No. Joel Osteen tells you the truth. He simply twisted it to deceive even the very elect. He is a master magician. A wielder of demons who controls the Satanic churches in the United States. He is describing the process of casting miracles and spells, with purposefully incomplete information. You need the word of God to manifest God’s power.
I agree with you, but out of curiosity what would you say to someone who quotes Mark 11:21-24? Mark 11:21-24 ESV [21] And Peter remembered and said to him, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree that you cursed has withered.” [22] And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. [23] Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. [24] Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. Yes it's God who causes the mountain to move, but it's the believer who speaks to the mountain. So here, is the believer declaring over the mountain and "speaking things into existence"?
@@MrOlu109 I've always thought that "and does not doubt in his heart" is the important part. I don't know if that is what Jesus meant, but I've always understood it to mean that none of us have enough faith to be able to say that without ANY doubt. We are all flawed in that regard.
@@gprimeofx But that can't be the case, because then what do you do about all the instances where the Apostles "declare" something over someone and it happens? Acts 3:6-7 NKJV [6] Then Peter said, “Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.” [7] And he took him by the right hand and lifted him up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. Acts 13:9-11 NKJV [9] Then Saul, who also is called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him [10] and said, “O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord? [11] And now, indeed, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you shall be blind, not seeing the sun for a time.” And immediately a dark mist fell on him, and he went around seeking someone to lead him by the hand. Did Peter not say/declare directly to the lame man "get up and walk"? Did Paul not say to Elymas or Bar-Jesus "You shall be blind and unable to see"? These were declarations/prayers over the people and yet they had enough faith such that the miracles actually happened. So how can you say that no one can have this faith to point where they declare for something to be done and it happens?
@@gprimeofx But that can't be the case because then what do you do about all the instances where the Apostles speak or "declare" over someone and it actually happens? Acts 3:6-7 But Peter said, “I have no silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk!”. And he took him by the right hand and raised him up, and immediately his feet and ankles were made strong. Acts 13:9-11 But Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you will be blind and unable to see the sun for a time.” Immediately mist and darkness fell upon him, and he went about seeking people to lead him by the hand. Are you saying that the Apostles didn't have the faith required to "declare" over people, even though what they declared was done for them? Did Peter not have enough faith to speak to the blind man and say "rise up and walk"? Did Paul not have enough faith to say and "declare" to Elymas/Bar-Jesus that "you will be blind and unable to see"? If they did, how can you say that none of us could ever do this, when the Apostles did it? Isn't the aim to imitate the Apostles as they sought to imitate Christ? Didn't Jesus say in the exact same context, that you will be able to speak to the mountain and it will move, if you have faith as SMALL AS A MUSTARD SEED (Matthew 17:20)??
I had a woman berate me once for saying a dessert was "to die for". She said i was "speaking death" over my life. 😂. I told her its just an expression and to get over it.
i used to be into the new age manifestations stuff. like SUPER into it, i “practiced” the law of assumption and followed Neville Goddard’s teachings to the point were I messed up my life quite a bit. so when i became Christian last year I was so shocked by how many professing Christians sound exactly like New Agers and somehow think it’s biblical. Neville twists the scripture, just like Joel Osteen, but he was much more honest about being a mystic.
Totally agree with you. It is alarming how so many Christians don't have discernment. But, there is such a thing as the absolute wonderful presence of God. Seek his face, declare his word, and He will supernaturally reveal himself to you. Excited for your journey. Seek his presence, obey his direction in word and spirit, and you'll see the power of God totally squash all the dark new age laws of attraction. With that said, we all invite "presence" with our words and attitudes. Bible makes it very clear. If we draw near to him, He will draw near to you. It is the same with our words. Heaven is 100% more justified to act on our behalf when we obey and invite him with our words into our situation WITH HIS WORD. It is his word that carries "presence." Not our words. You are now a light in a world, as Christ's light shines in you, all other lights become dimmer.
Same thing happened to me. It's a false hope many fall for. As stated in the video hyping yourself up is much better than going into something such as a test anxious, but at the end of the day you need the ability to pass anyway. And it surely can't change your looks, but it preys on exactly those insecure and lost.
@@ShysThyName yes exactly! many people think its about being too naive. It's usually people who are very traumatized, isolated, or going through serious loss or illness that get the deepest into these types of things. It feels like the only hope when you're blind. i'm glad we're out of that and found Jesus and solid biblical teaching :)
Years ago, I took a certification test for a job I had. I needed to be certified and had 3 years to accomplish that, or they would let me go. I told some people in my church I was going to take the test. When I returned the following week, someone asked, “Well, did you pass?” I hadn’t, so I said, “No, I failed it.” She said, No! You passed in the name of Jesus!” A thousand times NO! The name of Jesus is not a magic word to declare success where your skill levels are not yet up to par. He’s not going to override the results of the test to give you a passing grade just because someone speaks words into the universe and declares it. Her declaration DID NOT come to pass.
I remember Paul said don't say we're going to go to this town or that city or even a long journey afar except you say if it be the Lord's will we do this or that or go here or there. They must have missed that lol
You can find God's will for your life in His Word (the Scriptures). The word of God is the Voice of God. Look for scriptures to backup your prayers/petition. What ever happened to Ephesians 3:20? "Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,"
Ehh, it may not be biblical. But self motivation and speaking positively about yourself has been proven to help out A Lot! You should look into Dr. Caroline Leaf. She’s a Christian neuroscientist who done amazing work on the mind.
@@user-bi4we6rp7m No, because the Word of God is backed up by God Himself. It's not the words in the Bible...it's the action of God....for God swore an oath to Himself to do was He has spoken.
This was so good, Mike. It is almost like swapping a true biblical principle for an empty philosophical one. We dont make worlds we submit to God's way, whether or not we receive the result we hope for. ❤
@macseagle5968, Absolutely it's a red flag! It's really sad, because Opera used to go to a Christian church. But she completely walked away from Christianity because she read in the Bible that God is a jealous God. She thought that God was jealous of her prosperity, not understanding that God's not jealous 'of' us, but jealous 'for' us, because God wants the very best for us. God bless you and keep you always! 🙂
My dad abused the crap out of this kind of thinking that the words of a person have soooo much power and would try and put fear in me and my family cause of it. Lots of abuse can come when you totally miss the point of God's word and think you are doing the "right" thing and drill it into you kids.
Mike Winger nailed it in another vid. He said why do some Christians see right thru false teachers and others fall for the false teaching. It's because they too lust for the riches, power and wealth that the false teacher is promising.
Some believe it because they were taught by someone who they (unintentionally) idolized, or trusted very deeply. We associate the words of people we’re close to with Truth, but that’s not guaranteed. “All have fallen short of the glory of God.” “There is none who is good.” You can be completely sincere, and be sincerely wrong. No one’s theology can be 100% correct because we are flawed, finite, created beings seeing through a glass dimly - until the day we see Perfection face to face.
So nice to hear this. My FiL who espouses many radical spiritual beliefs loves The Secret: Dare to Dream, and believes whole heartedly in the sort of manifesting reality from positive thoughts philosophy the movie centers around. I watched the movie once and filed it away under "Pagan Nonsense" in my head. People want to believe in this crap, because it lets them feel like they have more control over this world than they do, and thus makes it less scary, and allows them to sidestep their need for God. It's a deceptively hard thing to swallow your pride, acknowledge that you are weak and broken, and that you need Christ and surrender your fears, worries, and doubts to him. Most of us will struggle with it our entire lives, and concepts like the power of words is just another warm empty lie we can turn to when we should be turning to God.
