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SIMGOT EM10 & SUPERMIX4 DEFINITIVE REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- EM10 & SUPERMIX4 RANKED (IEM Ranking List):
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0:00 SUPERMIX4 BREAKDOWN
0:42 SM4 vs EA500LM & EA1000
1:26 SM4 vs EM6L
1:55 BEGINNER FRIENDLY?
2:45 GREAT VALUE
3:23 EM10 BREAKDOWN
3:45 TIMBRE & TECH
4:05 EM10 vs PILGRIM
4:38 BASS vs PILGRIM
5:17 WHICH ONE??
5:57 good but...
6:20 EM10 vs HYPE 4
6:42 Mini Monarch MK3?? (vs TOP/VARIATIONS)
7:15 vs MEGA5EST 7TH ANNI
8:19 vs NEUTRAL SETS
8:42 SM4/EM10 WORTH IT?
Like I said. These comparisons are the BEST in the audiophile community. It answered every question especially since I wanted to compare them to the Hype 4 and the Chopin 🙌🙌
Agreed
Yeah I don’t understand a lot of audiophile terminology but a lot of this made sense to me
@Jwoosle Exactly!! Same here. A good reviewer makes it more accessible to others who may not be familiar with the subject
thank u 🙌🙌
@@jayyaudio Absolutely!! 💯
Can't wait till DaVinci comparisons 😘
From the graph it doesn't appear very airy 😢. I like good treble extension 15kHz and above
@@h1a8exactly! Its such a good value for $300 with all the accessories included and 5 way crossover, but the TUNING in the treble isnt my preference😢😢😢
Not sure if its worth buying it and just running eq or not compared to just getting hype4
@@h1a8 For my sensitive ears, that is a huge relief... I cannot fathom unnatural treble extension - instant wincing pain. Give me smooth over sparkly sibilance, any day.
@@h1a8 I would not trust the measuring rigs above 15k, stahp
@@h1a8 Me too and I solved those problems with a Symphonium Crimson and a HiSenior Mega5EST. I'd give the tech chops to the Crimson with a TON of tip rolling and I pretty much ended up back at square one in the end lol. Also the Mega5EST to me has the all encompassing sound that he is saying the em10 has, and I am sure it does, if it is anything like the Simgot EA1000 it definitely should have the extension for the weebs, but I can't say much for it's soundstage as it is a single DD iem as opposed to I think its 10 per side on the EM10. Still doesn't make me not want to try all the new hype, but for the most part a lot of this is just false hype by reviewers to keep getting these free items. If you play ball you get free send ins for reviews. I would like to say I'd do the same as Jay here is doing for Simgot, and for now I would because they are above board and the products are well made fwiw. I just would never give a good or misleading review to a product either just to get their latest and "greatest". Ok audiophiles....rant over. Even the weebs 1 love!!! ;x
So much good shit coming out these days🤙
Great insight/comparisons as always brother!
Looking forward to the Davinci & EM10 comparison - no, they're not the same price category, but still, it would be interesting to see how much more you get for the price increase.
Great review Jay. Good to see you ditched the sunglasses filter too-it's better this way👍🏻
great comparison of em10 with the other iems! thank you for the review
Ngl, I though Jay was sitting in a throne doing the review in the beginning.
😂
He is the Elden Lord ;x damn oversized throne!!!
Dude, your reviews are go to. Yes, my EM6L are absolutely fantastic IEMs, but the graph comparison is accurate to my ears, they are a bit hot in the treble. I would pick up some Supermix4s. Thanks. No more cartoon sunglasses. 😁🙌
Just received the Supermix 4. I have Kara, EA1000, P5, S15, Falcon Ultra. In terms of technicalities and evenness/smoothness, the Supermix 4 trumps everything I have. Others may have specialities in something, but on a whole, the Supermix 4 is very all-rounded.
how does s15 compare against supermix?
