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*LIKE THIS SO OUR BOY JIMBO CAN SEE* The big thin washer that was behind the old crank timing gear, (obviously this car has had a timing belt done previously as this is installed incorrectly..) it's supposed to go back on AFTER the gear/belt and held against the gear by the crank pulley damper, making it impossible for the belt to walk further than the edge of the pulley, I've seen and experienced this exact problem with other engines, the washer should have a slight chamfer/angled edge on the outside that points towards the crank pulley damper when installed. The only other thing it could be is one of the new idler/tensioners are spaced out a hair more but if it is enough to make it walk off the gears you would be able to see this fairly easily looking at the motor side on
I think you’re right, I just commented the same thing and realized you said it already lol it’s the only thing I can think of that wouldn’t be noticeable right away
- you’re 100% correct. I’ve done the timing belt on my z32 many times and when I put the crank pulley and everything on, turned the engine to see if it’s all straight, I had the same issue as Jimbo. Then I noticed I forgot I had that big washer that goes behind the crank gear. The chamfer/curled edge is to guide the belt to the center. For his issue, I believe the belt is touching and moving towards the oil pump cover as it turns. Hopefully he reads this.
Who else can say they never miss an episode Jimmy puts out? I feel like I watch his episodes more then my OWN!! Haha 😂 Love the content Jimmy you truly motivate the heck out of me!
You have no idea how comforting it is to know that other people have tons of dumb issues that pile up for no reason on them when they’re working on a project.
Pretty sure you’re missing a washer that goes on the crank to keep the belt aligned. Not savvy with these engines but I’ve built and changed out plenty of Honda engines that utilizes washers on belt driven engines.
OMG! Imagine! That's all he needs! I've been down those rabbit holes with my builds, 3 weeks and tons of cursing just to feel like a total ash from one "GOD DANG MOTHER FRICKEN WASHER" lol. Ahh I hope he see's this comment.
@@BrokePremiere lol, yeah as he was messing around with this. I thought to myself I wish these videos were live so we can help and trouble shoot problems lol. Would of saved a lot of head ache for ole jimmy 😅
I dont think that new kit has room for that on the outside anymore. Perhaps he was supposed to eliminate the washer behind as well? Couldn't tell from the footage if that stayed on for the install, but it looked kinda banged up just before he installed the new kit.
Brooooo im glad im not the only one who went through this kinda pain, but man that 33 is sexy as all hell dude congrats. I recently finished reassembling my ej255 with rebuilt heads and other goodies aswell as a fresh Gates timing kit with a kevlar belt. Well one of my variable oil controlled cams jumped 1 tooth advanced with no explanation. Could watch my left and right variable intake cam system fight eachother on the datalogger. Theyd be fine and out of nowhere one cam would be at 20° the other at 40°. Reset the timing, started it, same shit. Tore it back down, re timed it again! Spun it over by hand several times, everything checked out. Put back together again, same shit. Ordered a different kit, this one having nothing but OEM bearings, Mitsuboshi belt and even a waterpump to boot. Tore all the gates crap off, followed the service manual, bled tensioner (hydraulic auto adjusting), re assembled amd rechecked the timing and even had other eyes verify it aswell just to be sure. Started it, didnt even run a full fan heat cycle let alone get past 180°F before a heavy misfire occurred and i just shut it down cleaned shop and just slept. Did some research, got a general idea what the problem is, but man dude the anxiety throughout this endeavor has been brutal.
Jimmy, i think that the belt problem is from you undoing the bolts on the exhaust cam, while the belt was under tension. When you put the bolts back in and tightened them, they weren't torqued the same and that makes that cam gear crooked which is making the belt walk
Hey Jimmy I just started this year working on cars for my university (I’m tryin’ to become an engineer 👨🏼🎓) and I finally realized how hard it can be. Now I truly appreciate you hard work!!! Keep it up you are amazing.
I like that kit. Looks way cleaner then a wire sticking out of the crank. Also I think it makes it look more built. You figure it would have the covered wire look originally so it looks cleaner
Jimmy the crank that washer on the inside should be on the outside to keep the belt from walking and you have it on the inside of the crank sprocket put it on the outside
Jimmy's law 1, the time you estimated to finish your project, multiply it by pi (3.142) Jimmy's law 2, whatever that moves, torque them to spec. Yes it's weird but it helps in the long run Jimmy's Law 3, to be determined.....
