7 one time use mana worth of treasure very powerful even for vintage.
Some of the top game changing red cards for me are “smoke, sneak attack, fury, terror of the peak, grapeshot, and tibalt’s trickery”. Edit: forgot “transmogrify”
Grapeshot and Sneak Attack are probably up there, though Sneak Attack has always been a little gimmicky
Eh, Grapeshot is not even the best Storm payoff. I think Faithless Looting is messed up. Sneak Attack I agree with.
That is a much better list tbh
Can you guys make a video where it's jam as many different mechanics together? I wanted to see what it would be like to play with energy counters, the dungeon, the monarch, experience, quests, emblems, etc. all at the same time!
Jamin's take on blood moon made him my favorite Cardmarketer
Welcome to the next installment of "Rubbing embarassing losses in Jamin's face"! Now with a new "I am so done with these guys" reaction face! Stay tuned for more!
My favorite thing is when i save a cardmarket video for later then when i refresh the title changes lol
Blood Moon is such an important card because it’s a meta check. It keeps greedy mana bases in check.
The only one I missed while guessing was Ragavan. I'm not as familiar with newer cards. I picked Goblin Welder. Also, I put Wheel of Fortune at #1.
Broadside Bombadiers is probably deserving of a spot on this list
I know it’s brand new but it’s literally the best non-power card in Vintage Cube which is kind of absurd for a red 3 drop
Good take
I liked Wheel of Fate a lot - it happens after a few turns but it's free then, so you both get a new hand on your upkeep, but have all of your mana open too.
I’ve cast both karns from a Tron deck with ragavan … that was pretty fun
Blue Moon was a sweet deck!
16:00 - I nominate Annihilate or Axe the Ape.
Thanks for the reminder fellas I gotta slot Blood Moon into my Historic Brawl Ragavan deck. I'm playing it out of necessity because i've not spent any money on arena. Got a 15 Wins 3 Losses rate yesterday felt so good.
I've been getting good luck with a budget Etali, Primal Conqueror deck. Most ramp options are cheap so you're not wasting gold and mythics on anything, and when everything you opponent has is powerful you can lean into it to get wins quickly. I regularly cast Etali turn 3 or 4 because of all the ramp I have, and I've gotten more wins than I deserve because of luck. Sometimes you get a counterspell you can't cast, but sometimes you get an extra turn spell and some ramp to flip Etali on your extra turn and 1 shot your opponent with poison counters.
I have very rarely played with any of these spells. (Most of my time playing was in the time when Lightning Bolt was considered too powerful to reprint.)
For some reason I thought Wheel of Fortune was still closer in price to something like Gaea's Cradle compared to something like Copy Artifact. For such a staple Reserved List card, I honestly might have to come around and finally pick up a copy. The French or Italian white border cards seems like a good deal.
1:14 "After this was printed..."
I mean, it was in alpha. "After Wheel of Fortune was printed" is the same as "while Magic existed"
watching card market, mein mutter just brought me a big jar of sauerkraut to open, and i have to practice a wagner etude after i watch this.
i'm the most german man in california today lol
Ragavan is only truly wild if you weren't in the weeds of early yugioh where Yata-Garasu could lock you out of the whole game even without Chaos Emperor Dragon being main way to do it. I was legit shocked when Ragavan got released because how could they not see how much it feels like a broken legacy card that gets limited to one a deck.
I've played Ragavan twice. It was in my worst deck and I just tossed all my expensive cards into the deck trying to make it work. It never really did, but one game, I got a wild no lander and kept. Opening hand had Ragavan, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Commander's Sphere, and Moonshaker Calvary. I can't remember what other two cards. Turn one: Crypt into Sol Ring into Commander's Sphere and then cast Ragavan. Turn two: Attack with Ragavan, get a treasure, played whatever was on my opponent's deck. Turn three: Land, sac treasure, and tap out the stones for Moonshaker. It was a silly game and was over on turn 5. Monkey too powerful.
Personally, I would have switched position 1 and 4 for this ranking, simply because Lightning Bolt is just the ultimate red card for me, but I'm fine with the "more powerful" card taking the win, here. Thanks for the video, folks!
I know this is only for legacy. But, I feel that price of progress deserves a shout out. It is single handed player removal for 2 mana, also a big fan of Eidolon.
Im surprised "Before I cast this cool pirate, how many artifacts and enchantments are in play" didnt make the list.
I'm surprised Fury didn't make the list or the honorable mentions. It seems stronger than a lot of the cards in the honorable mentions. Same with Sneak Attack and Fable. Also, this card is probably too new for this list, but I think the current strongest red card in Vintage cube is Broadside Bombardiers (might be Fable but this card is nuts too). That card does so much damage.
This series has turned into “Dunk on Jamin” and somehow feel for him and find it hilarious
Bolt is one of the cornerstones of the original design of the whole of magic.
Great video! I love red decks
I build a standard one
I love turn 1 winds of change (edited).
1 red all players suffle their hand into their library and draws that amount of card.
Basically force your opponents to take a free muligan they are stuck with regardless of how bad the new hand is.
Winds of Change?
@@bondeulv yes! Thanks for the correction - head full of cold
One of the biggest steps on your MTG skill curve is the moment you understand that Lightning Bolt is (even) better in control decks than in aggro decks.