Brother Mike Winger, please continue to keep the faith and deliver balanced views of the scriptures as you have been doing for years. As a fellow minister you’ve blessed me immensely. The spirit in which you correct falsehood is so gracious but yet stern/firm. Being in the Pentecostal circle but with a reformed mind, I’ve learned from you to correct wrong thinking/teaching in such a way. As the scripture says let your speech be with Grace seasoned with salt. Brother, through your channel, you live out that scripture. I pray you continue and finish well in Jesus name. @Mike Winger
Do you think that someone with enough faith to move mountains, would also have what your idea of a balanced view of scripture? Being grounded in the word doesn’t mean you have a “balanced” view. I don’t think Jesus would have been viewed by many as having a balanced view of scripture. Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."
I was in the WOF world for many years. The Lord delivered me from that in 2003. My hubby died at age 48 in 2006. I was told that when he was in his 30s (before me) he mentioned that he would not live to see age 50. When he died I was told he spoke his death into existence. This completely flies in the face of the God’s Sovereignty. Good thing I was out of that WOF stuff before I heard that story.
I'm sorry to hear about your husband. I, too, was in WOF for many years and God rescued me out of it this time last year. My sister was praying for me to get out of it and I had no idea. I'm grateful me eyes were opened and was delivered from that deceptive cult. It's been a long year of rebuilding my faith through God's kindness and mercy in His Sovereignty. I pray for others who are still in it and don't realize they're in deception - one of the biggest lies from the pit of hell. And it's everywhere.
I grew up with this type of thinking and as I’ve actively quested after God I’ve come to realize I can’t control God, he’s not a magical genie in the sky. I can ask for things from God but I’ve notice the way I ask has changed also. When I actively seek God my thinking starts to fall more into line with God and the things I ask for have become different. I’m a work in progress but I’ve abandon prosperity gospel for the riches of my savior Jesus Christ and I’m at peace.
My brother when he was going through basic training went to a Wiccan church to skirt Sunday calisthenics and something he learned about was “manifesting” things basically the same way many prosperity preachers tell it. With that revelation my “I disagree” stance on the name it and claim it teachings went into the camp of “I strongly disagree” it’s amazing to me how worldly teachings worm their way into the church and fool people into believing that they’re biblical.
@thegunsngloryshowI get what you’re saying. Jesus said that He is the door to the sheepfold, and only thieves get in by climbing over the fence because they don’t come in through Him. I think that has layers of meaning that we’re not aware of in our corporeality.
Thank you for exposing the truth (and the lies) about this. I have friends and some relatives who believe very strongly that they can "speak their future into existence." I believe that you said it right.
EW Kenyon was wrong and now scores of believers are deluded. It’s a mess and causes so much unnecessary confusion. I’m saying this as someone who absolutely does believe in the charismatic gifts and I have seen impossible things happen. We don’t speak anything into existence; only God can. That’s not what the verse says. We are not and never will be God.
@@josephjimorris Just because we are not God doesn't mean we have not been given authority. When it comes to authority I often think about Exodus 7:12 "For each man cast down his staff, and they became serpents. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs". The sorcerers, and Aaron were able to turn staffs into serpents. Aaron obviously under God given authority, and the sorcerers under a counterfeit or demonic authority.
Recently was having a conversation with a friend, she did not know what I meant by the word of faith movement. Told her it was the belief you could speak something into existence. She said “Jesus did.” Told her I am not Jesus. And to add to that no one would expect us to walk on water.
I had never heard of WOF movement until I watched American Gospel. Then I realised I was IN a WOF church!! Got out of there and now in a church under verse by verse true Bible teaching, like Mike does..
We have to be careful to not distance ourselves too far from our Model. If you say, "I'm not Jesus", then you subtly give yourself permission to not obey Him, follow Him or use Him as your model. For example, Jesus said, "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, 'Remove hence to yonder place', and it shall remove. And nothing shall be impossible unto you." Was Jesus just kidding. Was He telling us a whacked out parable? How do we give ourselves permission to ignore the Savior? What if Jesus meant what He said? I mean, 3 out of 4 gospels repeat this very promise. How do we wiggle out of it? Abraham was justified because he believed the promise of God. Are we justified some other way? If we mock God's promises then in what sense are we "believers"?
Surely not mocking God. Abraham is a great example. He had to wait on God’s promise, when he made the decision to take the promise into his own hands he created problems that the world is dealing with today. Genesis 17:17 Abraham threw himself on his face and laughed and said to himself, “Can a child be born to a man a hundred years old or can Sarah bore a child at ninety?” Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “O that Ishmael might live in Your favor?” Abraham a great man of faith did not believe when God himself told him 90 year old Sarah, actually 91 because it says in a year would bear him a son. And if Abraham could have spoke it into existence, it would have been Ishmael the covenant would have come through. I love Jesus, try to be more like Jesus everyday but I am not disrespecting or disobeying Jesus and or the scriptures when I realize I am not Jesus. I can’t save myself from sin let alone the whole world. Romans 3:23 …we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. My I add we all far short except for Jesus.
After I got saved initially the first church, I went to taught that about words. God spoke the Universe into existence, and we can do the same thing because of how powerful our words are. It never really sat well within my spirit, so I eventually left that church.
Great explanation! While I have tried to explain this to many people, I missed the mark. You just provided me with the right words. Thank you! I had a therapist who went totally new age and I quit seeing her. She told me I could speak things into existence. I tried to explain that I could not. She failed to honor my choice of not suggesting her beliefs to me, so I stopped going.
That last part. Those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Love that you brought out that it's not the power of our words but the power of Him saving us. Love you brother and your ministry!
Unfortunately my wife believes the false doctrine of the "power of words". It was introduced into her brother's church (he was the pastor). That church, which is now closed, had a list of false doctrines that they allowed in because the pastor refused to do any research on the teachings and their authors. It's taken me years to coach my wife away from the "faith movement". But, because of Christian superstition and her family's unwillingness to let the rest of those teachings go, I still got some praying and work to do. I'm patient and I know God's truth always prevails...even though it may take a while.
She might get some more understanding from the book *Broken: 7 "Christian" Rules That Every Christian Ought to Break as Often as Possible* by Rev Jonathan Fisk. It's fantastic.
@@kel5423 Why pray if words don't matter? Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him." Do you think this verse is wrong?
Even before I was serious about my faith I always felt this was an unwise and unbiblical belief. The only person whose WORDS have power is the Lord's. Saying I'll have/don't have anything isn't going to change the future, maybe my confidence but it's not going to shift the event structure of my life for my benefit, if that was the case, my life would always go my way. This was always so frustrating to hear especially from family and others in the church.
I always felt Icky about about name it and claim it. Word of faith stuff too. I always feel like why Do you think you can even put God over a barrel or that he is a slot machine and you can pull the lever and get whatever you want? How rude!
The verse that gets trotted out a lot is Romans 4:17 that says that God “quickeneth the dead and calleth those things which be not as though they were.” it says God does that, not us.
Yeah, the amount of times I hear other Christians say, "oh, I didn't mean to speak that over your life", or (if I happen to say something negative), "don't speak that over yourself" is actually really troubling. Words have power in that they can build people up in love or knock them down in hate. But that is all.