Do they have good soundstage? I have no doubts it's smooth and technical but soundstage has always been something iems struggle with
@@bestcocbaseswithlink5069
S15 still has a thicker sound, but the SM4 is much more open on top and sounds more refined and polished. Two different signatures, don’t think one could replace the other m.
@@haziee3108 it has much wider soundstage than the EA1000, the EA1000 sound cramped relatively, but it’s not a good or bad thing, more intimate could be more engaging. The soundstage is wide at the left-right, depth I not as good as the EA1000.
@@zeissiez among s15 and supermix, which is more resolving and better imaging?
Excellent review. I’ve got the LM which I love (I don’t find them bright!).
I was thinking about the EM10 but will hold off for now. It will be interesting to hear your views on the Da Vinci.
Thanks bro! I think I’ll go for the EM10
Great review as always, but that shirt is 🔥🔥🔥! You are the most stylish reviewer.
Thank you for your comparisons, going to get my endgame IEM MK3 tommorow😆
Np, enjoy
One of the best to ever do it!
Great review! Now we gonna wait for jay collab, davinci, tangzu 🐖, aful explorer and cantor 💀
Putting those sets side by side really helps uncovering their targeted audiences.
Supermix4 achieving similar results as the pula02 but with very different driver config is impressive considering its price.
Like the Aful Magic One this iem is a technical flex from the the audio engineers.
I think the smoothness achieved there can serve music mastering.
Great video
Waiting for your iem buddy good luck
🤞 thanks g
Glad I got back into this hobby. Might grab the supermix next month
Thank you for always making wonderful videos.
I bought the Hype4 as my endgame, but the vocals felt more distant compared to the BQEYZ Winter I had been using, and it didn't suit me because I love vocals.
My ideal would be a Winter with enhanced bass. Do you think the SM4 fits that description? When you highly praise something, it makes me want to buy it.
EM10 probably or you can wait for what I'm cooking
Thank you. You're not a salesman, so I can trust your review.
Cant wait
Update: SM4 is on its way; dont let me down JAY! 🤣
Great Job !!
I recently ordered the ARTTi T10. At the moment my go to dongle is the DC04pro.
Is it enough produce quality sound out of the T10?
ya you're good
@@jayyaudio Thanks bro!!
Great comparison!
What advantages does the Monarch mk3 have over the Em10? And vice versa
more air and treble detail
Love the review of both simgots in one vid! I'm still undecided whether to go for the sm4 or save up for em10, you mentioned that the em10 has more impactful bass than sm4, but as I observed from the graphs from hbb and akros, the em10 seems to be brighter at 3k and when sm4 is adjusted to have the same peak at 3k, the sm4 would have more midbass / warmer. I prefer a more engaging bass/midbass more than my current Nova, and the em10 seems to be just too steep of a price for current me to save up...
nah the EM10 is noticeably bassier than my SM4, it's very noticeable. You can also try the Hype 4s if you want more bass (or what I'm cooking ;)
Very nice review je
I was doing 40 minute test playlist listening this morning with Artti t10, ea500lm and cca hydro and I have to say the hydro is absolutely replacing both of them. I don't feel like I'm lacking anything in the hydro that I would get from either of the other 2. Hopefully my supermix 4 ships soon
I would like a bit less shimmer and 1-2 dB less mid-bass bass in the all down switch position..If they do this it will kill all the giants without mercy.Kz has become very serious with this iem
@@anatol1204I mean eq is free. You don't have to wait for another revision to do that
looks like I'm buying another KZ
@@jayyaudio it needs a tiny bit refinement on the highs Jay.Bass mids and technicalities are very good though
From what akros was saying, supermix 4 is slightly more refined than hydro. Still pretty great. Wish I had gotten mine from alliexpress for $100 instead of on Amazon for $150. What impresses me the most about the hydro plays any genre I throw at it (not a good judge of classical)
Question: What dongle dac would be a good match to the Supermix 4 sound? Great review!!