I've never played Magic before, but for some reason keep watching videos of other people playing. I successfully guessed that Lightning Bolt, Blood Moon and Ragavan would be in the top 5.
Im relatively new to magic and drew a ragavan at the MOM prerelease. I looked at it and thought "hm... Neat" and put it away. Later into that event somebody bursts out with excitement and shouts that he got ragavan and i started googling the price of that card and only then thought of telling my boyfriend (who got me into mtg) that i got ragavan as well 😂 i thought it to be a really good card but it didnt occur to me that it could be worth that much xD
surprised dockside extortionist didn't make the top 5. But good list!
It was a period of *intentional* power increase in order to try to sell more cards.
Maybe Meteor the Monkey? I just like the idea of someone casting a Shivan Meteor on a Ragavan, he deserves it though
Won one of my games in a recent cEDH tournament almost exclusively on Blood Moon, shut down my opponents so hard I barely had to use any of my other control magic to hold down my advantage to the win. When it works it works HARD.
Toffel caught so many strays lol
Please never stop highlighting a card with clips of Jamin losing to that card
3:59 then release it allready. XD
I feel like I went cold turkey, ever since the community posts.
I neeeed my pauper! Pleeasse!!❤
We filmed the top 7this last weekend :) after a few weeks of Swiss rounds. Now they'll be out as soon as I finish editing them. Probably in a week or two
@@CardmarketMagic thaank youu!!! 😍😍😍😍
I am so hyped! Pauper has definitvely become my most hyped format. It is affordable and an extremly good starting point if you want to start competitvely and it's sooooo satisfying to watch! 🤤
Pauper series pls
RIP Dockside 😢
Also, I was 100% expecting them at some point to say Shivan Dragon
Goblin Recruiter is a really good card specifically in Goblins. Getting to stack your entire deck is something that doesn't belong in Magic.
Wheel of fortune is at best 7 card advantage for 3 mana, but usually more like 3-4. 2 mana draw 2s are usually bot banned, the problem is, wheel can assist a mono red beatdown deck thats faltering against a midrange or combo in topdeck mode to reset the board, and deal like 8 damage next turn., likely closing out the game. It makes an already stron archetype too consistent.
The Ragavan Quote is "Shock the Monkey."
Blood moon will always be my second favorite card in magic next to lightning bolt. It just is a card that can win games and do nothing at the same time.
I still rememeber when my ragavan kept connecting against a mill player and i milled them out
As a token swarm player there's really only one way to counter Ragavan.
Chump the Chimp, 1 nameless token is always worth it
underworld breach is so busted id argue its a top 10 magic card of all time. its one of THE best cards in vintage currently
7:50 WotC is lying to our faces when they say they missed cards like this, they know exactly what they're doing because broken cards create hype and interest in the product
taking them at face value after so many obvious failures is just being a willing rube at this point
Wizards should print Bolt Lands, triomes which enter tapped unless you pay {3}
Wow, I'm SHOCKED Fury was NOT included in this list..
It IS a 2 for 1
But it's so devastating on-board..
I'm suprised Simian Spirit Guide wasn't somewhere around here
These kinds of videos are fun and all, but i really wish there were some more regular feature matches of pioneer or old standard decks, with pros. The best part of this channel is how easy it is to follow along with a match, with seeing cards in hand, cards hit off something like impulse, and the amazing interviews. The newer more faster paced feature matches are not nearly as engaging.
Please play MonoG ponza in the best of Pauper!
Honorable mention to dockside
Blood moon! Personal favorite.
You guys should look up the red sorcery "Warp World".
I forgot about Breach. I was betting on Looting and Fury rounding out the top 3
14:07 I will not tolerate Jackal Pup slander😡 Jackal Pup, combined with a Pariah's Shield (and something that makes the Pup kndestructible🙄) is one of the greatest combos you can find in all of Magic. #RespectTheJank
Fable of the mirror breaker not being on this list I feel is a crime
It’s only won the last 4 pro tours
I thought Chandra flarme of nalar might have got as it was so versitly for so long
Faithless looting is just out of competition since its to broken
For a new "bolt the bird" phrase for Ragavan, "murder the monkey" maybe?
But murder is a 3cmc card. By that time the match is over
wheel of foturne is terrorfighing realise that they printed not 1 not 2 not 3 but 4 difrent cards that break it
narset, nekuzar, shelodred and of course bowmasters
you forgot the best one, hullbreacher. while bowmaster is also very strong, hullbreacher is used more. 7 treasures is a lot of mana enough to win the game most of the time, plus they don't have a hand... and it has flash so both can be played with just 3 mana.
@@mow123 fair enough
Shout out to PAINTER’S SERVANT!!! My favorite red card!
"Inciner'ape" xD
Thanks
No Pyroblast, even as honorable mention? Sure, it only interacts with a single color... but it interacts with the color that's preventing you from casting your own spells and stops them from doing so.
I thought this was going to be about red cards that change the game while you’re playing. Here I was expecting Warp World, and Scrambleverse.
That would be a cool video, about cards that change the game a lot (like Space Beleren)
@@codacoder he’s red?
A video for each color pls@@TheUniversalEclipse