[FREE SPEED] Can A World Cup Mechanic Make Me Faster? ⏱
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- In the world of competition Downhill and Enduro the mechanic and rider relationship is very important. Some team mechanics wear many hats, similar to a world tour golf caddie, but all in the name of one thing, to help extract the fastest race times from the rider! But what setup changes do they make to the bike?
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I'm convinced! I'm about to head out for some weekend trails, I'll pick you up in 30, Owen
I have a new set of wheels to assemble I'll drop them off in 30, no worries you can do them after sikkness ride 😊
Uh-oh! Ummmmm... guys, let's talk about this 😅
"the only difference between screwing around and science, is writing things down" - Adam Savage
Amen 😅
This needs to be a series.
Thought processes and how to setup bikes for race applications is so mystical.
Owen is an legend great at explaining things and so good to have someone who is a complete expert explaining it all. Asset to GMBN
Thank you - huge honour to help out on the channel - and super pleased that me explaining my insights helps - cheers Owen
Good that you explained that you've ridden the track before, and also before doing the timed runs. That's a major issue if you don't already know the track, as subsequent runs will almost always be faster.
On the other hand there's also a positive feedback loop when you feel more comfortable on your bike. You can then suddenly do different lines that you couldn't do (or didn't want to try) before.
Yeah definitely important to use common ground when it comes to testing!
Yes, free speed that comes from changing tires, which are of course free.
Less expensive than tires but that's like $15 worth of sealant and a $20 pack of spacers to add onto the "free" total too.
dont fall into the dropping pressure and adding tokens trap when trying to gain small bump sensitivity! you'll end up sitting in half your travel all ramped up and stiff. sometimes MORE pressure is needed to make it feel smoother!
This !
Yeah, especially when you go faster and rougher trails.
I think a good bit of it is that Rich as an experienced rider can describe well how the bike felt and what he was missing. Would be cool to try this with some random, less experienced riders hanging around in the bike park.
Haven't watched GMBN content for over a year. I'm glad Rich embraced the inevitable.
Also, Owen reminds me of A-a-ron.
hahahha
THAT SPINDRIFT IS 🔥🔥
It’s a looker ain’t it 🔥😍
Great video, very fun to watch this in the context of the current DH championships to understand just how much work the team crews put in. Would have loved to see multiple repeat runs being done with each setup to average out any small human errors that could have been made by Rich while riding down.
Getting to know the track your riding is also key to understanding how your bike is working❤
Crackin video gents. It’s time to go racing for you two. It’s 🎉 Enduro season.
I REALLY like Owen!
Thank you!
This combination of Owen and Rich is golden 💯🫡
Why Thank you!
really great video giving a brief set up guide and then seeing the timed results after each small change ...thanks guys
Glad you liked it!
Simply explained vid that you can relate to quite easily
Cheers guys
Thanks mate, the pleasure was all ours 👊
Great vid. For myself and maybe many others knowing what is not right or feels right to fix it or have a mechanic fix it is the issue. Rich can explain what he feels, it's too linear or I'm not getting small bump sensitivity. Maybe a video breaking down if you see this or feel this then it means this.
Owen and Rich that was so good,really learned some great tips and how good was the times as you dialed things in.
Cheers!
Glad we helped - good luck on the trails - Cheers Owen
Great information
Looks like a nice short cockpit. Long reach has been overdone in the past few years. Glad to see bike fit dialed back a bit.
Owen looks both 20 and 40 at the same time😄
Thanks - I think?
LOL, thought the same, cool bloke!
Nice video guys. Really love the detail and how well it's explained. 20 seconds over 3mins is massive! Looking for a mechanic to make me 10% faster so I can do 10% fewer intervals.
Or...hear us out here... 110% as many intervals, plus the mechanic = 130% faster?
Informative yes. Now I want to return to BPW!!! I'll start with Popty Ping thank you.😊
Glad that this helps!
Cheers
Owen
@18:23 I've been telling this that there's barely any sag setting video that tells to setup tire pressure, no one mentions that, since low or high pressure can affect the way the rear shock sag's. I thought i was just over thinking. There you have it straight from the mouth of the mechanic. I even posted in Reddit seeking some answers.
Thank you!
Yep as you say setting tyre air pressures then suspension sag is super important - as you say tyre pressure will affect the way the forks and shocks will function - so for optimising suspension and the bike dynamics starting the with the first contact point and first spring in the system is pretty much essential!
