"Drilling on a lifeless opponent is mostly useless" I find a very ignorant viewpoint. As a example, trying to learn complex leg entries and follow up attacks without drilling is impossible unless you have a photographic memory. Kieran seems quite obtuse to this basic fact. Of course once you can complete the sequence then you can increase the resistance. The tennis analogy used was a stretch. It is like saying NBA players should only practice shooting over resisting opponents and never on perfecting their technique. Unless he's a savant and can pick up a sequence and not forget steps while only needing to perform it twice. Who knows. Maybe Kieran will go on to become the next John Danahar and I will be buying his instructionals. I'm slow and need people like Adam to help me be less stupid.
I see what you mean, but I think what you are describing is more an issue with the standard approach to teaching (in this case leg log entries). Honestly, I don't think there are too many 'complex' moves involved with many popular leg entries. Complex is often confused with too many steps. In reality, these moves require an understanding of a couple basic concepts (e.g. knee line control & inside position) and the entry will vary heaps depending on how your opponent reacts. Regarding follow up attacks, you will probably learn much faster if you get to practice in these positions (with safety considerations) and focus on the important concepts, like keeping the knee line & double-trouble. Also, I think you are mistaken in your NBA analogy, static drilling would be like telling someone they have to learn to shoot exactly like Steph, regardless of their physical differences. I think there is a place for learning the moves first on a non-resisting opponent, but I get bored after about a minute and check out. PS you should buy Keiren's courses 🤣.
@@nicholaspeoples5276 I see your points. When I was a white belt I went twice a day while the warm ups were x guard entry side to side. I did this for 2 weeks and still got confused which leg to stick where. I am definitely on the slower side of learning so perhaps I am bias to this. I really need to drill a move very deliberately in order for me to understand what I'm supposed to be doing. Of course increasing resistance as you workshop the technique is where you will spend the bulk of the time. I am a very big fan of positional sparring. Having said this I have seen people come into the gym and pick up inverted cross ashi entries in their first week like it was basic so maybe Kieran is one of those. In regards to Steph curry I'm sure his coach taught him shooting fundamentals before he developed his own style. Just like Ray Allen never liked keeping his elbow straight but he would have went through the motions of learning the basics. There my thoughts anyways. I've heard J rod doesnt drill he will just see a technique and perform it straight away perfectly. But he is a freak!
The never drilling model only makes sense if the students in the model are driven athletes. where as mentioned the average student is a clueless mess and will not simply figure it out. When that guy says he never teaches techniques he is being disingenuous for attention or leaving out that his students are learning techniques outside of his class.
very good subjects guys , loved this episode !
Go up a weight class and do the advanced division. Australia can not show weakness infront of the Vikings. You'll get us all invaded
hahahaha 🤣🤣
Kieren awfully close to making the case for ecological training 😂
you're not wrong hahah
"Drilling on a lifeless opponent is mostly useless" I find a very ignorant viewpoint.
As a example, trying to learn complex leg entries and follow up attacks without drilling is impossible unless you have a photographic memory. Kieran seems quite obtuse to this basic fact. Of course once you can complete the sequence then you can increase the resistance.
The tennis analogy used was a stretch.
It is like saying NBA players should only practice shooting over resisting opponents and never on perfecting their technique.
Unless he's a savant and can pick up a sequence and not forget steps while only needing to perform it twice.
Who knows. Maybe Kieran will go on to become the next John Danahar and I will be buying his instructionals.
I'm slow and need people like Adam to help me be less stupid.
I see what you mean, but I think what you are describing is more an issue with the standard approach to teaching (in this case leg log entries). Honestly, I don't think there are too many 'complex' moves involved with many popular leg entries. Complex is often confused with too many steps. In reality, these moves require an understanding of a couple basic concepts (e.g. knee line control & inside position) and the entry will vary heaps depending on how your opponent reacts.
Regarding follow up attacks, you will probably learn much faster if you get to practice in these positions (with safety considerations) and focus on the important concepts, like keeping the knee line & double-trouble.
Also, I think you are mistaken in your NBA analogy, static drilling would be like telling someone they have to learn to shoot exactly like Steph, regardless of their physical differences.
I think there is a place for learning the moves first on a non-resisting opponent, but I get bored after about a minute and check out.
PS you should buy Keiren's courses 🤣.
@@nicholaspeoples5276 I see your points.
When I was a white belt I went twice a day while the warm ups were x guard entry side to side. I did this for 2 weeks and still got confused which leg to stick where. I am definitely on the slower side of learning so perhaps I am bias to this. I really need to drill a move very deliberately in order for me to understand what I'm supposed to be doing. Of course increasing resistance as you workshop the technique is where you will spend the bulk of the time. I am a very big fan of positional sparring.
Having said this I have seen people come into the gym and pick up inverted cross ashi entries in their first week like it was basic so maybe Kieran is one of those.
In regards to Steph curry I'm sure his coach taught him shooting fundamentals before he developed his own style. Just like Ray Allen never liked keeping his elbow straight but he would have went through the motions of learning the basics.
There my thoughts anyways. I've heard J rod doesnt drill he will just see a technique and perform it straight away perfectly. But he is a freak!
The never drilling model only makes sense if the students in the model are driven athletes. where as mentioned the average student is a clueless mess and will not simply figure it out. When that guy says he never teaches techniques he is being disingenuous for attention or leaving out that his students are learning techniques outside of his class.