I had walking on my rb25 s2, it was because there was a plate behind the crank gear that holds the belt from coming forward, and a there is supposed to be a plate infront of the gear it's a plate for the crank gear to hold the belt from coming off !!!FRONT PLATE! FOR CRANK GEAR! IS WHAT YOUR MISSING, THERE IS A BACK PLATE AND FRONT PLATE TO HOLD THE BELT FROM WALKING OFF
your idler pulleys have built in spacers to keep pulley under the belt, this spacer has a flat edge that meets the block. THAT is what determins if your idler pulley is sitting square to the block or if it sits crooked causing a belt to walk.. place idler pulley on level surface, then use a level on face of pulley to see if face of pulley is level with your mating surface. this will tell you if your pulley spacer is causing idler pulley to sit crooked. the bolt itself dosent have to be perfectly straight, again as the pulley spacer itself is what keeps the pulley square to the block.. check your idler pulley spacers are squared.
I feel you pain. The entire day I was under my Mk1 golf. The engin mount broke apart. Sucks. And tried changing the coil pack again but still nothing then found I had no fuel pressure so I changed the the fuel pump. And now it's dark..... I need a garage
Not bad kid! 👍 getting there, I also agree that's a very beautiful Cam kit thinking about picking one up myself 💯... Side note I was just about to ask where our boy Bri bri was, wondering if I was the only one missing him. Knowing he's probably busy with work at his shop.... When's the s13 going to be finished??!
Jimmy you gotta come see me at Lebanon Ford Performance! Get you a 2021 F-150! We do supercharged truck builds as well and can do as much or as little as you’d like!
Nissan tensioner studs are typically a consumable item when doing the timing belt service otherwise they tend to snap. You need more friends used to VGs when working on non-SR Nissan motors lol
Hey jimmy, i had the same problem with my rb25. It was because i forgot to put one of the whasers on the bottom crank gear. It looks like you cant use the front one because of your new trigger gear.
For when you put your balancer back on, make sure you have it in 5th gear when tightening it with someone having their foot on the brake and also make sure you use the rb25 torque specs, not the 26 spec!
I was doing a timing belt on my 01 tundra with the 2uz v8 and so I had the cams aligned but just by me working around in the engine bay the driver side cam was a tiny bit off so I went to move it back with a Rachet and all of a sudden the cam turned 90° to the left while I was turning it back to the right to tdc. Fuckin scared me so bad cause I'd didnt know what happened and I thought I fucked my valves up. The valve springs probably put off so much pressure that it over came the gears in the rachet and turned or something. Anyway I careful set it back to tdc after and went to change out my underwear while I watched your vids lol. Truck runs fine now so thank God I didn't fuck em up
@@BlutundEhre1942 Why does he need an HKS one? He never said he wanted an HKS one and when DJ brought it up he just laughed, my point was that he could get an OEM one same day rather than wait for something he doesn’t need lol
timing belts handle ass loads of torque as that is what links you pistons to your valves.. be very very very hard to stretch or deform just from tightening underdrive pulley,
*LIKE THIS SO OUR BOY JIMBO CAN SEE* The big thin washer that was behind the old crank timing gear, (obviously this car has had a timing belt done previously as this is installed incorrectly..) it's supposed to go back on AFTER the gear/belt and held against the gear by the crank pulley damper, making it impossible for the belt to walk further than the edge of the pulley, I've seen and experienced this exact problem with other engines, the washer should have a slight chamfer/angled edge on the outside that points towards the crank pulley damper when installed. The only other thing it could be is one of the new idler/tensioners are spaced out a hair more but if it is enough to make it walk off the gears you would be able to see this fairly easily looking at the motor side on
that may be true, but his trigger wheel would make that washer useless, although I guess it should be removed completely then?
And what about those random knock sounds? Kinda more worried abt that than the belt ngl
I think you’re right, I just commented the same thing and realized you said it already lol it’s the only thing I can think of that wouldn’t be noticeable right away
- you’re 100% correct. I’ve done the timing belt on my z32 many times and when I put the crank pulley and everything on, turned the engine to see if it’s all straight, I had the same issue as Jimbo. Then I noticed I forgot I had that big washer that goes behind the crank gear. The chamfer/curled edge is to guide the belt to the center. For his issue, I believe the belt is touching and moving towards the oil pump cover as it turns. Hopefully he reads this.
I bump this at it seems possible to be the problem.
I feel like Jimmy's videos need to be longer... I can't get enough of this man's content!
