How I CURRENTLY Understand The Bible Saying "Women Be Silent In The Church"
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2021
- I am totally open to changing my mind on this passage but I do currently think this is the right way to understand it and I didn't come to this opinion rashly.
My research project on the topic of women in ministry and related issues is going to start once I'm done teaching through the Gospel of Mark (probably less than two months from now) and I hope I can offer real clarity on all this stuff. I know how important the issue is and how important it is that we strip away confusion and truly follow what God is telling us.
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I know this topic brings up a TON of good questions but I will tackle those when I do my big teaching on everything the Bible says about women in ministry a few months from now.
As a woman the further I get in my faith journey the more beautiful I find these passages. I was taught to be a strong woman, and I believe it takes a strong woman to be a gentle, quiet spirit with self control. Women can often be argumentative and stubborn. I find myself the most at peace and close to God when I’m fulfilling the roles he sets in the Bible.
When i was a nonbeliever I was a loud, prideful, obnoxious woman. I wish i was born with the knowledge that silence is powerful. Silent can stop a fight in its tracks. Silence can save a marriage or a friendship or even your job or your life. Silence is a true gift. controlling our tongues is wise and takes a lot of self discipline
When it comes to submitting to a husband, I'm being very careful when choosing who I marry. I want to fill our biblical roles, so I need to choose someone fully committed to God.
We as followers of CHRIST need to know that GOD overall is the head of the household and when their is a decision that needs to be made, we as men need to go to CHRIST with it at all times. If the head of the household is not grounded in CHRIST, it can cripple the family.
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I am a woman and in no way did I find this offensive. Right on Mike Winger!
Has anyone looked at this passage from the point of view of the husband? Specifically, why is it that Paul says the woman is supposed to ask her HUSBAND at home? If the husband is supposed to be the spiritual head of the household, and yet is failing in that duty, and the wife is left needing to ask questions in the Church, then how does that reflect on his performing his assigned role? I think this passage is in part at least intending to reaffirm the role of the husband and to hold him accountable for being the spiritual head of the household. If the husband is truly submitted to Christ, and is truly feeding himself, when the wife has questions she ought to be able to go to her husband and ask, outside of the service. And if the husband can’t answer, he can go to the elders and teachers for clarification. Doing all of this in front of the whole church short circuits that whole process, and does not let the husband grow in his role or learning or knowledge or leadership.
I was in the Navy. Could you imagine if one of us sailors questioned and probed the Captain as he was addressing the crew and giving orders? Submitting is a process of order and discipline that is necessary for cohesion. The military needs it, businesses need it, families need it, and churches need it.
I once attended a church that took this verse quite literally. Women were not allowed to give a testimony or even pray aloud. They could only sing, and speaking was only allowed after the service was officially over. Churches really need a biblical interpretation of these verses if they are to successfully represent Christ in their treatment of women.
"Her submission is intentional." Man, I really love that. It adds value and makes me want to thank my wife in every instance she defers to me for leadership. I acknowledge that her 'submission' is a gift and absolutely conditional, not to be taken for granted.
I'm a female.
This verse is not talking about women not to preach in church. It is talking about how married women are to behave in church. For those who jump on this verse to preach that women are not supposed to speak who will the unmarried women speak to at home. Married women subject themselves to their husbands.
I happened to stumble onto this video in 2024, and I'm so happy I did! I'll never forget the time I heard a preacher say women should not speak in the church. I was a teen at the time. I looked at my dad, and he said I know, we will talk after. And this being in the Bible has been something in the back of my mind. (I've also seen stuff online saying that there are no women in Heaven bc it says we will be like Christ was when he was resurrected.) And honestly, I decided that I don't have the need to speak in the church, but I also have not been at a church sermon in a very long time and planning to find one in the town I live in. But, also, I've been watching the Chosen and see that women were very important. And that maybe the speaking in church was bc women just had a different role in the church, like teaching Bible school, or perhaps it's helping care for the babies and children bc it comes natural to us usually. Hearing this explanation does not make me feel remotely oppressed. The concern of making women feel less than bc of the text of the Bible feels like it's done a greater disservice to women overall. Being mothers and all the great things about how we are naturally is being watered down, and it does not appear that is making things better. But it does make total sense to not start interrogating or questioning during church. I an attempt to keep this under novel length, thank you for this explanation!
The enemy preys on our weaknesses. Pride being the first.
Mr. Winger, thank you for the analysis and proper tone. You are one of few that cares enough to do that. Thank you again.
Great answer, Mike. Looking forward to your upcoming teaching on this...
Galatians 5:22-23
Thank you for speaking the truth pastor Mike. I'm moved by all the godly women in the comments who have shared their experiences. Praise God.
Having gone the way of a "strong woman" as defined by society and walked the Biblical role of a woman it's clear to me that we have undervalued the Biblical role of women and womanhood.