I'm not really into dacs, but I use the TOPPING G5
Jays without glasses 😯😯
I was planning to buy an mid tire allrounder I had identified Chopin but now I will wait for Supermix4.
Great video Jay, just looked up the price of the Em10… $600 Canadian? I’m out lol
Yeahb I went with a steamdeck oled instead lol. I have too many iems atm, and the hype 4 is very satisfying as is the doscinco for a "beater" version. I really want the davinci, but im going to wait for more reviews.....I don't need 3 of the same thing lol.
@@Hijynx87 Consider selling one of the 3, I'm looking to grab one of them eventually but I'm forced to wait for more comparisons.
Are you going to review the TSMR X, would love to know your thoughts on it
probably not
Nice review Jay. To my ear the Pilgrim is a bit brighter, airier, and more detailed up top whereas the EM10 is tighter and punchier and more detailed in the low end. Really loving both sets though. What tips are you using on the Pilgrim?
Which of those sets have a more immersive sound?
Well, the Pilgrim has more air that surrounds you. But the EM10 has better isolation and creates this black background environment. So, I guess it depends which kind of immersiveness you're looking for.
@@misterfinerthingsgotcha, the kind of immersive sound I'm talking about and looking for is that wide, wrap-around-the-head sensation of being inside the music, as opposed to standing at a distance from the music.
Right on. If you end up getting the Pilgrim, you just need to tip roll. For me, those Thieaudio white tips were the best pairing. ✌🏻
I used whatever fit since the fit was too shallow for me with my other ones - tangzau divinus on the Pilgrim, and Sancai on the EM10. I the Pilgrim is cleaner for sure, not sure if I'd say airier, although it does feel more laid back
Question regarding vocal tier list. Where would Storm rank in your vocal tier list at what volume level?
mid to slightly high volume, S tier
@@jayyaudio thanks!
Hello, I am comparing your opinions with others and have made purchasing decisions based on your rankings, I honestly enjoy each purchase.
I trust that your project and your prototype will be at the level we expect from you.
thanks for the trust
i swear the iem world always got me on my toes, was gonna get the lms, waited a bit, sm4 came out, glad i waited, and then probably in another few months something better is gonna come out and it keeps going.. forever.. and ever.. there is no end..
The new releases aren't as 'better' as people make them out to be. The hype train is overblown, just get whatever sounds interesting to you and you shouldn't be disappointed.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 which is everything.. everything sounds interesting bro 😭
The hypetrains are greatly overexagerated indeed. I still have IEM from 7 years ago (Empire Ears Zeus) that still competes with new IEMS on similar price. This hobby is similar to wristwatch. Just because technology is getting cheaper and more accessible, doesn't mean newer releases are always better and old ones become obsolete.
@@bigbean7273 Then try a few ;) they hold some value if you have to resell.
@@kawaiikoto8800 idk if google is right but those are way outta my budget 😔. rn im at the stage where im reading graphs and listening to demos to see what i like, and im not 100% certain what will suit me but since i listen to a lot of different genres these definitely caught my eye. i understand hype train is a thing but also like hey, good tech and tune is getting cheaper as well :3 so that's a bonus
What is the most immersive wtap-around-head IEM, Jay? Can you name 3? (Except Dark Magician)
OG EJ07, EJ07M, OG TEA/TEA 2
did you have any issues with ear tips falling off the nozzle of the em10? i noticed it doesn’t have a nozzle like the hype 4s which help the ear tips grip the nozzle.