We use to call it: “Name it, Claim it”! One of my favorite scripture is Philippians 4:8. Teaches God’s children to think positive thoughts instead of negative thoughts that will bring down spirit. Another favorite is 2 Timothy 2:15 …”rightly dividing the word of truth.” Enjoyed your message 👍🏻
Also: SO GOOD was your point about Genesis highlighting how something so weak, i.e., mere words, were used so powerfully to create the universe because God! What a great corrective to this whole word-of-faith, name-it-into-existence movement. 👍
For me, the biggest thing is whether we're talking about proclaiming something from scripture or not. As a Christ-follower, proclaiming a promise that God gave in His Word over your life or a situation is something that doesn't bother me at all. Saying over and over that God's going to give you a Porche, for no reason other than you really want a Porche, with no mention of how that would even glorify God... yeah, I'm not feeling that one so much.
I laugh so hard to when I hear you say these things, I used to be mixed up with these word of faith fools, I guess I was a fool too. But thank God for brother Mike Winger helping me to see the light 🙏 🙌 ❤
@@Plisken65Knowing God answers the prayers of His children, that are according to His will, make life a lot less stressful for those who love and trust Him. There's so much peace that comes from trusting in Him.
@@Plisken65 Biblically, God only answers prayer in the way you want if it is IN LINE with his will. So praying for your friend to be healed from cancer (for example)... that would be great, but it may not be in line with God's will. So it may not happen. It may be such that through your friend suffering and dying from cancer, hundreds of years from now, 30 people will be saved and go to heaven who would not have been saved if your friend hadn't died. God does answer prayer in the way we want, but not always. There was a woman named Barbara Cummiskey who was bedridden and had completely atrophied legs. A Christian radio show asked its audience to pray for her. She got many cards because of that, which is evidence that a lot of people did pray for her. She was healed completely. She got out of her bed and walked, as if her legs had never atrophied.
@@Plisken65 While I'm at a loss to understand your comment, There is a bit of truth in there.... Hope for the best Prepare for the worst and you'll never be disappointed!
I was told the same thing (i.e., ordering at McDonald's you make a request which is manifested when you receive your order). I'm so grateful the LORD opened my eyes. I was under teaching like his for over 30 years. My prayer is GOD would open ppl hearts and eyes.🙏🏾
Remember the scripture that says you have not because you ask not and when you ask you ask to consume upon your own lust. That in a nutshell is WORD OF FAITH garbage.
@@princessbabibear4794 I'm only 6 months out of an unbeknownst to me, Word of Faith church. I'm still reeling, and most of my friends are still deceived😪I can't seem to sway them
this is really good stuff Mike thank you. I hear a lot about how powerful words are and I think a lot of people take that too far as to thinking their words have a supernatural power of some kind.
I think there are a good amount of Christians who believe that their words are powerful when they align them with what God’s word says. it’s like activating their faith and aligning their faith with the things the Bible says that are harder to hold on to. Such as believing for a healing for a health condition etc. it is inviting God into a bad situation and not letting your own thoughts or anxieties run wild. if we are saved by our confession then surely words laced with faith are powerful. ❤❤❤❤❤
I believe that our confession is really our acknowledgment to ourselves and to God that He is saving us right then and there - not that the confession in itself does the saving work.
The only truth behind with any of this is that saying, thinking, and seeing it in your mind brings more mind attention (focus) to it, and we usually act in line with what occupies our mental space the most. There's definitely some neuroplasticity going on with some of these things, but not some vibrational/heavenly shift because we arbitrarily rattle off some words or phrases.
Well done Mike! So glad to share this with others. Key point of Proverbs 18:21 -" those who love it will eat it's fruit." I.e. they love the *tongue* and use it *too much* and get themselves in trouble. Also love your point about words being weak. We used to hear the phrases "words are cheap," and "it's hard to find a man of his word." Because you can say anything, but the proof of a man's character is what he does and whether his words match his character.
Had a person in a prayer group I was involved with always pray, "I declare and decree". Eventually the leader of the group confronted her in love, and corrected her.
The leader of the group sounds like someone who would have tried to confront Jesus too. Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."
i made a video on him and called him an "ear tickler" because these sort of preachers only say what you want to hear, not what you need to hear. "Gods gonna give you money and fame!" but not "you need to work for your job and stop being lazy, because you cant get everything for free." It sounds harsh but its reailty, and reailty is REAL.
A new church opened up near me a year ago. They opened their doors with only an empty church, a stage, four host personalities, tv cameras and microphones. Went to their YT channel and watched them broadcasting online to an empty church (you would only know if you saw the empty parking lot in person), as if they were a successful going enterprise. They are in the style of Todd White or Furtik in their manic preaching, upbeat music presentation, and snazzy, youthful dress. As the weeks went on, two to four, to eight to twelve more cars were added every Sunday. This Sunday, their lot was full, they poured over into the Bowling Alley's lot and took up three fourths of the malls general parking. They dreamed it, they spoke it, and it happened. But of course, this wasn't their powerful words speaking into existence, but just the business savvy to know this is what today's "Christians" want -- a performance, to be entertained, to be lied to with perverted Scripture interpretations, otherwise, the people would not be listening to the voice of another shepherd.
We were warned this would happen a long time ago. It’s everywhere now. It’s only my hope and trust in the Lord that makes me want to keep fighting for His bride to know freedom. So many believers are backward in their thinking and don’t know it. Too often they don’t want to hear about it either. It makes me grieve for them.
Did you actually listen to their sermons or are you just judging them based on their appearances? Also last time I checked Furtick and Mike Todd are not false teachers (I don’t agree with both of their antics )
I got caught up with the Bethel Jesus said the words I speak to you are Spirit and they are life. Jesus speaking things into existence and I believe inferring we are human beings can do the same things. I am still working through this but I admit I liked BJ and took what he said without really examining it. I have to say that its only been the last year or so I have stopped listening to this kind of stuff and started reading g the bible instead. It's quite weird but when I stopped listening to this type of teaching and reading Gods word I began realising that tge two two dont match up. Don't know what else to say other than thank you Mr Winger .
All I did was call out and He saved me!! The power is in Him not us!! YES!! Amen!! Thank you Jesus. Loving these short clips. Shared your coffee one on my health forum that gets alot of traffic. He made us Fishers of men!! Think I will share this one too. Thanks Pastor Mike.
That's good because Osteen is turning the Bible into a self-help book. It should be about what you can do for God, not what He can do for you. I know those aren't mutually exclusive but every time I see his content he's just talking about how God can benefit "you".
Are you sure about that? Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."
Had a friend in college that did this Word claiming thing and went so insane he stopped working and school as he believed he would get all the wealth he commanded. He bragged about the homes and cars yet to come. Had to beg him to get professional help after months went by and he was still in self deception. He was like a zombie for years as he was so sincere and soft hearted about being lied too. I doubt he has recovered to a sound life and doctrine. Speak the Truth in love SO THAT we will be connected to God. Eph4
I want to say this, there are TONS of ministers/ churches headed in this direction I know it’s almost too easy with Joel but let us be mindful of these false teachings are very common as our “christian” culture has deviated sound teaching
As a poet, I have a sincere belief in the power of words; but that power, of course, is merely derrived from the ability of words to communicate a perspective on reality. Any attempt to give words power to create a reality, not only offends my office of developing poetic and beautiful ways of communicating reality, but also attempts to give words a power they oughtn't have and thus limits our ability to correctly speak them.
I’ve heard it said that we are snared by our words. Is this along the same lines? Love the t-shirt! My husband has one that says, “My dog thinks I’m cool”.