Same same
Same longer videos would be good jimmy knows his stuff
"something spins, you loctite it" alright jimmy. im gonna go out and red loctite my lug nuts
Smart ass 😤🤣
@@JimmyOakes hahaha just had to say it!
oh shit, i did that last the i rotated the air in my tires
damn im gonna go loctite my steering wheel
exactly what i was thinking when he said that
Who else can say they never miss an episode Jimmy puts out? I feel like I watch his episodes more then my OWN!! Haha 😂 Love the content Jimmy you truly motivate the heck out of me!
Been solid watchin every video for 2 years
That washer goes on the opposite side to hold the belt from walking all you did was space it out even more.
Jimmy... READ THIS PLEASE!!
There are 2 washers on rb engines. Flat one and one with a curve on the edge. Flat one behind curved infront.
Damn I miss seeing Brian more in the videos.
Okay so I wasn't the only one missing him too LOL 😂😂😂
@@zacharyguajardo9960 We all miss Brian.
pretty sure he doesn't like the lime light n just wants to be an ordinary cool dude without random dudes telling him that they're soul mates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love B
@@nissanskyline4892 😄👍🏾exactly thats gay
You have no idea how comforting it is to know that other people have tons of dumb issues that pile up for no reason on them when they’re working on a project.
I literally can't wait to hear this properly
U can wait an u will
The hype is real
What, an RB? Man, must be a boring life.
I was away with a friend for the weekend, just got home, eating lunch and watching the 2 vids I missed!! SOOOO Keen to see the RB run!!
Pretty sure you’re missing a washer that goes on the crank to keep the belt aligned. Not savvy with these engines but I’ve built and changed out plenty of Honda engines that utilizes washers on belt driven engines.
OMG! Imagine! That's all he needs! I've been down those rabbit holes with my builds, 3 weeks and tons of cursing just to feel like a total ash from one "GOD DANG MOTHER FRICKEN WASHER" lol. Ahh I hope he see's this comment.
@@BrokePremiere lol, yeah as he was messing around with this. I thought to myself I wish these videos were live so we can help and trouble shoot problems lol. Would of saved a lot of head ache for ole jimmy 😅
I dont think that new kit has room for that on the outside anymore. Perhaps he was supposed to eliminate the washer behind as well? Couldn't tell from the footage if that stayed on for the install, but it looked kinda banged up just before he installed the new kit.
The good ol' HKS cough suggestion 👌🏽
Don't worry Jimmy, I won't ruin the crank on my RB25 that I don't have. 🤙😂
Thank you all for keepin a smile on my face even through getting the rough news in the hospital💚
This man is promoting informative way of vlogging. Very nice. Salute to you JIMMYO!!!
Just walked inside from doing my timing on my rb to watch you do the timing on yours!
Update just watched you say don’t impact you’re crank pully I ugga dugga that fucking thing on😶😂
Look at Jimmy breaking out the torque wrench. Definitely one of the jobs you DON'T want to get wrong
lol right! Cut too, "yeah idk whats wrong, maybe a belt?" lol I hope he gets it figured out.
And thats why jimmy didn't want to mess with RB's 😂😂
Brooooo im glad im not the only one who went through this kinda pain, but man that 33 is sexy as all hell dude congrats.
I recently finished reassembling my ej255 with rebuilt heads and other goodies aswell as a fresh Gates timing kit with a kevlar belt.
Well one of my variable oil controlled cams jumped 1 tooth advanced with no explanation.
Could watch my left and right variable intake cam system fight eachother on the datalogger. Theyd be fine and out of nowhere one cam would be at 20° the other at 40°.
Reset the timing, started it, same shit. Tore it back down, re timed it again! Spun it over by hand several times, everything checked out. Put back together again, same shit.
Ordered a different kit, this one having nothing but OEM bearings, Mitsuboshi belt and even a waterpump to boot.
Tore all the gates crap off, followed the service manual, bled tensioner (hydraulic auto adjusting), re assembled amd rechecked the timing and even had other eyes verify it aswell just to be sure.
Started it, didnt even run a full fan heat cycle let alone get past 180°F before a heavy misfire occurred and i just shut it down cleaned shop and just slept.
Did some research, got a general idea what the problem is, but man dude the anxiety throughout this endeavor has been brutal.
When DJ said "it's runnable bent" it killed me 😂😂
I think it's safe to say b isn't getting his torque wrench back ever 😂
maybe jimbo gave him some cash for it :D
If it hits the valves we'll have a "bad time" He makes jokes without even noticing
Quite the kit! Very proper and straight forward install..