Cheers
Owen
Rich is now Owen optimised™
And Owen is now “Rich acclimatised” 😂
As an ex pro World Cup mechanic I thought Owen would have also used a digital suspension pump for accuracy like he did for the tyres 🤔 Great video though guys 👏
Don't need the same level of accuracy, 5psi increments is usually plenty. Whereas tyres you definitely want the 1psi increments.
Just so you know, that massive hornet wasn't a hornet. It was a wood wasp, which although they look scary are actually harmless. And the bit that looks like a sting is just the ovipositor for laying her eggs.
That is 100% a Hornet. Are you from the Wood Wasp Preservation Fund?
Its a European hornet, a very docile creature, sting is mild like a honey bee sting and actually on the endangered species list as they're often mistaken for Asian hornets and killed. We have quite a few in south wales and I often see them alongside honey bees in the flowers. They eat garden pests, wasps, caterpillars, moths so are generally beneficial in yiur garden! Although I admit they do look pretty scary when you see one for the 1st time
What’s also amusing is that I do all three of those trails you mentioned on a hard tail with 150mm travel lol. I will be there this weekend if you dont believe me 😂
I got the same tyre pressure gauge and I always carry it on every trip as well. That said I got a Park Tool INF-2 shop inflator and it is off by 2-3 psi compared to this digital gauge, and I have no method to check which is more correct. That's why I just stick with one of the two and use that every time to adjust pressures after, and that's the gauge simply because it's portable. The shop inflator is just to boost up the pressure quickly and be in the ballpark, and then adjust from there with the digital gauge.
One extra nice thing with that Topeak D2X is that it doesn't drain the battery when it's not in use like a lot of other items do. I put a battery in it 2 years ago and it still works no issues. It's not about the cost of batteries, but reliability in which you can trust the tool to work for X amount of time.
That's why being a PRO in everything's is levels above as regular people who know how to fix a few things in our bike, insane! -18s in the final run that's massive specially If it is an actual race!
I use a digital tyre pressure gauge all the time because my floor pump is way off, it is off by about 20-30 psi
If it is consistently off then you just offset. Also, how do you know the digital is accurate?
@@Monkey_slapping_keys whenever I use the floor pump and I feel the tyre it just feels to soft to be the pressure it says it is where as the digital pressure gauge seems to give you more of the exact pressure. I can’t remember by who but there is a video of someone tested a few digital pressure gauges and they all where within 1-2 psi of each other
Owen is the Edd China of GMBN 🤘. They definitely have the same barber!
I would love to see the same sort of video but with Blake on his trusty hard tail and Owen setting that bad boy up. Obviously rear tyres and tyre pressures makes a huge difference there. But front forks, is the approach the same or slightly different? On a different view, when I blew out my front suspension on my 2013 Giant Anthem X29er, I went straight to the Giant mechanics, told them what I was riding, how the bike was being abused, problems I found. They fixed the suspension, then sat me on the bike, set up sag and everything to my weight and the bike became so much more capable and is still one of my favourite bikes out of the 9 bikes I have. But the tyres were a game changer for sure. The original xc tyres were puncture city. They set me up with a slower rolling but stronger trail tyre, grip went up and punctures literally became a thing of the past. I highly recommend going to your bike mechanic, especially if they have their own race teams, they know what to do.
Surprised that when setting the fork pressure and rate profile there wasn’t monitoring of travel utilization.. knowing if the tokens are just preventing bottoming out can help with the decision on pressure vs more linearity.. also always good to rerun the original or one of the earlier settings at the end to confirm consistency of times and take rider improvement or fatigue out of the equation…
I typically use Sam pilgrims suspension settings because they are always “the best!”
Now we need a spreadsheet with what data to take note off... Mind sharing, @Owen???
Rich - what sag did you set front and back on the Spindrift, please? Ta
Owen in his prime! Im here for it.
Thanks for watching!
Now start with the good calibration and go backwards in setup and see if the times and feel of the bike correlate.
I feel that it's so hard to shred even 2-3 seconds off from my rides in my local trail no matter how I push it. Maybe it's time to make some adjustments...
How do we reserve Owen? Plan a trip to US guys!!
We'll get the GMBN Bike Nerd consultation website off of the ground asap 😉😅
I shyed away from CC because every review I've read through my own searching hasn't been great. I'd expect for that price to be equal to Ohlins, EXT, and Push SV-8. I'm not convinced CC is there yet.
