Double Alpine Butterfly Loop Quick Tie Version How to Tie the Double Alpine Butterfly Loop
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Double Alpine Butterfly Loop Quick Tie Version
The Double Alpine Butterfly Loop can be used in the bight of a rope to where more than one loop is beneficial. Equipment can be secured to each individual loop or both loops at once for additional security.
Another advantage of having a double loop, is that if the rope is being made up into some form of pulley system, the two loops can be used to give a mechanical advantage.
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Also Known as Alpine Butterfly Loop Revisited Quick Tie Version - Alpine Loop Lineman's Rider Lineman's Loop Knot
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The Alpine Butterfly Loop is one of the best loop knots that is tied in the bight of a rope. The loop is particularly strong and will hold from any point from where it is being pulled.
Due to the symmetry of the Alpine knot, it is easy to inspect for security.
This knot was originally used by Linemen and especially telephone engineers. "It is absolutely secure and will hold from any point from which it is drawn." (Burger).
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Your way of teaching is clear and easy to follow. Thank you.
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Most detailed simple and clear knots description. Thanks!
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You are a fantastic knot tying teacher. I have enjoyed a great number of your videos. This method of tying the double alpine is really easy. I learned to tie the single alpine a little differently and I like your method much better.
Thanks for tying it in a less complicated manner. Very good video.
If you make the last wrap on the left of wraps 2 & 3, you can then just move wraps 2&3 right to left over the left wrap, and then left to right under the left wrap. Easy to visualize and easier to understand, especially for beginners. And very easy in the dark
Thank you very much for sharing your video! Great information! Very informative. Simple, direct, and to the point.
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we started doing roof and abseiling training at our fire brigade today. Well, I've never seen anything more addictive than all these knots, now I have not one, but a DOUBLE butterfly loop to show em, Cheers:-)
I just got back from visiting my 14 yr old Grandson, who I call my little engineer since he has an engineer's mind, and I was showing him my (late in life) dive into the art of knot tying. I had not seen your video on the double alpine butterfly loop until I got back home.
I showed him the single loop and on his own he said why not tie two loops? Next thing I know he's doing three, four, and then 5 butterfly loops, before he ran out of rope! It's all the same process, you just wind around your hand and then pull over and under the number of loops you want.
Yesterday I made my own triple butterfly loop to hang some tools in my garage.
Very useful variations!
Thanks Johnny. You're by far my favorite knot instructor on UA-cam!
Thanks for telling me this, I always love to hear about what people do with knots!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Seen a lot of butterfly tying videos but this is the best !
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Your video is so easy to follow ,I really enjoy learning from it .👍👍
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Johnny Debt I am an absolute beginner ,just happen to find your explanations so easy to follow ,now I am hooked.Thank you very much ,I am more of a practical knotter.
Good job, very simple to understand. Thanks for taking time to post this.
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Loved it.....learned a lot.....perfect for creating leverage (like a truckers hitch) when using like a pulley. Thanks so much
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Just completed my first triple Alpine Butterfly Knot following the extremely easy method you gave for the Double Alpine! Yes, dressing the knot certainly becomes more difficult with each added loop, but well worth the effort :) Exactly what I needed for my application. Thank you so much for showing us how!
a triple loop version, that is interesting. Off to have a play and see how I get on.
I just liked the explanations, thnx
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great video easy to do thanks!!
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Thanks!
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Nice. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
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Cool. Keeping it simple.
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First time seeing this knot. Great job thank you.
... and now you will see it everywhere!! ;-) Aha, just looked at your channel and you are more a fisherman, so why would you have seen this before? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
So symmetrical and beautiful to look at.
That also makes it easy to spot if it tied correctly. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
That's an interesting knot I've never seen. Perhaps it is rare (for someone into climbing knots) because lack of redundancy, if you connect to the loops and one fails, it seems the other one could easily roll and get loose under heavy load. I can see a lot of use for general use of this knot when life does not depend on redundancy. Bookmarked definately.
Generally double loop knots are great for stuff like climbing anchors (due to redundancy). My geometrical logic says not to trust on this one. No pull tests done by me though nor any other facts. If I'm wrong on the hunch, I'll gladly hear that!
great explanation!
Wow nice knot friend.watching from my beautifull belize.
Perfekt instruction. Thanks 👍
Do you have a specific use for this one?
@@KnottingKnots no not specielt….
Because it’s two! Yeah!
Ok thumbs up mate. Hello from SC USA.
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Should be quite suited for a double hanging,too😊
Tnx sir 4 ur vedio. very help 4 my every day work..Godbls🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
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Cool! so much easier than the traditional method. This is a great option to produce a secure double-loop in the middle of a line. Much better than the bowline on a bight, whose reliability seems to be somewhat unpredictable.
Tying this loop in polypropylene rope shows the double loop to be insecure; the double loop can slip and become a single loop.
@@danielhooke6115 Thanks for the info. Is there a more reliable knot that produces two loops? I'm not too keen about the bowline on a bight.
@@danielhooke6115 I just came across the double lineman loop, which is perfect for what I was looking for. The loops are flat, like the spanish bowline, and it's much easier to tie. Do you know if it has the same issue as you described?
@@stephanddd I'm afraid so.
Nice one i will put it to use for sure
Yep, I also like this one, if you can do the single, then the double is just an extra turn. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Double alfain batterfly good tutorial bro nice vidio
Rather nice little knot that one!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
good post ... I do a lot of camping and I am all the time tying off things from ridge lines and tarps after I watched your video I played with the butterfly loop even did a triple took a little more time to dress it but came out good.... I wouldn't want to do four ... but I am going to try the triple on my next trip I think I am going to like this really good.... thank you
What I really love about this knot is that you do not really have to think too hard to remember it. Just such a dodle to tie, send me a photo when you use it for real!
if I can figure out how to do it I certainly will.... and your right it was an easy knot I did it on the second try that's good for me :)
Sometime when I look at a new knot WHAT, is all that goes through my mind!