“ cam and crank trigger kit “ why did that sound funny to me lol🤷🏽♂️✌🏽
Jimmy, i think that the belt problem is from you undoing the bolts on the exhaust cam, while the belt was under tension. When you put the bolts back in and tightened them, they weren't torqued the same and that makes that cam gear crooked which is making the belt walk
Every time you put out a video I smile 😀
Hey Jimmy I just started this year working on cars for my university (I’m tryin’ to become an engineer 👨🏼🎓) and I finally realized how hard it can be. Now I truly appreciate you hard work!!! Keep it up you are amazing.
Luv it when you go to Tommy’s Fyeah Spec Factory
Gotta love the rb content. The car is gonna look so awesome
Don't guess anymore ! Get a 4ft straight edge and check all the pullies alignment . I use a 4 ft drywall square. Found many things wrong that way
"RB weakest link" 2j guys be like which one? oiling ? oiling return? trigger ? headgasket? rocker arm? the whole motor?
Exactly what I was thinking and I’m a 3S-GTE guy. You forgot the weak nose on the crank though 😉
Twin Cam RBs dont have rocker arms. Oil pump engagement drive and oil return are really the only big issues and can be fixed cheap.
@@jarradwalsh6829 yeah they have stupid shim buckets instead, wait till he start popping those lol
Favorite way to spend my lunches 🤙🏻
I love waking up on Saturday to Jimmy ♥️
Friday night for Patreons
Keep pushing always great content.
Keep your head up champ your the best at what you do
I like the attention to detail but when you make videos please make them more specific but you really do a good job
I see you had S14 Kouki tail lights on the shelve, mods already rolling in.
you would be an awesome teacher uno
I like that kit. Looks way cleaner then a wire sticking out of the crank. Also I think it makes it look more built. You figure it would have the covered wire look originally so it looks cleaner
The wave washer is pretty important to replace when doing the tensioners and idlers pulley swap
Aye jimmy, I just sat through 2 one minute ads and didn’t skip. Now let’s see that E36 get some action
It does need some love
did you try flipping the belt to see if it walks the other way. just to be shore its the belt
I was thinking that aswell
timing marks wouldnt line up. not a mirror image.
@@kendallwilliams9808 timing marks on the belt are irrelevant as land as the cams and crank march with their mark on the engine
The saga of the rb issues begins
Bro this was my whole week
Jimmy the crank that washer on the inside should be on the outside to keep the belt from walking and you have it on the inside of the crank sprocket put it on the outside
Can’t help but stare at the VS6 on the purple 240 in the background 👀
Is it only me when he says “wee little bit “it kills me inside haha love the video bud keep it up
Jimmy's law 1, the time you estimated to finish your project, multiply it by pi (3.142)
Jimmy's law 2, whatever that moves, torque them to spec. Yes it's weird but it helps in the long run
Jimmy's Law 3, to be determined.....
A new Jimmy Oakes video on my 21st birthday helllll yeahhh
Happy birthday dude
Yo, happy birthday. I'll have a beer for ya
@@iNefarious thanks dude!
@@datdom3450 shit then since its my 21st to you I raise my glass
Enjoy mate. I might well be a couple ahead you ya now LOL
I'd highly recommend using an arp bolt for the tensioner as the oem one's are known for snapping and bending valve's
There’s a guard that’s supposed to cover the crank gear n the belt like the 2jz it helps the belt from walking or touching the plastic guards
I had walking on my rb25 s2, it was because there was a plate behind the crank gear that holds the belt from coming forward, and a there is supposed to be a plate infront of the gear it's a plate for the crank gear to hold the belt from coming off !!!FRONT PLATE! FOR CRANK GEAR! IS WHAT YOUR MISSING, THERE IS A BACK PLATE AND FRONT PLATE TO HOLD THE BELT FROM WALKING OFF
That shii look so good fye asfffff
your idler pulleys have built in spacers to keep pulley under the belt, this spacer has a flat edge that meets the block. THAT is what determins if your idler pulley is sitting square to the block or if it sits crooked causing a belt to walk.. place idler pulley on level surface, then use a level on face of pulley to see if face of pulley is level with your mating surface. this will tell you if your pulley spacer is causing idler pulley to sit crooked. the bolt itself dosent have to be perfectly straight, again as the pulley spacer itself is what keeps the pulley square to the block.. check your idler pulley spacers are squared.
I had the same problem with the belt walking. Belt tensioner was somehow crooked and caused the walking.