I first watched a Joel Osteen "sermon" while a very young Christian. I didn't know much but I knew something felt very off with him. ALso, the way he blinks too much is like someone who avoids the gaze of a person who knows they're lying. Except that the someone he's lying to is everywhere so Osteen has to blink that much to "avoid" the gaze if only for a blink-while
Yeah there's a big distinction between how your words and self-narrative effect your mindset and how you behave, because how a man thinketh so is he, as opposed to trying to practice the law of attraction or manifestation or witchcraft or something. Big difference in those things lol😂
My mom went to a Rhema church (Kenneth Hagan, the godfather of the word of faith movement. I was surprised when I found out that Kenneth got the name it claim it idea from the metaphysical cults of the late 19th century. I did not like those teachings of believing that "as a man thinketh, so is he". She and I disagreed on it. It always felt wrong to me.
So I can just speak things into existence? Ok. "Apartment you are now clean. Dishes you are washed. And my head ache is cured." Gee, nothing happened. Guess I don't have enough faith 😊 lol
Hey Mike, thankyou for this explanation. What about the biblical principle of cursings & blessings. Could you add some more details perhaps? Thanks so much. God bless you 🙏
I remember watching that clip in the 20 questions video a little while back, and the examples you use make me chuckle because they are so spot on. My only question would be if there is any power behind the words if they truly meant what they said? Does the intent of the words, or even someone trying to curse you give them any power?
I ask those kind of questions too. Where the line is? I believe that God gives us some level of capability in this world. I just don’t know how much. I think we presume way too far in what authority we have sometimes. We aren’t the masters of the universe. But Psalm 8 is written about us, so I’m still trying to find the boundary lines for this.
As I do not agree with some of the very 'liberal" attitudes towards the words we speak about our words speaking universes into existence, nor the whole name it and claim it belief of the prosperity gospel, etc. However, I will say from first hand experience that the words we speak do have a very real affect on the world around us and they are seed sown into our lives.. What happened to me was that while my wife and I were discussing an issue involving her ex-husband, in a moment of frustration, I let that affect my thoughts and I said something derogatory about this individual.. Fast forward a week later, my daughter said the VERY SAME THING about me to my other daughter via a text message she showed her mom.. The Lord really disciplined me over this and used it to show me just how much the words I speak DO matter. Relating to what you mentioned too Mike, if you are married and are always speaking harshly with a sarcastic and negative attitude and manner towards your spouse, it will not only damage the marriage relationship, but 9 times out of 10 that attitude will begin to affect your spouse and they will start to speak to YOU in the same manner you have spoken to them. So the words you say DO matter, they are seed sown which reveal our hearts. Matthew 12: 34-37, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and and evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned." Just as fruit contains seeds of the same kind, so do the fruit of our hearts, our words, carry seed when spoken. If its good seeds sown by the words we speak, then the fruit will be good. If its bad seed by the words we speak, then it will be bad fruit. The seed follows the nature of the fruit just like our words follow the nature of our heart's condition. All the more reason I pray the scriptures over my wife, my kids and my family. The "grounding rod" of what we should be speaking and not be speaking, etc. is the Word of God. Not some fanatical proclamation of getting a bunch of money if you are in debt up to your eyeballs and spend your paycheck unwisely as soon as you get it. Or speaking health over yourself if you eat junk food all the time and do not somewhat attempt to take care of your body.. It all has to be balanced and in line with the Word of God. So we need to be mindful of swinging too far one way or the other about how we view the words we speak.
The words you just “spoke” here had the power to make me stop reading them. Dude, you don’t have to write a sermon to make a point. Go look up the word “brevity”.
”Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.“ Colossians 4:6 Is also applicable to the words we speak.
Amen! Brother Mike. I know several people that believe this nonsense. God is all powerful. Praise the one and only Truth and Life. I wish I was as eloquent..
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Joel Osteen is nothing more than a glorified motivational speaker.
I call him "Tony Robbins lite".
Where else would you want to go to get motivated? It’s the gift of exhortation.
No. Joel Osteen tells you the truth. He simply twisted it to deceive even the very elect.
He is a master magician. A wielder of demons who controls the Satanic churches in the United States. He is describing the process of casting miracles and spells, with purposefully incomplete information.
You need the word of God to manifest God’s power.
Damn right he is…and he has earned that glorification…he is that good. Respect the game.
I call him the smiley face guy.
"Speaking over your life" sounds like "manifestation" but with extra steps.
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I like the way good fight ministry calls it in there video. " Manifesting evil" and it's true....
Exactly!
And you sound like the pharisees.
That was my first thought. Manifesting it into existence.
Only the Almighty can speak things into existence.
Amen
I agree with you, but out of curiosity what would you say to someone who quotes Mark 11:21-24?
Mark 11:21-24 ESV
[21] And Peter remembered and said to him, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree that you cursed has withered.” [22] And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. [23] Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. [24] Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
Yes it's God who causes the mountain to move, but it's the believer who speaks to the mountain. So here, is the believer declaring over the mountain and "speaking things into existence"?
@@MrOlu109 I've always thought that "and does not doubt in his heart" is the important part. I don't know if that is what Jesus meant, but I've always understood it to mean that none of us have enough faith to be able to say that without ANY doubt. We are all flawed in that regard.
@@gprimeofx But that can't be the case, because then what do you do about all the instances where the Apostles "declare" something over someone and it happens?
Acts 3:6-7 NKJV
[6] Then Peter said, “Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.” [7] And he took him by the right hand and lifted him up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
Acts 13:9-11 NKJV
[9] Then Saul, who also is called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him [10] and said, “O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord? [11] And now, indeed, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you shall be blind, not seeing the sun for a time.” And immediately a dark mist fell on him, and he went around seeking someone to lead him by the hand.
Did Peter not say/declare directly to the lame man "get up and walk"?
Did Paul not say to Elymas or Bar-Jesus "You shall be blind and unable to see"?
These were declarations/prayers over the people and yet they had enough faith such that the miracles actually happened.
So how can you say that no one can have this faith to point where they declare for something to be done and it happens?
@@gprimeofx But that can't be the case because then what do you do about all the instances where the Apostles speak or "declare" over someone and it actually happens?
Acts 3:6-7
But Peter said, “I have no silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk!”. And he took him by the right hand and raised him up, and immediately his feet and ankles were made strong.
Acts 13:9-11
But Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you will be blind and unable to see the sun for a time.” Immediately mist and darkness fell upon him, and he went about seeking people to lead him by the hand.
Are you saying that the Apostles didn't have the faith required to "declare" over people, even though what they declared was done for them?
Did Peter not have enough faith to speak to the blind man and say "rise up and walk"?
Did Paul not have enough faith to say and "declare" to Elymas/Bar-Jesus that "you will be blind and unable to see"?
If they did, how can you say that none of us could ever do this, when the Apostles did it?
Isn't the aim to imitate the Apostles as they sought to imitate Christ?
Didn't Jesus say in the exact same context, that you will be able to speak to the mountain and it will move, if you have faith as SMALL AS A MUSTARD SEED (Matthew 17:20)??
I had a woman berate me once for saying a dessert was "to die for". She said i was "speaking death" over my life. 😂. I told her its just an expression and to get over it.
i used to be into the new age manifestations stuff. like SUPER into it, i “practiced” the law of assumption and followed Neville Goddard’s teachings to the point were I messed up my life quite a bit. so when i became Christian last year I was so shocked by how many professing Christians sound exactly like New Agers and somehow think it’s biblical.
Neville twists the scripture, just like Joel Osteen, but he was much more honest about being a mystic.