Nice knot
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Nice work
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Thanks very much. 👍
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Very nice. I have always liked the method you used around the hand to tie the single version but never thought of an extra turn to get the double. I always used the twist method for the double but like your method as well.
I was just thinking about what you said about the twist method. Even though I did a video on it, right now, I can not remember how to do the twisted method. I suppose when you learn a better way, the mind sometimes ditches the old way. Bit like the bottle sling knot, I can only now do it via the Bowline method. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
That's true. For me the twist method is probably my fav because it helps me visualize how the knot is actually put together. And I think I got the bottle sling knot to work once but have forgotten it. It's a booger.
Anyway here are some Twist Method links I saved for the the Alpine Butterfly Knot …
- NetKnots.com/rope_knots/butterfly-knot
- ScoutPioneering.com/videos/pioneering-knots/butterfly-knot
And another version …
- UA-cam.com/watch?v=_hTH-Luv7VY&start_at
There's another version I like that's kinda like that last link but you lay it over your wrist & use the twist method to throw one twist over the thumb & the second over the index finger then you touch the tips of those fingers together to assist in finishing the knot but I don't have that video any more. But it makes an easy way to dispense as large a final loop as wanted as well.
Ha ! Found that video as UA-cam had it in the referrals after I rewatched the last one I posted in my last comment.
Here it is. That other method starts at about 2:40 … UA-cam.com/watch?v=72_xyeN8pnM
Thanks you for those links I will go and look them up. Here is the bottle sling from the Bowline, so only one step to remember: ua-cam.com/video/fMDtu_imOxU/v-deo.html
Hey I think I nailed your Bowline form of the Bottle Sling the first time. Thanks. Video saved.
Also, messing around yesterday I found that using that last Alpine Butterfly Hitch video I posted makes it pretty easy to tie the Alpine Butterfly Bend . . .
I wish I had this one about an hour ago! (For a two directional jam knot to tie the lid down on a plastic tub) maybe I'll go out and do it right anyway
Do it anyway, just for the sheer satisfaction!!! There is no better feeling than using a knot correctly in a real life situation.
......I wonder if there's a "limit" to the number of loops that could be added?!... Three might be very handy as well, in certain applications, but, more, might get to be a difficult task to "dress" well! THANKS!!!
How about make a double and then a single side by side or two doubles side by side? Give it a go, if you write back I will know all went well ;-)
thank you :)
You're welcome!
Wow!! Very sick! Thanks, you made my day.
Excellent 😊
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I hadn't heard of this one. Only the single version. Seems simple enough. Have you seen the Spanish Bowline? it is a nice symmetrical double loop knot with the loops pointing out at 45 degree angles.
Yes, I have done a video on the Spanish Bowline, I discovered a very fast way of tying it that you may not have seen? ua-cam.com/video/bd4ozpwGtnM/v-deo.html
very nice!!!
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Thanks for share! Obrigado
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What would be the practical uses of the double alpine butterfly?
Great❤
Jolly Good. I say.
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Why not show both sides of the knot so people can fully check the knot they have tied against what you show?
Is this the loop that was used to save so many lives at Hack Saw Ridge?
NIce work mate
Hey Johnny D,
If you use the Hybrid Method to tie the Double ABK you need only 3 strands across the palm instead of your 4. And you don't have to think about which 2 strands to grab. Just grab the bottom of the 2 loops and pull.
Oh, I did not know that. Do you by any chance know what number ABoK it is?
I edited my reply, hopefully for clarity and to reflect the correct name of this double loop knot. There isn't an ABoK number for it.
BTW, what knot do you think can be made with the Hybrid Method using 4 strands across the palm?
Do tell???
A Triple ABK, of course.
Cheers Mate!
Like it thanks
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Is the alpine butterfly bend suitable for attaching ropes of different diameters and allow them to hold under load? And also untie easily?
Shall u explain, How to tie follow bunny knot sir?
Good one !thank u
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who`s better, the double alpine or the double 8 to put in the bight of a rope ?
Brilliant
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Where can I learn more about this mechanical advantage with pulleys? Is it basically "attach a pulley though the loop"? Or is the rigging used somehow?
Here is a diagram on the advantages goo.gl/1PFNUx Here you can see an image on just using rope and the Alpine Butterfly: goo.gl/VMd1wE Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Something like what I imagined, actually. Check me out- not so dim.
Nice
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Thanks.,
Great vid, thanks. Never thought of this but love the idea.
Do you know a knot for an adjustable leg loop for the purpose of ascending a rope by any chance?
I am not a climber, so not really sure, but maybe the Blake's Hitch; ua-cam.com/video/AWoPDi7nKFg/v-deo.html or the Klemheist: ua-cam.com/video/DuJI2MVZ1_E/v-deo.html could do the job? Maybe Pop over to Matthew J Norman's channel and ask him the question?
Johnny Debt thanks. Keep the vids coming. Subscribed👍
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Do you recommend a knot tying ap?
Eccelente!!!! Gracias
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Beautiful 😀
Cheers mate, looks like you are a man of adventure?
yes, I'am... one of the Thai'd Up Adventures Team 😀
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Maybe once, but far too old now!
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Can you climb one even if it’s double
Gostei (Like 3). Parabéns. Vou treinar pois vai ser útil para mim
Eu realmente gosto deste, pois não é muito difícil lembrar!
Verdade. Gostei muito.
That ‘s interes
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Nice vid it was cool. Have you seen my new vid? I can do all the things that you do now as well
Off over to yours now to have a look!!!