Thank you for the video. Just an idea- remember Monte; a little push away at the top, trying to move the club in the other direction (not at the ball) will add free speed.
@@swisstrader Brendon has done a lot of videos with Monte Scheinblum, and I thought he might remember something that I know I’ve read (Golf Digest w/in the last year or so, I think) from Monte about getting some momentum of the club away from the body, and ball, at the start of the downswing. Kinda challenging to write about, sorry. It does work for speed and it’s not any real effort, so I thought I’d throw it out there. Ok, looks like Oct 2022 Golf Digest article- a google search of Monte’s name and Golf Digest article finds it. He actually adds stuff about wrist flexion, but I get a speed boost just by starting the club away from the ball. Seems counterintuitive, but the physics work.
One of my bucket list items is to have an in person lesson with Milo. Love these videos. When you watch his swing at the end, the one thing that sticks out to me is how open his lower body gets before his arms and club head swoosh through the ball toward the target. Also, not firing the wrists through the ball, but letting momentum hold the angle through impact. Totally working on these feels this winter.
Milo is a genius at this. He looked at my swing during online lesson for 2 minutes and gave me a couple adjustments: night and day improvement instantly, and much more after doing the assigned drills for a couple weeks. There's no substitute for getting feedback from a great instructor.
@@johnnysanchez4996 First lesson was $80 for half an hour. I joined the website when I got such great results so quickly, so second lesson was I think only $60 with member rate. Website is fairly pricey, but I'm using it so feel like it's worth it. One thing that really impressed me is that he instantly spotted something major: I had strengthened my grip, but was continuing to bow my wrist as I had with a neutral grip, not the right match-up. By simply keeping a flat or even slightly cupped wrist in the backswing, instantly felt solid and natural. 15 handicap suddenly shooting scores in the 70s, and with a run of 22 holes at +3 despite 3 3-putts thrown in the mix.
When Milo mentioned he’s not flexible it surprised me. But a closer look ,he throws out all of the junk about needing a 90 degree shoulder turn (he’s not ) and high hands extension at the top ,not even close, but on the thru swing he gets his body out of the way and let’s his fast hands work. His impact position really highlights his baseball skills. Impressive and really gives us less flexible people some hope😏
You're both incredible. I could see you really going at it to get the 113+ speeds, then Milo steps in and does it without breaking a sweat. But I try giving it everything, using Kwon drills etc. and I'm ripping my lat muscles and barely getting 100. One of these years I'm going to attend one of your workshops and find out how to actually notch my speed up. Keep up the great vids.
Milo makes everything look effortless and hits it straight as well amazing. That’s why he beat Drew in that driving contest last year his dispersion was off the charts
The best advice I've heard Milo say that has helped me & can help other weekend warriors is "Put yourself in a position at the top where physics can make everything happen". Good wrist and body angles at the top & your body can just take its natural course on the down swing. If it Feels forced or manipulated, you'll never be consistent.
This was insane! Milo makes it look effortless and my guy in the green looks like he is giving it everything he has to get to 112 and 160ish! Crazy. This is maddening! Curse you golf Gods! Why!! My take always are a bigger more full swing, get some rhythm, club face up on the take away. Wow. Lots to practice. I do the hardest half swing in golf. You guys showed my swing exactly. I take it back like half way and then try to swing out of my shoes. Ugh. I suck
Key takeaway in my experience is keep moving, flowing aspect. When you watch Milo his flow is so smooth it gives as effortless impression. The great swings often look like that.
Great content! Can you and Milo do a video on the feeling of starting the swing with your left side scapula (pulling) versus right side engaging, leading with shoulder (pushing).
Always good... but a question....at the 10:45 mark you speak of the danger of the clubface being shut in the backswing. But shouldnt the clubface match the spine angle? (making it slightly shut)
i've been working on that body motion before the club but didn't know it, was more of a feel. sometimes i don't have to worry about the face, it seems to behave but if it doesn't i have to make sure the two bones in my left forearm and the back of the hand square up and turn over coming down.
Milo said it "loose". That's really the key ingredient. Maintain structure but keep it loose and smooth, don't rush from the top. You won't be able to hit it further with greater force/exertion. I can attest to hitting it well over 300 swinging like this. The temptation is to 'hit it harder'. Brendon, get Kurt Kitayama on your channel. He absolutely crushes it with little effort.