Praising God that He opened your eyes 🙌
Totally agree with you. It is alarming how so many Christians don't have discernment. But, there is such a thing as the absolute wonderful presence of God. Seek his face, declare his word, and He will supernaturally reveal himself to you. Excited for your journey. Seek his presence, obey his direction in word and spirit, and you'll see the power of God totally squash all the dark new age laws of attraction. With that said, we all invite "presence" with our words and attitudes. Bible makes it very clear. If we draw near to him, He will draw near to you. It is the same with our words. Heaven is 100% more justified to act on our behalf when we obey and invite him with our words into our situation WITH HIS WORD. It is his word that carries "presence." Not our words. You are now a light in a world, as Christ's light shines in you, all other lights become dimmer.
Same thing happened to me. It's a false hope many fall for. As stated in the video hyping yourself up is much better than going into something such as a test anxious, but at the end of the day you need the ability to pass anyway. And it surely can't change your looks, but it preys on exactly those insecure and lost.
@@micheletisdale7467 thank you & amen. the greatest gift i've ever recieved
@@ShysThyName yes exactly! many people think its about being too naive. It's usually people who are very traumatized, isolated, or going through serious loss or illness that get the deepest into these types of things. It feels like the only hope when you're blind. i'm glad we're out of that and found Jesus and solid biblical teaching :)
Years ago, I took a certification test for a job I had. I needed to be certified and had 3 years to accomplish that, or they would let me go. I told some people in my church I was going to take the test. When I returned the following week, someone asked, “Well, did you pass?” I hadn’t, so I said, “No, I failed it.” She said, No! You passed in the name of Jesus!” A thousand times NO! The name of Jesus is not a magic word to declare success where your skill levels are not yet up to par. He’s not going to override the results of the test to give you a passing grade just because someone speaks words into the universe and declares it. Her declaration DID NOT come to pass.
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I agree, what ever happened to praying God’s will?
They don't seem to agree with the sovereignty of God. They bring God down and themselves up😪
I remember Paul said don't say we're going to go to this town or that city or even a long journey afar except you say if it be the Lord's will we do this or that or go here or there. They must have missed that lol
@@princessbabibear4794I'm pretty sure that was James.
You can't do that if you want worldly things like money, power, fame, etc.
You can find God's will for your life in His Word (the Scriptures). The word of God is the Voice of God.
Look for scriptures to backup your prayers/petition.
What ever happened to Ephesians 3:20?
"Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,"
"Words are the weakest thing when it comes to actually manifesting reality."
Absolutely.
Ehh, it may not be biblical. But self motivation and speaking positively about yourself has been proven to help out A Lot! You should look into Dr. Caroline Leaf. She’s a Christian neuroscientist who done amazing work on the mind.
Then the bibles weak
@@user-bi4we6rp7m No, because the Word of God is backed up by God Himself. It's not the words in the Bible...it's the action of God....for God swore an oath to Himself to do was He has spoken.
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God performs *His* word. He doesn't perform *our* words. Big difference!!!😂😅
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What's a bibles?
Only God can speak anything into existence.
This was so good, Mike. It is almost like swapping a true biblical principle for an empty philosophical one. We dont make worlds we submit to God's way, whether or not we receive the result we hope for. ❤
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Osteen rubs shoulders with Oprah. That's a huge red flag right there.
@macseagle5968,
Absolutely it's a red flag!
It's really sad, because Opera used to go to a Christian church. But she completely walked away from Christianity because she read in the Bible that God is a jealous God. She thought that God was jealous of her prosperity, not understanding that God's not jealous 'of' us, but jealous 'for' us, because God wants the very best for us.
God bless you and keep you always! 🙂
I almost laughed out loud in a quiet office when you said speak over yourself "I can fly and see if you remain in the air!!!" 😂😂😂😂
My dad abused the crap out of this kind of thinking that the words of a person have soooo much power and would try and put fear in me and my family cause of it. Lots of abuse can come when you totally miss the point of God's word and think you are doing the "right" thing and drill it into you kids.
Mike Winger nailed it in another vid. He said why do some Christians see right thru false teachers and others fall for the false teaching. It's because they too lust for the riches, power and wealth that the false teacher is promising.
Hmmm... that's insightful. I'm always asking that same question.
And also, they're not spending enough time in scripture. Knowing the word is how we discern truth from falsehood
@camillewilliams3185 yes. Speaking from personal experience!
some people just want a quick fix, they wanna fall for something they know is wrong but sounds good and some people are new and dont know much.
Some believe it because they were taught by someone who they (unintentionally) idolized, or trusted very deeply. We associate the words of people we’re close to with Truth, but that’s not guaranteed. “All have fallen short of the glory of God.” “There is none who is good.” You can be completely sincere, and be sincerely wrong. No one’s theology can be 100% correct because we are flawed, finite, created beings seeing through a glass dimly - until the day we see Perfection face to face.
This is like the law of attraction in the occult .
Calling this into being etc .
So nice to hear this. My FiL who espouses many radical spiritual beliefs loves The Secret: Dare to Dream, and believes whole heartedly in the sort of manifesting reality from positive thoughts philosophy the movie centers around. I watched the movie once and filed it away under "Pagan Nonsense" in my head. People want to believe in this crap, because it lets them feel like they have more control over this world than they do, and thus makes it less scary, and allows them to sidestep their need for God. It's a deceptively hard thing to swallow your pride, acknowledge that you are weak and broken, and that you need Christ and surrender your fears, worries, and doubts to him. Most of us will struggle with it our entire lives, and concepts like the power of words is just another warm empty lie we can turn to when we should be turning to God.
Brother Mike Winger, please continue to keep the faith and deliver balanced views of the scriptures as you have been doing for years. As a fellow minister you’ve blessed me immensely.
The spirit in which you correct falsehood is so gracious but yet stern/firm. Being in the Pentecostal circle but with a reformed mind, I’ve learned from you to correct wrong thinking/teaching in such a way.
As the scripture says let your speech be with Grace seasoned with salt. Brother, through your channel, you live out that scripture. I pray you continue and finish well in Jesus name.
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Do you think that someone with enough faith to move mountains, would also have what your idea of a balanced view of scripture? Being grounded in the word doesn’t mean you have a “balanced” view. I don’t think Jesus would have been viewed by many as having a balanced view of scripture. Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."
I was in the WOF world for many years. The Lord delivered me from that in 2003. My hubby died at age 48 in 2006. I was told that when he was in his 30s (before me) he mentioned that he would not live to see age 50. When he died I was told he spoke his death into existence. This completely flies in the face of the God’s Sovereignty. Good thing I was out of that WOF stuff before I heard that story.
I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and your family. May he Rest In Peace.
I'm sorry to hear about your husband.
I, too, was in WOF for many years and God rescued me out of it this time last year. My sister was praying for me to get out of it and I had no idea.
I'm grateful me eyes were opened and was delivered from that deceptive cult.
It's been a long year of rebuilding my faith through God's kindness and mercy in His Sovereignty.
I pray for others who are still in it and don't realize they're in deception - one of the biggest lies from the pit of hell. And it's everywhere.
What is a wof?
@@crazyboysince1998 Word Of Faith.
I grew up with this type of thinking and as I’ve actively quested after God I’ve come to realize I can’t control God, he’s not a magical genie in the sky. I can ask for things from God but I’ve notice the way I ask has changed also. When I actively seek God my thinking starts to fall more into line with God and the things I ask for have become different. I’m a work in progress but I’ve abandon prosperity gospel for the riches of my savior Jesus Christ and I’m at peace.