Было бы не плохо чтобы в конце в описании было написано что стояло на велосипеде 🚴🏼: покрышки, давление ( аморт, вилка, колеса ). Вес гонщика и краткое содержание что есть на велосипеде 🚴🏼. Спасибо 🙏.
YO i have the same brakes on my bike as the ones on yours!
What size is this Propain and how tall is Rich. Is it a Large?
Where can we order our Owen ?
www.rentanerd.co.uk/ 😉😂
the first set up has a dumb tyre combo, fast front and aggressive rear, perhaps meant to go backwards?
@gmbn how about Owen riding his fine tuned bike on a timed lap on the same track that Rich went through?
Oooft - now thats a challenge!
Cheers
Owen
@@OwenBikeNerd awaiting your next gmbn tech show! Cheers!
What is the timing system you used guys? Cheers
Great Question -
We used the BYB Chrono system
Cheers Owen
Luckily i'm slow enough that it wouldnt change much LOL
I'm slow too - but working through set-up changes step by step can really help gain some extra confidence - its well worth a try - cheers - Owen
Love the video lads! That derailleur knock hurt my soul though..
Us too 😬
There isnt a single shop in the country or brand that can put a bike together which doesn’t need reworking later because it’s falling apart after 1 or 2 rides. I have little faith here.
When Rich was talking about brakes 15:57 you showed GUIDE pads, they do fit right in the CODE brakes BUT they dont line up with the rotor! I did this, I know.
Campagnolo made that chair?
Where can I find a cheap World Cup mechanical online ?
Ha ha ha - Great Question - but you don't want a cheap mechanic!
Don't forgot you can always ask me any questions - via the - #ASKGMBNTECH
Cheers
Owen
Check…tyres have air in; suspension, hard tail; brakes, what?; brain, foggy…..good to go
22:58 You can't replicate what's going on up there, but based on some previous video, you can get somewhat there with bog brush and googly eyes.
There's deffo some novelty toilet brush merch opportunities here
Swiss card?
I have a top question. Why the hell are you boosting the jumps on a speed run ??? 🤷
Why Propain ?
To be fair the mechanic didn’t do anything he just did what the rider suggested(except for the tires). Skill with phill has a great video where the mechanic pushes back and tells him no u wrong.
That's why the greatest Formula 1 and Nascar drivers, moto champions, etc are also good at "reading the machine" so setup doesn't take the whole qualification runs 😂
Be good if you used Owens technical knowledge on the finer details to make the 3.00 min run faster. You didn’t need a World Cup mechanic to change your tyres!
12:17, did anyone else think he said bollock is ready? or was that just me? haha.
How bad I wish I lived there
When did you become bald like me? 😆
why does everyone wear roost vests over their kit??
World cup it?!?!??! ......... Wheres all the beer cans??
The question is: can we make a World Cup Mechanic faster?
😄🙌👊❤️
Tyre choice was obveously wrong intentionally 😅😅😅
Who is Mo?
Isn't it all about balance, the rider needs to know the course, the more time rides it the better he knows the course,
The mechanic just needs to know what the rider wants stiff/softer suspension, faster rolling tiers,
Hi
Hello
Im first can i get a pin
📌 sure thing!
Bike mechanics… lol! The definition of under qualified and over payed! There is absolutely nothing that a bike mechanic can do that a normal rider can’t. The mechanics of a bike are so simple and technically primitive that quite literally anyone can master it.
Hmmm, they definetely are better at it and absolutely worth it for racers. So - yeah you can do verything yourself but they are better and faster and take the stress away from you.
all mechanics are simple when you have the right tools and knowledge. Pro teams employ bike mechanics not because wrenching on bikes is hard, but to free the racers up to race.
@@user-kb7ij6ye8uA rider I sponsor has a dozen batteries to check and six data collection points on her mtb .
I used to laugh at guys like you that used to come into the Harley Davidson dealership i was a tach at for 20 yrs .. 1st of all you have no idea how much I make .. 2nd you have no idea what I know or how to do it .. 3rd you didn't have to pay for the 100k of tools I own to fix your junk ... 4th you think hiring a good tech is expensive GO hire a cheap one and see how expensive it can really get with somone who doesn't know what they're doing ... guys like you are the ones who refuse to spend the money on a service manual but constantly ask techs questions about how to do their jobs .. to cheap to buy tools but want to come to the shop and borrow mine NOPE ain't happening clown