Look at the difference between Milo’s clubhead at the top of the backswing and Brandons. Milo’s clubhead is nearly back to his left shoulder while Brandon’s looks like he stops w clubhead around mid back. Big difference there
Stage 3 swing seems like the only times the backswing is completed .. does the throw forward relax the mind ? Allowing you to set the club back without the snatch transition? I go with Freddy couples , nice slow wide takeaway and try and ease into the acceleration through the ball . I do not hit anything like 290 mind you but only play once a week I’m 54 and usually get 240 into the fairway
@@BEBETTERGOLF I tried the Bender method with practice foam balls in a field today. WOW the ball was zipping off the face like never before! I'm sold! Thanks for the reply and you have a great channel 🏌️🔥
Watch this video multiple times and Milo is so loose in his trigger and throw back that it seems effortless. Then he shallows the club on the down swing ( He does this same whether it’s driver or 50 yard chip with wedge) and turns out of the way. I saw it in person no warm up borrowed friends driver hit it 325 first swing. It’s why I like his teaching because he practices what he preaches.
@@MiloLinesGolf Me too never seen a shot like that before. Blue sky ball went so high almost lost it and you aimed a little right so u did not hit anyone in the front of the range😎👍
So l have a question about P8...Milo speaks to the concept of the pivot driving driving impact and the hands not releasing much at all. EVERY high level golfer, at P8, you can see the left hand glove at this point. Meaning the right hand has released and isn't "holding on". This seems extremely counter intuitive to what is actually happening in the swing, and if anything is a move that kills power. Thoughts?
By then the release is naturally happen in a full speed motion. I don't hang on unless maybe I'm hitting a knock down, but I definitely am not purposefully throwing or releasing. People worry too much about the release in my opinion.
Milo is a good athlete and has incorporated his baseball swing to golf. My question is can he play/score or just a driving range hero. Does he play in pro tournaments or top amateur events ? Just curious .
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks for replying. Just curious because there is a lot of teachers/coaches on line who can’t break 80. With your distance that should not be a problem. Distance is where the game is at but as the saying goes drive for show putt for dough. Do you play tournament golf. If so pro/amateur?
I"d say Jon Rahm and Tony Finau have some pretty short back swings. They crush it pretty good. In this video I'm just not seeing "effortless" power. Ernie Els, Fred Couples and Sam Snead come to my mind. But, enjoyed the video nevertheless.
Those two guys you mentioned are both over 6 feet tall. When Finau makes a full swing too about my length, he hits it with 210+ ball speed, much higher than what he plays with on Tour.
@@MiloLinesGolf where do you think Finau gets his speed from so quick? I'm 6'2”and have a short swing, I always feel I pull with my left lats hard, but stuck at that 100-104. Isn't Finau kinda flat footed but flairs/spins/lifts that left foot at impact and beyond? He stated in one interview that he knows where his speed comes from. tia Amazing all the posts you respond to!
@@gzman1 Tony is 6’4 with a wing span around 6’8 with a normal full swing he produces well over 200 ball speed and with his short little flick 180. His speed comes from his athleticism and frame he has good sequence but has shortened his motion for control
I never understand this concept of catching momentum in a normal takeaway. It’s hard to get any momentum in it if you can’t really swing it from a forward position first.
Funny, golfers known for 'effortless power' like Sam Snead, Fred Couples, etc. all say they give it all they have through the ball. Looking back at your past videos with John Erickson and ABS, he talks about holding shaft flex and have a 'hit' at the ball. Even Dr. Kwon (my Spirit Animal) always says, "Then let it go!" through the ball. What is my point? Feels are so hard to put into words.
I'm 58 years old and have won 40 amateur tournaments and I've been flipping my wrists the whole time. If I had learned this years ago you would all know my name. *sadface
How the Hell is the ball going that far with a 112mph swing speed...296yds? I know when I hit one at 110mph,perfect numbers,smash ect...doesn't go but maybe 270yds carry
Contact in the sweet spot makes a huge difference as well as angle of attack. Look at Brendon's numbers. His carry distance on a couple at really fast clubhead and ball speed didn't go very far.
You are both funny. There is no effortless swing there because your power comes from the arm and body muscles which you've developed for so many years (maybe since you were kids) and it produced fast swing speed. I've been playing golf for 20 years plus, and I've experienced that swing speed translate into distance and muscles produce fast swing speed!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video. Just an idea- remember Monte; a little push away at the top, trying to move the club in the other direction (not at the ball) will add free speed.
@@PXGProto interesting but what does that mean exactly?