nah
Thanks for the review, I own the simgot ew200 that I prefer over the em6l that I had, should I choose the supermix or the ea1000 for the same price? I mainly use headphones but I like iem too and I am looking for an upgrade of the ew200, I listen all genres of music
supermix4 smoother overall, if you want more bass and treble energy go EA1000
@@jayyaudio grazie 👍
I wish i held out into my money before cashing out to a new iem in the same price range as EM10 last month 😅, that tuning looks gooood, might actually be my 1st simgoat
Jay I use the CHORD MOJO 2 to drive my headphones the AUNE AR 5000 and I love to EQ its fun. I dont understand why its frowned upon LOL Iam 53 so in my youth on my dads stereo a NAD he had a graphic equalize and it was fun to goof off with so i find myself EQ differently to different songs its not a burden its fun to me and in a way its a way to analyze how I hear things but long story short does the SUPERMIX4 take well to EQ I am considering the CHOPIN but now you bring up the SUPERMIX4
Supermix4 better than Chopin
I'm waiting for the DaVinci reviews to make a decision between that one, the Simgot EM10 & the Hype 4. It's a great time to be in the hobby at the moment with really good sets at the different price ranges.
It's between the EM10 and DaVinci for me too. I hope the EM10 goes out to more people soon so we can see that comparison. I want a nice all-rounder and I don't want to buy anything else after either of those. I hope either of those 2 will do that for me.
@@stfn112 It's pretty much the same for me with the DaVinci being the one I'm really looking forward to hearing about especially at it's price point.
I though the EM10 would be at the same level as Monarch MK3 and others.
How much would you rate both of them out of 100?
Whats the tuning of your IEM?
90% of MK3
@@jayyaudio doesn't seem much. What about the SM4? Really waiting for your discord group to discuss this further.
@@chinmayrasam what do you mean doesn't seem like much? 90% is 9/10 that's like 90% as much for what 1/7 the price
Market iem become more and more good everyday. And now simgot, this brand really do amazing thing this year
I am in doubt between the kiwi ears quintet and the simgot SM4 which one is better? My preferred sets so far have been the letshuoer s12 pro and the CKLVX D41.
probably quintet since it seems like you like more energetic sets
Coming from someone's who never used iems before but have tried various headphones. In terms of quality, which headphones does the simgot em10's can be compared to in a relatively similar scale?
HD600 or something harman
SymphonyEars, hi i need help with recommendations for my next end game ieam for overall use, i play a lot of games(mostly fps), watch series and movies and i hear a lot of music (different genres but mostly pop and metal) any recommendations? SIMGOT SUPERMIX4, then SIMGOT EA1000 modded with 500mesh filter, gold nozzle and deep wide tips and now i hear the nova is amazing too, what should i choose?
Fresh review said the SuperMix 4 is the best
Either SIMGOT EM6L or Supermix4 works
I hope the SM4 cures my audio addiction...
The em10 graph is like an improved elysian diva graph on max bass, now I can sell my diva and get the em10/sm4 :)
Not wearing the shades is a good change. Keep it up.
eta on the davinci? currently super eyeballing that atm
cant buy them, not available on taobao so we'll have to wait till I get back
@jayyaudio Simgot Em10 vs Studio 4 how do the compare? I am looking for $400-$500 upgrade from my Truthear Hexa with 10ohm bass booster combo? I like treble, a lot air, detail and extension. I added the 10ohm booster to tame the sharpness in the hexa and to slow speed of Hexa to being more natural and giving slower fuller bass.
EM10 better
Jay are you still in china, and if so which part did you go to?
Xian!
Would love to see intuaura splendor 2 review
How big is the EM10? I struggle with finding IEMs to fit my ears so worried that they will be too big
medium size
Since your in china did you get a chance to test out the aune ar5000?
nope, first time hearing that
what would be better for gaming and music listening Xenns top or EM10?
EM10
@@jayyaudio how is the tuning compared to xenns?
Have you tried io volare and yanyin canon 2, Jay?
nope not yet
Actually my plan is to get both DaVinci and SM4, i wanted something a bit warm and something neutral.
probably davinci then
How about sm4 into em6l?? does it also have the same insight with the sm4 vs ea500lm and ea1000?
1:26
My em10 is coming in today, hope that it wont disappoint.
How is it? did you end up liking it or not?
@@gamingsamim4777 pretty good, first time truing harman tho, nothing wrong with it, very good subbass, female vocals sounds better than male vocals.