Amen ❤
This is what we call " word fo faith movement". And it is what we are getting troubled in Ethiopia.
My brother when he was going through basic training went to a Wiccan church to skirt Sunday calisthenics and something he learned about was “manifesting” things basically the same way many prosperity preachers tell it. With that revelation my “I disagree” stance on the name it and claim it teachings went into the camp of “I strongly disagree” it’s amazing to me how worldly teachings worm their way into the church and fool people into believing that they’re biblical.
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Go ahead, I'm sure we're all dying to hear this!
@thegunsngloryshowI get what you’re saying. Jesus said that He is the door to the sheepfold, and only thieves get in by climbing over the fence because they don’t come in through Him. I think that has layers of meaning that we’re not aware of in our corporeality.
Thank you for exposing the truth (and the lies) about this. I have friends and some relatives who believe very strongly that they can "speak their future into existence."
I believe that you said it right.
I'd like to meet your relatives, they sound like faith filled people.
EW Kenyon was wrong and now scores of believers are deluded. It’s a mess and causes so much unnecessary confusion. I’m saying this as someone who absolutely does believe in the charismatic gifts and I have seen impossible things happen. We don’t speak anything into existence; only God can. That’s not what the verse says. We are not and never will be God.
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@@josephjimorris Just because we are not God doesn't mean we have not been given authority. When it comes to authority I often think about Exodus 7:12 "For each man cast down his staff, and they became serpents. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs". The sorcerers, and Aaron were able to turn staffs into serpents. Aaron obviously under God given authority, and the sorcerers under a counterfeit or demonic authority.
Recently was having a conversation with a friend, she did not know what I meant by the word of faith movement. Told her it was the belief you could speak something into existence. She said “Jesus did.” Told her I am not Jesus. And to add to that no one would expect us to walk on water.
When visited the Sea of Galilee I had to try walking on it. No surprise, I failed. Maybe if I had said “I can walk on water” before trying…
@@billcook4768 It's highly likely that you didn't quote the right Scripture beforehand. ;)
I had never heard of WOF movement until I watched American Gospel. Then I realised I was IN a WOF church!! Got out of there and now in a church under verse by verse true Bible teaching, like Mike does..
We have to be careful to not distance ourselves too far from our Model. If you say, "I'm not Jesus", then you subtly give yourself permission to not obey Him, follow Him or use Him as your model.
For example, Jesus said, "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, 'Remove hence to yonder place', and it shall remove. And nothing shall be impossible unto you."
Was Jesus just kidding. Was He telling us a whacked out parable? How do we give ourselves permission to ignore the Savior? What if Jesus meant what He said? I mean, 3 out of 4 gospels repeat this very promise. How do we wiggle out of it?
Abraham was justified because he believed the promise of God. Are we justified some other way? If we mock God's promises then in what sense are we "believers"?
Surely not mocking God. Abraham is a great example. He had to wait on God’s promise, when he made the decision to take the promise into his own hands he created problems that the world is dealing with today. Genesis 17:17 Abraham threw himself on his face and laughed and said to himself, “Can a child be born to a man a hundred years old or can Sarah bore a child at ninety?” Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “O that Ishmael might live in Your favor?”
Abraham a great man of faith did not believe when God himself told him 90 year old Sarah, actually 91 because it says in a year would bear him a son. And if Abraham could have spoke it into existence, it would have been Ishmael the covenant would have come through.
I love Jesus, try to be more like Jesus everyday but I am not disrespecting or disobeying Jesus and or the scriptures when I realize I am not Jesus. I can’t save myself from sin let alone the whole world.
Romans 3:23 …we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.
My I add we all far short except for Jesus.
After I got saved initially the first church, I went to taught that about words. God spoke the Universe into existence, and we can do the same thing because of how powerful our words are. It never really sat well within my spirit, so I eventually left that church.
Brother I’m so grateful for you and your ministry. Keep up the great work. What a blessing you have been to me. Praise God!
Great explanation! While I have tried to explain this to many people, I missed the mark. You just provided me with the right words. Thank you! I had a therapist who went totally new age and I quit seeing her. She told me I could speak things into existence. I tried to explain that I could not. She failed to honor my choice of not suggesting her beliefs to me, so I stopped going.
Good choice.
Good move!!!!
That last part. Those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Love that you brought out that it's not the power of our words but the power of Him saving us. Love you brother and your ministry!
Unfortunately my wife believes the false doctrine of the "power of words". It was introduced into her brother's church (he was the pastor). That church, which is now closed, had a list of false doctrines that they allowed in because the pastor refused to do any research on the teachings and their authors. It's taken me years to coach my wife away from the "faith movement". But, because of Christian superstition and her family's unwillingness to let the rest of those teachings go, I still got some praying and work to do. I'm patient and I know God's truth always prevails...even though it may take a while.
She might get some more understanding from the book *Broken: 7 "Christian" Rules That Every Christian Ought to Break as Often as Possible* by Rev Jonathan Fisk. It's fantastic.
@@Kaemea I'll look into that, thanks. 🙂
Praying for you& your wife Kel.
@@michelleduncan9965 Thank you. 🙂
@@kel5423 Why pray if words don't matter? Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him." Do you think this verse is wrong?
Even before I was serious about my faith I always felt this was an unwise and unbiblical belief. The only person whose WORDS have power is the Lord's. Saying I'll have/don't have anything isn't going to change the future, maybe my confidence but it's not going to shift the event structure of my life for my benefit, if that was the case, my life would always go my way. This was always so frustrating to hear especially from family and others in the church.
I always felt Icky about about name it and claim it. Word of faith stuff too. I always feel like why Do you think you can even put God over a barrel or that he is a slot machine and you can pull the lever and get whatever you want? How rude!
Poking the bear Mr. Winger. It's like you just want to hear from Joel's lawyers. 😂 May God be with you!
The verse that gets trotted out a lot is Romans 4:17 that says that God “quickeneth the dead and calleth those things which be not as though they were.” it says God does that, not us.
Yeah, the amount of times I hear other Christians say, "oh, I didn't mean to speak that over your life", or (if I happen to say something negative), "don't speak that over yourself" is actually really troubling. Words have power in that they can build people up in love or knock them down in hate. But that is all.
We use to call it:
“Name it, Claim it”!
One of my favorite scripture is Philippians 4:8. Teaches God’s children to think positive thoughts instead of negative thoughts that will bring down spirit.
Another favorite is
2 Timothy 2:15
…”rightly dividing the word of truth.”
Enjoyed your message 👍🏻
This kind of thinking elevates us to a god-like status which we are not. Good video Mike!
I just heard someone say this today, I'm glad you spoke on this topic!
Also: SO GOOD was your point about Genesis highlighting how something so weak, i.e., mere words, were used so powerfully to create the universe because God! What a great corrective to this whole word-of-faith, name-it-into-existence movement. 👍
Mike is one of the most down to earth, common sense pastors I've listened to on youtube and radio. It's a pleasure listening.
Your Freudian slip at :36 summed it up nicely “the only way that Satan..that sentence could work..”. You got it right the first time.
Time to download this video to my computer before it gets taken down haha
For me, the biggest thing is whether we're talking about proclaiming something from scripture or not. As a Christ-follower, proclaiming a promise that God gave in His Word over your life or a situation is something that doesn't bother me at all. Saying over and over that God's going to give you a Porche, for no reason other than you really want a Porche, with no mention of how that would even glorify God... yeah, I'm not feeling that one so much.