@@swisstrader Brendon has done a lot of videos with Monte Scheinblum, and I thought he might remember something that I know I’ve read (Golf Digest w/in the last year or so, I think) from Monte about getting some momentum of the club away from the body, and ball, at the start of the downswing. Kinda challenging to write about, sorry. It does work for speed and it’s not any real effort, so I thought I’d throw it out there. Ok, looks like Oct 2022 Golf Digest article- a google search of Monte’s name and Golf Digest article finds it. He actually adds stuff about wrist flexion, but I get a speed boost just by starting the club away from the ball. Seems counterintuitive, but the physics work.
One of my bucket list items is to have an in person lesson with Milo. Love these videos. When you watch his swing at the end, the one thing that sticks out to me is how open his lower body gets before his arms and club head swoosh through the ball toward the target. Also, not firing the wrists through the ball, but letting momentum hold the angle through impact. Totally working on these feels this winter.
Highly recommended!!!!!!! Just did one of the schools in phoenix. Absolutely amazing!!!!!!!
Milo is a genius at this. He looked at my swing during online lesson for 2 minutes and gave me a couple adjustments: night and day improvement instantly, and much more after doing the assigned drills for a couple weeks. There's no substitute for getting feedback from a great instructor.
Which platform did you use for the online lessons? Interested but hard to find good instructors with us.
How much was his lessons
@@SugarGreg I used the Milo Lines platform.
@@johnnysanchez4996 First lesson was $80 for half an hour. I joined the website when I got such great results so quickly, so second lesson was I think only $60 with member rate. Website is fairly pricey, but I'm using it so feel like it's worth it. One thing that really impressed me is that he instantly spotted something major: I had strengthened my grip, but was continuing to bow my wrist as I had with a neutral grip, not the right match-up. By simply keeping a flat or even slightly cupped wrist in the backswing, instantly felt solid and natural. 15 handicap suddenly shooting scores in the 70s, and with a run of 22 holes at +3 despite 3 3-putts thrown in the mix.
@@cpking7 I just joined his online school. I hope he can help me out. His swing looks so effortless but is so hard to do.
Dr Kwon and Milo! Two of my favorites!
Would love to hear Milo’s thoughts on the GEM training tool or see him teaching with it.
Wow this was incredible
Thanks for watching!
When Milo mentioned he’s not flexible it surprised me. But a closer look ,he throws out all of the junk about needing a 90 degree shoulder turn (he’s not ) and high hands extension at the top ,not even close, but on the thru swing he gets his body out of the way and let’s his fast hands work. His impact position really highlights his baseball skills. Impressive and really gives us less flexible people some hope😏
You're both incredible. I could see you really going at it to get the 113+ speeds, then Milo steps in and does it without breaking a sweat. But I try giving it everything, using Kwon drills etc. and I'm ripping my lat muscles and barely getting 100. One of these years I'm going to attend one of your workshops and find out how to actually notch my speed up. Keep up the great vids.
Milo makes everything look effortless and hits it straight as well amazing. That’s why he beat Drew in that driving contest last year his dispersion was off the charts
The best advice I've heard Milo say that has helped me & can help other weekend warriors is "Put yourself in a position at the top where physics can make everything happen". Good wrist and body angles at the top & your body can just take its natural course on the down swing. If it Feels forced or manipulated, you'll never be consistent.
This was insane! Milo makes it look effortless and my guy in the green looks like he is giving it everything he has to get to 112 and 160ish! Crazy. This is maddening! Curse you golf Gods! Why!! My take always are a bigger more full swing, get some rhythm, club face up on the take away. Wow. Lots to practice. I do the hardest half swing in golf. You guys showed my swing exactly. I take it back like half way and then try to swing out of my shoes. Ugh. I suck
Keep at it and be sure to come to a future school or use the link in the description to check out my academy if I can be of further help.
@@MiloLinesGolf thank you!
His latest on COM behind and left side clearing is quite good.
The baseball clips embedded cleared it up a lot for me when I rehearsed them.
Thanks for following along!
Drew has the best takeaway motion, imo. Looking great Brendon!
Key takeaway in my experience is keep moving, flowing aspect. When you watch Milo his flow is so smooth it gives as effortless impression. The great swings often look like that.
Good feel!
Milo is a great athlete, he can sense things that most weekend golfers can’t. But inspirational anyway
Great video. Would love to see a follow up on how to get the forces going early in the takeaway. It’s currently something I’m working on, too.
Really good one! Milo is the man!
Hilarious! Milo’s just waved at the ball to get 1.72. The mind boggles!!
i don't know how effortless that was but it was fun to watch, i got some advil if you need them.