Im so confused about the EM10 vs hype4 comparison, so the hype4 undoubtably has a bigger sound stage, and both have good bass, but what about the treble extension, and detail retrieval, clarity, etc. Which wins there?
Neither are good for the price, but em10 better.
@@kawaiikoto8800 ??? what is better for the price then lol
@@FaZeTartpack easily Pilgrim, then Dusk 2. Volare is also a step above compared to those two, but they are slightly more expensive.
@@kawaiikoto8800 ??? did you not watch the video or have heard any of these in person? the Hype4 already is better than the Dusk, and the pilgrim is also better than the dusk. The hype4 has a better soundstage and is overall better as well than the pilgrim... not to mention Dusk has a billion problems... people shouldn't have to use a DSP cable just to get below mid tier audio
@@FaZeTartpack Jay hate crin, don't take what he says at face value. Dusk 2 is one of the best iem regardless of pricepoint.
Jay why hbb em10 shows insane amount subbass and bit more midbass compared to hype 4 , but you think that hype 4 is more bassy set?
depends on the unit, my Hype 4 has a lot more mid-bass and lower-mids which makes them bassier, although the EM10 does have more sub-bass, but overall my Hype 4s sound fuller because of the extra mid-bass + lowermids
Em10 vs hype 4 vs tea 2 which of them has more treble and good for R&B, vocal soft music ???
EM10
Em10 vs hype 4 sound separation and detail which one ?
Treble and detail EM10 is better, as mentioned in the vid, more slightly resolving than the Hype 4. If you want a bassy set, get the Hype 4, if you want a more balanced set but still great bass-->EM10.
The Supermix 4 graphs with much tamer than the other Simgot sets. If I want a safe treble tuning the Cinno or Kailua both seem like good alternate picks, depending on how much pinna or mid-bass I want.
How does the Meteor compare to EM10? Which one would you prefer?
METEOR is a mid-bass centric IEM with a lot of air, whereas the EM10 is more well-rounded. If you want bass-->Meteor, if you want a set that can do everything-->EM10
Thoughts on the supermix vs the ziigaat cincotres?
cincotres is more energetic with better bass, supermix4 is smoother
Hype 4 vs EM10
He covered that in the vid
@@Rsalmond83 yeah for tiny bit not enough comparsion in my opinion
Treble and detail EM10 is better, as mentioned in the vid, more slightly resolving than the Hype 4. If you want a bassy set, get the Hype 4, if you want a more balanced set but still great bass-->EM10.
Eyeing the the supermix. I have the tangzu zetian wu heyday, how do these compare?
supermix better
@@jayyaudio Ty for the response! Keep up the great vids!
The price is almost the same as the Mangird Top, how would you compare to these two ?
EM10 better than top, watch the vid
SimgotXJaysAudio / SimgotXMmagtech when?
Davinci & Explorer soon?
How does it sound being plugged directly into a laptop/phone? I heard these sound worse without a dongle because of their impedance.
Need a dongle/amp
Oh my god jays eyes
Bro, where is the Yaniyn Canon 2?
I wish you'd get your hands on Meyer audio slt6
me too
Ej07m still competitive nowadays, Jay?
kinda, if you can get them on sale ya
Which is best value for money under 100 dollars right now
EA500LM, or Tangzu NV
@@jayyaudio which is better vfm in these 2
Davinci vs em10 plssss
Hi may i know hoe em10 compared to studio 4? Thanks
Studio 4 is cleaner with more focus on the vocals, EM10 is better bass and all-rounder
Seems Xenns Mangird Top going to be redundant very soon.