Yes! The powerful words are God’s words and I want to declare them!
I laugh so hard to when I hear you say these things, I used to be mixed up with these word of faith fools, I guess I was a fool too. But thank God for brother Mike Winger helping me to see the light 🙏 🙌 ❤
Once I accepted God never answers prayer, life became easier. Less stress.
@Plisken65 you mean once you realised God isn't your butler and won't give you everything you want? Sure.
@@Plisken65Knowing God answers the prayers of His children, that are according to His will, make life a lot less stressful for those who love and trust Him. There's so much peace that comes from trusting in Him.
@@Plisken65 Biblically, God only answers prayer in the way you want if it is IN LINE with his will.
So praying for your friend to be healed from cancer (for example)... that would be great, but it may not be in line with God's will. So it may not happen.
It may be such that through your friend suffering and dying from cancer, hundreds of years from now, 30 people will be saved and go to heaven who would not have been saved if your friend hadn't died.
God does answer prayer in the way we want, but not always. There was a woman named Barbara Cummiskey who was bedridden and had completely atrophied legs. A Christian radio show asked its audience to pray for her. She got many cards because of that, which is evidence that a lot of people did pray for her.
She was healed completely. She got out of her bed and walked, as if her legs had never atrophied.
@@Plisken65
While I'm at a loss to understand your comment,
There is a bit of truth in there....
Hope for the best
Prepare for the worst and you'll never be disappointed!
You can’t speak things into existence but you can certainly destroy them.
What?
That literally goes against everything he just said (which is correct)
I think they meant words can end relationships and cause someone to take their life.
@@PoofyPidove yes thank you. That’s what I meant
You've just contradicted yourself
"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" "you realize nothing changed right, just from you saying the word bankruptcy" "I didn't say it, I declared it!"
😂 this comment wins
That was one of the most cringy funny episodes of the office!
Spend enough time saying it and it might just come true.
I was told the same thing (i.e., ordering at McDonald's you make a request which is manifested when you receive your order). I'm so grateful the LORD opened my eyes. I was under teaching like his for over 30 years. My prayer is GOD would open ppl hearts and eyes.🙏🏾
That very thing was being taught to me in Minnesota. So much for praying God’s will. God doesn’t tell us to speak things into being.
"The power is in Jesus Christ, not in us." Amen dude
I shared this immediately on my Facebook page, for what it's worth. But, I can't seem to dissuade anyone from this unbiblical practice 😔
Facebook suppresses links because they don't want people leaving Facebook. Just like UA-cam not wanting links in comments here.
@@FRN2013 Well, guess I'll have to go to Mike's page and reshare
Remember the scripture that says you have not because you ask not and when you ask you ask to consume upon your own lust.
That in a nutshell is WORD OF FAITH garbage.
@@princessbabibear4794 I'm only 6 months out of an unbeknownst to me, Word of Faith church. I'm still reeling, and most of my friends are still deceived😪I can't seem to sway them
We can plant seeds, the Holy Spirit convicts. Do what you can and pray! ♥️🙏
this is really good stuff Mike thank you. I hear a lot about how powerful words are and I think a lot of people take that too far as to thinking their words have a supernatural power of some kind.
I think there are a good amount of Christians who believe that their words are powerful when they align them with what God’s word says. it’s like activating their faith and aligning their faith with the things the Bible says that are harder to hold on to. Such as believing for a healing for a health condition etc. it is inviting God into a bad situation and not letting your own thoughts or anxieties run wild. if we are saved by our confession then surely words laced with faith are powerful. ❤❤❤❤❤
I believe that our confession is really our acknowledgment to ourselves and to God that He is saving us right then and there - not that the confession in itself does the saving work.
@@josephjimorris but if we don’t say it then we are not saved. 😂
“I Declare BANKRUPTCY!!!” 😂 Sorry, it popped into my head and couldn’t get it out.
Someone else posted that here as well! So funny! 😂
Yeah that’s not how it works, Michael.😂😂😂😂
Lots of pastors say “ in the name of Jesus, I declare……
Yeah, sounds conflicting
The only truth behind with any of this is that saying, thinking, and seeing it in your mind brings more mind attention (focus) to it, and we usually act in line with what occupies our mental space the most. There's definitely some neuroplasticity going on with some of these things, but not some vibrational/heavenly shift because we arbitrarily rattle off some words or phrases.
Exactly, very well said ❤
Thank you for that. Some sanity for once.
Well done Mike! So glad to share this with others. Key point of Proverbs 18:21 -" those who love it will eat it's fruit." I.e. they love the *tongue* and use it *too much* and get themselves in trouble.
Also love your point about words being weak. We used to hear the phrases "words are cheap," and "it's hard to find a man of his word." Because you can say anything, but the proof of a man's character is what he does and whether his words match his character.
Oh man, you included a clip of him. His copyright people are going to be out for blood again in true Osteen form.
Had a person in a prayer group I was involved with always pray, "I declare and decree". Eventually the leader of the group confronted her in love, and corrected her.
The leader of the group sounds like someone who would have tried to confront Jesus too. Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."
@@whynot496That’s not how prophecy works unfortunately.
i made a video on him and called him an "ear tickler" because these sort of preachers only say what you want to hear, not what you need to hear. "Gods gonna give you money and fame!" but not "you need to work for your job and stop being lazy, because you cant get everything for free." It sounds harsh but its reailty, and reailty is REAL.
A new church opened up near me a year ago. They opened their doors with only an empty church, a stage, four host personalities, tv cameras and microphones. Went to their YT channel and watched them broadcasting online to an empty church (you would only know if you saw the empty parking lot in person), as if they were a successful going enterprise. They are in the style of Todd White or Furtik in their manic preaching, upbeat music presentation, and snazzy, youthful dress. As the weeks went on, two to four, to eight to twelve more cars were added every Sunday. This Sunday, their lot was full, they poured over into the Bowling Alley's lot and took up three fourths of the malls general parking. They dreamed it, they spoke it, and it happened. But of course, this wasn't their powerful words speaking into existence, but just the business savvy to know this is what today's "Christians" want -- a performance, to be entertained, to be lied to with perverted Scripture interpretations, otherwise, the people would not be listening to the voice of another shepherd.
We were warned this would happen a long time ago. It’s everywhere now. It’s only my hope and trust in the Lord that makes me want to keep fighting for His bride to know freedom. So many believers are backward in their thinking and don’t know it. Too often they don’t want to hear about it either. It makes me grieve for them.
Did you actually listen to their sermons or are you just judging them based on their appearances?
Also last time I checked Furtick and Mike Todd are not false teachers (I don’t agree with both of their antics )
I got caught up with the Bethel Jesus said the words I speak to you are Spirit and they are life. Jesus speaking things into existence and I believe inferring we are human beings can do the same things. I am still working through this but I admit I liked BJ and took what he said without really examining it. I have to say that its only been the last year or so I have stopped listening to this kind of stuff and started reading g the bible instead. It's quite weird but when I stopped listening to this type of teaching and reading Gods word I began realising that tge two two dont match up. Don't know what else to say other than thank you Mr Winger .
Thank you for talking about this. I’ve been wrestling with this concept for a long time. It’s hard to get good teaching on it.
Praying for the will of God to be done is powerful.
Peace, wisdom, discernment, discretion, humility, over the Church in Jesus' name.
All I did was call out and He saved me!!
The power is in Him not us!! YES!! Amen!! Thank you Jesus.