Great content sir I’m glad I ran into at the range.
Thanks for watching!
Great content! Can you and Milo do a video on the feeling of starting the swing with your left side scapula (pulling) versus right side engaging, leading with shoulder (pushing).
Always good...
but a question....at the 10:45 mark you speak of the danger of the clubface being shut in the backswing. But shouldnt the clubface match the spine angle? (making it slightly shut)
Depends on matchups.
i've been working on that body motion before the club but didn't know it, was more of a feel. sometimes i don't have to worry about the face, it seems to behave but if it doesn't i have to make sure the two bones in my left forearm and the back of the hand square up and turn over coming down.
You need to do a course clog. We see you doing lots of drills and new ideas, but how is it translating to your score?
an old but good training aid would help in this one, dan martin the pro does wonders for body isolation
YES!
@@BEBETTERGOLF Thanks for the reply! I love your content, keep up the good work
Milo said it "loose". That's really the key ingredient. Maintain structure but keep it loose and smooth, don't rush from the top. You won't be able to hit it further with greater force/exertion. I can attest to hitting it well over 300 swinging like this. The temptation is to 'hit it harder'. Brendon, get Kurt Kitayama on your channel. He absolutely crushes it with little effort.
Look at the difference between Milo’s clubhead at the top of the backswing and Brandons. Milo’s clubhead is nearly back to his left shoulder while Brandon’s looks like he stops w clubhead around mid back. Big difference there
Milo is the man!! Thanks Brendan, we wanna see you at 180 bro! Stop jerkin it! 😂😂
Stage 3 swing seems like the only times the backswing is completed .. does the throw forward relax the mind ? Allowing you to set the club back without the snatch transition?
I go with Freddy couples , nice slow wide takeaway and try and ease into the acceleration through the ball .
I do not hit anything like 290 mind you but only play once a week I’m 54 and usually get 240 into the fairway
Great video .....Have you ever thought of getting with Paul Wilson
Does the Mike Bender downswing still apply here? I'm getting confused what to do....
I’d say no
@@BEBETTERGOLF I tried the Bender method with practice foam balls in a field today. WOW the ball was zipping off the face like never before! I'm sold! Thanks for the reply and you have a great channel 🏌️🔥
You seemed to have more hip movement when you swung forward then back. Moveing your lower hips Allowed for a bigger turn and give more of a stretch.
Really interesting. Thanks
Thank u!
Watch this video multiple times and Milo is so loose in his trigger and throw back that it seems effortless. Then he shallows the club on the down swing ( He does this same whether it’s driver or 50 yard chip with wedge) and turns out of the way. I saw it in person no warm up borrowed friends driver hit it 325 first swing. It’s why I like his teaching because he practices what he preaches.
I remember that!
@@MiloLinesGolf
Me too never seen a shot like that before. Blue sky ball went so high almost lost it and you aimed a little right so u did not hit anyone in the front of the range😎👍
What if you hovered the club head further back (allowed some space) so that you could make a mini stage 3 toward the ball?
Good idea J
So l have a question about P8...Milo speaks to the concept of the pivot driving driving impact and the hands not releasing much at all. EVERY high level golfer, at P8, you can see the left hand glove at this point. Meaning the right hand has released and isn't "holding on". This seems extremely counter intuitive to what is actually happening in the swing, and if anything is a move that kills power. Thoughts?
By then the release is naturally happen in a full speed motion. I don't hang on unless maybe I'm hitting a knock down, but I definitely am not purposefully throwing or releasing. People worry too much about the release in my opinion.
this is good stuff
Dam I would be happy with those numbers! Carrying 290+ in the air.
I'm going to assume that there is something ground force related that is causing the difference between the tall guy and the shorter guy.
Brandon, can you use that swing on the golf course or would wild drives increase your score ??
I think I am going to develop it as my gamer. Trying to convince my son to swing like this on driver too
Are you wearing spikes on your shoes ?
Where u at altitude? Or was this trackman a little juiced? These numbers are a little off i think?
We had about 10 mph tail wind
Man David Lee was 40 years ahead of these guys. He taught the HEAVE and the COUNTERFALL. Which has now been rebranded "pressure ahead of movement".
Nothing new in the game. Even he most likely didn’t come up with anything truly original but he definitely had some good ideas.
Milo gets his elbows much closer together on the downswing than Brendon.
Milo is a good athlete and has incorporated his baseball swing to golf. My question is can he play/score or just a driving range hero. Does he play in pro tournaments or top amateur events ? Just curious .