Once again great review. I don't know if you have the Dita Project M on your radar yet, you really need to check out this set, it is a detail beast at $325, it could easily sell for twice it's price.
are the supermix 4 better than kato? both same price
man you stuck in 2022 or something kato has gone extinct as rec in this hobby for long time, answer hell yeah
@@hassanalrubai7378 how about aful performer 5 vs supermix?
supermix4 is better than kato and p5, it's one of the current benchmarks around $200
Tanchjim Ola bass
Or
Sigmot ew200
Or
Trn conch
Or
Moondrop CHU II
Or
TRUTHEAR x Crinacle zero RED OR BLUE
Or
Kz pr3
Or
Kz zs10 pro x
Or
7HZ x Crinacle zero 2
Or
Blon x HBB Z300
Or
Kinera Celeste pandamon 2
Or
Nd x12
I want a gaming experience for a normal person to use, and they will be useful in FPS games, such as ambient sounds, watching videos, and podcasts.
The bass is not as important to me as the sound, its purity and clarity are more important
Is there a better option than them in the $40 category?
KZ Castor bass
How does it compare to studio4 in tonality?
more bass and detail, but not as clean and forward in the vocals
I dont feel the need to get geeked out with graphs my ears hear what they hear and I spent years EQ in my youth but i couldnt tolerate the EA500 i think it was called reminded me of screaming children with HIGH PITCH screams throwing a tantrum
How is the SM4 compare to Hidizs MP145?
better, smoother, more resolving
HOW THE EM10 COMPARES TO THE DUNU SA6 MKII
I like it more, the vocals and bass are much better
Thanks for the answer! but you didn't specify which one you like best
EM10 or Hype 4?
dita project m over both
@@CesareBorgia630 so he had said in the short preview, in the comments, em10 better vocals and more balanced slightly edging Hype 4, but there very similar, and also Hype 4 has better Soundstage. Hard to decide but to me soundstage is priority, and a bit bassier isn't too bad I hope
@@residentzerohype 4 is great, youll like it. the bass isn't overbearing and fux when its called upon.
@@residentzero the soundstage and the imaging are better on the Dita project M
Treble and detail EM10 is better, as mentioned in the vid, more slightly resolving than the Hype 4. If you want a bassy set, get the Hype 4, if you want a more balanced set but still great bass-->EM10. Hype 4 has bigger sound, EM10 wraps around you more.
Is supermix brighter than pilgrim? I don't like bright tendencies
nah, it's very smooth, unless you're sensitive in the 3K area
Supermix 4 or orchestra lite?
supermix4 overall
@@jayyaudio appreciate the reply. Thanks.
By any chance would you be able to test out the Dita Project M?
sure
I wonder why there's so few reviews of new Simgot releases.
because they're all mid duh
@@jayyaudiobro you legit said the opposite in your video with your friends lmao
@@tom_from_myspace He was being sarcastic as he’s comment was actually said by Crinacle a bit before Crinacle released one of his collab IEMs that competes with some of the Simgots.
@@antonristo1096 lol I wasn't aware.
because these two really are Harman-tuned and people either 1) are bored with Harman, despite thinking it a good target to tune to or 2) never liked Harman in the first place.
how does EM10 compare to supernova?
EM10 is more well-rounded, better vocals and low-end texture, supernova has better treble and smoother
For reference where do you place the SA6 MK2 in the middle of all of this?
check ranking list
@@jayyaudio meant in terms of tuning
You're not wearing the cool sunshades =(
forgot them at home
Jay you look like a hongkong actor
hahahaha
Can we expect a video of dita Audio project M?
Why are there a bunch of robots talking about dita pm in every video?
@@nn0617 Robots? Dita is a boutique brand used to make mostly high-end gear. Of course theres going to be a lot of interest when they make entry level model.
@@nn0617 because Iem like this comes once in a while so everyone wants to know about project M from a trusted reviewer
@@nn0617 i also want jay to review it. 10 year warranty is nuts
sure once I get a chance
Would you be able to compare Dita Project M, EM10 and Hype 4 ?
dont have the M sorry
simgot 500lm or supermix4?
broke-LM
baller-SM4
supermix4 smoother all-rounder, if you want more energy and bass-->LM