Loving these short clips. Shared your coffee one on my health forum that gets alot of traffic. He made us Fishers of men!!
Think I will share this one too. Thanks Pastor Mike.
He is a smiley, prosperity motivational speaker. Only God has the power to speak things into existence.
Thank you Mike. I’ve met so many people who think this way and tried to teach it to me, as well.
Thank you Mike for sharing this ❤
5:53 great moment to clip! That needs to become a meme clip you can play/use when someone says something that's not true😂🤣!
Thank you for your explanation on this topic, which is so helpful.
Be blessed.
Amen! Thank you for sharing and refuting this 🙏
“I’ll take “What is witch-craft?” For $200 , Alex.”
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Keep up the great analysis brother, you are a blessing!
I love how much beef Mike has with Joel Osteen 😂
Popcorn 🍿 anyone ?
I'm here for the biblical truth bombs and drama!
That's good because Osteen is turning the Bible into a self-help book. It should be about what you can do for God, not what He can do for you.
I know those aren't mutually exclusive but every time I see his content he's just talking about how God can benefit "you".
For good reason.
He doesn’t have a “beef“ with him, he is pointing out false doctrine and that is exactly what he is supposed to do. Joel Osteen is a FALSE preacher.
Love the T shirt😅
Yes, thanks pastor Mike, you always speak with wisdom 👌🏼🇿🇦
"You calling on Jesus is Weak Sauce" Thank you, I needed that today 🤣🤣🤣
Right on, Mike!
Thank you for making these. The wisdom God has given you is incredibly useful to me.
God is the only one who can speak things into existence!!
Are you sure about that? Mark 11:23 "Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him."
@@whynot496 these Christians contradict themselves so much. Ye are gods, but they act like mere mortals
I CANNOT MANIFEST ANYTHING IN MY LIFE
ALL GLORY TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
Love that, You use humour in your Video's , really helps - especially with newcomers to Christianity/Bible. 🆒
Had a friend in college that did this Word claiming thing and went so insane he stopped working and school as he believed he would get all the wealth he commanded. He bragged about the homes and cars yet to come.
Had to beg him to get professional help after months went by and he was still in self deception. He was like a zombie for years as he was so sincere and soft hearted about being lied too. I doubt he has recovered to a sound life and doctrine.
Speak the Truth in love SO THAT we will be connected to God. Eph4
I want to say this, there are TONS of ministers/ churches headed in this direction I know it’s almost too easy with Joel but let us be mindful of these false teachings are very common as our “christian” culture has deviated sound teaching
As a poet, I have a sincere belief in the power of words; but that power, of course, is merely derrived from the ability of words to communicate a perspective on reality. Any attempt to give words power to create a reality, not only offends my office of developing poetic and beautiful ways of communicating reality, but also attempts to give words a power they oughtn't have and thus limits our ability to correctly speak them.
Very well said ❤
I’ve heard it said that we are snared by our words. Is this along the same lines?
Love the t-shirt! My husband has one that says, “My dog thinks I’m cool”.
I first watched a Joel Osteen "sermon" while a very young Christian. I didn't know much but I knew something felt very off with him. ALso, the way he blinks too much is like someone who avoids the gaze of a person who knows they're lying. Except that the someone he's lying to is everywhere so Osteen has to blink that much to "avoid" the gaze if only for a blink-while
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Yeah there's a big distinction between how your words and self-narrative effect your mindset and how you behave, because how a man thinketh so is he, as opposed to trying to practice the law of attraction or manifestation or witchcraft or something. Big difference in those things lol😂
Such a good explanation!
Exactly, well put ❤
Name it and claim it. Blab it and grab it
“Believe it and retrieve it”
Thank you I loved this and it really helped me to understand that scripture better.
My mom went to a Rhema church (Kenneth Hagan, the godfather of the word of faith movement. I was surprised when I found out that Kenneth got the name it claim it idea from the metaphysical cults of the late 19th century. I did not like those teachings of believing that "as a man thinketh, so is he". She and I disagreed on it. It always felt wrong to me.
So I can just speak things into existence? Ok.
"Apartment you are now clean. Dishes you are washed. And my head ache is cured."
Gee, nothing happened. Guess I don't have enough faith 😊 lol
Mike, I love your shirt. Where did you get it? I'd love to find one. :) Love and prayers from Canada.
This was very relevant with the amount of people that say speech is violence
Hey Mike, thankyou for this explanation. What about the biblical principle of cursings & blessings. Could you add some more details perhaps? Thanks so much. God bless you 🙏
Anytime Mike does a video on Joel Olsteen, I watch it right away just in case it disappears.
Thank you so much for explaining this. I have friends who believe in this false explanation of the scripture
The power of human words is in their influence on human minds.
I find it quite interesting that a new age teaching ad was played when I clicked on this video.
I remember watching that clip in the 20 questions video a little while back, and the examples you use make me chuckle because they are so spot on. My only question would be if there is any power behind the words if they truly meant what they said? Does the intent of the words, or even someone trying to curse you give them any power?
I ask those kind of questions too. Where the line is? I believe that God gives us some level of capability in this world. I just don’t know how much. I think we presume way too far in what authority we have sometimes. We aren’t the masters of the universe. But Psalm 8 is written about us, so I’m still trying to find the boundary lines for this.
As I do not agree with some of the very 'liberal" attitudes towards the words we speak about our words speaking universes into existence, nor the whole name it and claim it belief of the prosperity gospel, etc. However, I will say from first hand experience that the words we speak do have a very real affect on the world around us and they are seed sown into our lives.. What happened to me was that while my wife and I were discussing an issue involving her ex-husband, in a moment of frustration, I let that affect my thoughts and I said something derogatory about this individual.. Fast forward a week later, my daughter said the VERY SAME THING about me to my other daughter via a text message she showed her mom.. The Lord really disciplined me over this and used it to show me just how much the words I speak DO matter. Relating to what you mentioned too Mike, if you are married and are always speaking harshly with a sarcastic and negative attitude and manner towards your spouse, it will not only damage the marriage relationship, but 9 times out of 10 that attitude will begin to affect your spouse and they will start to speak to YOU in the same manner you have spoken to them.
So the words you say DO matter, they are seed sown which reveal our hearts. Matthew 12: 34-37, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and and evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Just as fruit contains seeds of the same kind, so do the fruit of our hearts, our words, carry seed when spoken. If its good seeds sown by the words we speak, then the fruit will be good. If its bad seed by the words we speak, then it will be bad fruit. The seed follows the nature of the fruit just like our words follow the nature of our heart's condition. All the more reason I pray the scriptures over my wife, my kids and my family.
The "grounding rod" of what we should be speaking and not be speaking, etc. is the Word of God. Not some fanatical proclamation of getting a bunch of money if you are in debt up to your eyeballs and spend your paycheck unwisely as soon as you get it. Or speaking health over yourself if you eat junk food all the time and do not somewhat attempt to take care of your body.. It all has to be balanced and in line with the Word of God.
So we need to be mindful of swinging too far one way or the other about how we view the words we speak.
The words you just “spoke” here had the power to make me stop reading them. Dude, you don’t have to write a sermon to make a point. Go look up the word “brevity”.
”Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.“
Colossians 4:6
Is also applicable to the words we speak.
Congratulations on 667,000 followers, Mike!!!!
Amen! Brother Mike. I know several people that believe this nonsense. God is all powerful. Praise the one and only Truth and Life. I wish I was as eloquent..
Back in the 1980s we called this "speaking things into existence" thing: Charismatic Witchcraft.