You should have gone with the purple hks belt 😂
Thanks for the video
I feel you pain. The entire day I was under my Mk1 golf. The engin mount broke apart. Sucks. And tried changing the coil pack again but still nothing then found I had no fuel pressure so I changed the the fuel pump. And now it's dark..... I need a garage
Not bad kid! 👍 getting there, I also agree that's a very beautiful Cam kit thinking about picking one up myself 💯... Side note I was just about to ask where our boy Bri bri was, wondering if I was the only one missing him. Knowing he's probably busy with work at his shop.... When's the s13 going to be finished??!
That’s how my timing belt sounds lol. Shop said it’ll stretch out after a while and go away
Jimmy's face has my crying 😭
Check the end of the crank and make sure it’s not bent or distorted.
Missing the conical washer in the tensioner is why the belt is walking..
So much RB Stuff to listen about...Thought I was watching Officer Tommy's Channel....lol
Brian “ just put it together and rev it ti 9000” 😂😂😂😂
Jimmy you gotta come see me at Lebanon Ford Performance! Get you a 2021 F-150! We do supercharged truck builds as well and can do as much or as little as you’d like!
Nissan tensioner studs are typically a consumable item when doing the timing belt service otherwise they tend to snap. You need more friends used to VGs when working on non-SR Nissan motors lol
Hey jimmy, i had the same problem with my rb25. It was because i forgot to put one of the whasers on the bottom crank gear. It looks like you cant use the front one because of your new trigger gear.
Make sure you do the crank bolt up super tight so you pull everything on otherwise there will be misalignment.
For when you put your balancer back on, make sure you have it in 5th gear when tightening it with someone having their foot on the brake and also make sure you use the rb25 torque specs, not the 26 spec!
Hell yeah brother
Check the crank part is all the way on. I had this problem before
Wait like the pulley?
@@BrokePremiere the part the belt is on. The cog on the crank..
Oooo the season finale
Belt guide washer silly goose!
The first time I’ve actually seen Jimmy flustered over a car. He normally comes across so laid back.
looking good, build a left hand drive! haha
Call Tommy and see if Josh has ever seen this issue
Wonder if it was them zip ties you had around the belt when installing the crank trigger kit caused the belt issue
I was doing a timing belt on my 01 tundra with the 2uz v8 and so I had the cams aligned but just by me working around in the engine bay the driver side cam was a tiny bit off so I went to move it back with a Rachet and all of a sudden the cam turned 90° to the left while I was turning it back to the right to tdc. Fuckin scared me so bad cause I'd didnt know what happened and I thought I fucked my valves up. The valve springs probably put off so much pressure that it over came the gears in the rachet and turned or something. Anyway I careful set it back to tdc after and went to change out my underwear while I watched your vids lol. Truck runs fine now so thank God I didn't fuck em up
9:18 jugged & finessed
Hit up Kevin Lawrence! He knows these motors pretty well, helped Adam build his, might be able to help you figure out what’s wrong!
Raw brokerage too
Perfect video to break up a painting session
You're missing the washer that goes on the crank pully thst helps keep the belt aligned.
My vw 1.8t is the same way and it's fine no problems
Tommy and his Chinese belts... 🤦♂️
like the coil saga lol
That thing will dildo his engine
@@samthesr20man 😂😂😂
Welcome to the RB life of misfiring and timing belt whine!
Loctite wheel nuts 🧐
Hp logic could get you a HKS timing belt fast I bet hit jack up!
Shipping from Florida to CT would take days if not weeks lol, Tommy is like the next city over
@@X1XBlackbirdX1X Tommy’s not a hks dealer he gets old hks stuff
Check his IG story, he already got one from Tommy
@@tiborpandza8530 an oem one not hks
@@BlutundEhre1942 Why does he need an HKS one? He never said he wanted an HKS one and when DJ brought it up he just laughed, my point was that he could get an OEM one same day rather than wait for something he doesn’t need lol
We need a “boom” montage for this build
Like.comment.watch
Click that bell people!
timing belts handle ass loads of torque as that is what links you pistons to your valves.. be very very very hard to stretch or deform just from tightening underdrive pulley,
Did u try flipping the belt ?
Early bird! Yo from uk 👋
Jimmy loctites his lug nuts cause wheels spin!! 😂
Should’ve left the 20e in it they’re reliable af and bullet proof
I think it's "every dog has its day" Donnie.....
“It’s runnable bent”😂😂😂
Should try flopping the belt and see if it walks inwards
The belt was to tight, with the noise it was making. But I doubt its damaged, I'd say the replacement won't change much.
Lets get an update vid on the MK2!
I’ve had a belt walk off before on a vehicle I can’t remember what make /model where the belt was directional