I’ll let those that have watched me play speak on this. I’ll just say I don’t shoot over par very often.
@@MiloLinesGolf
Thanks for replying. Just curious because there is a lot of teachers/coaches on line who can’t break 80. With your distance that should not be a problem. Distance is where the game is at but as the saying goes drive for show putt for dough. Do you play tournament golf. If so pro/amateur?
@@djrondo1224 I don’t play a ton anymore but I do have more than 20 professional wins
SOMEONE >>>slow mo Milo's swing frame by frame and watch HOW he stands UP on both toes to try not to Invade the space where he is hitting the ball!
hi brendon-- Milos upper arms look a little straighter than yours at set up-- maybe try reacing a tiny bit more at set up to bomb it ? THANKS FOR VIDS
I"d say Jon Rahm and Tony Finau have some pretty short back swings. They crush it pretty good. In this video I'm just not seeing "effortless" power. Ernie Els, Fred Couples and Sam Snead come to my mind. But, enjoyed the video nevertheless.
Those two guys you mentioned are both over 6 feet tall. When Finau makes a full swing too about my length, he hits it with 210+ ball speed, much higher than what he plays with on Tour.
@@MiloLinesGolf where do you think Finau gets his speed from so quick? I'm 6'2”and have a short swing, I always feel I pull with my left lats hard, but stuck at that 100-104. Isn't Finau kinda flat footed but flairs/spins/lifts that left foot at impact and beyond? He stated in one interview that he knows where his speed comes from. tia Amazing all the posts you respond to!
@@gzman1 Tony is 6’4 with a wing span around 6’8 with a normal full swing he produces well over 200 ball speed and with his short little flick 180. His speed comes from his athleticism and frame he has good sequence but has shortened his motion for control
I’m a slow adult and have seen a lot of Milo’s videos but just noticed he is really steep on back swing and was missing that when trying his method
Side bend and wrist/arm structure.
How do you hit 1.51 smash factor with 116 swing speed and hit a smother hook? Doesnt make sense.
Hooks often have the fastest ball speeds
I never understand this concept of catching momentum in a normal takeaway. It’s hard to get any momentum in it if you can’t really swing it from a forward position first.
Can I have the effortless swing without the grunt? It`s easier on my back. Milo makes it look so simple
Funny, golfers known for 'effortless power' like Sam Snead, Fred Couples, etc. all say they give it all they have through the ball. Looking back at your past videos with John Erickson and ABS, he talks about holding shaft flex and have a 'hit' at the ball. Even Dr. Kwon (my Spirit Animal) always says, "Then let it go!" through the ball. What is my point? Feels are so hard to put into words.
Correct we all go at it hard but some look smoother than others doing it.
LOL! Effortless power? Check out Milo's arms. Funny, looking back at my 65 years on this planet, the stronger I was, the easier it was to hit it far.
I can make 170 ball speed with almost 0 effort but when I’m going 180 plus there is quite a lot of effort.
Just do the Jon Rahm swing...
I'm a solid 100 chs, 104 if I crank it, i think I've hit 110 in a perfect world twice, to reach 120 almost seems impossible...
I'm 58 years old and have won 40 amateur tournaments and I've been flipping my wrists the whole time. If I had learned this years ago you would all know my name. *sadface
Just here to report the bad news to all you fan boys, AMG just straight body bagged Milo in their latest video.
How the Hell is the ball going that far with a 112mph swing speed...296yds? I know when I hit one at 110mph,perfect numbers,smash ect...doesn't go but maybe 270yds carry
Contact in the sweet spot makes a huge difference as well as angle of attack. Look at Brendon's numbers. His carry distance on a couple at really fast clubhead and ball speed didn't go very far.
As you say, it is NOT effortless either when you or Milo swings the club.
You are both funny. There is no effortless swing there because your power comes from the arm and body muscles which you've developed for so many years (maybe since you were kids) and it produced fast swing speed. I've been playing golf for 20 years plus, and I've experienced that swing speed translate into distance and muscles produce fast swing speed!
Can we just watch Milo?
Sure looks like a lot of effort to me.
I thought this was about an effortless swing? 😆
effortless? dude was swinging his ass off..
Ughh
😳 Ｐ𝐫Ｏ𝕞Ｏ𝓢ｍ
1/2 the mass X velocity squared; there is NO power without effort!
Brendan does not look effortless - looks like he is swinging out of his shoes.
True!
@@BEBETTERGOLF I hear grunting and effort. Maybe be conscious of your muscles when you swing. I bet you tense up and don't stay loose like Milo said.